Goodbye free health care, hello 30 hour work week

iPhone is not the only "phone" you know... made in China btw.

That is an illegal tactic that too many employers use. If you as an employer provide the items and equipment to do the job, set the hours of work and tell how the job will be performed you have hired an employee, not a contractor.

"markets" = great fraud = BS

Another prediction from the crowd that predicted Romney would crush Obama.

Why don't you go to your boss then and tell him/her that you want to give up your health coverage, and go part time down to a 30 hour week. I guarantee you they'll do it.

I own a business too. I put my house and all my assets on the line with the bank to establish the cash line of credit to get the business going. My wife and I risked everything we have to get going. I now employ 42 people. None of them would risk shit to start their own business. But they think nothing of trying to tell me how to run mine.

It's people like YOU who are just as much the problem....the ones who think they are entitled to a job, entitled to the same pay and benefits of the ones who risked everything to build it.

This healthcare law, best as we can tell, is going to cost my company an additional 68,000 dollars next year. That's a lot. That's two more people I could have employed if you want to look at it that way. I'm near retirement. I think every day about selling out. The only reason I don't yet is becuase I have 42 people counting on me for ther families and livelyhood.

Fuck you chum.

Dimwit.

What your business actually does? Does it produce things? or its another fast food BS or resell shop?

might as well just dissolve Congress....Obama will rule by decree? Is that what you are saying?

WHO IS JOHN GALT

So I have always wondered why is health insurance so damn expensive anyway? Wouldn't it have been better to reform the insurance industry and stop the price gouging from hospitals rather than forcing people to literally work themselves to death? What an oxymoron work yourself sick so you can have healthcare, backwards thinking.

So I am completely ignorant when it comes to Obamacare and have a few questions for somebody that knows what they are talking about.

If employers will be required to provide health insurance for full-time employees, will that still hold true for employees who are full-time and covered under a spouse's policy?

An example would be a military spouse working a full-time job. They would be 100% covered by Tricare. If they didn't have to supply health insurance would it not be more beneficial for employers to hire people already covered by somebody elses insurance policy?

I have a business, and I very fair with my employees. When we make money, they make money.
There's some weeks they pull in more than me.

It takes some balls to put your ass on the line for a start up business, I went through hell to get it up and running.

If I can't afford the health care, what are my choices. I cut back or layoff.

I work 20h a week AND I have free health care. Sweden rules.

You guys make an awesome meatball too!

What your business actually does? Does it produce things? or its another fast food BS or resell shop?

IT is one of the few areas that you can get away with that...Big Brother is very strict about who can and cannot be a 1099. Believe me, we've gotten in big trouble trying to list a 1099 when they should have been W-2.

Wait till you see when the large DOD centric corporations (especially the DoD funding suckers) have in stored. Congress is going to have a sequestration and all these major employers are going to have massive lay-offs that will rock this country's economy. Not saying it's a bad thing as this country is to dependent upon Uncle Sam's war machine, but it was one of the issues that Obamma and his minions swept under the rug during this re-elction. That's when the real fun starts....plus the bread lines.

Well, not really.

If you stop and look at the big picture,

EVERYTHING will change December 21, 2012.

ObamaCare will become - Null & Void - January 2014.

so we can pay everyone half of what they made, and we don't have to listen to them complain if we give them 30 hours a week and we save MOney?? YESSSS!!!

Fabrication, steel. No bullshit buy sell crap.

Yes, we did build that.

Hmmm...Right now it is 6:48 am pacific standard time and seeing as how the office doors don't open until 9:00 PST I find it hard to believe that you were able to reach anyone in the office. So blah blah blah ya dumb ass lib-tard-Obama-Nazi-mouth breathing Walmartian-

Good for you! I am sure that if whatever you do it actually NEEDED you are going to be just fine.

My insurance has a working spouse fee, if my spouse opts out of insurance at work and is insured on my policy I pay $200 per month more, however if spouse is insured at work there is no additional fee to have my policy as secondary coverage. I don't know if that's the same everywhere.

They have to make it "available". You don't have to take it. And you will pay the full premium, so it doesn't matter to them if you take it or not. And they have to make it "affordable". So the solution will be for companies to have two options. One will be a crap policy with a super high deductable that doesn't cover anything. That one will be "affordable". Then they will offer a decent policy (like we are used to now) and that one will cost you an arm and a leg and your first born son.

THe issue is really, finding the most efficient way to meet a need.

People need healthcare. Both because the American way of life causes sickness (lax regulations on chemicals, fast food full of additives and little nutrition, streets with no sidewalks and other things that make us rely on cars rather than walking,and on and on)

One of the things we produce in this country is unhealthy people.

Some are willing to let sick people suffer unaided, but most are not.

The best case as it now stands is that everyone hires a healthcare insurer. But that is far from the actual case. More than half of the people have no healthcare insurance.

They still get sick, though. And they are treated in emergency rooms and at government expense. Because the people who actually come face to face with others who are in crisis and suffering, can not push them out the door and let them die in the street.

Our taxes go to helping them. So the American people are paying to look after those with no healthcare.

In other words, we are already paying for insurance for the uninsured. Business owners who don't provide insurance for their employees just pass it on to the people in general.

They complain about having to provide group insurance for their workers, but they end up paying for heathcare for the uninsured anyway through use of their taxes, unless they find ways to avoid taxes and then they pass the bill on to others.

The bottom line is, we are as strong in this country as our weakest link. You can try to avoid this, but it comes out in social unstability, and environment of deprivation and despair.

You may think you and yours are okay because you are insulated from it. But it doesn't go away. It gets worse.

You may think you can stay clear of it, but your children, your grandchildren may not be as wily as you, and you will be handing them a world where they HAVE to maintain the level of priviledge for themselves that you have established for yourself or else become a part of the vast unpriviledged. Your personal legacy will only last a generation or two and then will be up to your descendents.

It is for your own good and the good of your descendants that we solve large social problems and create a kinder, safer world.

The need for health care is there. It's not like you can imagine it away. We should all be figuring out how we can meet it rather than trying to shove it off on others.

Are you Beezer from AboveTS?

You appear to have Tea Party posts here at GLP.

Op you are so wise. I swear, I can't understand for the life of me what people are thinking. They feel entitled to have free healthcare. Crazy! I agree with everything you've written OP!!!!

But that's not what he's saying... He'll hire them at 30hrs ...they will still work 50hrs... and won't get health insurance.

Wait a minute... First you cry ermahgerd that companies will do this terrible thing, then you follow it up saying that this is what you're going to do in your own company?

Hello pot, I'm the kettle: YOU'RE BLACK!