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Beauty guru confesses on Youtube and names father who allegedly raped, tortured her from age 4 - 13, true or false?

 
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Just the strain in her face and the dark circles tell me she is very stressed about it. I think she's for real. It wouldn't benefit her to lie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20581494


She starts the video out by saying this isn't how people usually see her.

Why the introduction to such a thing? And why the theatrical title "a message to my rapist"?

It's all so over-the-top. Who uses the Internet to sound off to their rapist?
They usually go to the police. Or confide in someone. They don't turn to YouTube.

According to the article in Huffington, the step mother subscribed to her that day. Now whether this is all one major coup to attract attention, we don't know.

But if you watch the video again, with the mindset that she's making this up, one can see where she might be acting.

Her tears look induced. Her no makeup look is to add to the victimization role. The sneering (curling up her lips) when she says the word rape or dad looks totally disingenuous.

Her gun collection well.......who buys a pink gun if not to show it off to others?
That's like buying a pink can of mace. Who cares what it looks like if it's really a tool to protect you while walking down the street.

I am not buying this. Not at this juncture anyway.
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The sad thing is , how can you prove something that happened years ago? Does she have a dress with his stuff on it ? I really doubt she has physical evidence from the passed. So sad a father would do that to any child.
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Whats her Dad going to say "yes I raped my daughter for years and now I jack off to her you tube video's".
I believe her and dont think she would lie to the public for attention. As she was doing great before saying this.
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Why do you think she wouldn't lie? And what is "great?" And what if she was told a lie and believes it herself? There are many children convinced of things which didn't happen.
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The sad thing is , how can you prove something that happened years ago? Does she have a dress with his stuff on it ? I really doubt she has physical evidence from the passed. So sad a father would do that to any child.
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Well, there would be medical records, witnesses, etc. She probably would have grave damage to her genital region if what she claimed happened, did. There would be signs in x-rays. So medical check-up, and witnesses, among other things would be a start.

On the other hand, how do you prove you are innocent, especially if people think you must do so?
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Whats her Dad going to say "yes I raped my daughter for years and now I jack off to her you tube video's".
I believe her and dont think she would lie to the public for attention. As she was doing great before saying this.
 Quoting: MONSTER


She is absolutely using the public for attention any way you slice this.
If she's being truthful, she using an audience to vent to.
And if she's making this up, she's using an audience to profit by.

This is NOT the typical way a rape victim behaves. I don't give a shit if she thought her dad subscribed to her that day or not. You don't turn to a million strangers, after 23 years.....to tell your horrific story. It's not normal or atypical of being a victim.

And the fact that she thrives on attention (her YT channel that caters to makeup tips and so on) on TOP of being an actress where people love being the center of attention on stage well...it really doesn't work to her advantage or believability factor.
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The sad thing is , how can you prove something that happened years ago? Does she have a dress with his stuff on it ? I really doubt she has physical evidence from the passed. So sad a father would do that to any child.
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Well, there would be medical records, witnesses, etc. She probably would have grave damage to her genital region if what she claimed happened, did. There would be signs in x-rays. So medical check-up, and witnesses, among other things would be a start.

On the other hand, how do you prove you are innocent, especially if people think you must do so?
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That's what I wondered, if she was raped from the age of 4 onward...I'm guessing??? there would have to be some permanent damage that a medical exam could detect and that be used as evidence?
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The sad thing is , how can you prove something that happened years ago? Does she have a dress with his stuff on it ? I really doubt she has physical evidence from the passed. So sad a father would do that to any child.
 Quoting: MONSTER


Well, there would be medical records, witnesses, etc. She probably would have grave damage to her genital region if what she claimed happened, did. There would be signs in x-rays. So medical check-up, and witnesses, among other things would be a start.

On the other hand, how do you prove you are innocent, especially if people think you must do so?
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That's what I wondered, if she was raped from the age of 4 onward...I'm guessing??? there would have to be some permanent damage that a medical exam could detect and that be used as evidence?
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I would think so, yes. And it sounds like there could be other physical damage as well. It would serve as evidence, and other things would have to be given, but yes, there are things which could be done to develop a case.

