Considering leaving America?

I reckon they are just more old fashioned :)

You would think most countries would be glad to let retired Americans with assets to move to their country.

The best place in my book is the south island, yeah it has earthquakes but the north has volcanoes...so....take your pick! heheh!

Nah really, it isn't great knowing you can have a big shake but we are pretty well prepared here. All houses have to be built according to strict building codes.


And if you have any religious knowledge at all, there is a story in the bible about a king who did wrong...and God gave him a choice...to suffer divine wrath or to suffer from the hands of men.

The king chose to suffer Gods divine wrath because he had more mercy than man.


Now, irrespective of whether you are religious or not the morale of the story is there - I prefer taking a risk with earthquakes over the risks of my fellow man.

Give me natures wrath any day over mans, we can survive earthquakes, we can rebuild. We cannot survive a fascist government, we cannot survive communism.

In my opinion anyway :)


Peace to you all

OP

This guy is a jerk. What you have said is inspiring and special, it comes from a place of concern and empathy.

We appreciate you.

That is so gratefully received, thank you! You can't imagine the level of desolation that 49% of voting Americans are feeling right now...your kindness is a healing balm.

Did you see Bob Beckel before the votes were in?

He said if Obama lost he would be moving here, Greg said he'd by him the ticket. LMAO.

But ... I don't want anymore Americans here, especially republicans, so visa denied.

how far will american dollars go in your country? will we get beaten up in the exchange rate?

And you are exactly the sort of American that needs to STAY IN AMERIKA and lick the hand that feeds you. The OP wasn't talking to you. In fact, you are specifically excluded from this post. Go celebrate your master's victory and keep your vile filth out of threads that don't concern you.

Birds of a feather, water seeking its own level.
As I said...

No you do really well.

You're so damned dumb.
I already have a place, not the U.S., picked out.
Just got back.
You're the dumb m.f. trapped in the U.S., licking the hand of YOUR master by being there and playing that nasty game.

You dream. And your dreams are very small.
Like the heart of the O.P.

YOU have to live your reality.
And, being you, it necessarily is a lousy one.

Anybody who does not understand that New Zealand is going the way of the U.S. and Australia, being lined up that-a-way for a hell of a long time... is living in some kind of delusional la-la-land.

Originally New Zealand was inhabited by Maori, who arrived at around 1300-1400 AD.

They got here a few hundred years before us, yep.
I do love getting insulted, yup! but I gotta ask, where did I trash Chinese? I don't agree with mass immigration that is all.
I have some friends who are Chinese actually...very nice people - they even make an effort to become a New Zealander which I appreciate very much. Being in New Zealand has nothing to do with race, it has everything to do with attitude.

As I mentioned earlier a European will fit in easier because the country is full of Europeans! does it mean black, red, green or purple man would not 'fit'?
Not at all, we are all humans afterall.

BUT different people tend to have a harder time considering themselves the same as people who look different - humans are very visual creatures.


Look you can call me names and what not, I think that is a shame but you are free to your view.

If you understood me as racist you are dearly mistaken friend, indeed, how could I be with New Zealand having a native (really native!) people who allowed me to live in their country?

You know what is real funny?

These same native people (the Maori) are actually tired of unfettered immigration by Chinese.
Yes, just Chinese.

I am sure they were upset when Europeans landed but at least we gave them full citizenship and their own land.
Go read up on New Zealand history if you want, it is always good to read.

I'm no fraud mate, maybe I am not the same as you in my thinking, but it doesn't mean I'm a fraud.

Peace to ya mate.

Shut the fuck up. Obama won, so go suck his dick or something hip.

Heheheh, so which school you currently in? Another one of the young kiwis I talked about earlier folks.


Tell you what mate, I prefer the Americans to the Chinese. At least the Americans will integrate and be good, upright people.

Not that the Chinese cannot be....just the trend is that they don't.

Just saying...

It's like this, kiddies... and some old farts are still kiddies intellectually...

One World Government a coming.

The so-called West has been the bastion... the nurturing ground... for this.

So... so-called, "Western," countries are picked off FIRST.

There are other places much lower on the hit list.
Eventually they will be gotten to.

Hence it becomes a matter of picking a place much further down that list.
And then if you live long enough to enjoy that place before it too is gotten to.

I absolutely agree.

With a few minor differences, there is still time to change things in these countries (Aus/NZ)

And the governments in these countries would find it very hard to control the population as they are still relatively small.
Well...I am not so certain of Australia but the NZ government couldn't protect it's own front yard.

Let alone infringe on the liberties of its citizens.

You're obviously still trapped in a left-right prison.
A liberal-conservative rat trap.
You have received what you deserve for being so damned dumb.. and.... EVIL.

Actually yeah. That is pretty close to it to be honest, it seems people have just given up fighting for liberty.

God you are so fuckin stupid, go vote for Obama a few more times.

Hey, hey, hey folks. Relax.

We ain't gonna help anything being at each others throats, ey?

Look you guys, all I wanted to say to start with is that if you want to move, move here!

We will all benefit from your creativity and passion for liberty!
And if any of you do move here I wish you the best and know you are not alone!


Peace to you all

Alright folks, I gotta go now.

Peace to you all, good luck with all your endeavours!

The place I've picked has very few of European/Caucasian descent.
Those there look past one another in a cogent attempt to not make contact/have communication with.
That's because they do not want to see others coming... to fuck the place up.
It's a, "this is our little secret," thing.

We are losing the population fight. We just dont have the numbers anymore.

I am pretty sure at this stage of the game in the states it could not be considered fighting, but suicide.

Our prisons are filled to the brims with many liberty minded people, even political prisoners. Our streets are filled with people who have badges and guns and know nothing of what liberty stands for.

The laws books would fill a small high rise building, the lawyers and corrupt politiicians occupy the seats of power.

The USA is a huge country, there are many pockets of liberty left, but they are all falling one by one, I dont see much chance to put up any unified front anymore. We are to scatterd and most folks only do what the TV tells them.

Trust me, If a saw hope, If I saw any chance , I would stay and keep up the good fight. It is so sad to see what we are becoming and feeling powerless to stop it.

We are so divided, so many factions. Just nothing left but to fight each other. But we cant make real change or face off against the goverment.

yeah enjoy being eaten by all kinds of bugs most of the year that want to suck your blood for fun under the skin-ripping sun.

Cheers

You seem to be a very dark and evil person. You really should just stay in America. It's definitely become exactly the sort of place that will suit you.

Sounds like you are stuck in the "group trap". There is a book called "how i found freedom in an unfree world" give it a read, it might shine light on some self rescue.

I'm an old man.
I have been fighting the encroaching darkness in the U.S. for decades.
It was always a sham.
Liberty for some but not for others... history (true history) excursions will bear this out...

The European/Caucasian contingency finally got around to devouring huge portions of itself... not that there wasn't some feasting going on before... but the magnitude shifted into overdrive.

The liberty and freedom bit was always for only a relatively select group.
And now much fewer.
Those much further down the ladder who played by the rules written for them now find themselves much fucked... with worse to come.

I have seen some fruit from my work.
BUT.... not enough to turn the tide.
Just enough to liberate some individual souls.

It is time to leave.
And, I already have, essentially.

Interesting figure of speech. Especially while "we" just "re-elected" a murderer and thug to the White House.