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"According to the Lithuanian Ambassador in Minsk, Linas Linkevicius, the improvised incendiary weapons were thrown yesterday’s evening. In his own words to BNS, "two Molotov cocktails were cast into the territory yesterday evening. They caught fire, our police officers put them out. It was a coincidence that we avoided damage, the consequences could have been much worse," commented Ambassador Linkevicius."

It did happen a day before 7th of November, Great October Socialist Revolution day in Belarus that is still celebrated there.

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"How it can be understood differently, than terrorism?", Lithuanian foreign affairs minister A.Azubalis.

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twoj problem Litwinie polega na tym ze obwiniasz Polakow za upadek Wielkiego Ksiestwa Litewskiego, nie rozumiejac zupelnie ze byliscie tak silni ze gdyby nie Polacy Krzyzacy zniszczyliby was. Polskie wojska mogly walczyc z krzyzackimi jak rowny z rownym. Nie mozna tego powiedziec o armiach litewskich. Byliscie jedynie zdolni do prowadzenia wojny partyzanckiej. Zwyczajnie nie zapanowaliscie nad Rusinami i nie byliscie zdolni do samodzielnej walki z Rosja. Gdyby nie Polacy Litwa podzielilaby los Zlotej Ordy. Zyskaliscie dzieki:
1. Walkom wewnatrz imperium Mongolow.
2. Oslabieniu i pustce na Rusi.
3. Rozbiciu dzielnicowemu Polski i zwiazaniu walkami z Niemcami.

Bylo Was za malo, byliscie za slabo zorganizowani i zbyt mocno zacofani.
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twoj problem Litwinie polega na tym ze obwiniasz Polakow za upadek Wielkiego Ksiestwa Litewskiego, nie rozumiejac zupelnie ze byliscie tak silni ze gdyby nie Polacy Krzyzacy zniszczyliby was. Polskie wojska mogly walczyc z krzyzackimi jak rowny z rownym. Nie mozna tego powiedziec o armiach litewskich. Byliscie jedynie zdolni do prowadzenia wojny partyzanckiej. Zwyczajnie nie zapanowaliscie nad Rusinami i nie byliscie zdolni do samodzielnej walki z Rosja. Gdyby nie Polacy Litwa podzielilaby los Zlotej Ordy. Zyskaliscie dzieki:
1. Walkom wewnatrz imperium Mongolow.
2. Oslabieniu i pustce na Rusi.
3. Rozbiciu dzielnicowemu Polski i zwiazaniu walkami z Niemcami.

Bylo Was za malo, byliscie za slabo zorganizowani i zbyt mocno zacofani.
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stfufightcupofjoe
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kim jong

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twoj problem Litwinie polega na tym ze obwiniasz Polakow za upadek Wielkiego Ksiestwa Litewskiego, nie rozumiejac zupelnie ze byliscie tak silni ze gdyby nie Polacy Krzyzacy zniszczyliby was. Polskie wojska mogly walczyc z krzyzackimi jak rowny z rownym. Nie mozna tego powiedziec o armiach litewskich. Byliscie jedynie zdolni do prowadzenia wojny partyzanckiej. Zwyczajnie nie zapanowaliscie nad Rusinami i nie byliscie zdolni do samodzielnej walki z Rosja. Gdyby nie Polacy Litwa podzielilaby los Zlotej Ordy. Zyskaliscie dzieki:
1. Walkom wewnatrz imperium Mongolow.
2. Oslabieniu i pustce na Rusi.
3. Rozbiciu dzielnicowemu Polski i zwiazaniu walkami z Niemcami.

Bylo Was za malo, byliscie za slabo zorganizowani i zbyt mocno zacofani.
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stfufightcupofjoe
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Speak Irish?
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twoj problem Litwinie polega na tym ze obwiniasz Polakow za upadek Wielkiego Ksiestwa Litewskiego, nie rozumiejac zupelnie ze byliscie tak silni ze gdyby nie Polacy Krzyzacy zniszczyliby was. Polskie wojska mogly walczyc z krzyzackimi jak rowny z rownym. Nie mozna tego powiedziec o armiach litewskich. Byliscie jedynie zdolni do prowadzenia wojny partyzanckiej. Zwyczajnie nie zapanowaliscie nad Rusinami i nie byliscie zdolni do samodzielnej walki z Rosja. Gdyby nie Polacy Litwa podzielilaby los Zlotej Ordy. Zyskaliscie dzieki:
1. Walkom wewnatrz imperium Mongolow.
2. Oslabieniu i pustce na Rusi.
3. Rozbiciu dzielnicowemu Polski i zwiazaniu walkami z Niemcami.

