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Israel got their answer....

 
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The time has come for all good Zionists to go home and defend the Motherland!

Israel needs you now!
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No! We can't afford to let Israel get involved in a major war! The United States MUST keep Israel out of the war. It is America's responsibility to the world to make sure Iran doesn't get nuclear weapons.
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Eh, no they don't. They only believe him to be a Prophet.
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Do I have to quote from Quaran? WTF Do your homework on your own.
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You obviously don't know what you are talking about. Yes, please quote the Qur'an.
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I despise arrogant ignoramuses like you are one, OP Anyway, e.g.

4:171 Surat An-Nisā'


And bye.
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You mad? Well I heard that many Muslims just believe him to be a Prophet like Mohammad. Anyway, they are still trespassing on Judahs inheritance.
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They are alone. I wonder how long till they strike. dynamite
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It could be any time now. They can't wait another four years for a Republican to get elected. They're going to have to launch the first strike to bring America into the war with Iran. There's no other way now.
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+1 but I can't see Obama giving military support.
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Eh, no they don't. They only believe him to be a Prophet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27218222


Do I have to quote from Quaran? WTF Do your homework on your own.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


You obviously don't know what you are talking about. Yes, please quote the Qur'an.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27218222


I despise arrogant ignoramuses like you are one, OP Anyway, e.g.

4:171 Surat An-Nisā'


And bye.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


They also don't believe he was crucified, therefore they can't believe that he died for the sins of the World.
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+1 but I can't see Obama giving military support.
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He will. By treaty, he has no choice and if he doesn't support Israel once the war starts, Congress will overrule Obama and take care of it themselves. Remember the 29 unanimous standing ovations?

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Thread: Why did Congress give Netanyahu so many standing ovations?
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+1 but I can't see Obama giving military support.
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He will. By treaty, he has no choice and if he doesn't support Israel once the war starts, Congress will overrule Obama and take care of it themselves. Remember the 29 unanimous standing ovations?

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Thread: Why did Congress give Netanyahu so many standing ovations?
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He has already overruled Congress on a few things I heard.
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+1 but I can't see Obama giving military support.
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He will. By treaty, he has no choice and if he doesn't support Israel once the war starts, Congress will overrule Obama and take care of it themselves. Remember the 29 unanimous standing ovations?

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Thread: Why did Congress give Netanyahu so many standing ovations?
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He has already overruled Congress on a few things I heard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27218222


If he is the Beast of Revelation, do you think he will care what they say or want? He will have them arrested or worse.
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+1 but I can't see Obama giving military support.
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He will. By treaty, he has no choice and if he doesn't support Israel once the war starts, Congress will overrule Obama and take care of it themselves. Remember the 29 unanimous standing ovations?

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Thread: Why did Congress give Netanyahu so many standing ovations?
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He has already overruled Congress on a few things I heard.
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-- Some charismatic world leader will emerge and sign a historic peace treaty between Israel and many other nations, which allows them to build their Temple in exchange for giving up nuclear capability
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I'm going to recommend that you not hold your breath on this. . .

hf
Please pray for me: I used to be a Good Christian™, until I got a hold of some kind of fruity "love" bullshit and decided I need to be less harsh on people.
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He has already overruled Congress on a few things I heard.
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He can't overrule Congress on supporting Israel. America fully supports Israel and Congress has more than enough votes to override Obama when it comes to supporting Israel.
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They are on their own. I wonder how long till they strike. dynamite
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Fixed.
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Well that is not true. They have God on their side so they don't need any other countries help. Soon, the nations will invade Jerusalem and the World will know true chaos and carnage. The Great Tribulation is about to materialize.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27218222


How does "Israel" have God on its side? What have they done for Him lately? Have you any idea how easy it is to be expelled from biblical Israel and therefore disqualified from all applicable promises?

[link to www.blueletterbible.org]

Your precious Israel would do well to repent of their misdeeds and submit to their rightful King and stop playing dress-up to impress the Laodicean zombies.

God's requirements are spelled out plainly in the Sermon on the Mount. Wake me when they seem to be giving any thought towards possibly meeting any of those parameters which Jesus gave them right to their faces.
Please pray for me: I used to be a Good Christian™, until I got a hold of some kind of fruity "love" bullshit and decided I need to be less harsh on people.
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A possible scenario:

-- Whether they actually start it or are only blamed for it, Israel will take decisive action in the interest of self-preservation, esp. knowing O's hot-mic comment about "more flexibility" to the Russians.

-- The Russians will be dragged into the Muslim backlash, leading a coalition of armies to surround Israel.

-- This will not go well for the coalition.

