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Beauty guru confesses on Youtube and names father who allegedly raped, tortured her from age 4 - 13, true or false?

 
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she seems like a mentally ill attention whore

then again, i could be just your average internet asshole
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WTF are you talking about?

Just by posting the video you are posting the mans personal information.

It doesn't take a genius to look up and cross reference names.

Hypocrite.
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Not being a hypocrite, I believe that's why the first page was taken down, because the information was posted on GLP. I don't know for certain, but it was pulled.
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It's funny you people look at a disheveled crying girl and defend her with only knowing her side of the story. It could have happened but it might not have. Maybe her dad had a problem with her flaunting herself about like a stupid skank on yt and she wants to get back at him. There are 2 sides to every story, and i'll reserve judgement until it's all out there. Who gives a shit anyway? Women get raped all the fucking time, it doesn't make it any less worse but why pay attention to this one bitch? Because she's pretty and makes videos on yt? Grow up America.
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In the case of having sex with a minor,
there are NOT two sides of the story
except that one is VERY wrong and criminal.
No excuses.
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Really sad that, there are some sick bastards in this world. My opinion (for what its worth) is shes telling the truth. Why would she lie?

For a miriad of reasons, Children hardly have time to be children these days, they are sexualised from a real early age even over here in Blighty (Thoe, most of the tv shows/pop bands are directed from the USA) Its such a worry. They are suppossed to be the best days of your life without a care in the world
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The white house is pushing adult child sex as normal, and he was just re-elected.
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I believe she is telling the truth. Most children who try to tell the truth about being molested are shamed into being liars so learn to keep their mouth shut and deal with it. Very few women I've met in my life have ever escaped been molested or sexually assaulted at some point in their life. Just because you don't hear about how often it happens, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I admire her for calling her monster out...and that the shame he caused her will now haunt him.
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why not hypnotized her , so she says everything true or false
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Good for her, the best protection she could have is by coming forward and exposing him to the world.

I hope she found this expulsion of bottled up secrets and anger helps in her healing process.
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I believe she is telling the truth. Most children who try to tell the truth about being molested are shamed into being liars so learn to keep their mouth shut and deal with it. Very few women I've met in my life have ever escaped been molested or sexually assaulted at some point in their life. Just because you don't hear about how often it happens, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I admire her for calling her monster out...and that the shame he caused her will now haunt him.
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Even if "most children who try to tell the truth" are not believed, does not mean all accusations are true. Seriously, stop being a sheeple for the rape card.
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why not hypnotized her , so she says everything true or false
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hypnotism, lie detector tests, all shams
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I believe she is telling the truth. Most children who try to tell the truth about being molested are shamed into being liars so learn to keep their mouth shut and deal with it. Very few women I've met in my life have ever escaped been molested or sexually assaulted at some point in their life. Just because you don't hear about how often it happens, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I admire her for calling her monster out...and that the shame he caused her will now haunt him.
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Even if "most children who try to tell the truth" are not believed, does not mean all accusations are true. Seriously, stop being a sheeple for the rape card.
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Well from the pics she posted, her mother certainly took a beating at the hands of this man, there are court docs to go with them.

You are fooling yourself if you think the man is totally innocent.
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Good for her, the best protection she could have is by coming forward and exposing him to the world.

I hope she found this expulsion of bottled up secrets and anger helps in her healing process.
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And if this isn't true? What then should be done for false accusations and the life she ruined by lying? Why is it good to go for the internet mob instead of real justice? Why not go to a counselor instead of attention grabbing youtube which will make her $$$?
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Better be careful, Laura.

I was reading this same exact story on three separate blogs and apparently the guy she's talking about is coming after the posters for disseminating his name all over the internet.

Don't get yourself in legal trouble over this, not worth it.
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I believe she is telling the truth. Most children who try to tell the truth about being molested are shamed into being liars so learn to keep their mouth shut and deal with it. Very few women I've met in my life have ever escaped been molested or sexually assaulted at some point in their life. Just because you don't hear about how often it happens, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I admire her for calling her monster out...and that the shame he caused her will now haunt him.
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Even if "most children who try to tell the truth" are not believed, does not mean all accusations are true. Seriously, stop being a sheeple for the rape card.
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Well from the pics she posted, her mother certainly took a beating at the hands of this man, there are court docs to go with them.

You are fooling yourself if you think the man is totally innocent.
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The pics don't prove anything, either. First, they could also be staged or photoshopped. Let someone investigate that. Second, even if her mother is in them and beat up, it doesn't show WHO DID IT. They could be from being beaten by by someone else. So that doesn't prove her father did anything, even if the pictures are real.

