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Goodbye free health care, hello 30 hour work week

 
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11/07/2012 05:06 PM
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I'm going to still work my 40 hours a week. I have yet to hear any of this being mentioned at work.

If I was to work 30 hours a week I would be so far behind,especially around the holidays.
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11/07/2012 05:06 PM
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regardless who's in the whitehouse, any employer who treats his/her employees as no more than a statistical detail to measure against profit is a dick. these are people. with families and lives.
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Tough SHIT . Dont like it, hit the road. There are 30 people licking their chops for your job. We are in business, took risks,loans out the ass for the American dream ! My dream and i'll be damned if the Government is gonna tell me I have to insure people that are a dime a dozen.
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It's funny how short sighted people are.

Companies aren't going to pay this bill. They will just lower the hours of employees under the limit so they are exempt from Obama's slacker tax. We will become a part time nation which will probably be the death blow to our economy. 30 hours a week max as an employee. If you want 40 hours a week you'll have to juggle two jobs.

It's gonna be hilarious. As a business owner I am definitely going underground. All my employees are going to 30 hours. Screw it. I'll dissolve my company before I pay that commie shit. And most business owners I know feel the same.
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Health care isn't free,they take a big chunk out of our checks to cover our insurance, nothing is free unless your on welfare.
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11/07/2012 05:10 PM
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Lot's of people about to lose their jobs altogether from this...

Wall St. is giving thier opinion of this election even as we speak...
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yep big ceo investors threw out emails warning there employees if obama got back in =bye bye.

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11/07/2012 05:12 PM
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It's funny how short sighted people are.

Companies aren't going to pay this bill. They will just lower the hours of employees under the limit so they are exempt from Obama's slacker tax. We will become a part time nation which will probably be the death blow to our economy. 30 hours a week max as an employee. If you want 40 hours a week you'll have to juggle two jobs.

It's gonna be hilarious. As a business owner I am definitely going underground. All my employees are going to 30 hours. Screw it. I'll dissolve my company before I pay that commie shit. And most business owners I know feel the same.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18380503


Health care isn't free,they take a big chunk out of our checks to cover our insurance, nothing is free unless your on welfare.
 Quoting: Kootsweet


u forgot this side of the coin, if there was jobs here there would be little or no need for welfare.

mind the banks got the biggest handout in history trillions dollars.
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11/07/2012 05:14 PM
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Its mandatory here for a employee to work min 48 hours/week (IT sector)... shocked 30 hrs a week is unimaginable ... good luck
 Quoting: GMarq


Not mandatory here. I can have all part time employees if I choose. If they try to change that I will just fire everyone and close shop. Or move my business to the Bahamas.

I am not alone in this thinking.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18380503


.......and most of the clowns that you're gonna fire are Obamatards. lmao
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There should be no "most" about it. ALL the departing employees MUST be Obamatards, at least for the first wave. Hopefully there won't need to be a second wave. I read a post a while back, the poster was being forced to lay off some of his workers. He went out into the parking lot, and all of the cars that had Obama stickers on them ended up belonging to the people he laid off. They are the dingbats who voted to put these mandates into place, and yet they expect to avoid their negative consequences.
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11/07/2012 05:15 PM
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I work 30-32 hours a week for 3/4 of the year and still get health care...
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11/07/2012 05:18 PM

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I'm going to still work my 40 hours a week. I have yet to hear any of this being mentioned at work.

If I was to work 30 hours a week I would be so far behind,especially around the holidays.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18968393


I dont expect it to happen over night. Otherwise people become hip.

But I do expect the trend to continue for the next few months. As employers hire, they weight the option of available hours.

If their employee worked 30 hrs, they owe them their pay. If that same employee worked 35 hours, NOW the employer needs to pay health care AND their pay rate. Which is a drastic change in profit.

The 30 hrs line will not be breached unless you are REALLY needed (rare).

Eventually, people will be working less hours PER job. And people will pick up more jobs over time to make up the lost income.

That or the spouse works too, or uncles, etc.


The limits will be pushed for profits. Now this person has to work 2 jobs at 30 hrs/wk each. Basically making people work harder with out over time pay. Because now that person is working 60 hrs/wk w/o overtime.

As long as the jobs growth looks good, it will be easy for Obamas socialistic empire to grow.

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11/07/2012 05:26 PM
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I'm going to still work my 40 hours a week. I have yet to hear any of this being mentioned at work.

If I was to work 30 hours a week I would be so far behind,especially around the holidays.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18968393


I dont expect it to happen over night. Otherwise people become hip.

But I do expect the trend to continue for the next few months. As employers hire, they weight the option of available hours.