-- Some charismatic world leader will emerge and sign a historic peace treaty between Israel and many other nations, which allows them to build their Temple in exchange for giving up nuclear capability.

-- Israel will let down its guard.

-- The peace treaty is short-lived.

Somewhere in all that, the city of Damascus will be totally devastated overnight.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


You know your stuff. thumbs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27218222


Very possible.

In fact it may be that the temple is already reconstructed off site...like the first two. So, "when the time is right" per the Most High's timetable, it can be reassembled quickly - perhaps more of an altar and not a full-blown temple.

Either way, I think your scenario is plausible.

Praise God
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israel nutt-up and do your own dirty work........Just a warning you'll walk over to Iran but you'll limp back!
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israel nutt-up and do your own dirty work........Just a warning you'll walk over to Iran but you'll limp back!
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Which is why America must make sure Israel is protected and kept out of the war.
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How does "Israel" have God on its side? What have they done for Him lately? Have you any idea how easy it is to be expelled from biblical Israel and therefore disqualified from all applicable promises?

[link to www.blueletterbible.org]

Your precious Israel would do well to repent of their misdeeds and submit to their rightful King and stop playing dress-up to impress the Laodicean zombies.

God's requirements are spelled out plainly in the Sermon on the Mount. Wake me when they seem to be giving any thought towards possibly meeting any of those parameters which Jesus gave them right to their faces.
 Quoting: MuadDib987 (nli)


The history of Israel is a history of ups and downs, faithfulness and rebellion, restoration and exile. Yet God never disowned them, nor reneged on his promise to Abraham. God even said that he didn't choose Israel because they had some good quality or were numerous, but the exact opposite, so that they would know it is God and not themselves who blesses them and makes them prosper. So their being the chosen people of God has nothing to do with how righteous they are or what they've done for him. Yet 7 years of punishment remains for them, a time Jesus said would be the worst ever experienced in human history.

God has not abandoned Israel nor disqualified them from "all applicable promises". They are indeed God's "precious Israel", a fact you would do well to respect.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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israel nutt-up and do your own dirty work........Just a warning you'll walk over to Iran but you'll limp back!
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Which is why America must make sure Israel is protected and kept out of the war.
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Death to Israel.
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israel nutt-up and do your own dirty work........Just a warning you'll walk over to Iran but you'll limp back!
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Which is why America must make sure Israel is protected and kept out of the war.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19976094


Death to Israel.
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Not a wise policy. If Israel falls, America falls with it.
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How does "Israel" have God on its side? What have they done for Him lately? Have you any idea how easy it is to be expelled from biblical Israel and therefore disqualified from all applicable promises?

[link to www.blueletterbible.org]

Your precious Israel would do well to repent of their misdeeds and submit to their rightful King and stop playing dress-up to impress the Laodicean zombies.

God's requirements are spelled out plainly in the Sermon on the Mount. Wake me when they seem to be giving any thought towards possibly meeting any of those parameters which Jesus gave them right to their faces.
 Quoting: MuadDib987 (nli)


The history of Israel is a history of ups and downs, faithfulness and rebellion, restoration and exile. Yet God never disowned them, nor reneged on his promise to Abraham. God even said that he didn't choose Israel because they had some good quality or were numerous, but the exact opposite, so that they would know it is God and not themselves who blesses them and makes them prosper. So their being the chosen people of God has nothing to do with how righteous they are or what they've done for him. Yet 7 years of punishment remains for them, a time Jesus said would be the worst ever experienced in human history.

God has not abandoned Israel nor disqualified them from "all applicable promises". They are indeed God's "precious Israel", a fact you would do well to respect.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


God's covenant with Abraham is fulfilled In Christ - see Galatians 3. The covenant with Moses, however, was conditional, and Israel's failure to live up to their end of the bargain prompted God to *divorce* them due to constant harlotry as they kept going elsewhere for provision.

You are aware that reliance on horses & chariots did get them into hot water a time or 2 back in the old days, yes? Do you suppose they'll somehow get a free pass on that this time?

Didn't Jesus point out the importance of how we treat our neighbor and especially "the least of these"? Do you suppose He's proud of His favorite people bulldozing villages (where people have been living for centuries) and claiming "God gave them to us"?
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He has already overruled Congress on a few things I heard.
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He can't overrule Congress on supporting Israel. America fully supports Israel and Congress has more than enough votes to override Obama when it comes to supporting Israel.
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I bet they said the same things in regard to the things he did overrule.
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They are on their own. I wonder how long till they strike. dynamite
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Fixed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27218222


Well that is not true. They have God on their side so they don't need any other countries help. Soon, the nations will invade Jerusalem and the World will know true chaos and carnage. The Great Tribulation is about to materialize.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27218222


How does "Israel" have God on its side? What have they done for Him lately? Have you any idea how easy it is to be expelled from biblical Israel and therefore disqualified from all applicable promises?