You are a fool to think someone is guilty if accused of a crime... just because they are accused
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WTF are you talking about?

Just by posting the video you are posting the mans personal information.

It doesn't take a genius to look up and cross reference names.

Hypocrite.
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Not being a hypocrite, I believe that's why the first page was taken down, because the information was posted on GLP. I don't know for certain, but it was pulled.
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She says the guys first and lasr name in the video and even gives the real name and aliases of his wife.

YOU'RE disseminating the same info you're asking others not to post.
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Better be careful, Laura.

I was reading this same exact story on three separate blogs and apparently the guy she's talking about is coming after the posters for disseminating his name all over the internet.

Don't get yourself in legal trouble over this, not worth it.
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Laura hasn't posted names here, and I think the guy, especially if he is innocent, is right to go after people doing that. He's gotten threats already. Without proof he did anything.
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Good for her, the best protection she could have is by coming forward and exposing him to the world.

I hope she found this expulsion of bottled up secrets and anger helps in her healing process.
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And if this isn't true? What then should be done for false accusations and the life she ruined by lying? Why is it good to go for the internet mob instead of real justice? Why not go to a counselor instead of attention grabbing youtube which will make her $$$?
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You are not a woman are you? Never worked with abused women either, I'm going to assume.

Fear is instilled in abused women, it takes a very strong girl to turn her father in for rape while the attacks are still ongoing. Most abusers put the fear of God into their victims with threats of more violence and even death.

I't how they control their victims.

It's only once they are able to escape the situation and put some perspective on it that they can see that the way they were being treated is so very wrong.
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Why would she lie?
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Women lie all the time.
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In Sweden we had a man sit in jail for 8 years because some girl was brainwashed by a pschologist that her dad was part of this satanist cult and they had a rapecult etc.

Finally the evidence was overwhelming this was not the case.

But this case? I don't know, she looks kinda destroyed, from what dunno. Maybe drugs destroyed here, these models are into some heavy shit to keep their weight.
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Better be careful, Laura.

I was reading this same exact story on three separate blogs and apparently the guy she's talking about is coming after the posters for disseminating his name all over the internet.

Don't get yourself in legal trouble over this, not worth it.
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Laura hasn't posted names here, and I think the guy, especially if he is innocent, is right to go after people doing that. He's gotten threats already. Without proof he did anything.
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Yes, she only states names. Perhaps I'll just edit it so that people can read the links to the stories themselves...
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Good for her, the best protection she could have is by coming forward and exposing him to the world.

I hope she found this expulsion of bottled up secrets and anger helps in her healing process.
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And if this isn't true? What then should be done for false accusations and the life she ruined by lying? Why is it good to go for the internet mob instead of real justice? Why not go to a counselor instead of attention grabbing youtube which will make her $$$?
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You are not a woman are you? Never worked with abused women either, I'm going to assume.

Fear is instilled in abused women, it takes a very strong girl to turn her father in for rape while the attacks are still ongoing. Most abusers put the fear of God into their victims with threats of more violence and even death.

I't how they control their victims.

It's only once they are able to escape the situation and put some perspective on it that they can see that the way they were being treated is so very wrong.
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Oh yeah, a woman should just be believed for any false accusation they make. You aren't a man and haven't worked with men who have had false accusations against them ruin their life, have you? And they can't defend themselves, people like you attack them, guilty or not.
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Better be careful, Laura.

I was reading this same exact story on three separate blogs and apparently the guy she's talking about is coming after the posters for disseminating his name all over the internet.

Don't get yourself in legal trouble over this, not worth it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27305279


Laura hasn't posted names here, and I think the guy, especially if he is innocent, is right to go after people doing that. He's gotten threats already. Without proof he did anything.
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Are you dumb?

She says the guys first and last name IN THE VIDEO...by posting the video, she is posting the guys personal information.
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Why would she lie?
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Women lie all the time.
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In Sweden we had a man sit in jail for 8 years because some girl was brainwashed by a pschologist that her dad was part of this satanist cult and they had a rapecult etc.

Finally the evidence was overwhelming this was not the case.

But this case? I don't know, she looks kinda destroyed, from what dunno. Maybe drugs destroyed here, these models are into some heavy shit to keep their weight.
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She is an actress. She an IMDB page. She looks like she is acting out a typical scene, similar to the opening "video" in a Magnum PI episode (where the woman looked like she killed herself on video). It is quite similar a scene. Acting and all does it. But if you look at her normal stuff, she doesn't seem so destroyed. It seems like an act -- again if she had real problems, the solution isn't a youtube video for attention, but a psychologist, the police, etc.
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Re: Beauty guru confesses on Youtube and names father who allegedly raped, tortured her from age 4 - 13, true or false?
WTF are you talking about?

