Goodbye free health care, hello 30 hour work week | |
| GMarq User ID: 15576092 11/07/2012 08:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 18380503 11/07/2012 08:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its mandatory here for a employee to work min 48 hours/week (IT sector)... Quoting: GMarq Not mandatory here. I can have all part time employees if I choose. If they try to change that I will just fire everyone and close shop. Or move my business to the Bahamas. I am not alone in this thinking. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7061022 11/07/2012 08:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Employers are too cheap. Papa Johns don't want to charge 15 cents a pizza in order to provide healthcare for their employees. This is during a time of records corporate profits and huge cash reserves. They have already been doing this because corporation HATE paying benefits and have always tried to avoid this expense. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25400765 11/07/2012 08:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's funny how short sighted people are. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18380503 Companies aren't going to pay this bill. They will just lower the hours of employees under the limit so they are exempt from Obama's slacker tax. We will become a part time nation which will probably be the death blow to our economy. 30 hours a week max as an employee. If you want 40 hours a week you'll have to juggle two jobs. It's gonna be hilarious. As a business owner I am definitely going underground. All my employees are going to 30 hours. Screw it. I'll dissolve my company before I pay that commie shit. And most business owners I know feel the same. "Thanks for the heads-up, you stupid Repuke" \ ![]() |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25400765 11/07/2012 08:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I recently got a job at a steel casting foundry in Wa state and they made all the new hires sign a paper that they agreed that they were 30 hour a week employees. You would get 40+ hours a week if you signed the paper and only 30 if you refused. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3643010 Fucking lying Repuke. Post a scan of said paper, otherwise kindly... ![]() |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25400765 11/07/2012 08:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's funny how short sighted people are. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18380503 Companies aren't going to pay this bill. They will just lower the hours of employees under the limit so they are exempt from Obama's slacker tax. We will become a part time nation which will probably be the death blow to our economy. 30 hours a week max as an employee. If you want 40 hours a week you'll have to juggle two jobs. It's gonna be hilarious. As a business owner I am definitely going underground. All my employees are going to 30 hours. Screw it. I'll dissolve my company before I pay that commie shit. And most business owners I know feel the same. lots of companies have already started making the move to all part time employees link? That's what I thought...no link, just more bullshit Repuke rhetoric. |
| BZB User ID: 26703704 11/07/2012 08:46 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's funny how short sighted people are. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18380503 Companies aren't going to pay this bill. They will just lower the hours of employees under the limit so they are exempt from Obama's slacker tax. We will become a part time nation which will probably be the death blow to our economy. 30 hours a week max as an employee. If you want 40 hours a week you'll have to juggle two jobs. It's gonna be hilarious. As a business owner I am definitely going underground. All my employees are going to 30 hours. Screw it. I'll dissolve my company before I pay that commie shit. And most business owners I know feel the same. lots of companies have already started making the move to all part time employees Obama will just pass laws to make it nearly impossible to do that. He will pass stiff penalties if that is the game they want to play. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7061022 11/07/2012 08:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I recently got a job at a steel casting foundry in Wa state and they made all the new hires sign a paper that they agreed that they were 30 hour a week employees. You would get 40+ hours a week if you signed the paper and only 30 if you refused. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3643010 See what I mean, employers don't care about your health. Finally we have an affordable system and they don't even want that for you. Employers should be doing back flips now that they can provide healthcare for their employees. NOT! |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7061022 11/07/2012 08:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's funny how short sighted people are. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18380503 Companies aren't going to pay this bill. They will just lower the hours of employees under the limit so they are exempt from Obama's slacker tax. We will become a part time nation which will probably be the death blow to our economy. 30 hours a week max as an employee. If you want 40 hours a week you'll have to juggle two jobs. It's gonna be hilarious. As a business owner I am definitely going underground. All my employees are going to 30 hours. Screw it. I'll dissolve my company before I pay that commie shit. And most business owners I know feel the same. lots of companies have already started making the move to all part time employees Obama will just pass laws to make it nearly impossible to do that. He will pass stiff penalties if that is the game they want to play. No, I think the people will get pissed off. People want healthcare, and they will resent their employers being cheap. A lot of people have pre-existing conditions. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 11995984 11/07/2012 08:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's funny how short sighted people are. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18380503 Companies aren't going to pay this bill. They will just lower the hours of employees under the limit so they are exempt from Obama's slacker tax. We will become a part time nation which will probably be the death blow to our economy. 30 hours a week max as an employee. If you want 40 hours a week you'll have to juggle two jobs. It's gonna be hilarious. As a business owner I am definitely going underground. All my employees are going to 30 hours. Screw it. I'll dissolve my company before I pay that commie shit. And most business owners I know feel the same. lots of companies have already started making the move to all part time employees Kroger has had that for years for most of its employees..along w/alot of service industry like servers etc. |
| Renegade (Me too) User ID: 24639180 11/07/2012 08:49 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I recently got a job at a steel casting foundry in Wa state and they made all the new hires sign a paper that they agreed that they were 30 hour a week employees. You would get 40+ hours a week if you signed the paper and only 30 if you refused. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3643010 So, emplyees will have to buy personal coverage to the tune of $500/ month or $6000 a year. How are we going to afford this? I guess we pay the fines, I mean taxes. Who is John Galt? |
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| Saddletramp User ID: 1052341 11/07/2012 08:50 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lot's of people about to lose their jobs altogether from this... Wall St. is giving thier opinion of this election even as we speak... Just because you're paranoid don't mean they ain't out to get ya! Paranoid?!?!? I wish! Shit son, we're hell and gone from paranoid... We don't rent pigs... Come and take it! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6990196 11/07/2012 08:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree this is what will happen as I see something else they have been doing: 1099 for full time. I and many others I know are 1099 for long term. that means no SS, unemployment, and other payroll issues. if you want a job in Florida on the lower end of the wage scale that is one way to lesson your cost so they are doing it though it is a form of tax evasion. Take it or starve. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 18380503 11/07/2012 08:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Employers are too cheap. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7061022 Papa Johns don't want to charge 15 cents a pizza in order to provide healthcare for their employees. This is during a time of records corporate profits and huge cash reserves. They have already been doing this because corporation HATE paying benefits and have always tried to avoid this expense. This is where you people are wrong. It is NOT the employer's responsibility to provide people 'benefits' or healthcare. THAT is the entire crux of the problem. You slackers want to the government to tax business to pay for your hypochondriac tendencies. If I have to pay that then I reserve the right to dictate what you eat, how much alcohol you drink, and if you are allowed to smoke. The entire health benefit enigma is a fraudulent scam. The government can not force this. We will revolt and punish the employees. That's just the way it is. You think you are entitled but you are not. You slackers are dillusional. You think that businesses are an inexhaustible pool of money when in truth most barely get by. Just because the company owner makes a couple dollars does not mean the company is raking in money. And even if the owner reduced his own salary to minimum wage it can never amount to paying healthcare for all the employees. It quite simply will not work. Even if it could work, the healthcare you would receive would be a nightmare like military style healthcare with death panels and mandatory vaccinations. You people fucked up. Get ready to pay for being greedy. |
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| AmericanJedi User ID: 1503533 11/07/2012 08:54 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's funny how short sighted people are. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18380503 Companies aren't going to pay this bill. They will just lower the hours of employees under the limit so they are exempt from Obama's slacker tax. We will become a part time nation which will probably be the death blow to our economy. 30 hours a week max as an employee. If you want 40 hours a week you'll have to juggle two jobs. It's gonna be hilarious. As a business owner I am definitely going underground. All my employees are going to 30 hours. Screw it. I'll dissolve my company before I pay that commie shit. And most business owners I know feel the same. lots of companies have already started making the move to all part time employees Yep, I am what you would call a multi-skilled person. I hold a college degree. I am welder, mechanic, and carpenter. I was formerly paramedic & firefighter. If I were not self-employed, I would be more frightened than am already. I have acquaintance that is a machinist and his company has all but a handful of people set to be cutback to part time, per diem, and other loopholes to deal with this man's reelection. "I'm a badass cowboy livin' on the west side---me and Artimus Clyde Frog gonna save Selma Hyak from a big metal spider." Satis Eloquentiae, Sapientiae Parum.... "It tells me, goose stepping morons like yourself should try reading books instead of burning them!" Henry Jones, JR. "Last Crusade." The CIA didn't kill Kennedy, a pissed off mob boss did! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27217283 11/07/2012 08:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's funny how short sighted people are. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18380503 Companies aren't going to pay this bill. They will just lower the hours of employees under the limit so they are exempt from Obama's slacker tax. We will become a part time nation which will probably be the death blow to our economy. 30 hours a week max as an employee. If you want 40 hours a week you'll have to juggle two jobs. It's gonna be hilarious. As a business owner I am definitely going underground. All my employees are going to 30 hours. Screw it. I'll dissolve my company before I pay that commie shit. And most business owners I know feel the same. Yes indeed. Today I will be firing 12 employees. Damn shame, they are all very good, but the profit margin on my business after Obamacare doesn't allow me to be charitable. Unlike Obama, affirmative action doesn't hand me everything I want. So, goodbye America. I quit. No more business, no more production, no more paying taxes. Gimme my Obamaphone, and then fuck off and die. ![]() |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5314341 11/07/2012 08:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | for the R's it all comes down to 'let 'em die' 'i got here all by myself' 'there is nothing in it for me in sharing at all and that's the way I'll live my life down to the micro level bum asking for a handout to the group of friends asking you to chip in for a surprise party for a friend that you just can't happen to make it to, all the way up to not wanting to pay your fair share for all the common good already around us that needs to be maintained--except for guns and aircraft carriers so they can make idle threats on message boards, feel smug about their lifestyle while caricaturing other preoples and customs, feeling self assured in the thought that just of our military being able to just about able to blow up any other countries while being virtually bulletproof with no personal sacrifice involved. I still love you but I hope you type of people broaden your minds and realize the media for the best interests of america brands certain people threats for totally different reason. People are people. When you start dehumanizing people, you've in part dehumanized yourself. Have a nice day. Hope this message helps you to rethink the values you've been pitched because cooperation is a lot better than subjugation and exploitation. |
| Fast Forward User ID: 15057455 11/07/2012 08:57 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's funny how short sighted people are. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18380503 Companies aren't going to pay this bill. They will just lower the hours of employees under the limit so they are exempt from Obama's slacker tax. We will become a part time nation which will probably be the death blow to our economy. 30 hours a week max as an employee. If you want 40 hours a week you'll have to juggle two jobs. It's gonna be hilarious. As a business owner I am definitely going underground. All my employees are going to 30 hours. Screw it. I'll dissolve my company before I pay that commie shit. And most business owners I know feel the same. lots of companies have already started making the move to all part time employees Or hire through temp agencies. Fast Forward |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25400765 11/07/2012 08:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's funny how short sighted people are. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18380503 Companies aren't going to pay this bill. They will just lower the hours of employees under the limit so they are exempt from Obama's slacker tax. We will become a part time nation which will probably be the death blow to our economy. 30 hours a week max as an employee. If you want 40 hours a week you'll have to juggle two jobs. It's gonna be hilarious. As a business owner I am definitely going underground. All my employees are going to 30 hours. Screw it. I'll dissolve my company before I pay that commie shit. And most business owners I know feel the same. Yes indeed. Today I will be firing 12 employees. Damn shame, they are all very good, but the profit margin on my business after Obamacare doesn't allow me to be charitable. Unlike Obama, affirmative action doesn't hand me everything I want. So, goodbye America. I quit. No more business, no more production, no more paying taxes. Gimme my Obamaphone, and then fuck off and die. ![]() Fucking lying Repuke. Link to your business, otherwise ![]() |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7061022 11/07/2012 08:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's funny how short sighted people are. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18380503 Companies aren't going to pay this bill. They will just lower the hours of employees under the limit so they are exempt from Obama's slacker tax. We will become a part time nation which will probably be the death blow to our economy. 30 hours a week max as an employee. If you want 40 hours a week you'll have to juggle two jobs. It's gonna be hilarious. As a business owner I am definitely going underground. All my employees are going to 30 hours. Screw it. I'll dissolve my company before I pay that commie shit. And most business owners I know feel the same. Yes indeed. Today I will be firing 12 employees. Damn shame, they are all very good, but the profit margin on my business after Obamacare doesn't allow me to be charitable. Unlike Obama, affirmative action doesn't hand me everything I want. So, goodbye America. I quit. No more business, no more production, no more paying taxes. Gimme my Obamaphone, and then fuck off and die. ![]() Then get the hell out of the way. This is a capitalist society. Another entrepreneur will just take your market. Bye now ![]() |