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Who here can tell me who the sons of God were that are spoken of in Genesis chapter 6?

No, they were not fallen angels.
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An example of the Hebrew mythology cut-and-paste from earlier sources. The people were already familiar with the oral traditions of the river valley civilizations. So the Aaronic priesthood had to use something known and accepted, then glom their own stuff onto it in order to set themselves up with lifetime positions at the top of the heap.
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They were fallen mankind that hooked up with fallen religions(daughters of men) which caused the mess that God was about to destroy with the flood.
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Almost 63330,

Gen 4:25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.
Gen 4:26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.

That is the last two verses of Genesis chapter 4.

Chapter is all geneology of Cain.

Cain's family was where the daughters of men came from.

Seth is from where the sons of God came from.

Seth knew his family was not to intermix with the daughters of Cain, but yet still they did.

Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

The Hebrew word for renown is Shem. see this:
H8034
שׁם
shêm
shame
A primitive word (perhaps rather from H7760 through the idea of definite and conspicuous position; compare H8064); an appellation, as a mark or memorial of individuality; by implication honor, authority, character: - + base, [in-] fame [-ous], name (-d), renown, report.
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Isn't it curious; it's metaphoric when literal won't stand up and it's literal when metaphoric crashes and burns. A thumper win-win all around, and without cracking an independent thought. Amazing!
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We are the sons of God. Fallen or not fallen.Depends whether you are connected to truth(God) or not.
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Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

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15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

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16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

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17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

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18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

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19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
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01/26/2006 09:41 AM
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I knew a man once and I had a baby.

Go figure damned
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Why did this thread die?
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Another 11:11 moment in time
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People basically know now that the world is a huge fraud and when it comes to religion all we have to do is love one another and truth.People will find out the spiritual Feasts of the Lord show you just that.All will know the Feasts of the Lord spiritually. Just means all will know the truth about God's ways which is to just love one another and truth and avoid worldly religions of man. It basically just comes down to keeping your mind pure and having common sense.

Compare this to the leadership Bush is showing.Will his leadership help this world?
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There is the celestial 'seat of God' whom you may think of as a 'sun God'. It is the source of stellar light that emanates from the prism of Lyra into this Universe. The light that was emitted through this prism nearly 12 billion years ago has a beginning. There are at least 12 Universes. Each one headed by a binary pair (Sons of God).

That intial binary pair branches out into the Universe following a base 2 distribution, not unlike the branching of the circulatory system from the heart. By the time you get to the newest creations, the intial binary pair (especially over 12 billion years) is quite diluted.

Does that help at all? It's many layered and there is much much more to it.
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What the world is going through is a stage in time where the masses are finding out their world is a complete fraud. Tribulation. As they approach truth(God) they will find that as for religion all we have to do is love one another and truth. As the religions of man fade away, war and mental illness and societal sickness will fade away.

Think of this as a stage of the healing of mankind from a huge spiritually fallen sickness.
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Is that why people are talking about seeing 2 Suns perhaps?
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I suppose I should mention that the source of light for all universes is emitted from a central source. It is this splitting from source, or separating from source that we are talking about with the Sons of God.

To begin with there are 24 'elders' about the celestial throne. Many would interpret that to mean all male or androdynous energy. This is not the case. These are twin energy pairs. Their offspring are androgynous. Our particular binary pair had 12 androgynous offspring.
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24 elders

The 12 Tribes of Israel and the 12 Apostles of the Lamb.God/Jesus

That is why all are headed to the Feasts of the Lord and the center. The Feasts of the Lord bring the 12 Apostles and 12 Tribes together as Judean Christians of New Jerusalem and the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth.

Center verse of the Bible

Psalm 118:

8 It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man.
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People are being restored to the source.Even amongst all the distraction posts people are still being drawn to the source.
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[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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'Restored to the source'. Like it. Makes me think of drinking from the fountains of living waters. But the wayshower is the only way to the restoration source. Follow Him means many things. As does any part of this story have many layers and meanings. From the most esoteric to the phycial the same pattern is repeated...
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The source is Truth. There is much truth about many things. Truth about how to garden well, fish well, eat well, build a house well, etc etc. There is also truth about religion of truth. The truth is that all we have to do is love one another and truth and we will do well.

