Beauty guru confesses on Youtube and names father who allegedly raped, tortured her from age 4 - 13, true or false? | |
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| ladyannie2009 User ID: 26897748 11/08/2012 10:27 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Beauty guru confesses on Youtube and names father who allegedly raped, tortured her from age 4 - 13, true or false? holy hell......couldn't watch/listen to all of that. Very disturbing Quoting: ladyannie2009 I do not know if what she is saying is true, but to my ears, she sounded truthful. She obviously has a lot of anger & hurt that's been bottled up, and it had to have stemmed from something...I just don't know what/who caused it. I hope she gets the help & the justice she needs to put this behind her She is an actress. that didn't sound like 'just' acting if she's being truthful, then her papa needs to be held accountable. however, if she's lying...then she deserves what she gets for falsely accusing "the truth will stand up, when nothing else will" |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27300636 11/08/2012 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Beauty guru confesses on Youtube and names father who allegedly raped, tortured her from age 4 - 13, true or false? holy hell......couldn't watch/listen to all of that. Very disturbing Quoting: ladyannie2009 I do not know if what she is saying is true, but to my ears, she sounded truthful. She obviously has a lot of anger & hurt that's been bottled up, and it had to have stemmed from something...I just don't know what/who caused it. I hope she gets the help & the justice she needs to put this behind her She is an actress. that didn't sound like 'just' acting if she's being truthful, then her papa needs to be held accountable. however, if she's lying...then she deserves what she gets for falsely accusing It sounded quite scripted, and all the stops and edits to the video, and the way she was playing with the camera is typical acting technique. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 628775 11/08/2012 10:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Beauty guru confesses on Youtube and names father who allegedly raped, tortured her from age 4 - 13, true or false? ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775 The father's response is enlightening. Not that one would expect a cry of I'm guilty from a child rapist. Didn't Sandusky plead innocence? If the allegations are true, he deserves what he gets, if they are false, she deserves to be charged. All we can do now is wait and see how it all unfolds. Truth will hopefully prevail. Ah, so someone says they are innocent, that is proof of guilt?!? No but when the evidence shows that they are guilty, then they are indeed guilty. I'm pretty sure if i head off the the pen, most of the inmates will say I'm "innocent", even if they were caught red handed doing the crime. It is the nature of the criminal mind. And what evidence is there? A youtube video? Accusation is not proof of guilt. And the pictures, which could be photoshopped or taken from some other event, are not proof of anything (if real, only proof that her mother was hurt somehow; maybe an accident in a car, for all I know). Sorry, the fact is you are making it "guilt by accusation." That's vile. The above statement was a general statement regarding criminal behavior, not this case. The daughter in this case has brought some serious accusations against her father. We shall see if they are true or not. If they are, this guy needs to be punished for his actions, if they are not, the daughter should be punished. At this point it is a waiting game and you are as much in the know as I, which means neither of us really know anything other than what has been put out on the web. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14007411 11/08/2012 10:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Beauty guru confesses on Youtube and names father who allegedly raped, tortured her from age 4 - 13, true or false? Roseanne Barr did something similar to this and accused BOTH her parents of rape and abuse. And when that didn't go over too well and they adamantly denied this (although it helped to sell her book) she switched to having multiple personalities instead (so she can blame one of those people of making this up) She is a very troubled soul no doubt. I have a feeling many actors are disturbed people by and large. Not all. Many. Acting is an escape mechanism and a venue where one can lie comfortably and perfect their skills. Acting is a lie. And your goal is to convince the audience it's/you're believable. This case with Brie is not scoring high on my eternal truth meter with the guns especially the pink one. And the no make-up. And the self praising ("I turned out to be a good person...") to me are signs of a not-so-centered individual. I mean, pink gun? She's more about appearance than protection at that rate. She seems very pretentious. Very materialistic. Very artificial. Very Hollywood-ish. And her real spirit and soul is locked up so maybe this is a way of unleashing it? I don't know. I'm not a psychiatrist but I am a woman and am a pretty good 'reader' of people in general and this isn't boding well with me at all. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27300636 11/08/2012 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Beauty guru confesses on Youtube and names father who allegedly raped, tortured her from age 4 - 13, true or false? Does her Mother and Brother back her story? If so, then it's probably true. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15170057 Not necessarily. In divorce situations, it is not uncommon for a mother to lie about events, and brainwash their children to thinking something happened which didn't. We need actual evidence -- from people like doctors... |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27300636 11/08/2012 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Beauty guru confesses on Youtube and names father who allegedly raped, tortured her from age 4 - 13, true or false? Roseanne Barr did something similar to this and accused BOTH her parents of rape and abuse. And when that didn't go over too well and they adamantly denied this (although it helped to sell her book) she switched to having multiple personalities instead (so she can blame one of those people of making this up) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14007411 She is a very troubled soul no doubt. I have a feeling many actors are disturbed people by and large. Not all. Many. Acting is an escape mechanism and a venue where one can lie comfortably and perfect their skills. Acting is a lie. And your goal is to convince the audience it's/you're believable. This case with Brie is not scoring high on my eternal truth meter with the guns especially the pink one. And the no make-up. And the self praising ("I turned out to be a good person...") to me are signs of a not-so-centered individual. I mean, pink gun? She's more about appearance than protection at that rate. She seems very pretentious. Very materialistic. Very artificial. Very Hollywood-ish. And her real spirit and soul is locked up so maybe this is a way of unleashing it? I don't know. I'm not a psychiatrist but I am a woman and am a pretty good 'reader' of people in general and this isn't boding well with me at all. Right... there is a lot which feels scripted, acted, for attention. It's very Hollywood style "rape." |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12655659 11/08/2012 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Beauty guru confesses on Youtube and names father who allegedly raped, tortured her from age 4 - 13, true or false? wow how scary if true the poor girl. Something triggered this reaction, if you look at her twitter she talks about malls then BAM it goes full force into this. the audacity of her step mother subscribing is what pushed this girl over the edge. he hurt this girl deeply, how did her mother not know this was going on and if she did why wasn't he prosecuted you better believe if I were her mother he would of been bashed in the head with a frying pan then put in jail, nothing should ever stop a mother reporting this kind of abuse and if she doesn't report it she belongs in jail as well. The accusations are so terrible that it seems almost impossible for her mother or anyone in that home to not know something had to be going on, they say there are no court cases in one link but she shows one on her page that her mother filed against him from the beatings. The mother got a way and took her kids away from him which is good. on that note, if this girl is lying, that is a horrible thing but if that man beat that woman her mother the court needs to take her mental capacity into account. Also you think this might affect her job?, she teaches children yet she is going thru a mental breakdown flashing weapons on youtube. my heart goes out to her but should she be around children right now? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27179982 11/08/2012 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Beauty guru confesses on Youtube and names father who allegedly raped, tortured her from age 4 - 13, true or false? I believe she is telling the truth. Most children who try to tell the truth about being molested are shamed into being liars so learn to keep their mouth shut and deal with it. Very few women I've met in my life have ever escaped been molested or sexually assaulted at some point in their life. Just because you don't hear about how often it happens, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I admire her for calling her monster out...and that the shame he caused her will now haunt him. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27179982 Even if "most children who try to tell the truth" are not believed, does not mean all accusations are true. Seriously, stop being a sheeple for the rape card. Funny how some men will side with a child molesting rapist over the victim...wonder why? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27300636 11/08/2012 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Beauty guru confesses on Youtube and names father who allegedly raped, tortured her from age 4 - 13, true or false? She is a HORRIBLE actress. Not even remotely believable that she was angry in that video. Now I KNOW she is telling the truth in the other. No, not really. It is one thing to do a monologue to the camera, and another to be acting with someone else. I've seen actors look bad in one scene and great another. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27300636 11/08/2012 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Beauty guru confesses on Youtube and names father who allegedly raped, tortured her from age 4 - 13, true or false? I believe she is telling the truth. Most children who try to tell the truth about being molested are shamed into being liars so learn to keep their mouth shut and deal with it. Very few women I've met in my life have ever escaped been molested or sexually assaulted at some point in their life. Just because you don't hear about how often it happens, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I admire her for calling her monster out...and that the shame he caused her will now haunt him. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27179982 Even if "most children who try to tell the truth" are not believed, does not mean all accusations are true. Seriously, stop being a sheeple for the rape card. Funny how some men will side with a child molesting rapist over the victim...wonder why? Oh yeah. That's it. He's guilty already and anyone defending his right to innocence until proven guilty is also a monster. We get it. Guilt by accusation! Never once think about all the innocent lives ruined by accusations (I know guys, who, despite proven innocent, have taken their life due to the charges and harm done to them). |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27305279 11/08/2012 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Beauty guru confesses on Youtube and names father who allegedly raped, tortured her from age 4 - 13, true or false? I believe she is telling the truth. Most children who try to tell the truth about being molested are shamed into being liars so learn to keep their mouth shut and deal with it. Very few women I've met in my life have ever escaped been molested or sexually assaulted at some point in their life. Just because you don't hear about how often it happens, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I admire her for calling her monster out...and that the shame he caused her will now haunt him. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27179982 Even if "most children who try to tell the truth" are not believed, does not mean all accusations are true. Seriously, stop being a sheeple for the rape card. Funny how some men will side with a child molesting rapist over the victim...wonder why? Your labels are wrong. NOBODY, including you, knows if this is true or not accept for her and her father at this point. Your posting out of emotion, calm down and use logic. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26231869 11/08/2012 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Beauty guru confesses on Youtube and names father who allegedly raped, tortured her from age 4 - 13, true or false? She sounds like a victim of the Monarch project. This is the kind of abuse and torture they do to little kids to split off personalities (multiple personality disorder) so they can program them as mind controlled slaves. It usually starts with dad (and or mom) victimizing them at a very young age. [link to secretarcana.com] Just my thought. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27305279 11/08/2012 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Beauty guru confesses on Youtube and names father who allegedly raped, tortured her from age 4 - 13, true or false? LMAO at someone deleting my post. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27305279 So it's ok to post a video of someone else saying first and last names but if you WRITE them out in the thread then you're the bad guy. What difference does it make now, the whole world can see the video on youtube? My point, exactly. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27305279 11/08/2012 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Beauty guru confesses on Youtube and names father who allegedly raped, tortured her from age 4 - 13, true or false? She is a HORRIBLE actress. Not even remotely believable that she was angry in that video. Now I KNOW she is telling the truth in the other. No, not really. It is one thing to do a monologue to the camera, and another to be acting with someone else. I've seen actors look bad in one scene and great another. My 14 year old daughter can act better than that. Maybe that's why she's doing stunt double roles instead of acting roles. lol |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12655659 11/08/2012 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Beauty guru confesses on Youtube and names father who allegedly raped, tortured her from age 4 - 13, true or false? she says in one part of the video, "one night she lay over my body so he couldn't, and he beat her teeth in" she is talking about her mother why didn't her mother help her and either make it where this man can never function correctly again and put his ass in jail, no excuse...battered woman syndrome is one thing but when it comes to your children nothing will hold a women back, well for most. why didn't she prosecute him for this, she states her mother knew. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14007411 11/08/2012 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Beauty guru confesses on Youtube and names father who allegedly raped, tortured her from age 4 - 13, true or false? What I find truly disturbing is, if she is lying, she's being rewarded by publicity either way. Even bad publicity is good for an actor. It puts their name out there. And in time, it's fades. The way she clenches her teeth over and over again, when she speaks of her rapist, to me, looks like acting. It's visual acting to accompany the audio acting. I just don't buy this for many reasons. She's 27 years old. Why not come out with this earlier? Surely she can't be that scared if she choose to put her father's name out there on YouTube. She defeated everything some of you are saying, was her purpose of keeping this to herself all these years. What I'm curious is, what did she expect to happen next (if...this is a lie which I suspect is)? I mean, surely this was going to get to her high-profiled father, which it did. Then what? Is this a matter of a she-said he-said contest? I'm not so sure her step mother isn't involved to help launch Brie's career by subscribing to her channel and being the catalyst. I don't know for sure but at this rate, I wouldn't be surprised. What about her mother? Brother? Cousins, aunts, uncles and neighbors? School friends? Will there be any corroboration to her allegations? When did these rapes take place? Where was the mother? I have a feeling this is the beginning of a huge mess for her but probably a very well-thought out one too! If she's caught lying, she deserves prison time! Not jail. Not home arrest. Not probation but prison to discourage others not to try this. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27300636 11/08/2012 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Beauty guru confesses on Youtube and names father who allegedly raped, tortured her from age 4 - 13, true or false? Who are the two witnesses? What kind of witness do they provide? If, for example, one is her mother, it could be her mother made the whole thing up, and it is a conspiracy out of revenge. What is needed is good, solid evidence. Like doctor and dental records from the time period in question. For both of them. And what the doctors have to say about said time period. That is much better evidence. Also, I think a medical examination of her genitals is necessary... if he did that every day for years, there would be real medical evidence here.. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26849823 11/08/2012 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Beauty guru confesses on Youtube and names father who allegedly raped, tortured her from age 4 - 13, true or false? Unfortunately this is more common than we will ever know because most children don't want to tell anyone because they are ashamed of what is happening at home. I counseled a girl once who tried to hang herself at 14 with an electrical cord because her mom had died and her father was forcing her to have sex with him in order to live in their house and eat. She was beautiful, popular at school, and upper middle class, and did not tell one person about it until she tried to take her life. He eventually was charged and she went into foster care, but it had been going on for two years. It's so awful that there are sick bastards like this in the world and so many of you want to say she is acting or making it up. Why not give her the benefit of the doubt? I don't believe many people out there would put themselves through this sort of public humiliation except that she is genuinely terrified of her "father". |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27305279 11/08/2012 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Beauty guru confesses on Youtube and names father who allegedly raped, tortured her from age 4 - 13, true or false? What I find truly disturbing is, if she is lying, she's being rewarded by publicity either way. Even bad publicity is good for an actor. It puts their name out there. And in time, it's fades. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14007411 The way she clenches her teeth over and over again, when she speaks of her rapist, to me, looks like acting. It's visual acting to accompany the audio acting. I just don't buy this for many reasons. She's 27 years old. Why not come out with this earlier? Surely she can't be that scared if she choose to put her father's name out there on YouTube. She defeated everything some of you are saying, was her purpose of keeping this to herself all these years. What I'm curious is, what did she expect to happen next (if...this is a lie which I suspect is)? I mean, surely this was going to get to her high-profiled father, which it did. Then what? Is this a matter of a she-said he-said contest? I'm not so sure her step mother isn't involved to help launch Brie's career by subscribing to her channel and being the catalyst. I don't know for sure but at this rate, I wouldn't be surprised. What about her mother? Brother? Cousins, aunts, uncles and neighbors? School friends? Will there be any corroboration to her allegations? When did these rapes take place? Where was the mother? I have a feeling this is the beginning of a huge mess for her but probably a very well-thought out one too! If she's caught lying, she deserves prison time! Not jail. Not home arrest. Not probation but prison to discourage others not to try this. Have you seen her actually trying to act though? It's horrible! If she's acting in that rape video, she has improved GREATLY over her previous roles. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27300636 11/08/2012 10:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Beauty guru confesses on Youtube and names father who allegedly raped, tortured her from age 4 - 13, true or false? What I find truly disturbing is, if she is lying, she's being rewarded by publicity either way. Even bad publicity is good for an actor. It puts their name out there. And in time, it's fades. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14007411 The way she clenches her teeth over and over again, when she speaks of her rapist, to me, looks like acting. It's visual acting to accompany the audio acting. I just don't buy this for many reasons. She's 27 years old. Why not come out with this earlier? Surely she can't be that scared if she choose to put her father's name out there on YouTube. She defeated everything some of you are saying, was her purpose of keeping this to herself all these years. What I'm curious is, what did she expect to happen next (if...this is a lie which I suspect is)? I mean, surely this was going to get to her high-profiled father, which it did. Then what? Is this a matter of a she-said he-said contest? I'm not so sure her step mother isn't involved to help launch Brie's career by subscribing to her channel and being the catalyst. I don't know for sure but at this rate, I wouldn't be surprised. What about her mother? Brother? Cousins, aunts, uncles and neighbors? School friends? Will there be any corroboration to her allegations? When did these rapes take place? Where was the mother? I have a feeling this is the beginning of a huge mess for her but probably a very well-thought out one too! If she's caught lying, she deserves prison time! Not jail. Not home arrest. Not probation but prison to discourage others not to try this. Have you seen her actually trying to act though? It's horrible! If she's acting in that rape video, she has improved GREATLY over her previous roles. As has been stated before, direction, content of the script, etc can all make or break someone. Many who are "good actors" look bad in the wrong parts. It's not so simple. |
