Say goodbye to cheap electricity

you should come down to Texas

we pay about .06c kwh for our business/residence

this state is on a different grid than the rest of the country, and the governor will fight the EPA the whole way down

it DOES matter where you live...and strength in numbers. If you don't think the policies in your state work, go to one where people who think like you are in the majority

at least then if the thing falls apart, you know its because those policies suck, and you take responsibility for it.

The other way, you feel helpless , which is a crappy way to go through life

gltu OP

Democrats are cheering, happy, and rejoicing their win.

Their side won and they got what they wanted.

Now, four years of failed policies will be catching up to them in a way they could never expect from their messiah.

Their paychecks.

Finally, after all these years they will finally see what the Republicans they hate so much were warning them about. Eventually the tab has got to be paid. Policies set forth have consequences.

When you wipe out an entire industry, coal, you lose thousands of workers and billions of dollars. You switch the entire electrical grid over to "green" energy that is not ready.

By forcing the closing of coal plants at the costs of millions of dollars, and forcing them to use fuel to create the same amount of electricity to meet the demand, you are creating a situation where there is a huge gap in prices.

Electric companies are going to pass the costs to the consumers.


I'm not sure how to calculate the new bill, but you don't have to be a math wiz to know that a bill based on $16 mw vs a bill based on $167 or $357 means it will go up.

I certainly hope people adjust for a few hundred dollars more a month in their electric bills.

Also, watch fuel prices sore in the coming weeks.

Oh I'm in Fort Worth Texas. There is a train that goes by daily that is full of coal cars full of coal.

The power plant on Lake Arlington is a coal plant....
According to 2005 data from the Energy Information Administration, Texas has 20 operating coal-fired power stations, including 40 generating units, totaling 21,238 megawatts (MW) of capacity. 39 of the generating units are larger than 50MW.

[link to www.sourcewatch.org]


I have no idea how many there are today.


I do know Ohio is 88% coal powered. They are so fucking fucked I want to see the looks on their faces when they see their electric bills. Bastards turned to Obama again. They will soon pay for what they got.

Solyndra will save us!

Say goodbye to your asshole, a big black snake is on the loose

"six coal-burning power plants in Ohio - three in or around Cleveland and one each near Toledo, Dayton and Cincinnati - are slated to close or have closed, taking hundreds of jobs and much-needed tax revenue with them. Republicans and many in the coal industry attribute the closures in large part to Environmental Protection Agency regulations mandating reduced mercury and other emissions. Jennings said the losses will resonate across a state where the Ohio Coal Association, citing unnamed studies, says there are up to 11 "spin-off" jobs tied to each of the more than 3,000 jobs in the state in the coal industry.



"The energy policies don't just affect a guy that's a coal miner," he said.


The notion that Mr. Obama has declared "war on coal," as his detractors put it, could have ramifications beyond Ohio. Anger toward the Obama administration is boiling over in coal mining areas of West Virginia like Mingo County, where some residents blame the president for mine and plant closures and lost jobs - an apparent factor in the strong showing by a convicted felon against the president in the Democratic primary early this year."

[link to www.cbsnews.com]

Bye bye lekky.

People in Ohio are in for a HUGE surprise.

Obama's war on coal is going to turn a lot of democrats over into republicans. Only it will be too late.


The best way to wake people up is to hit them in their checkbooks and bank accounts...or...



People in Ohio, VA, PA must be rich. Obviously they have spoken and can afford to have their bills double and triple. They can afford the millions of laid off workers joining the unemployment lines in their states due to a decimated industry.

They must love Green energy.

Americans are getting used to taking it up the backside.

So they convince themselves that they like it.

Learn to like it more.

Holy shit.

Hope and change, bitches.

Last Edited by Debauchery on 11/07/2012 09:16 AM

Since our Government sold off our power utilities the same thing has happened ... Time to start fighting back :)

Last Edited by Neo81xxx on 11/07/2012 09:17 AM

You might as well get the chisel out and start making a more accessible fuck hole now coz your current ones aint big enough for Barry's big black snake!

Where do you guys get this 'war on coal' business
Obama has supported the coal industry and particularly oil and gas.

I think coal workers obviously know that.

they'll be fucking crying about it before long
but they voted for it

It's best if you just go back to sleep.......

We need to get off the oil/gas/coal tit and move to alternative energy.

We need to invest and give incentives for new technologies which will also create a new economy.

But that won't happen, cuz the oil and gas lobby is too strong.

Doesn't take that much space, I have plenty on my roof and I can sell the excess back to the grid.

Now for those city-dwelling Obama voters who live in apartments, I guess they are truly fucked, but they voted for it so they should enjoy it.

They will soon pay for what they got.

They're still mining the coal here, by the way.

But they put it on boats now and float it to China. China's only too happy to burn it esp. in their eastern coastal cities, where the flyash goes up into the atmosphere and floats over to California.

In Cally, a lot of schools have gone solar. I don't think it covers all of the electricity but a good amount of it.

This also removes our dependence on a centralized company for energy.

Very, very good point.

No more Playstation. No more American Idol. No more recharging your Obamaphone.

Welcome to the 3rd World, assholes.

Yeah, that is why we need alternative clean energy. Its obvious its bad for the environment.

But like I said, we won't get off the oil and gas and coal industry tit.

What OP says will happen, it already happened in my province over 10 years ago when we elected our liberal premier

he invested heavily on solar and green energy the result was higher gas, and higher electricity costs


Green technology is not yet ready I dont' know if it will ever be

at the pace we consume energy, wind and solar is not a viable option

Thanks for the laugh, asshole.

Coal fired plants can be easilly converted to NG which produces less than half the carbon as coal and is cheaper to operate and easier to maintain. NG also produces no ash or mercury. The U.S. has trillions of C.F. Of Ng, enough to last hundreds of years. NG is also abundant throughout the world. Coal still has high value and can produce uncountable other products without the carbon dioxide.