Just by posting the video you are posting the mans personal information.

It doesn't take a genius to look up and cross reference names.

Hypocrite.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27305279


Not being a hypocrite, I believe that's why the first page was taken down, because the information was posted on GLP. I don't know for certain, but it was pulled.
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She says the guys first and lasr name in the video and even gives the real name and aliases of his wife.

YOU'RE disseminating the same info you're asking others not to post.
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First and last names are merely that, but I'll edit it either way so that people can go to Huffington Post. The issue however is posting the personal information of THAT specific person or people, again which is why I think it was taken down. It wasn't the mention of the name but the name and then contact information, location, etc.
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Better be careful, Laura.

I was reading this same exact story on three separate blogs and apparently the guy she's talking about is coming after the posters for disseminating his name all over the internet.

Don't get yourself in legal trouble over this, not worth it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27305279


Laura hasn't posted names here, and I think the guy, especially if he is innocent, is right to go after people doing that. He's gotten threats already. Without proof he did anything.
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Are you dumb?

She says the guys first and last name IN THE VIDEO...by posting the video, she is posting the guys personal information.
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Many people with the first and last name like that. Posting the video which is discussed all over the internet is not going to get anyone in trouble.
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Better be careful, Laura.

I was reading this same exact story on three separate blogs and apparently the guy she's talking about is coming after the posters for disseminating his name all over the internet.

Don't get yourself in legal trouble over this, not worth it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27305279


Laura hasn't posted names here, and I think the guy, especially if he is innocent, is right to go after people doing that. He's gotten threats already. Without proof he did anything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27300636


Are you dumb?

She says the guys first and last name IN THE VIDEO...by posting the video, she is posting the guys personal information.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27305279


Many people with the first and last name like that. Posting the video which is discussed all over the internet is not going to get anyone in trouble.
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If you actually tried and looked it up you would realize that there is actually only ONE name that matches his wifes alias and real name. Came up INSTANTLY when I Googled it.

Idiot.
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Better be careful, Laura.

I was reading this same exact story on three separate blogs and apparently the guy she's talking about is coming after the posters for disseminating his name all over the internet.

Don't get yourself in legal trouble over this, not worth it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27305279


Laura hasn't posted names here, and I think the guy, especially if he is innocent, is right to go after people doing that. He's gotten threats already. Without proof he did anything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27300636


Are you dumb?

She says the guys first and last name IN THE VIDEO...by posting the video, she is posting the guys personal information.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27305279


Many people with the first and last name like that. Posting the video which is discussed all over the internet is not going to get anyone in trouble.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27300636


Exactly, a first and last name is one thing, but when it's tied to a first name, last name, and people then posting address and contact info of a specific individual in a specific location that indicates that it's THAT person, it can become an issue. Either way, I edited it so that people can go to Huffington Post to read and see the video, that way there's no worry of anything posted being misconstrued.
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Good for her, the best protection she could have is by coming forward and exposing him to the world.

I hope she found this expulsion of bottled up secrets and anger helps in her healing process.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775


And if this isn't true? What then should be done for false accusations and the life she ruined by lying? Why is it good to go for the internet mob instead of real justice? Why not go to a counselor instead of attention grabbing youtube which will make her $$$?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27300636


You are not a woman are you? Never worked with abused women either, I'm going to assume.

Fear is instilled in abused women, it takes a very strong girl to turn her father in for rape while the attacks are still ongoing. Most abusers put the fear of God into their victims with threats of more violence and even death.

I't how they control their victims.

It's only once they are able to escape the situation and put some perspective on it that they can see that the way they were being treated is so very wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775


Oh yeah, a woman should just be believed for any false accusation they make. You aren't a man and haven't worked with men who have had false accusations against them ruin their life, have you? And they can't defend themselves, people like you attack them, guilty or not.
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Well from my own personal experience.

Spent 7 years in an abusive marriage.
When he picked up my young son and threw him against the wall during one of his tirades.

Long story short, I plotted to get out.

He lied on the witness stand in court, but the judge saw right through him.
I was granted an immediate divorce with a lifetime restraining order protecting myself and my kids.

His family called me all kinds of names, spread rumours about me, ruined my reputation.


I survived.

Years later, I get a knock on the door from the police, they are investigating my ex for making snuff films and want to know what I knew. All this 20 years after the divorce.

Took a long time, but I was vindicated.