If their employee worked 30 hrs, they owe them their pay. If that same employee worked 35 hours, NOW the employer needs to pay health care AND their pay rate. Which is a drastic change in profit.

The 30 hrs line will not be breached unless you are REALLY needed (rare).

Eventually, people will be working less hours PER job. And people will pick up more jobs over time to make up the lost income.

That or the spouse works too, or uncles, etc.


The limits will be pushed for profits. Now this person has to work 2 jobs at 30 hrs/wk each. Basically making people work harder with out over time pay. Because now that person is working 60 hrs/wk w/o overtime.

As long as the jobs growth looks good, it will be easy for Obamas socialistic empire to grow.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


This part is good to know. I do 3 jobs where I work at and it doesn't get done right unless I do it.
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11/07/2012 05:46 PM
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This entire thread looks and sounds like whining Bull$shit. Grow up. If you are a professional you always are in demand. If you are an owner of business that actually produces things that are NEEDED, you are going to be just fine.

Whiners, go do something productive instead of dicking around at GLP, spitting tears and sheit about your miserable boring lives.
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11/07/2012 06:22 PM
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People will work more for less, out of necessity. All the trolls that seem to be rejoicing about this on here, I wonder why? What is bad for business and the individual worker, will be bad for the trollers as well. They must have the misery loves company syndrome. Take note, we as Americans don't know real third world poverty. A blow to the knees that takes America down on its haunches, will cripple the rest of the world along with it.
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11/07/2012 06:45 PM
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...A blow to the knees that takes America down on its haunches, will cripple the rest of the world along with it.
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The only difference that rest of the world already lives for less. Only american whiners whining about iPhones and loss of jobs that pay for these stupid iPhones. Pathetic.
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11/07/2012 06:54 PM

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I must be lucky because all summer long I worked overtime, 10 hours a day plus 8 hours on saturdays so we could catch up. The only way my company will be hurt is if we go back to horse and buggy and bicycles. As long as there are cars, my company will have customers because cars do break down and we supply the replacement parts. I have also been cross trained to work in every department, I don't understand why so many people shy away from being cross trained. The deal with my company is new hires work 37 1/2 hours, are not allowed to do overtime and we don't hire walk-ins. We get temps and the ones who work hard and show up on time every day get hired. I luckily started before the 37 1/2 hour policy was implemented, get 40 hours, vacation, personal days and dibs on overtime. We have a high turn over rate because it's a high paced environment with a lot of heavy lifting and manual labor.
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11/07/2012 09:17 PM
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You're a pathetic human being if you're too lazy to work 30 hours a week.
 Quoting: Sparrow and Medicine


You obviously did not read OP entire post.
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11/07/2012 09:31 PM
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It's funny how short sighted people are.

Companies aren't going to pay this bill. They will just lower the hours of employees under the limit so they are exempt from Obama's slacker tax. We will become a part time nation which will probably be the death blow to our economy. 30 hours a week max as an employee. If you want 40 hours a week you'll have to juggle two jobs.

It's gonna be hilarious. As a business owner I am definitely going underground. All my employees are going to 30 hours. Screw it. I'll dissolve my company before I pay that commie shit. And most business owners I know feel the same.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18380503


Well just make sure you increase the wage per hour and everything will be OK. You could pay exactly the same amount of weekly salary by doing this conversion. Now 30 hours is not a good number, you must decrease the hours to 24 hours a week. Foe example:

40 hours at $10 per hour = $400 a week
24 hours at $16.67 per hour = $400 a week

24 hours a week is mentally and physically healthy for the people, specially if they have children.
But to be fair if you cut hours you have to increase the wage.
Otherwise the government will crush your company.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18814915


You lil buddy are delusional. NO RAISE, NO BONUS,
30 HRS and out. goaway
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11/07/2012 09:40 PM
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I recently got a job at a steel casting foundry in Wa state and they made all the new hires sign a paper that they agreed that they were 30 hour a week employees. You would get 40+ hours a week if you signed the paper and only 30 if you refused.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3643010


See what I mean, employers don't care about your health.

Finally we have an affordable system and they don't even want that for you.

Employers should be doing back flips now that they can provide healthcare for their employees.

NOT!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7061022


Bullshit.

I'm a small business owner with 23 employees. They have a dental plan that is unbeatable (i pay for all non-cosmetic work), and health insurance. I clear roughly $60k a year and I work 60 hours a week. To say I don't care is an insult. Be more specific when calling out employers.
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11/07/2012 09:45 PM
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What everyone seems to be missing here is that the US health "industry" is the most ludicrously overpriced in the world. There is absolutely no reason that medical care should have those kinds of costs associated with it. It is plain greed in every sector of it that drives insurance costs to be so high. From the doctors, to the hospitals, to the drug companies, to the insurance companies. All of them need to have their fees and profits slashed to bring insurance costs down to a reasonable and affordable level.
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It's funny how short sighted people are.