Bylo Was za malo, byliscie za slabo zorganizowani i zbyt mocno zacofani.
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stfufightcupofjoe
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nie wcinaj sie kutasie jak nie wiesz o co chodzi. Nie zalezy mi na paradzie slow w jakims 3 ligowym watku ktory szybko spadl. Chce dotrzec do kolesia zeby nie wygadywal bzdur w innych watkach. Nie chce go niszczyc tylko chce zeby zaczal myslec. Nie mam innej metody komunikacji.
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It's sad that some live in the history of illusions. First of all Poland was formed as a crusader country against Baltic people. Pope gave them rights to Baltic lands for their fight. Baltic people started calling Christians "armies of greedy slaves" as main problem was feudalic relationships at the time vs private property based society, tyranny vs federation (1219 peace treaty with Galicia-Volhynia easily indicates it, as there were 20 signatory representatives from federation side). There weren't much excitement about "ownership" treaties too. Poland soon met resistance from Prussians and Yotvingians. It got Poland close to the devastation. To save itself Poland was forced to ask for help from Pope and Germans. For possibility to be saved any rights to unconquered Baltic lands were given up and Poland did not recover until Lithuanians pushed Mongolian empire far to the East. Northern Crusade from that time had only new Teutonic-Knight and Brothers of Sword Orders. This was the longest war in the history of the world that lasted nearly fourth of millennia.


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After 1242 Mongolian invasion Poland was a tributary country. Lithuanians and Masovians built Krakow (Polish capital) castle, so that they would be able to resist against new threat. Needles to say, Pope personally was threatened by it too.

That is right, that Polish could have fought alongside Crusaders. Unfortunately that would have made them fighting for other country without any rights to conquered lands when at the same time they were vulnerable for Mongol attacks. Also it is highly likely that Poland would have been another target after victory.
Lithuania became Christian only after defeat of Northern Crusade.

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On the topic

This incident in MSM now is treated as provocation that is aimed for destabilizing relationships between Lithuania and Belarus. Relationships showed signs of worsening after Belarus started nuclear plant construction near the border on the river supplying water to half of Lithuanians and most of all after "Teddy Bear" action.
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It's sad that some live in the history of illusions. First of all Poland was formed as a crusader country against Baltic people. Pope gave them rights to Baltic lands for their fight. Baltic people started calling Christians "armies of greedy slaves" as main problem was feudalic relationships at the time vs private property based society, tyranny vs federation (1219 peace treaty with Galicia-Volhynia easily indicates it, as there were 20 signatory representatives from federation side). There weren't much excitement about "ownership" treaties too. Poland soon met resistance from Prussians and Yotvingians. It got Poland close to the devastation. To save itself Poland was forced to ask for help from Pope and Germans. For possibility to be saved any rights to unconquered Baltic lands were given up and Poland did not recover until Lithuanians pushed Mongolian empire far to the East. Northern Crusade from that time had only new Teutonic-Knight and Brothers of Sword Orders. This was the longest war in the history of the world that lasted nearly fourth of millennia.


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

After 1242 Mongolian invasion Poland was a tributary country. Lithuanians and Masovians built Krakow (Polish capital) castle, so that they would be able to resist against new threat. Needles to say, Pope personally was threatened by it too.

That is right, that Polish could have fought alongside Crusaders. Unfortunately that would have made them fighting for other country without any rights to conquered lands when at the same time they were vulnerable for Mongol attacks. Also it is highly likely that Poland would have been another target after victory.
Lithuania became Christian only after defeat of Northern Crusade.
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This what you've written here is a simple babble, KGB (now FSS) version of Polish history for Lithuanian imbeciles. Poland is much older than Teutonic knights who were always enemy of my country. There is a huge probability that you're performing false flag operation, playing Lithuanian patriot.

btw. Cracow is older than Lithuanian nationality and far from it.
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This what you've written here is a simple babble, KGB (now FSS) version of Polish history for Lithuanian imbeciles. Poland is much older than Teutonic knights who were always enemy of my country. There is a huge probability that you're performing false flag operation, playing Lithuanian patriot.

btw. Cracow is older than Lithuanian nationality and far from it.
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Our nationality is much older than your historians writing distorted stories could think.