[link to www.blueletterbible.org]

Your precious Israel would do well to repent of their misdeeds and submit to their rightful King and stop playing dress-up to impress the Laodicean zombies.

God's requirements are spelled out plainly in the Sermon on the Mount. Wake me when they seem to be giving any thought towards possibly meeting any of those parameters which Jesus gave them right to their faces.
 Quoting: MuadDib987 (nli)


A remnant will be saved.

Revelation 7
1 After these things I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, on the sea, or on any tree. 2 Then I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God. And he cried with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was granted to harm the earth and the sea, 3 saying, "Do not harm the earth, the sea, or the trees till we have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads." 4 And I heard the number of those who were sealed. One hundred and forty-four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel were sealed: 5 of the tribe of Judah twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Reuben twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Gad twelve thousand were sealed; 6 of the tribe of Asher twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Naphtali twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Manasseh twelve thousand were sealed; 7 of the tribe of Simeon twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Levi twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Issachar twelve thousand were sealed; 8 of the tribe of Zebulun twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Joseph twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Benjamin twelve thousand were sealed. 9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, 10 and crying out with a loud voice, saying, "Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!" 11 All the angels stood around the throne and the elders and the four living creatures, and fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, 12 saying: "Amen! Blessing and glory and wisdom, Thanksgiving and honor and power and might, Be to our God forever and ever. Amen."
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A possible scenario:

-- Whether they actually start it or are only blamed for it, Israel will take decisive action in the interest of self-preservation, esp. knowing O's hot-mic comment about "more flexibility" to the Russians.

-- The Russians will be dragged into the Muslim backlash, leading a coalition of armies to surround Israel.

-- This will not go well for the coalition.

-- Some charismatic world leader will emerge and sign a historic peace treaty between Israel and many other nations, which allows them to build their Temple in exchange for giving up nuclear capability.

-- Israel will let down its guard.

-- The peace treaty is short-lived.

Somewhere in all that, the city of Damascus will be totally devastated overnight.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


You know your stuff. thumbs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27218222


Very possible.

In fact it may be that the temple is already reconstructed off site...like the first two. So, "when the time is right" per the Most High's timetable, it can be reassembled quickly - perhaps more of an altar and not a full-blown temple.

Either way, I think your scenario is plausible.

Praise God
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Amen!

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At the front door of EVERY Israeli air base is a picture of Auschwitz. A reporter asked the colonel of the base why it was there and his answer was this...

In WWII, US bomber pilots begged the government to bomb the tracks to Auschwitz to stop the influx of Jews to the camp.

The government responded with an astounding NO. Because some of our allies were Jew haters and if we stopped the camps they might leave the allies and we'd lose the war.

So the picture is to remind Israel that no matter what, they are alone.

You call it hate, I call it self preservation. Muslims have NO problems using nukes unprovoked. Israel have well over 100 nukes and has never considered using them.

So who is more evil?
 Quoting: John Holmes 25015863


When was the last time a Muslim nation used a nuke? Matter of fact, when was the last time any nation other than one with "jewish" hand all over it, used a nuke.

Don't worry, I'll wait.
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A remnant will be saved.

Revelation 7
1 After these things I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, on the sea, or on any tree. 2 Then I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God. And he cried with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was granted to harm the earth and the sea, 3 saying, "Do not harm the earth, the sea, or the trees till we have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads." 4 And I heard the number of those who were sealed. One hundred and forty-four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel were sealed: 5 of the tribe of Judah twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Reuben twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Gad twelve thousand were sealed; 6 of the tribe of Asher twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Naphtali twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Manasseh twelve thousand were sealed; 7 of the tribe of Simeon twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Levi twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Issachar twelve thousand were sealed; 8 of the tribe of Zebulun twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Joseph twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Benjamin twelve thousand were sealed. 9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, 10 and crying out with a loud voice, saying, "Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!" 11 All the angels stood around the throne and the elders and the four living creatures, and fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, 12 saying: "Amen! Blessing and glory and wisdom, Thanksgiving and honor and power and might, Be to our God forever and ever. Amen."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27218222


Awesome. The catch, however, is that with God it's Fruit of the Spirit or bust. There's no free ride. This is a major oversight by Christianity Inc, and it explains why we're such cheerleaders for Zionist corruption.
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God's covenant with Abraham is fulfilled In Christ - see Galatians 3. The covenant with Moses, however, was conditional, and Israel's failure to live up to their end of the bargain prompted God to *divorce* them due to constant harlotry as they kept going elsewhere for provision.

