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Goodbye free health care, hello 30 hour work week

 
Beezy

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11/07/2012 11:09 AM

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Are you Beezer from AboveTS?

You appear to have Tea Party posts here at GLP.
 Quoting: Eurisko Tau Ceti


Nope, don't post on AboveTS. Interested in what, exactly, you consider a "Tea Party" post......
IvantZtrooth

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11/07/2012 11:10 AM
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yeah and then workers will go on strike and then you will put them back on their schedules. grow a brain and skip all the dumb shit
Anonymous Coward
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11/07/2012 11:10 AM
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Yep, We were talking about this at the company I work for last week. We figured if Obama won we'd have to cut about everyone down to 28 hours a week, Which won't be hard, Hell we may even hire more people, But it's already decided this is what we are planning on doing in the new year. Enjoy Ya'll.
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11/07/2012 11:14 AM
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Darlin ' we have been headed in that direction way before Obama. It was under Bush that the WH provided business with reducing hours and doing it in a manner which allowed for them not to have to pay overtime. Health care that has been provided was not ever free as you describe it, it was part of a package, agreed to between employers and employees

It was BIG business that designed the health care plan that passed. They wanted it. Look it up.
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I totally agree with you.

But this was a chance for people to change the path.
Anonymous Coward
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11/07/2012 11:14 AM
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yeah and then workers will go on strike and then you will put them back on their schedules. grow a brain and skip all the dumb shit
 Quoting: IvantZtrooth



Let them strike. There are plenty of people looking for work. With this trend, there will continue to be plenty of people looking for second and third jobs too.
Machine42

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11/07/2012 11:15 AM

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yeah and then workers will go on strike and then you will put them back on their schedules. grow a brain and skip all the dumb shit
 Quoting: IvantZtrooth


That will only work for some companies, make sure your brain is working correctly. If everyone goes on strike is this good for our country?
Anonymous Coward
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11/07/2012 11:15 AM
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It's gonna be hilarious. As a business owner I am definitely going underground. All my employees are going to 30 hours. Screw it. I'll dissolve my company before I pay that commie shit. And most business owners I know feel the same.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18380503


Any business owner threatening to dissolve their company over an issue probably doesn't have much of a business to begin with.
Beezy

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11/07/2012 11:17 AM

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yeah and then workers will go on strike and then you will put them back on their schedules. grow a brain and skip all the dumb shit
 Quoting: IvantZtrooth



Let them strike. There are plenty of people looking for work. With this trend, there will continue to be plenty of people looking for second and third jobs too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 813750


People in Right to work states don't strike. Lot's of us down here. Not in favor of unions, but I hate it when the answer is always "Go on strike" Ohhhh, scary! Yeah, strike here and then get in the back of the unemployment line.
Eurisko Tau Ceti

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11/07/2012 11:17 AM
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Yep, We were talking about this at the company I work for last week. We figured if Obama won we'd have to cut about everyone down to 28 hours a week, Which won't be hard, Hell we may even hire more people, But it's already decided this is what we are planning on doing in the new year. Enjoy Ya'll.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1438823


I think ObamaCare will be made - Null & Void - by

December 25, 2012.

Now that the election is over, it's a perfect time for

disclosure.

Standby for a Roswell Disclosure soon.

They have to start someplace.

BTW, have you noticed our sun appearing less yellow

and more white???
Matter / Antimatter Inducer = Proton Gun
Anonymous Coward
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11/07/2012 11:19 AM
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Its mandatory here for a employee to work min 48 hours/week (IT sector)... shocked 30 hrs a week is unimaginable ... good luck
 Quoting: GMarq


Not mandatory here. I can have all part time employees if I choose. If they try to change that I will just fire everyone and close shop. Or move my business to the Bahamas.

I am not alone in this thinking.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18380503


they also know that you'll bitch a little and then will get back to work. you're not going anywhere.
Anonymous Coward
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11/07/2012 11:19 AM
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I might be able to scrape by and live on 28 hours a week. But this leaves me with zero extra funds to pay for my own health coverage, or the tax fines for not having it. No one else is hiring, so a 2nd job is out of the question for now. What are people supposed to do in this situation?
Beezy

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11/07/2012 11:19 AM

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It's gonna be hilarious. As a business owner I am definitely going underground. All my employees are going to 30 hours. Screw it. I'll dissolve my company before I pay that commie shit. And most business owners I know feel the same.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18380503


Any business owner threatening to dissolve their company over an issue probably doesn't have much of a business to begin with.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15015575


Nah, I'd say that any business owner threatening to dissolve his company has probably made his quota of $$$ and just doesn't need government crap anymore. A lot of business owners are set for life and just keep it up because they enjoy the work and the ability to give someone else a job. But when the gooberment makes it not fun anymore, I don't blame 'em!
Anonymous Coward
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11/07/2012 11:20 AM
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It's funny how short sighted people are.