Krakow was ruled by Bohemian duke, and ruler Mieszko did split it by marrying Czech princess Dobrava, forming new country, Poland. It is interesting how your imperialistic history cannot explain existence of Arian Christians.

Needless to say anything about invitation of Teutons in 1226 to your country for protection by Konrad Mazowiecki. Golden Bull of Rimini by Emperor Frederick II
"brother Konrad had offered and promised to furnish brother Herrmann, Honorable Master of the Holy Hospital of St. Mary of the Germans in Jerusalem (Teutonic Order).. with the Culmensis Land between his march and the Prussians and equip them (T.O.) well, so they may take Preussenland (Terra Prussiae) in possession... we recognize the fact, that this land is included in the realm of the empire, we trust the judgement of the Master... we recognize all land in Prussia as an ancient right of the empire ...".
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This what you've written here is a simple babble, KGB (now FSS) version of Polish history for Lithuanian imbeciles. Poland is much older than Teutonic knights who were always enemy of my country. There is a huge probability that you're performing false flag operation, playing Lithuanian patriot.

btw. Cracow is older than Lithuanian nationality and far from it.
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Our nationality is much older than your historians writing


"Your historians"? I am right according to international history.



Krakow was ruled by Bohemian duke, and ruler Mieszko did split it by marrying Czech princess Dobrava, forming new country, Poland.

Far before your nationality, You started reading and writing in your own language in XIX , about 600 years after Poles.


It is interesting how your imperialistic history



Needless to say anything about invitation of Teutons in 1226


Teutons invited themselves to Poland. Holy Roman Empire were one of the neighbors of my country.
Haven't you ever hard something like "an offer I couldn't refuse"? Konrad Mazowiecki was offered such a proposition.


Polish queen Jadwiga entered into humiliating marriage with your king to stop pseudo - christianization of Lithuanians who would have been exterminated by Germans like old Prussians.
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This what you've written here is a simple babble, KGB (now FSS) version of Polish history for Lithuanian imbeciles. Poland is much older than Teutonic knights who were always enemy of my country. There is a huge probability that you're performing false flag operation, playing Lithuanian patriot.

btw. Cracow is older than Lithuanian nationality and far from it.
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Our nationality is much older than your historians writing distorted stories could think.

Krakow was ruled by Bohemian duke, and ruler Mieszko did split it by marrying Czech princess Dobrava, forming new country, Poland. It is interesting how your imperialistic history cannot explain existence of Arian Christians.

Needless to say anything about invitation of Teutons in 1226 to your country for protection by Konrad Mazowiecki. Golden Bull of Rimini by Emperor Frederick II
"brother Konrad had offered and promised to furnish brother Herrmann, Honorable Master of the Holy Hospital of St. Mary of the Germans in Jerusalem (Teutonic Order).. with the Culmensis Land between his march and the Prussians and equip them (T.O.) well, so they may take Preussenland (Terra Prussiae) in possession... we recognize the fact, that this land is included in the realm of the empire, we trust the judgement of the Master... we recognize all land in Prussia as an ancient right of the empire ...".
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btw. [link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Our nationality is much older than your historians writing


"Your historians"? I am right according to international history.



Krakow was ruled by Bohemian duke, and ruler Mieszko did split it by marrying Czech princess Dobrava, forming new country, Poland.

Far before your nationality, You started reading and writing in your own language in XIX , about 600 years after Poles.


It is interesting how your imperialistic history



Needless to say anything about invitation of Teutons in 1226


Teutons invited themselves to Poland. Holy Roman Empire were one of the neighbors of my country.
Haven't you ever hard something like "an offer I couldn't refuse"? Konrad Mazowiecki was offered such a proposition.


Polish queen Jadwiga entered into humiliating marriage with your king to stop pseudo - christianization of Lithuanians who would have been exterminated by Germans like old Prussians.
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I'm talking about Polish history which differs from standards of objectivity a lot.

