Goodbye free health care, hello 30 hour work week

OK I'll bite. What job is that?

Since years ago, all the professional jobs I've had are basically 50 hours/week, sometimes a bit more, sometimes a bit less.

You know, if we just spent less money on our military this wouldn't be too big an issue. I love how so many GLPtards are still stuck in the 2 party brainwashing.

It's funny how short sighted people are.

Companies aren't going to pay this bill. They will just lower the hours of employees under the limit so they are exempt from Obama's slacker tax. We will become a part time nation which will probably be the death blow to our economy. 30 hours a week max as an employee. If you want 40 hours a week you'll have to juggle two jobs.

It's gonna be hilarious. As a business owner I am definitely going underground. All my employees are going to 30 hours. Screw it. I'll dissolve my company before I pay that commie shit. And most business owners I know feel the same.

Well just make sure you increase the wage per hour and everything will be OK. You could pay exactly the same amount of weekly salary by doing this conversion. Now 30 hours is not a good number, you must decrease the hours to 24 hours a week. Foe example:

40 hours at $10 per hour = $400 a week
24 hours at $16.67 per hour = $400 a week

24 hours a week is mentally and physically healthy for the people, specially if they have children.
But to be fair if you cut hours you have to increase the wage.
Otherwise the government will crush your company.

Employers are too cheap.

Papa Johns don't want to charge 15 cents a pizza in order to provide healthcare for their employees.


This is during a time of records corporate profits and huge cash reserves.

They have already been doing this because corporation HATE paying benefits and have always tried to avoid this expense.

Blame the cheap employers. Why blame the guy who is trying to provide affordable healthcare for you and your family.

Get a clue.

Greedy fucks like this make my blood boil. Are we supposed to slave away working 40-50 hours a week and never get a holiday or a vacation? Are you that fucking greedy?

See what I mean, employers don't care about your health.

Finally we have an affordable system and they don't even want that for you.

Employers should be doing back flips now that they can provide healthcare for their employees.

NOT!

Well just make sure you increase the wage per hour and everything will be OK. You could pay exactly the same amount of weekly salary by doing this conversion. Now 30 hours is not a good number, you must decrease the hours to 24 hours a week. Foe example:

40 hours at $10 per hour = $400 a week
24 hours at $16.67 per hour = $400 a week

24 hours a week is mentally and physically healthy for the people, specially if they have children.
But to be fair if you cut hours you have to increase the wage.
Otherwise the government will crush your company.

Wow, everyone is so busy arguing pointless details to see the big picture.

I posted 3 times and no one gets it?

That or I am being intelligently filtered................


It is about job creation and redistributing wealth.



If we have 100 jobs working 40 hr/wk

We could have 200 jobs at 20 hr/wk and make it look like jobs climbed 100% with 100 new jobs.

But, there is no additional wealth put into society with these job gains. So the wealth is redistributed to the newly employed part timer.

The result is even more jobs created when the previously employed at 40+ hrs has to get a second job.

Suddenly no body has insurance because the employer doesnt need to provide insurance (30 and under hrs)

Now Obammy can force you to purchase insurance out of pocket.






I can not believe America fell for this great rip off!!!

Obaaaaamaaaa gave me afone! So im gonn vote fo him.

And THAT is the reason we all need to bend over the desk and take what's coming!

I am DUMBFOUNDED that ingnorant welfare crackheads will make sure they get out to vote to save their sorry asses but not actually be a useful part of society.

Good thing we have the baby machines! Keep pumping out those welfare babes! Cause Obaaaaama is gonn take good care of you!

Unfuckingbelievable!

Greedy? You have no idea how much I give to others.. Including my employees. What are you so angry about?

Your response shows you will never get it.

I am an american who moved to NZ.

I used to pay about $500/mo to cover myself and 2 children on my state provided health insurance (I was a teacher). (state paid half of mine so total cost was $750/mo)

My husband wasn't covered by my insurance at work but would have added $400/mo.


we moved to NZ with socialized medicine.


if you need stitches or have an infected finger, this system rocks!
I pay $20 co pay (higher other places) for a doctor's visit and $3 for prescriptions.

But god forbid something happens to you!!

have a heart attack? go to hospital, stay about 5 ho v urs until stable and then SENT HOME. (it was free but you get what you pay for)

and wait for the referral to the cardiologist. That took 7 weeks to arrive.

the appointment for the heart monitor (not even to see the cardiologist yet) was over a month after the referral letter arrived.

it takes another month to actually see the cardiologist.

hope the heart condition is not serious.


We pay well over 50% of our income in taxes (we have a progressive flat tax here of about 20 up to 70,000 and then 35% over that) and the goods and service tax (on every penny you spend) is 15% (on land, on food, on EVERYTHING)

and yet, to have any kind of healthcare, we need to spend over $200 per month on insurance here

So you're saying that people in Canada generally work 30 or less hours a week and still have to pay hundreds a month for insurance policies? I didn't think so.

Are you guys even reading the post? People WANT/NEED to work full time, but can't. Most of the jobs lost in the recession were full-time high wage jobs, nearly ALL of the jobs created this year (in the private sector), are low wage Part-time jobs.

FORCED health care, I already have all the health care I need, I don't Need Obamatic's help.

Employer provided "health insurance" is what started the massive increase in health care costs.

TRUE. Them people think its gonna be free. right now it costs 3800 bucks when a doctor sticks a tiny camera up your butt.

Employers should have never gotten involved in the health insurance business.

Not mandatory here. I can have all part time employees if I choose. If they try to change that I will just fire everyone and close shop. Or move my business to the Bahamas.

I am not alone in this thinking.

Commie shit?
A system that is trying to provide health care for all so that a woman (a grandmother, mother, daughter, sister) with breast cancer can get it treated rather than it be a death sentence.

So that from the time it is diagnosed to her death (if left untreated) the cancer does not break through her skin, weeping.

Commie shit?

[link to www.nytimes.com]

No you have that confused with (Christian/other faiths) compassion and social justice.

When Obama says "middle class" he means at best what I would call "working class". And he considers everyone "talented" no matter how, um, stupid they are.

Wow, everyone is so busy arguing pointless details to see the big picture.

I posted 3 times and no one gets it?

That or I am being intelligently filtered................


It is about job creation and redistributing wealth.



If we have 100 jobs working 40 hr/wk

We could have 200 jobs at 20 hr/wk and make it look like jobs climbed 100% with 100 new jobs.

But, there is no additional wealth put into society with these job gains. So the wealth is redistributed to the newly employed part timer.

The result is even more jobs created when the previously employed at 40+ hrs has to get a second job.

Suddenly no body has insurance because the employer doesnt need to provide insurance (30 and under hrs)

Now Obammy can force you to purchase insurance out of pocket.






I can not believe America fell for this great rip off!!!

As someone who doesn't live in the U.S,
can you please explain why you don't want free healthcare?
here in N.Z anything goes wrong, accident or disease, and you are treated, easy, free, no problems.

We don't have to pay ridiculous taxes to make it work either.
If it works for us surely the great country of Merica can pull it off?

and we also don't bitch about the 'freeloaders' that make use of this basic human right.

I really get confused at the lack of compassion and empathy from people that like to think of themselves as 'Christian'

link?

That's what I thought...no link, just more bullshit Repuke rhetoric.

Not only that, but those 200 20-hour/week workers will not have the "disposable income" to go and buy things. If no one can afford to buy what the companies produce, those companies will go out of business, creating more unemployment and more people desperately sucking on the Government teat. It's a downward spiral, and once it has begun there is little to no chance of coming out of it.