Companies aren't going to pay this bill. They will just lower the hours of employees under the limit so they are exempt from Obama's slacker tax. We will become a part time nation which will probably be the death blow to our economy. 30 hours a week max as an employee. If you want 40 hours a week you'll have to juggle two jobs.

It's gonna be hilarious. As a business owner I am definitely going underground. All my employees are going to 30 hours. Screw it. I'll dissolve my company before I pay that commie shit. And most business owners I know feel the same.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18380503


lots of companies have already started making the move to all part time employees
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Obama will just pass laws to make it nearly impossible to do that. He will pass stiff penalties if that is the game they want to play.
 Quoting: BZB


No he wont..Cause he would have to care about you to do that and he doesn't. I also know for a fact that Hawaii already does the part time employee gig so almost everyone who works there has to work 2 or 3 jobs to survive. Its because if they are full time the company has to offer insurance..and theyre to cheap to do that. So in essence we will become like Hawaii without the perks.
Beezy

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11/07/2012 11:21 AM

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I might be able to scrape by and live on 28 hours a week. But this leaves me with zero extra funds to pay for my own health coverage, or the tax fines for not having it. No one else is hiring, so a 2nd job is out of the question for now. What are people supposed to do in this situation?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21966521


AND you'll make just above the limit to get any assistance with ANYTHING. Welcome to the new "middle" class! SMH We're all F--ked.
Anonymous Coward
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11/07/2012 11:22 AM
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And 30 hour work weeks are bad because????

I for one want around a 20 hour work week.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14117924


and that will pay for what?

or thats right..the gubmint will pay for everything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1379065


Will pay for the things you need. Have faith. Create your own life.

We need to stop the crazy consumnistic world anyway.
Anonymous Coward
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11/07/2012 11:23 AM
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hold on, only two more years until Obamacare is in effect.



Oooooobama 5a 5a
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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11/07/2012 11:24 AM
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yeah and then workers will go on strike and then you will put them back on their schedules. grow a brain and skip all the dumb shit
 Quoting: IvantZtrooth


Non union shop. If they go on strike I will consider that quitting. I will refute their attempts to collect unemployment and hire all new employees. Or I will just close my doors and go on vacation for a year.

Wake up to the fact that most businesses are willing to let it all go. There is no point in continuing on if the ultimate reason for being in business in the first place has been crushed by a tyrannical government.

I am here to make profits and generate income. Sure I care about my employees but I am not here to take care of them like little babies. They are grown adults who should be able to get by in the world just like I do.

Voting for Obama was a union vote by proxy against my business. Businesses everywhere. Basically a hostile takeover. I was more than happy to keep things going along nicely. But not now. I save for a rainy day. Shutting my doors will just give me more time to go out on my sport fish.
Anonymous Coward
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11/07/2012 11:25 AM
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Its mandatory here for a employee to work min 48 hours/week (IT sector)... shocked 30 hrs a week is unimaginable ... good luck
 Quoting: GMarq


Asshole we are not in fucking india!!!! in north America 40h is std anything over is overtime
Anonymous Coward
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11/07/2012 11:26 AM
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Employers who do this are only encouraging people to sign up for food stamps, welfare and free Obamaphones to supplement their low income. And this isn't a new idea, the "part-time" model was happening when George W. was president. How much is enough for these rich winner-take-all types? It's despicable! Have some backbone corporate America!
Anonymous Coward
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11/07/2012 11:26 AM
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I work 20h a week AND I have free health care. Sweden rules.
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Yeah,guess you´re not Swedish then ?

Because the only ones having free healthcare here
is the "immigrants".

Us others have NO free health care.

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Mwalk
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11/07/2012 11:27 AM

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Go for it. I want to blame Obama for this mess.

I am so upset that he won. DRATS!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24425839


Blame the cheap employers. Why blame the guy who is trying to provide affordable healthcare for you and your family.

Get a clue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7061022


What? Did you fall off the Stupid Wagon? It's geniuses like you that pioneer in new 'all time lows'. You obviously have no FUCKING clue as to how the health care system works. The 'head of the class' status will no longer apply to US health care, that money/monies used for R & D will now go to pay for Shaniqua, and DeAndre's and so on and so forths health care tab, and those of you that need THE WORKS, because you drank or ate too much and treated your bodies like a dump, will NOT get the works, but rather pain pills and a sincere 'We are sorry, but your condition exceeds our Gov. cost standards, enjoy whats left!! Signed B. HUSSEIN OBOZO.... jackass in charge
Eu não posso viver Eu não posso respirar, a menos que você faça isso comigo
Anonymous Coward
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11/07/2012 11:27 AM
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The new trend in Britain I do believe is a zero hour contract. Employers expect complete flexability from employees..we will get a contract for one hour a week, or zero hours, then have to work when required. This sucks. No paid holiday anymore,and how can anyone expect to keep up mortgage payments etc? The big companies are now laying ppl off to get new more flexible employees in to completely exploit. Gotta love the tories.
Anonymous Coward
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11/07/2012 11:28 AM
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So I am completely ignorant when it comes to Obamacare and have a few questions for somebody that knows what they are talking about.