I'm a person whose father has worked long and hard in the area of child abuse and neglect, helping get some abusers sent into prison, while helping some innocent get their innocence proven in court. What I know from him (he's now dead, so can't ask in this instance) is what gives me the push for the innocent until proven guilty (but don't ignore and investigate) attitude.
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I've watched lots of youtube beauty guru videos, but had never seen hers or anything revealed like that before! Horrible. :(
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Lets put it this way there is one sick bastard involved. Is it the father, or is it her? I don't know. The tragedy is that real rape and false accusations are both all too common.

It will come out sooner or later. Either he is a sick evil fuck and it will be pretty obvious when the cops interview him. Or she is a wack job, and that will be pretty obvious when they interview her.
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Accusing your father of rape (falsely or otherwise) is anything but common. But she does have a witness -- her mother.
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Lets put it this way there is one sick bastard involved. Is it the father, or is it her? I don't know. The tragedy is that real rape and false accusations are both all too common.

It will come out sooner or later. Either he is a sick evil fuck and it will be pretty obvious when the cops interview him. Or she is a wack job, and that will be pretty obvious when they interview her.
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Accusing your father of rape (falsely or otherwise) is anything but common. But she does have a witness -- her mother.
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On the other hand, accusing abuse from the father by the mother is quite common in divorce cases, and often the child is convinced of it though it didn't happen.
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Whats her Dad going to say "yes I raped my daughter for years and now I jack off to her you tube video's".
I believe her and dont think she would lie to the public for attention. As she was doing great before saying this.
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Why do you think she wouldn't lie? And what is "great?" And what if she was told a lie and believes it herself? There are many children convinced of things which didn't happen.
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Her motive was her father subscribing to her account -- and she felt threatened. It's one thing to swallow your shame and forget about it, it's quite another to be reminded of those years by the perp being your "fan". And her recollections arent from what happened to a 4 year old,,, but repeatedly over 9 years. Esp poignant for her was seeing her mother beaten senselessly...
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Lets put it this way there is one sick bastard involved. Is it the father, or is it her? I don't know. The tragedy is that real rape and false accusations are both all too common.

It will come out sooner or later. Either he is a sick evil fuck and it will be pretty obvious when the cops interview him. Or she is a wack job, and that will be pretty obvious when they interview her.
 Quoting: Fred 1081195


Accusing your father of rape (falsely or otherwise) is anything but common. But she does have a witness -- her mother.
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On the other hand, accusing abuse from the father by the mother is quite common in divorce cases, and often the child is convinced of it though it didn't happen.
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Apples and oranges.
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Why would she lie?
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Women lie all the time.
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I find this comment suspicious. Who else has something to hide?
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I doubt it's true.
Women can scream rape anytime they want and the guy will ALWAYS get the crap end of the stick.

She's obviously got an axe to grind, perhaps on her mothers behalf.
She sounds like an attention whore anyhow, I have seen this happen SO many times with girls in my own peer group.
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Whats her Dad going to say "yes I raped my daughter for years and now I jack off to her you tube video's".
I believe her and dont think she would lie to the public for attention. As she was doing great before saying this.
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Why do you think she wouldn't lie? And what is "great?" And what if she was told a lie and believes it herself? There are many children convinced of things which didn't happen.
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Her motive was her father subscribing to her account -- and she felt threatened. It's one thing to swallow your shame and forget about it, it's quite another to be reminded of those years by the perp being your "fan". And her recollections arent from what happened to a 4 year old,,, but repeatedly over 9 years. Esp poignant for her was seeing her mother beaten senselessly...
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You are assuming she is telling the truth. And even older children are led to believe what their mom tells them. It is more common than you think. Look up false memory syndrome. But it is just one possible explanation of many. You need to be careful and not just have guilt by accusation.
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Whats her Dad going to say "yes I raped my daughter for years and now I jack off to her you tube video's".
I believe her and dont think she would lie to the public for attention. As she was doing great before saying this.
 Quoting: MONSTER


She is absolutely using the public for attention any way you slice this.
If she's being truthful, she using an audience to vent to.
And if she's making this up, she's using an audience to profit by.