| Laura Bow (OP) User ID: 1158661 11/08/2012 10:57 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Beauty guru confesses on Youtube and names father who allegedly raped, tortured her from age 4 - 13, true or false? What I find truly disturbing is, if she is lying, she's being rewarded by publicity either way. Even bad publicity is good for an actor. It puts their name out there. And in time, it's fades. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14007411 The way she clenches her teeth over and over again, when she speaks of her rapist, to me, looks like acting. It's visual acting to accompany the audio acting. I just don't buy this for many reasons. She's 27 years old. Why not come out with this earlier? Surely she can't be that scared if she choose to put her father's name out there on YouTube. She defeated everything some of you are saying, was her purpose of keeping this to herself all these years. What I'm curious is, what did she expect to happen next (if...this is a lie which I suspect is)? I mean, surely this was going to get to her high-profiled father, which it did. Then what? Is this a matter of a she-said he-said contest? I'm not so sure her step mother isn't involved to help launch Brie's career by subscribing to her channel and being the catalyst. I don't know for sure but at this rate, I wouldn't be surprised. What about her mother? Brother? Cousins, aunts, uncles and neighbors? School friends? Will there be any corroboration to her allegations? When did these rapes take place? Where was the mother? I have a feeling this is the beginning of a huge mess for her but probably a very well-thought out one too! If she's caught lying, she deserves prison time! Not jail. Not home arrest. Not probation but prison to discourage others not to try this. Well, the reasoning on her not coming out with this earlier may be she wanted to put it behind her? The trigger was her father subscribing to her Youtube channel, which is what prompted this. However, you are right that this is publicity for her either way, and the thing is that now she will be known. I think there's no way to absolutely prove this story FALSE either, and there would always be people who heard the initial story from her side and not the father's...just like it would probably be difficult to prove it TRUE as well, unless there's some sort of evidence she may have, perhaps testimony from people such as doctors, neighbors?? It seems that something like this get emotions running and sometimes people will not think logically about an issue such as this. Scary. Like I said, it's very disturbing either way. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27300636 11/08/2012 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Beauty guru confesses on Youtube and names father who allegedly raped, tortured her from age 4 - 13, true or false? Unfortunately this is more common than we will ever know because most children don't want to tell anyone because they are ashamed of what is happening at home. I counseled a girl once who tried to hang herself at 14 with an electrical cord because her mom had died and her father was forcing her to have sex with him in order to live in their house and eat. She was beautiful, popular at school, and upper middle class, and did not tell one person about it until she tried to take her life. He eventually was charged and she went into foster care, but it had been going on for two years. It's so awful that there are sick bastards like this in the world and so many of you want to say she is acting or making it up. Why not give her the benefit of the doubt? I don't believe many people out there would put themselves through this sort of public humiliation except that she is genuinely terrified of her "father". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26849823 Innocent until proven guilty. Why not give people accused the benefit of the doubt, when that protects justice, and makes it that people have to prove a case (you can't prove a negative)? Why should innocent people be treated with contempt because someone just accused them and they have to prove they didn't do it? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27305279 11/08/2012 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Beauty guru confesses on Youtube and names father who allegedly raped, tortured her from age 4 - 13, true or false? Unfortunately this is more common than we will ever know because most children don't want to tell anyone because they are ashamed of what is happening at home. I counseled a girl once who tried to hang herself at 14 with an electrical cord because her mom had died and her father was forcing her to have sex with him in order to live in their house and eat. She was beautiful, popular at school, and upper middle class, and did not tell one person about it until she tried to take her life. He eventually was charged and she went into foster care, but it had been going on for two years. It's so awful that there are sick bastards like this in the world and so many of you want to say she is acting or making it up. Why not give her the benefit of the doubt? I don't believe many people out there would put themselves through this sort of public humiliation except that she is genuinely terrified of her "father". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26849823 Innocent until proven guilty. Why not give people accused the benefit of the doubt, when that protects justice, and makes it that people have to prove a case (you can't prove a negative)? Why should innocent people be treated with contempt because someone just accused them and they have to prove they didn't do it? BINGO! |