2012 Romney 56,950,714 popular vote 2008 McCain 59,934,814

Did anyone else see shorter lines?

They are still counting votes.
This is a projected victory.

Plus, nationwide they said turnout was down from 2008.

that's what happens when you elect the guy that finished second to McCain in 08. self explanatory and expected, but most Americans are too stupid to see that Romney is a puppet and so was McCain, it's always whoever the elites put in the race, both sides are puppets to the same handler...

work it out

Oh boo hoo. Eat it, you sore loser. Romney loses, and all of a sudden it's election fraud. Go find a corner to cry in.

I am telling you, republicans keep throwing moderates out and they keep getting denied.

The republican party needs to go back to conservative roots, if they ever want to win an election.

this is overt fraud, I have never seen so many republicans show up to vote. never in my history... this election was stolen

this

Fix was in before it ever started.

Probably, but I know alot of people that did not bother to vote this year. We have had enough of the fake system.

There are 2 types of conservatives in the republican party. The fiscal conservatives, and the social conservatives.

The fiscal conservatives have taken over the party, most republicans are not fiscal conservative, they are more moderate.

Most republicans are social conservatives. A large majority of america are social conservatives.

Romney was a moderate liberal push by the fiscal (the rich) of the party. The problem is, there was nothing socially that seperated Romney from Obama. The RNC was allowed to push a fiscal with the assumption the sheep would vote for him.

They couldnt of picked a worse canidate. Even Romney's hometown didn't vote for him.

Social conservatives will have to retake the party if there is ever another republican elected president.

The loser always says something like "I accept the decision of the American People".

At least I think McCain said it, and I remember clearly that's what Romney said, conceding while he was ahead in the popular vote!

This really only makes sense if the American People doesn't mean the voters. It's probably a ruling group, like "We the People of the United States" who implemented the Constitution in a government takeover in the late 1700's.

Do you think Obama and Romney knew that before Election night, or they were told shortly before Romney made his concession speech?

My line was a bit shorter. Still like 20 minutes...

People who voted for Ron Paul and Gary Johnson....(cough)... Obama.

I have been watching the numbers for the same reason.

How can there be record turn-outs in republican precincts and GOP loses a few million votes.

I know of three heavily republican precincts in Florida with three and 1 hour lines all day where normally its in and out in 15 minutes.

Very interesting to say the least.

and how do you know there was a record turnout of Repukes?

Democratic turn out was 10,000,000 low from 2008, however republican precincts had record turnouts.

We are discussing voting fraud and by the way there is always voting fraud.

Instead we should be discussing the entire fraud of the two party system.

reminds me of bush/gore...

Pop. expansion.

We didn't even match the numbers of votes McCain got in 2008. I would have expected that Romney getting more votes than that but instead, it's 2-3 millions less.



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Who knows for sure, that's what the precincts were saying in many stares like Ohio and Florida.

Republicans and Democrats for the Most part are worthless.

Its interesting because if you think we need other choices besides reb & dem: do they even have a chance of winning.

Romney should of received more than McCain

Obama loses 10,000,000 votes,

Romney lose 3,000,000 from McCain.

Romney said he left everything on the field. Election is a game and he knows there was major fraud.


stay tuned, however - not a chance in HELL its chsnges

I still see the same idiots posting this reh tard rhetoric.

It was not a wasted vote. The option was don't vote or vote third party. I know this complex logic is too difficult to grasp, but eventually you'll get it.

One name for you Ron Paul. That's how it happened.

I know these numbers will still fly over most of your heads, but here's a look at like half the states Obama won and the impact of 3rd party candidates:


200k in California alone. No difference.
50k in Colorado, no difference.
16k in Connecticut, no difference.
5k Delaware, no difference.
About 63k 3rd partiers in Florida. Vote difference was 46k. I doubt Romney would have gotten ~73% of those votes to propel him to win.
7k in Hawaii, no difference.
84k in Illinois, no difference.
20k in Indiana, no difference.
44k Maryland, no difference.
47k in Massachusetts, no difference.
41k in Michigan, no difference.
59k Minnesota, no difference.
19k Nevada, no difference.
34k New Jersey, no difference.
32k New MExico, no difference.
86k New York, no difference.
88k Ohio, NO DIFFERENCE.
38k Oregon, no difference.


I really don't think I need to go on. All that was assuming everyone voting 3rd party voted for Romney instead.

That is, of course, for the people that claim 3rd party candidates ruined Romney's shot at winning. # of votes are 3rd party votes in that state. Notice Ohio.