This is NOT the typical way a rape victim behaves. I don't give a shit if she thought her dad subscribed to her that day or not. You don't turn to a million strangers, after 23 years.....to tell your horrific story. It's not normal or atypical of being a victim.

And the fact that she thrives on attention (her YT channel that caters to makeup tips and so on) on TOP of being an actress where people love being the center of attention on stage well...it really doesn't work to her advantage or believability factor.
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All of the above! she clearly exhibts attention seeking behavior.


The sad thing is , how can you prove something that happened years ago? Does she have a dress with his stuff on it ? I really doubt she has physical evidence from the passed. So sad a father would do that to any child.
 Quoting: MONSTER


Well, there would be medical records, witnesses, etc. She probably would have grave damage to her genital region if what she claimed happened, did. There would be signs in x-rays. So medical check-up, and witnesses, among other things would be a start.

On the other hand, how do you prove you are innocent, especially if people think you must do so?
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That's what I wondered, if she was raped from the age of 4 onward...I'm guessing??? there would have to be some permanent damage that a medical exam could detect and that be used as evidence?
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Of course there would be medica evidence! I call BS!! there was a divorce proceeding and the mother was beaten and obviously authorities were involved, you think for one second the mother would not have known? and she would just leave a wounded 4 year old? that makes her complicit as well!

Believe only half of what you see.. ALWAYS.


Lets put it this way there is one sick bastard involved. Is it the father, or is it her? I don't know. The tragedy is that real rape and false accusations are both all too common.

It will come out sooner or later. Either he is a sick evil fuck and it will be pretty obvious when the cops interview him. Or she is a wack job, and that will be pretty obvious when they interview her.
 Quoting: Fred 1081195


Accusing your father of rape (falsely or otherwise) is anything but common. But she does have a witness -- her mother.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624


Right! if this did happen the mother is complicit and legally responsible as well. End of story!
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I know there was a similar thread on this yesterday, but I think it was taken down because people had found and were posting the man's personal information. Please don't have this thread taken down, while I'm only guessing that's the reason why, PLEASE DON'T POST PERSONAL CONTACT INFORMATION OF THE MAN MENTIONED! It is gaining attention in the news and I'm sure others as well as myself would like to see what happens with this.




Brie Lybrand, New Orleans Beauty Guru, Posts Video Claiming She Was Raped By Her Father


When subscribers check to see Brie Lybrand's latest YouTube video, they're expecting to watch one of her typical, upbeat beauty and shopping tutorials. So when "The New Orleans Beauty Guru" posted her latest video entitled "A Message To My Rapist," the world took notice.

Lyrbrand, a former pageant star, appears shaken and makeup-free as she makes her unexpected announcement. "I just got an email from YouTube saying that the man who raped me for most of my life subscribed to me," she says with disgust. "The man that took my virginity, robbed me of an innocence has subscribed to me on YouTube and is watching my videos."


More at [link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

**editing this** The video can be seen at Huffington Post.


Here's her Twitter page, it looks like she's updating with some pics of what she's claiming to be proof:

[link to twitter.com (secure)]


She's also a professionally trained actress -


Mini Biography

Brie is a professionally trained actor and singer from New Orleans, LA. She received her Theatre degree from Tulane University, with a minor in History. Brie competed and held titles for Miss Louisiana, Miss Louisiana Teen, Miss Metairie, National American Miss, Miss Louisiana United States, and American Co-Ed. Calling Brie a "triple-threat" is a huge understatement.


[link to www.imdb.com]




Her father made a statement to his local newspaper claiming the accusations are false and he may be contacting the district attorney in Louisiana -


[link to www.thecorryjournal.com]


So, what do those on GLP think?


