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FatalW1shes

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With Coal on it's way out they will soon wish for the days where electricity was made for a mere $16 a megawatt.

It will now go to $167 per megawatt in PA. They will see the adjustment on their electric bills in a year or so and cry.

0hio will enjoy an adjustment to $357 per megawatt.


I guess that is what they wanted. They swung towards Obama. There are a lot of Coal miners and Coal mines shutting down ........


Say goodbye to cheap power. Those fools in those states are going to get a rude awakening.


The market-clearing price for new 2015 capacity – almost all natural gas – was $136 per megawatt. That’s eight times higher than the price for 2012, which was just $16 per megawatt. In the mid-Atlantic area covering New Jersey, Delaware, Pennsylvania, and DC the new price is $167 per megawatt. For the northern Ohio territory served by FirstEnergy, the price is a shocking $357 per megawatt.


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11/07/2012 08:42 AM
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Re: Say goodbye to cheap electricity
With Coal on it's way out they will soon wish for the days where electricity was made for a mere $16 a megawatt.

It will now go to $167 per megawatt in PA. They will see the adjustment on their electric bills in a year or so and cry.

0hio will enjoy an adjustment to $357 per megawatt.


I guess that is what they wanted. They swung towards Obama. There are a lot of Coal miners and Coal mines shutting down ........


Say goodbye to cheap power. Those fools in those states are going to get a rude awakening.


The market-clearing price for new 2015 capacity – almost all natural gas – was $136 per megawatt. That’s eight times higher than the price for 2012, which was just $16 per megawatt. In the mid-Atlantic area covering New Jersey, Delaware, Pennsylvania, and DC the new price is $167 per megawatt. For the northern Ohio territory served by FirstEnergy, the price is a shocking $357 per megawatt.


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you should come down to Texas

we pay about .06c kwh for our business/residence

this state is on a different grid than the rest of the country, and the governor will fight the EPA the whole way down

it DOES matter where you live...and strength in numbers. If you don't think the policies in your state work, go to one where people who think like you are in the majority

at least then if the thing falls apart, you know its because those policies suck, and you take responsibility for it.

The other way, you feel helpless , which is a crappy way to go through life

gltu OP
FatalW1shes (OP)

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11/07/2012 08:44 AM

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Democrats are cheering, happy, and rejoicing their win.

Their side won and they got what they wanted.

Now, four years of failed policies will be catching up to them in a way they could never expect from their messiah.

Their paychecks.

Finally, after all these years they will finally see what the Republicans they hate so much were warning them about. Eventually the tab has got to be paid. Policies set forth have consequences.

When you wipe out an entire industry, coal, you lose thousands of workers and billions of dollars. You switch the entire electrical grid over to "green" energy that is not ready.

By forcing the closing of coal plants at the costs of millions of dollars, and forcing them to use fuel to create the same amount of electricity to meet the demand, you are creating a situation where there is a huge gap in prices.

Electric companies are going to pass the costs to the consumers.


I'm not sure how to calculate the new bill, but you don't have to be a math wiz to know that a bill based on $16 mw vs a bill based on $167 or $357 means it will go up.

I certainly hope people adjust for a few hundred dollars more a month in their electric bills.
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11/07/2012 08:47 AM
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Also, watch fuel prices sore in the coming weeks.
FatalW1shes (OP)

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Re: Say goodbye to cheap electricity
With Coal on it's way out they will soon wish for the days where electricity was made for a mere $16 a megawatt.

It will now go to $167 per megawatt in PA. They will see the adjustment on their electric bills in a year or so and cry.

0hio will enjoy an adjustment to $357 per megawatt.


I guess that is what they wanted. They swung towards Obama. There are a lot of Coal miners and Coal mines shutting down ........


Say goodbye to cheap power. Those fools in those states are going to get a rude awakening.


The market-clearing price for new 2015 capacity – almost all natural gas – was $136 per megawatt. That’s eight times higher than the price for 2012, which was just $16 per megawatt. In the mid-Atlantic area covering New Jersey, Delaware, Pennsylvania, and DC the new price is $167 per megawatt. For the northern Ohio territory served by FirstEnergy, the price is a shocking $357 per megawatt.