Companies aren't going to pay this bill. They will just lower the hours of employees under the limit so they are exempt from Obama's slacker tax. We will become a part time nation which will probably be the death blow to our economy. 30 hours a week max as an employee. If you want 40 hours a week you'll have to juggle two jobs.

It's gonna be hilarious. As a business owner I am definitely going underground. All my employees are going to 30 hours. Screw it. I'll dissolve my company before I pay that commie shit. And most business owners I know feel the same.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18380503


I've already considered it. This is what they do in Europe and now this is what's going to be done in the states. We'll also develop a black market employment just like in Europe. This reality is like straight out of Ayn Rand's Atlas Shurgged book.
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11/07/2012 09:52 PM
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Lol , You bet your ass I will once obamacare kicks in. As I said, employee's will be working a max. 25-30 week.
Pssst.... Einstein , Once I cut everyone's hours I sure will. No raises, No bonus, No benifits.
Welcome to obamanation
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You'll get all the kick-ass employees who can't spell benefits.

cruise
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They dont need a brain LOL. Just do what I say and you will still have your job tomorrow, maybemoshpit
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11/07/2012 11:54 PM
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Lol , You bet your ass I will once obamacare kicks in. As I said, employee's will be working a max. 25-30 week.
Pssst.... Einstein , Once I cut everyone's hours I sure will. No raises, No bonus, No benifits.
Welcome to obamanation
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You'll get all the kick-ass employees who can't spell benefits.

cruise
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9395903


They dont need a brain LOL. Just do what I say and you will still have your job tomorrow, maybemoshpit
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4613981


It's actually already happening, at least in places like food and retail
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11/09/2012 06:08 AM
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I work 20h a week AND I have free health care. Sweden rules.
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You guys make an awesome meatball too!
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We make our own fighter jets too.
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11/29/2012 02:19 PM
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The reform is actually going to make it cheaper for companies to provide insurance. it is not going to cost them. If you find information otherwise on a RELIABLE source i would be interested......But all RELIABLE sources right now are saying pretty much that the companies that cut hours are only making mistakes that they were warned would hurt them and to me at that point it is their own dumb fault. They will loose their employees and be stuck trying to find people who want to work for a company that doesn't offer full time. They will then be forced to go back to offering 40 hour weeks to be able to get employees! So lets be smart about our choices here!
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The reform is actually going to make it cheaper for companies to provide insurance. it is not going to cost them. If you find information otherwise on a RELIABLE source i would be interested......But all RELIABLE sources right now are saying pretty much that the companies that cut hours are only making mistakes that they were warned would hurt them and to me at that point it is their own dumb fault. They will loose their employees and be stuck trying to find people who want to work for a company that doesn't offer full time. They will then be forced to go back to offering 40 hour weeks to be able to get employees! So lets be smart about our choices here!
 Quoting: YAS 28724457


You have got to be kidding me. Pure ignorance. You have obviously never been even close to a management or ownership position. If you want "RELIABLE" sources just look around at all the Big and Small businesses that are closing or laying off personnel.

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11/30/2012 01:59 AM
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The reform is actually going to make it cheaper for companies to provide insurance. it is not going to cost them. If you find information otherwise on a RELIABLE source i would be interested......But all RELIABLE sources right now are saying pretty much that the companies that cut hours are only making mistakes that they were warned would hurt them and to me at that point it is their own dumb fault. They will loose their employees and be stuck trying to find people who want to work for a company that doesn't offer full time. They will then be forced to go back to offering 40 hour weeks to be able to get employees! So lets be smart about our choices here!
 Quoting: YAS 28724457


Yes, you must be right. The economy is strong and those people who are not working are very reluctant and choosy when and if ever they are presented with a new position.

Your people are like gold! Take care of them well so they will be less likely to jump to one of your competitors!
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this sucks now i have to go on welfare thanks obama
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02/03/2013 01:53 PM
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I don't understand.

At the start of the year I'm being forced to pay for health insurance for myself and my son. 300 dollars a month they just take out of my check.

Why are business owners complaining if I'm paying for it?
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I don't understand.

At the start of the year I'm being forced to pay for health insurance for myself and my son. 300 dollars a month they just take out of my check.

Why are business owners complaining if I'm paying for it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11630085

why are you complaining?

my government takes away roughly half of my paycheck, every month. in return, i get subpar healthcare (it used to be better) and access to the whole social wellfare/wellness system should i need it (which include pension funds, but those have been gambled away by bad investments; the next generation of elder will have no pension, but they did pay for it their entire life).

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