Didn't you hear about runes? The first alphabet predating your country by at least 3000 years. That's a bit about them.
[link to www.baltai.lt]
[link to www.ausra.pl]

Only literacy using Latin letters became widespread in 1400s.
XIX age banned Lithuanian language. All written books were burned down that were found. How country can become suddenly literate with such enforced policy?
This just shows how your history is intentionally distorted with lies.
Do you know at least a date for earliest Polish book?

On the other hand your country was absolute monarchy with illiterate population. Lithuania didn't have such dark period. Lithuanian Constitution (your history calls it statute for some reason?) of 1529 writes down human rights, which was impossible to comprehend in medieval Poland. Wasn't that the reason for Ukrainian revolt too?

Even if you were forced to accept treaty, it was the result of Prussian and Yotvingian (both in the same federation) counterattack.

Jadwiga refused marriage to Austrian prince (from Hapsburg house) and unification with them for Lithuanian king. It is interesting to hear reason for that. chuckle
Let's not forget that this marriage alone started 2 wars between Lithuania and Poland. You lost both of them even with the full support of Mongolian Khan Tamerlane. This isn't in your history books too?

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Most nations have martyrs that started Christianity. Saint Bruno of Querfurt 1009 was one of them too. Didn't you hear about Millenarian movement at that time?

There are others like
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"...I'm talking about Polish history which differs from standards of objectivity a lot...."
Odnosilem sie do swiatowej historii, sam reprezentujesz skrajnie nie obiektywna szkole historyczna.

"...Didn't you hear about runes? ..."
Skandynawowie - nie myl ich z Litwinami.


"...XIX age banned Lithuanian language. ..."
Dobrze bys pamietal ze byliscie wtedy tak jak i Polacy , pod okupacja rosyjska.


"...Do you know at least a date for earliest Polish book?..."

nie pamietam , sprawdz w google. Polacy pisali po lacinie,istnieja ksiegi z dopiskami po polsku z XIII w.

"...On the other hand your country was absolute monarchy..."

Mylisz Polske z carska Rosja.

"...with illiterate population...."
Ekstremalna hipokryzja, mozesz podac date powstania pierwszego litewskiego uniwersytetu?

"...Lithuania didn't have such dark period..."
Jestes chory, Twoj kraj cechowal sie sporym wskaznikiem analfabrtyzmu jeszcze jako republika ZSRR.

"...Lithuanian Constitution..."
Pierwsza byla kontytucja USA, potem [link to pl.wikipedia.org]

"...Wasn't that the reason for Ukrainian revolt too?..."
Powstanie ludobojcy Chmielnickiego wiazalo sie z ukryta wojna religijna wypowiedziana Polsce przez cerkiew. Wielu Rusinom bardziej odpowiadalo bycie katolikami niz prawoslawnymi i stad te 'powstania'.

"...Even if you were forced to accept treaty, it was the result of Prussian and Yotvingian (both in the same federation) counterattack...."

Prusowie nie mieli szans na pokonanie Polakow. Owe plemie z trudem radzilo sobie z kontratakami jednego z ksiestw rozbitej dzielnicowo Polski. Najlepszym dowodem slabosci Prusów jest eksterminacja tego plemienia przez Niemcow, ktorym Polacy sie oparli.


"....Jadwiga refused marriage to Austrian prince ..."

Teraz to dales przyklad ignorancji, slub z Litwinem mial chronic Polske przed Zakonem Krzyzackim, ktory po podbiciu Litwy uderzylby na moj kraj.


"...Let's not forget that this marriage alone started 2 wars between Lithuania and Poland. ..."

Jest to tak samo pewne jak konstytucja z 1529r. i cala reszta twojego wywodu. Kazimierz Wielki uczynil Polske dosc silna, zeby pognac was na 7 drzewo. Nie mieliscie z nami szans cymbaly. Ile twierdz murowanych mieliscie, ze sie tak wymadrzasz. Dostawaliscie baty od Krzyzakow, a my potrafilismy stawiac im czola. Tak jak chociazby w bitwie pod Plowcami. [link to pl.wikipedia.org]
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Try to write in English as it is hard to translate fragment by fragment.