Read more: [link to www.foxnews.com]
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


you should come down to Texas

we pay about .06c kwh for our business/residence

this state is on a different grid than the rest of the country, and the governor will fight the EPA the whole way down

it DOES matter where you live...and strength in numbers. If you don't think the policies in your state work, go to one where people who think like you are in the majority

at least then if the thing falls apart, you know its because those policies suck, and you take responsibility for it.

The other way, you feel helpless , which is a crappy way to go through life

gltu OP
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Oh I'm in Fort Worth Texas. There is a train that goes by daily that is full of coal cars full of coal.

The power plant on Lake Arlington is a coal plant....
According to 2005 data from the Energy Information Administration, Texas has 20 operating coal-fired power stations, including 40 generating units, totaling 21,238 megawatts (MW) of capacity. 39 of the generating units are larger than 50MW.

[link to www.sourcewatch.org]


I have no idea how many there are today.


I do know Ohio is 88% coal powered. They are so fucking fucked I want to see the looks on their faces when they see their electric bills. Bastards turned to Obama again. They will soon pay for what they got.
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Solyndra will save us!
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Anyone that doesn't love Moms, bacon, and dogs is clearly not human.
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11/07/2012 09:08 AM

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Say goodbye to your asshole, a big black snake is on the loose
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"six coal-burning power plants in Ohio - three in or around Cleveland and one each near Toledo, Dayton and Cincinnati - are slated to close or have closed, taking hundreds of jobs and much-needed tax revenue with them. Republicans and many in the coal industry attribute the closures in large part to Environmental Protection Agency regulations mandating reduced mercury and other emissions. Jennings said the losses will resonate across a state where the Ohio Coal Association, citing unnamed studies, says there are up to 11 "spin-off" jobs tied to each of the more than 3,000 jobs in the state in the coal industry.



"The energy policies don't just affect a guy that's a coal miner," he said.


The notion that Mr. Obama has declared "war on coal," as his detractors put it, could have ramifications beyond Ohio. Anger toward the Obama administration is boiling over in coal mining areas of West Virginia like Mingo County, where some residents blame the president for mine and plant closures and lost jobs - an apparent factor in the strong showing by a convicted felon against the president in the Democratic primary early this year."


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11/07/2012 09:11 AM
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Bye bye lekky.rockon
FatalW1shes (OP)

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11/07/2012 09:15 AM

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Re: Say goodbye to cheap electricity
what's the big deal?

all you need is $250,000 and a spare football field at your house and you can go solar!

everyones doing it!

it's the way of the future!
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People in Ohio are in for a HUGE surprise.

Obama's war on coal is going to turn a lot of democrats over into republicans. Only it will be too late.


The best way to wake people up is to hit them in their checkbooks and bank accounts...or...



People in Ohio, VA, PA must be rich. Obviously they have spoken and can afford to have their bills double and triple. They can afford the millions of laid off workers joining the unemployment lines in their states due to a decimated industry.

They must love Green energy.
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11/07/2012 09:15 AM
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Americans are getting used to taking it up the backside.

So they convince themselves that they like it.

Learn to like it more.


hf
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11/07/2012 09:16 AM

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Holy shit.

Hope and change, bitches.

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Bushobama
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Since our Government sold off our power utilities the same thing has happened ... Time to start fighting back :)

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Americans are getting used to taking it up the backside.

So they convince themselves that they like it.

Learn to like it more.


hf
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You might as well get the chisel out and start making a more accessible fuck hole now coz your current ones aint big enough for Barry's big black snake!
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And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it." Amen.
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11/07/2012 09:19 AM
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Where do you guys get this 'war on coal' business
Obama has supported the coal industry and particularly oil and gas.

I think coal workers obviously know that.
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cruise
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cruise
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they'll be fucking crying about it before long
but they voted for it
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Where do you guys get this 'war on coal' business
Obama has supported the coal industry and particularly oil and gas.