If employers will be required to provide health insurance for full-time employees, will that still hold true for employees who are full-time and covered under a spouse's policy?

An example would be a military spouse working a full-time job. They would be 100% covered by Tricare. If they didn't have to supply health insurance would it not be more beneficial for employers to hire people already covered by somebody elses insurance policy?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12637870


Problem is..now as an example my husbands work as of Jan 1st if I the spouse can get insurance through my employer his employer will no longer cover me..I have to get it at my work even if it is worse insurance at my work. But its the same at my company..if my husband can get it at his work he has to do that.
FatalW1shes

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11/07/2012 11:28 AM

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I recently got a job at a steel casting foundry in Wa state and they made all the new hires sign a paper that they agreed that they were 30 hour a week employees. You would get 40+ hours a week if you signed the paper and only 30 if you refused.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3643010


See what I mean, employers don't care about your health.

Finally we have an affordable system and they don't even want that for you.

Employers should be doing back flips now that they can provide healthcare for their employees.

NOT!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7061022


One thing in short supply is Democratic Business owners.


I invite you to start a business and hire employees.

You cannot understand the costs involved until you do. Nobody can explain it to you. It's a matter of staying in business, not caring about your health.

You will never understand because you want something for free just like all other liberals.


Nothing is free. This is the real world. Obama does not reflect the real world and fucking with the real world like he does causes real consequences.

Instead of bitching, sit down with the owner of your company and see what it costs to employ you. Its almost double your hourly wage before health care taxes.


But you probably don't care because your business Is rich and can afford to pay.
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11/07/2012 11:29 AM
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And BIG PHARMA must be sooo happy......
Anonymous Coward
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11/07/2012 11:29 AM
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for the R's it all comes down to 'let 'em die' 'i got here all by myself' 'there is nothing in it for me in sharing at all and that's the way I'll live my life down to the micro level bum asking for a handout to the group of friends asking you to chip in for a surprise party for a friend that you just can't happen to make it to, all the way up to not wanting to pay your fair share for all the common good already around us that needs to be maintained--except for guns and aircraft carriers so they can make idle threats on message boards, feel smug about their lifestyle while caricaturing other preoples and customs, feeling self assured in the thought that just of our military being able to just about able to blow up any other countries while being virtually bulletproof with no personal sacrifice involved.

I still love you but I hope you type of people broaden your minds and realize the media for the best interests of america brands certain people threats for totally different reason. People are people. When you start dehumanizing people, you've in part dehumanized yourself.

Have a nice day. Hope this message helps you to rethink the values you've been pitched because cooperation is a lot better than subjugation and exploitation.
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damn your lack of history is staggering and common. Google Weimer Republic moran
Anonymous Coward
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11/07/2012 11:31 AM
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Full time part time with no benefits......................... this is nothing new and in fact it has been the direction of quite a few large companies over the last decade or more. They phase out full time 40+ hour a week employees with benefits and perks, replacing them with the part time employee that permanently works less hours and does not qualify.

The recent health care issue and others are just accelerating a trend that was already there.
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11/07/2012 11:31 AM
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I recently got a job at a steel casting foundry in Wa state and they made all the new hires sign a paper that they agreed that they were 30 hour a week employees. You would get 40+ hours a week if you signed the paper and only 30 if you refused.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3643010


See what I mean, employers don't care about your health.

Finally we have an affordable system and they don't even want that for you.

Employers should be doing back flips now that they can provide healthcare for their employees.

NOT!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7061022


Why should healthcare be tied to employment? Many people cannot be employed or are self employed. And most countries provide health care through taxes whether you are employed or not. An employer should just proved a place to work and nothing else. Healthcare should be provided through our taxes for everyone. That would make healthcare a no-brainer for everyone.
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11/07/2012 11:31 AM
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Let's be honest, you'll never go to 30 hours a week per employee, you'd never make any money. I know, cause I use to own a business myself! Unless you're sending jobs to China to save on labor, good luck with that. It's time to end the scare tactics.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18718744


NO , These are not scare tactics. This is reality of the future. We can and will run our employees on 30 hours max.
I will hire three extra part-timers to pick up the slack. Problem solved.dance
Anonymous Coward
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11/07/2012 11:33 AM
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Due to this Obama care BS our new insurance plan is more like a savings plan. No more 20 dollar copay dr visits. You have to come 2013 come up with a 5K deductible before the insurance will even kick in and pay a damn dime. WTF insurance is this? It makes Obama care look good, even though I know it is due to Obamacare as it now would cost our company more to have the better insurance, so instead of no insurance we will just get SHIT insurance.

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