Once again you've demonstrated distorted Polish history, calling it world's history. I'm sure that Poland may look as big as a world. There may be some things outside Great Poland too.

Literacy
It is sad as you do know only Scandinavian runes. There were 2 pictures of Scandinavian runes, one Estonian book, the rest Lithuanian. Baltic runes are not forgotten.
[link to www.baltai.lt]

It seems your country was among the few without them (illiterate).

Education
Church tried actively to replace runes with Latin alphabet so Latin literacy was encouraged much earlier for public use and teaching.

First schools teaching Latin appeared with Franciscans 1209 in Prussia, 1251 Lithuania. Primary parish schools were active in every church, every mansion and there were town schools. Grammar, rhetoric, dialectics, arithmetic, geometry, astronomy, music were subjects for primary schools. They were called gymnasiums and had either 5 or 7 year education. 7 year ones had philosophy and theology in last two years.
We did not have feudalistic slavery, as it was in Poland. It did make a difference in literacy. It was a lot different from Poland.
Every Lithuanian knows term "greedy slave" (used for invaders from feudalistic countries).

First schools of higher education appeared at the beginning XIV age by the same Franciscans. 1325 Dominicans started their schools. Since 1397 (date of baptism) first Cathedral schools appeared (for priests).

We do have numerous Lithuanian writings with exact dates while you do not know these dates. That's fishy. chuckle

Vilnius University did survive, but it was not the only one at the time. In Vilnius Protestant College appeared in 1539 by Abraomas Kulvietis and later with Stanislovas Rapalionis he moved to form University of Konigsberg.

Jesuits soon started their own in 1569 which was later renamed to Vilnius University in 1579. These were not the only places for higher education as there were 7 Colleges only in Vilnius region and just in 40 years it became 16.

Compulsory primary school of 1774 in Lithuania, does it tell something? Interesting thing about it is that most did prefer private schooling in villages and towns.

My guess it is not in your distorted history books?

Religion
Poland was tyrannical country. Lithuania was the only country that had free choice of religion at the time.
The best depiction is 1412 when Polish king Jogaila takes Przemysl cathedral (Eastern) and gives to Catholic bishop (such thing is unimaginable in Lithuania of the time). During 1596 gathering of Brest (splitting of Eastern church of Poland and Lithuania) both sides curse each other. These events illustrate what was the religious and national atmosphere with religious men cursing each other.
Ukrainians couldn't counteract aggressive Polish actions as Lithuanians did and result was obvious. While it is not so obvious for Poles even today?
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Try to write in English as it is hard to translate fragment by fragment.

Once again you've demonstrated distorted Polish history, calling it world's history. I'm sure that Poland may look as big as a world. There may be some things outside Great Poland too.

Literacy
It is sad as you do know only Scandinavian runes. There were 2 pictures of Scandinavian runes, one Estonian book, the rest Lithuanian. Baltic runes are not forgotten.
[link to www.baltai.lt]

It seems your country was among the few without them (illiterate).

Education
Church tried actively to replace runes with Latin alphabet so Latin literacy was encouraged much earlier for public use and teaching.

First schools teaching Latin appeared with Franciscans 1209 in Prussia, 1251 Lithuania. Primary parish schools were active in every church, every mansion and there were town schools.
Grammar, rhetoric, dialectics, arithmetic, geometry, astronomy, music were subjects for primary schools. They were called gymnasiums and had either 5 or 7 year education. 7 year ones had philosophy and theology in last two years.
We did not have feudalistic slavery, as it was in Poland. It did make a difference in literacy. It was a lot different from Poland.
Every Lithuanian knows term "greedy slave" (used for invaders from feudalistic countries).

First schools of higher education appeared at the beginning XIV age by the same Franciscans. 1325 Dominicans started their schools. Since 1397 (date of baptism) first Cathedral schools appeared (for priests).

We do have numerous Lithuanian writings with exact dates while you do not know these dates. That's fishy. chuckle

Vilnius University did survive, but it was not the only one at the time. In Vilnius Protestant College appeared in 1539 by Abraomas Kulvietis and later with Stanislovas Rapalionis he moved to form University of Konigsberg.

Jesuits soon started their own in 1569 which was later renamed to Vilnius University in 1579. These were not the only places for higher education as there were 7 Colleges only in Vilnius region and just in 40 years it became 16.