Rom 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
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Do not confuse one of the pillars of the celestial throne with the source.
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The energy of the initial binary pair represents the LOGOS for their respective universe. For this universe, it is Free Will.
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so what does it mean that we are all sons of god? what does that do for me in my everyday life? how can i use that for the betterment of all mankind? there should be some use for that information if it is truth?
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Ok REM, read this:

Job

6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them. 7 The LORD said to Satan, "From where have you come?" Satan answered the LORD and said, "From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking up and down on it."

He asked Satan where have you come from. Satan says earth. So Satan and these sons of God are clearly not on earth. They are in the presence of the Lord.

HOW did these humans travel to Heaven? HOW? Please tell me.
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so what does love one another mean to you/ that is such a broad statement. do you let the person abuse you , do you let them kill you , do you allow all things and just say oh well i love you so that is okay. where do you draw the line. i am asking for a specific reason. i have had to draw the line and cut my brother out of my life. i still think i love him , but do i really if i can cut him out. hard to say . truthfully i do not miss his harsh ways and his lies however society has taught me that i should just love him and be okay with whatever he does. i say NO. If you dont like what someone does, do you just stay around and let them do it over and over. again i say NO. are we supposed to just love all those that bomb us and kill our children. how is this possible. i dont love that, do you
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"so what does it mean that we are all sons of god? what does that do for me in my everyday life? how can i use that for the betterment of all mankind? there should be some use for that information if it is truth?"


Well if you are not a fallen son of God then you are connected to the source and you know truth.Then you spread truth to help create peace on Earth.

If you are a fallen son of God then you are caught up in a fallen religion and you can't really help terminate the source of our problems because you are actually part of it.
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"so what does love one another mean to you/ that is such a broad statement. do you let the person abuse you , do you let them kill you , do you allow all things and just say oh well i love you so that is okay. where do you draw the line. i am asking for a specific reason. i have had to draw the line and cut my brother out of my life. i still think i love him , but do i really if i can cut him out. hard to say . truthfully i do not miss his harsh ways and his lies however society has taught me that i should just love him and be okay with whatever he does. i say NO. If you dont like what someone does, do you just stay around and let them do it over and over. again i say NO. are we supposed to just love all those that bomb us and kill our children. how is this possible. i dont love that, do you"






You should try to help him.Think of it as trying to teach a little child not to hit you with a baseball bat.

That is the problem God has. God can't force people to treat each other nice. They have to want to do it on their own free will. The source of the confusion that causes people to fight is manmade religion.
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HOW did these humans travel to Heaven? HOW? Please tell me.

Yes you have asked the million dollar question. But it is the end of the story and also somewhere after the beginning. You see, being a yin yang universe, if you will, one of the truths that get happy and content energy to grow is that they must be nudged out of their comfort zone. And in a yin yang universe the way that this is done is through adversarial pursuit. The adversary in Hebrew is called Satan.

The adversarial pursuit resulted in the first timeshift into a different time/space configuration for the pursued a very long time ago in the constellation of Lyra. These were beings who attained creator status themselves (a little later in their journey) and were pushed out, initially.

But this is advantages for life and growth for life in accord with the design. We are still talking about binary, yin/yang here...

The tribes of the intial binary pair assembled into two lineages, one who retained their memories of their Divine Heritage and ability to defend themselves, and the other who did not.

This is where the interesting part really begins.
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01/26/2006 12:50 PM
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Elohim Adonai Come. Come with light, come with truth, come with love. Cast out darkness from this world. Cast out evil from the hearts of men. Come Elohim Adonai.


Purification and Transformation is in process. Use this mantra alone, gather and
pray it together.
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01/26/2006 12:55 PM
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"HOW did these humans travel to Heaven? HOW? Please tell me."


What if Heaven is the spiritual realm of mankind's collective consciousness?
When you physically die the memory of you travels to the spiritual realm of mankind's collective consciousness(Heaven).
Heh
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Ok people. It just seems obvious to me that the sons of God are not human sons of Seth. They are not on earth. They presented themselves. That sounds physical to me. Just my two cents. Those that do not agree with me and visa versa, it is ok. We can agree to disagree.

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