Goodbye free health care, hello 30 hour work week

I'm an employer and I would rather not provide healthcare. To be honest, I have no idea why we provide health care. Everyone calls it competitive benefits and it is a big waste of time and costs a ton of money.

Healthcare costs go up 15% to 20% a year for the last 7 years.

Coverage goes down every year.

No one is using the healthcare we are paying for. Only a few use it.

If people want the government to own it, they can have it. Just tax the 1%.

Crap, I'm the 1%. I better sell my firm now...

Suck

FORCED health care, I already have all the health care I need, I don't Need Obamatic's help.

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Become an employer and grow your business - then tell me you like having all the extra expenses and taxes.

You are correct, this will be the model moving forward for me too. I run 45 employees and 15 contractors in the technology services area. I will be moving to less employees and more contractors because of all the government forms and taxes you have to do for employees.

When you are a contractor in IT consulting, you are 1099 and own everything. income tax and healthcare.

Makes my bookkeeping cleaner.

And, when a project ends. I don't have to carry them on the bench either. Cut.

You will be much happier and better for it. I simply observe the masses living their lives as walking dead. They are fun to talk to sometimes, but they do not get it. Yet.

Are you actually producing anything? Cause resell BS does not count as a "productive" "business".

You need to be in a high paying job to get healthcare. Making minimum wage does not even come close for your employer to pay your healthcare tab. Each person can run between $500 to $1,000 a month on health benefits.

Do the math

Well, then I guess you don't shop at Walmart--or most anywhere for that matter if you're opposed to "resell".

I have. And a lot are going on 'consulting' status - so I don't have to pay for any thing. They can pay their own way. BTW: Most of them love Oshithead.

But I thought Obama would lose your wrong again biyatchs.

You people are not getting it!

This is planned to PUSH people a certain direction.



This will...
1) Force employeers to reduce hours which makes them hire more part time work. Thus, creating jobs.

2) Many people who can not live under 30 hrs/wk will get 2nd jobs.

3) Crushes medical income by a large factor. Forcing cheap health care under socialistic programs.


So when Obama is proud he makes X millions of new jobs, you know its a joke/trick that I am disgusted with.

Four more years of BS and Commie tactics.

Yes, you are correct. I do not shop at Walmart. I earn a 6 figure salary as a software developer.

I agree with you OP!

Good for you!
Not 6 figures by a long shot, but happy and comfortable, but still refuse to shop at Walmart.

My only point was that most businesses are resell.

Form another EIN company and pay employees with both. 20 hrs each. That is what we are doing to keep our (4) employees at 40 hrs! We already did not offer insurance because we could't afford it, and we (as a family) don't have it either.

I was told yesterday that I would no longer receive a cost of living raise I have topped out. I don't make alot of money $33,000, and I can only assume this is due to mandatory health insurance. Some other changes, 4 new positions opened up, we need more people, these positions are posted for 16 hours. Really 16 hours a week? You would have to have at least 3 jobs to live on this, oh and they want open availability so basically it would be impossible to have another job since your hours will be all over the place. Welcome to the new economy.....

In CA. trucking co.s are working their part timers on the dock and drivers 4 hours max. no lunch , no break wtf

and they are hiring ? seriously .....

or go with contract employees

P.S. in 2008 we paid over 60 employees... before the melt down of the building industry.

So what? 25% less salary won't make any significant difference. Just purchase a smaller house or cheaper car or stop eating out and start cooking your meal (you will have time to that). If you give people 25% more of their free time to spend with their families, it is a very good sign. Who said that people should spend all their lives on somebody's wealth and not on their families? There are many countries with salaries 10-100 smaller than in US (with the same prices for food and goods) and people sill live there. Russia had at least two financial crashes. Nothing terrible happened. Bankruptcy is OK, hyperinflation is not that bad too. Working less on somebody and spending more time with your family is even better. Americans are spending too much on all sorts of junk, if they lose even 50% of their salaries they will simply buy less junk. Why do you need 2000+ sq feet for family of three when in most countries you will be happy to have 500 square feet for the same family? You got used to live in luxury but in socialism it is only the privilege of those in power, general population should live near poverty. Saving 5 years to buy a TV, saving 20 years to buy a car.

America chose the socialists path yesterday so get prepared for it.

Personally whenever I can I buy goods manufactured / produced in North America, food -> organic, local.

Why resell is not a real business IMHO? Resell does not produce and in 99% of cases resells someone else's work, lately in most cases resells cheap Chinese crap.

And I have a great RESPECT for people that actually PRODUCE THINGS.

Called the accountant this morning to start making my preparations for the new tax burdens... she said that I was around the 30th on this morning.

I get my appointment on Monday. That's ok. I can spend the weekend deciding what functions of the company are least profitable, so that they can be removed if necessary.

You get what you vote for, America.

Illegitimate job creation

Interesting... The only reason most people work until age 62 is so they don't have to pay for health care on their own. If you have a 401k or IRA, people maybe retiring in droves at age 55...

The sheep shall reap what they sow.

why don't we add a healthcare tariff to imports ???

might make your iPhone cast $1000 ... but hey

... and the markets are frowning. To say the least.