So do I believe her, yes. The world can be a cruel and ugly place.
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And if this isn't true? What then should be done for false accusations and the life she ruined by lying? Why is it good to go for the internet mob instead of real justice? Why not go to a counselor instead of attention grabbing youtube which will make her $$$?
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You are not a woman are you? Never worked with abused women either, I'm going to assume.

Fear is instilled in abused women, it takes a very strong girl to turn her father in for rape while the attacks are still ongoing. Most abusers put the fear of God into their victims with threats of more violence and even death.

I't how they control their victims.

It's only once they are able to escape the situation and put some perspective on it that they can see that the way they were being treated is so very wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775


Oh yeah, a woman should just be believed for any false accusation they make. You aren't a man and haven't worked with men who have had false accusations against them ruin their life, have you? And they can't defend themselves, people like you attack them, guilty or not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27300636


Well from my own personal experience.

Spent 7 years in an abusive marriage.
When he picked up my young son and threw him against the wall during one of his tirades.

Long story short, I plotted to get out.

He lied on the witness stand in court, but the judge saw right through him.
I was granted an immediate divorce with a lifetime restraining order protecting myself and my kids.

His family called me all kinds of names, spread rumours about me, ruined my reputation.


I survived.

Years later, I get a knock on the door from the police, they are investigating my ex for making snuff films and want to know what I knew. All this 20 years after the divorce.

Took a long time, but I was vindicated.

So do I believe her, yes. The world can be a cruel and ugly place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775


And I know many women who are abusive, lie on the witness stand, and everything. It happens both ways. Sorry you hate men, but the reality is: there are scummy men and scummy women, and there are lying men and lying women. As long as you think "We must accept it is true" because it is an accusation you have set up a tyranny of injustice. Period.
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Hmm, so I edited the page as I'd rather err on the side of caution and you decide to post the name????? lol

Last Edited by Laura Bow on 11/08/2012 09:53 AM
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You are not a woman are you? Never worked with abused women either, I'm going to assume.

Fear is instilled in abused women, it takes a very strong girl to turn her father in for rape while the attacks are still ongoing. Most abusers put the fear of God into their victims with threats of more violence and even death.

I't how they control their victims.

It's only once they are able to escape the situation and put some perspective on it that they can see that the way they were being treated is so very wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775


Oh yeah, a woman should just be believed for any false accusation they make. You aren't a man and haven't worked with men who have had false accusations against them ruin their life, have you? And they can't defend themselves, people like you attack them, guilty or not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27300636


Well from my own personal experience.

Spent 7 years in an abusive marriage.
When he picked up my young son and threw him against the wall during one of his tirades.

Long story short, I plotted to get out.

He lied on the witness stand in court, but the judge saw right through him.
I was granted an immediate divorce with a lifetime restraining order protecting myself and my kids.

His family called me all kinds of names, spread rumours about me, ruined my reputation.


I survived.

Years later, I get a knock on the door from the police, they are investigating my ex for making snuff films and want to know what I knew. All this 20 years after the divorce.

Took a long time, but I was vindicated.

So do I believe her, yes. The world can be a cruel and ugly place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775


And I know many women who are abusive, lie on the witness stand, and everything. It happens both ways. Sorry you hate men, but the reality is: there are scummy men and scummy women, and there are lying men and lying women. As long as you think "We must accept it is true" because it is an accusation you have set up a tyranny of injustice. Period.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27300636


Don't hate men, actually love men.

I don't even waste energy on hating the ex any longer, he is just not worth it.

I'm sorry you have crossed paths with abusive women, most women that claim abuse really are suffering.

Judges are very good at discerning who is lying and who is telling the truth.
That is why they are judges.

Yes there are scummy men and women, this girl appears to be disclosing the scummy man who just happens to be her father.

Unless she is one hell of a vindictive bitch and lying through her teeth, which in my opinion she is not, this guy is going to try putting the genie back in the bottle for now that the secrets are out, society will view him in a much different light.
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Are you dumb?

She says the guys first and last name IN THE VIDEO...by posting the video, she is posting the guys personal information.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27305279


Many people with the first and last name like that. Posting the video which is discussed all over the internet is not going to get anyone in trouble.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27300636


Exactly, a first and last name is one thing, but when it's tied to a first name, last name, and people then posting address and contact info of a specific individual in a specific location that indicates that it's THAT person, it can become an issue. Either way, I edited it so that people can go to Huffington Post to read and see the video, that way there's no worry of anything posted being misconstrued.
 Quoting: Laura Bow


Go to Google and type in...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27305279


Now who is naming names? Op might want to delete your comment

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