I think coal workers obviously know that.
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It's best if you just go back to sleep.......
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We need to get off the oil/gas/coal tit and move to alternative energy.

We need to invest and give incentives for new technologies which will also create a new economy.

But that won't happen, cuz the oil and gas lobby is too strong.
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11/07/2012 09:21 AM
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what's the big deal?

all you need is $250,000 and a spare football field at your house and you can go solar!

everyones doing it!

it's the way of the future!
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Doesn't take that much space, I have plenty on my roof and I can sell the excess back to the grid.

Now for those city-dwelling Obama voters who live in apartments, I guess they are truly fucked, but they voted for it so they should enjoy it.
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sheepThey will soon pay for what they got.
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We need to get off the oil/gas/coal tit and move to alternative energy.

We need to invest and give incentives for new technologies which will also create a new economy.

But that won't happen, cuz the oil and gas lobby is too strong.
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They're still mining the coal here, by the way.

But they put it on boats now and float it to China. China's only too happy to burn it esp. in their eastern coastal cities, where the flyash goes up into the atmosphere and floats over to California.
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Obummer is on record saying this his policies will cause consumers to have to dig down deeper to pay for gas and electricity. He makes no bones about it.

Idiots.
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what's the big deal?

all you need is $250,000 and a spare football field at your house and you can go solar!

everyones doing it!

it's the way of the future!
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Doesn't take that much space, I have plenty on my roof and I can sell the excess back to the grid.

Now for those city-dwelling Obama voters who live in apartments, I guess they are truly fucked, but they voted for it so they should enjoy it.
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In Cally, a lot of schools have gone solar. I don't think it covers all of the electricity but a good amount of it.

This also removes our dependence on a centralized company for energy.
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With Coal on it's way out they will soon wish for the days where electricity was made for a mere $16 a megawatt.

It will now go to $167 per megawatt in PA. They will see the adjustment on their electric bills in a year or so and cry.

0hio will enjoy an adjustment to $357 per megawatt.


I guess that is what they wanted. They swung towards Obama. There are a lot of Coal miners and Coal mines shutting down ........


Say goodbye to cheap power. Those fools in those states are going to get a rude awakening.


The market-clearing price for new 2015 capacity – almost all natural gas – was $136 per megawatt. That’s eight times higher than the price for 2012, which was just $16 per megawatt. In the mid-Atlantic area covering New Jersey, Delaware, Pennsylvania, and DC the new price is $167 per megawatt. For the northern Ohio territory served by FirstEnergy, the price is a shocking $357 per megawatt.


Read more: [link to www.foxnews.com]
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


Very, very good point.

No more Playstation. No more American Idol. No more recharging your Obamaphone.

Welcome to the 3rd World, assholes.
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We need to get off the oil/gas/coal tit and move to alternative energy.

We need to invest and give incentives for new technologies which will also create a new economy.

But that won't happen, cuz the oil and gas lobby is too strong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7061022


They're still mining the coal here, by the way.

But they put it on boats now and float it to China. China's only too happy to burn it esp. in their eastern coastal cities, where the flyash goes up into the atmosphere and floats over to California.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27212869


Yeah, that is why we need alternative clean energy. Its obvious its bad for the environment.

But like I said, we won't get off the oil and gas and coal industry tit.
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What OP says will happen, it already happened in my province over 10 years ago when we elected our liberal premier

he invested heavily on solar and green energy the result was higher gas, and higher electricity costs


Green technology is not yet ready I dont' know if it will ever be

at the pace we consume energy, wind and solar is not a viable option
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Where do you guys get this 'war on coal' business
Obama has supported the coal industry and particularly oil and gas.

I think coal workers obviously know that.
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cruise

Thanks for the laugh, asshole.
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Coal fired plants can be easilly converted to NG which produces less than half the carbon as coal and is cheaper to operate and easier to maintain. NG also produces no ash or mercury. The U.S. has trillions of C.F. Of Ng, enough to last hundreds of years. NG is also abundant throughout the world. Coal still has high value and can produce uncountable other products without the carbon dioxide.

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