You are aware that reliance on horses & chariots did get them into hot water a time or 2 back in the old days, yes? Do you suppose they'll somehow get a free pass on that this time?

Didn't Jesus point out the importance of how we treat our neighbor and especially "the least of these"? Do you suppose He's proud of His favorite people bulldozing villages (where people have been living for centuries) and claiming "God gave them to us"?
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Then the apostle Paul was totally ignorant when he said,
Then am I saying that God rejected his people? Absolutely not! I too am an Israelite, a descendent of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew; ridiculous! Have you not grasped what Elijah says in the writing as he pleads with God against Israel? "Master, they killed your prophets, they tore down your altars; I am the only one left, and now they are after me too!" But what was he told? "I have reserved for myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal." And so it is in the current age; there has come to be a small number remaining who were chosen by God's favor. Now if it is by favor then it couldn't be by actions; conversely, if it is by actions then it couldn't be by favor.
 Quoting: Rom. 11,1-6

The rest of that chapter goes on to emphasize the point that in spite of all her failures, Israel as a nation is not abandoned by God. See also:
Remember your servants Abraham, Isaac and Israel, to whom you swore by your own self: ‘I will make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and I will give your descendants all this land I promised them, and it will be their inheritance forever.’”
 Quoting: Exodus 32:13

Nothing in this promise is conditional, and nothing in the curses God warned the nation about later was ever permanent for the entirety of the nation; there was always a remnant.

I already stated that severe judgment is due to the nation of Israel; what part of that constitutes a "free pass"?
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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The Meek will inherit the earth, yes? I don't exactly picture the Meek looking to blast their enemies or beg other nations to commit to war.
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A remnant will be saved.

Revelation 7
1 After these things I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, on the sea, or on any tree. 2 Then I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God. And he cried with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was granted to harm the earth and the sea, 3 saying, "Do not harm the earth, the sea, or the trees till we have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads." 4 And I heard the number of those who were sealed. One hundred and forty-four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel were sealed: 5 of the tribe of Judah twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Reuben twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Gad twelve thousand were sealed; 6 of the tribe of Asher twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Naphtali twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Manasseh twelve thousand were sealed; 7 of the tribe of Simeon twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Levi twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Issachar twelve thousand were sealed; 8 of the tribe of Zebulun twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Joseph twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Benjamin twelve thousand were sealed. 9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, 10 and crying out with a loud voice, saying, "Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!" 11 All the angels stood around the throne and the elders and the four living creatures, and fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, 12 saying: "Amen! Blessing and glory and wisdom, Thanksgiving and honor and power and might, Be to our God forever and ever. Amen."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27218222


Awesome. The catch, however, is that with God it's Fruit of the Spirit or bust. There's no free ride. This is a major oversight by Christianity Inc, and it explains why we're such cheerleaders for Zionist corruption.
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Yes, obedience is required.
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At the front door of EVERY Israeli air base is a picture of Auschwitz. A reporter asked the colonel of the base why it was there and his answer was this...

In WWII, US bomber pilots begged the government to bomb the tracks to Auschwitz to stop the influx of Jews to the camp.

The government responded with an astounding NO. Because some of our allies were Jew haters and if we stopped the camps they might leave the allies and we'd lose the war.

So the picture is to remind Israel that no matter what, they are alone.

You call it hate, I call it self preservation. Muslims have NO problems using nukes unprovoked. Israel have well over 100 nukes and has never considered using them.

So who is more evil?
 Quoting: John Holmes 25015863


The United States remains the only Nation to use Nuclear weapons.
Exactly which nation are you basing your statement; " Muslims have NO problems using nukes unprovoked" on?
peace
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The Meek will inherit the earth, yes? I don't exactly picture the Meek looking to blast their enemies or beg other nations to commit to war.
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Not all wars are evil and illegal, some are justified and God actively encouraged the ancient Israelites to war with their enemy's. Self-preservation is fully justified.
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Not all wars are evil and illegal, some are justified and God actively encouraged the ancient Israelites to war with their enemy's. Self-preservation is fully justified.
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So maybe when Jesus talked about turning the other cheek or blessing your enemies, He just meant "unless it's serious, in which case a pre-emptive strike is definitely the way to go"?

Self-preservation = "If you save your life, you'll lose it".
This won't end well for ambitious warmongers.

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