1,613,277 of you voted for a third party giving the election to Obama

Not necessarily. For example, if 200k were in Kentucky, where I'm from, and voted for Romney instead of 3rd party, that would have no effect. Tell me which states 3rd party people voted in, and then multiply those 3rd party voters, by say, 65% to get whats likely still an unfair advantage in assumption, and tell me if it makes any difference.

Great point. Here is a link to the result per state.

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And yes it did make a difference.

One star. Really? I appreciate that you disagree. There must be others that agree with me. Please rate this posting.

If everyone of you voted 3rd party instead of Romney, Obama wouldn't be there.

I know. I just don't understand why people don't see that.

They said "I want to make a statement."

Their statement was a vote for Obama.

Is that what they wanted?

It is what they voted for.

People need to realize this when there are only two choices. Really!

So stupid.

1,613,277 people voted third party because they didn't want to vote for a socialist or a fascist. They are the 1% that actually used their fucking brains.

I agree with you, but third parties never get equal media attention and therefore will not be able to win. The system would have to change first. Laws would have to be put in place that guaranteed equal media. Do you think that will happen. I would love to see it happen as much as you. People have been trying this for years and years. The result is always the same. Third party votes pull from the challenger.

THIS!

Blaming your fuck ups on somebody else is a proud American political tradition.

Obama did it, and now Romney is doing it too.

No they are stupid. They got a socialist. That was their vote. Just stupid.

Actually, the popular vote does matter.
It weakens the electoral victor politically.

THIS!

Derogatory remarks and vulgar language do not prove your intelligence.

A lot of those people who voted for 3rd party simply wouldn't have voted at all if only given the option of voting for romney or obama. So it didn't affect the outcome.

200k in California alone. No difference.
50k in Colorado, no difference.
16k in Connecticut, no difference.
5k Delaware, no difference.
About 63k 3rd partiers in Florida. Vote difference was 46k. I doubt Romney would have gotten ~73% of those votes to propel him to win.
7k in Hawaii, no difference.
84k in Illinois, no difference.
20k in Indiana, no difference.
44k Maryland, no difference.
47k in Massachusetts, no difference.
41k in Michigan, no difference.
59k Minnesota, no difference.
19k Nevada, no difference.
34k New Jersey, no difference.
32k New MExico, no difference.
86k New York, no difference.
88k Ohio, NO DIFFERENCE.
38k Oregon, no difference.


I really don't think I need to go on. All that was assuming everyone voting 3rd party voted for Romney instead.

Voted for Johnson and Gray in Ohio. I voted for Obama last time, so he lost one vote.

Why............because thats what glp tells you?

That's what common sense tells me.

If you want my vote you have to earn it. You didn't. Try again.

Statistically impossible. FL would have been the only state that was in play due to the other canidates. If all the "other" canidates votes went to Romney it would have put him over the top. And their 29 electoral votes would not had made any difference.

Sorry can't put a spin on math.

Florida 70,949 third party votes would bring Romney to 4,154,270 to Obama 4,129,360. Florida has 29 electoral votes.

Still think it doesn't make a difference?

Colorado with 77% precincts reporting:
52,477 third party votes would bring Romney to 1,145,400 to Obama's 1,177,303. Provisional ballots still have to be counted as well.

Just examples. The main point in the whole thread is to remind people what happens with the current voting system when third party votes are cast.

if you fucks didn't vote for romney and instead went for johnson we would have beat obama. thanks to you SHEEP we get obama.

Voting with integrity is never a wasted vote. This is an attraction based universe. You get what you put your attention on.

Uh, when assuming Romney gets 100% of 3rd party votes, maybe it makes a small difference in that he loses 274 to 240 something. If he got all votes in Florida, he still would have lost Ohio. No difference.

If the Republican party machine had nominated a viable candidate instead of forcing a douchebag like Romney on us, maybe things would have turned ot differently.

it doesn't matter both sides are working for the same secret group of elites and bankers. they are both puppets placed strategically by the endorsements and deals guaranteed by lobbyists...

haven't you worked it out already, even if a third party was to start being a legitimate factor, they would place a puppet in as that parties leader as well, making it 3 puppets...

think about what the election would look like without, corporate endorsements, zionist banking funding and elitist media manipulation....

I like Gary Johnson, but at the same time I knew he couldn't win. I think he knew it too but selfishly stayed in. So he and everyone who voted for him, congratulations, you gave effectively screwed this great country in the ass. So when things really start falling apart and you come to me crying, I will tell you to shove it up your ass and smile.

I was going to vote third party, but I voted for Obama. I can't stomach the far right social agenda. We need a candidate who values individual freedom but is fiscally conservative. I was tempted to vote for the libertarian candidate, but thought that would be throwing my vote away.

If Romeny could have been the Romney he was a decade ago, he likely would have gotten my vote. Too much shape shifting and going closer toward people who think that women who are raped should be the vessels for rapists' seed.

We don't need burkas and women shot in the face in this country. The far right in the U.S. has more in common with that than you realize.

Obama blames all his fuckups on other people too.

So Mitt's in good company.