Compulsory primary school of 1774 in Lithuania, does it tell something? Interesting thing about it is that most did prefer private schooling in villages and towns.

My guess it is not in your distorted history books?

Religion
Poland was tyrannical country. Lithuania was the only country that had free choice of religion at the time.
The best depiction is 1412 when Polish king Jogaila takes Przemysl cathedral (Eastern) and gives to Catholic bishop (such thing is unimaginable in Lithuania of the time). During 1596 gathering of Brest (splitting of Eastern church of Poland and Lithuania) both sides curse each other. These events illustrate what was the religious and national atmosphere with religious men cursing each other.
Ukrainians couldn't counteract aggressive Polish actions as Lithuanians did and result was obvious. While it is not so obvious for Poles even today?
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your brain is disorted, idiot. A teraz kurwo napisze ci po polsku , tak zebys zrozumial, przestan cioto , kaleczyc polska historie i pierdolic , szmato w dupe rznieta, głupoty bo i tak cale glp sie na to odlewa szmatlawa kurwo litewska, psi odpadzie, a ty nic zyskasz, chcesz sie dowieciec cos wiecej o sojuszach z mogolami , marna imitacjo czlowieka to poczytaj o bitwie na Kulikowym Polu, tam kto sie ustawial z Mongolami, zasrana ruro , tepa kurwo, obesrana mendo

wszystkie uczelnie w twojej gownianej Litwie, te sprzed rozbiorow byly zakladane przez Polakow i wbij sobie do tej obsranej paly. Pisze po polsku bo mi tak wygodnie marny smieciu , skurwiala lachudro, skonczona kurwo, a teraz do dziela, tlumacz tlumoku .
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Some things do not change. Numerous insults against Lithuanian and Baltic history are often perpetrated by Polish. Numerous distortions and lies are spread as "Polish" (known by them as "World") history.
Maybe it's time to face reality instead of (pre)historical Polish-centered fairy tales.
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Jogaila sought more lands from Mongols and by helping Mamai he would have received more. Poland was tributary state to this Khan, not an ally, but rather a property. Maybe property rights to Poland were at hand (we'll never know)? He became your king anyway.
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12/08/2012 05:50 AM
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Jogaila has negative reputation in Lithuanian history despite Christianisation (1387). First civil wars after Baltic unification (1236) were started by his actions in 1381-1384 (Kulikovo battle where he arrived late 1380?), then 1389–1392 and he was kicked out from Lithuania (literally). Also all affairs with Poland started with him.

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12/09/2012 05:29 AM
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Some things do not change. Numerous insults against Lithuanian and Baltic history are often perpetrated by Polish. Numerous distortions and lies are spread as "Polish" (known by them as "World") history.
Maybe it's time to face reality instead of (pre)historical Polish-centered fairy tales.
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o czym ty w ogole chcesz rozmawiac czlowieku?
Najwyrazniej nie wiesz co to jest konstytucja , powiniennes wiedziec ,ze pierwsza byla amerykanska, potem polska. Mylisz Polske z carska Rosja, nazywasz moj kraj monarchia absolutna. Sorry ale za takie bzdury jak twoje, dostalbys F, nawet w nacjonalistycznej litewskiej szkole.
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12/09/2012 05:52 AM
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12/09/2012 07:52 AM
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It is about myth of "exceptional" Polish constitution. It was Lithianian-Polish commonwealth constitution (and second during Age of Enlightenment). Constitution is code of laws defining government and rights. Lithuania did have it a long time ago.

Have you heard about constitutio apostolica "Apostolic constitution"? It is a document from which historians took word constitution to begin with. How about San Marino constitution (1600) in use even today? Then Sumerian king Urukagina of Lagash 2300BC "code of justice"? How about democratic constitution of 610BC by Draco (and a word "Draconian") used in Athens or 594BC Solonian constitution?

These are not mentioned by your history?

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12/09/2012 09:06 AM
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Without Lithuanians like Kazimieras Simonavicius who published book about rocket artillery and invented lots of improvements or without military mastermind like Jonas Karolis Chodkevicius, war against Ottomans would have been fought in the middle of Poland, which was closer to them.
Maybe they did want to restore Mongolian Empire in former tributary state?
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