**Editing this so that people can go to Huffington Post directly to view the video, as well as read the link regarding the father's side of the story per his local newspaper.
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When I hear the word "GURU"

I Cringe !
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I know there was a similar thread on this yesterday, but I think it was taken down because people had found and were posting the man's personal information. Please don't have this thread taken down, while I'm only guessing that's the reason why, PLEASE DON'T POST PERSONAL CONTACT INFORMATION OF THE MAN MENTIONED! It is gaining attention in the news and I'm sure others as well as myself would like to see what happens with this.




Brie Lybrand, New Orleans Beauty Guru, Posts Video Claiming She Was Raped By Her Father


When subscribers check to see Brie Lybrand's latest YouTube video, they're expecting to watch one of her typical, upbeat beauty and shopping tutorials. So when "The New Orleans Beauty Guru" posted her latest video entitled "A Message To My Rapist," the world took notice.

Lyrbrand, a former pageant star, appears shaken and makeup-free as she makes her unexpected announcement. "I just got an email from YouTube saying that the man who raped me for most of my life subscribed to me," she says with disgust. "The man that took my virginity, robbed me of an innocence has subscribed to me on YouTube and is watching my videos."


More at [link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

**editing this** The video can be seen at Huffington Post.


Here's her Twitter page, it looks like she's updating with some pics of what she's claiming to be proof:

[link to twitter.com (secure)]


She's also a professionally trained actress -


Mini Biography

Brie is a professionally trained actor and singer from New Orleans, LA. She received her Theatre degree from Tulane University, with a minor in History. Brie competed and held titles for Miss Louisiana, Miss Louisiana Teen, Miss Metairie, National American Miss, Miss Louisiana United States, and American Co-Ed. Calling Brie a "triple-threat" is a huge understatement.


[link to www.imdb.com]




Her father made a statement to his local newspaper claiming the accusations are false and he may be contacting the district attorney in Louisiana -


[link to www.thecorryjournal.com]


So, what do those on GLP think?


**Editing this so that people can go to Huffington Post directly to view the video, as well as read the link regarding the father's side of the story per his local newspaper.
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When I hear the word "GURU"

I Cringe !
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Right! if this did happen the mother is complicit and legally responsible as well. End of story!
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That's actually a good point...did the mother know and not pursue it legally (ie. have him locked up) when the divorce was going on? If they managed to have something in the divorce regarding "inhuman" treatment, why wasn't this situation brought to the police then? Unless perhaps the mother did not know the extent of the situation? Hmmm...
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I don't believe that any person could lie about such a thing on the public stage.............to me she seems like a strong person with a good heart...
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Right! if this did happen the mother is complicit and legally responsible as well. End of story!
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That's actually a good point...did the mother know and not pursue it legally (ie. have him locked up) when the divorce was going on? If they managed to have something in the divorce regarding "inhuman" treatment, why wasn't this situation brought to the police then? Unless perhaps the mother did not know the extent of the situation? Hmmm...
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In her story, she said her mother knew and was protecting her; remember, she said her mother went over her to protect her and that is why her mother got beat up. So to the story, her mother knew and protected her. But again, if so, why not do more with prosecutors? I mentioned this before, and was one of many reasons why I feel the story falls apart.
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I don't believe that any person could lie about such a thing on the public stage.............to me she seems like a strong person with a good heart...
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Well, you believe wrong. Many people DO lie about such things on the public stage.
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Right! if this did happen the mother is complicit and legally responsible as well. End of story!
 Quoting: Nic


That's actually a good point...did the mother know and not pursue it legally (ie. have him locked up) when the divorce was going on? If they managed to have something in the divorce regarding "inhuman" treatment, why wasn't this situation brought to the police then? Unless perhaps the mother did not know the extent of the situation? Hmmm...
 Quoting: Laura Bow


In her story, she said her mother knew and was protecting her; remember, she said her mother went over her to protect her and that is why her mother got beat up. So to the story, her mother knew and protected her. But again, if so, why not do more with prosecutors? I mentioned this before, and was one of many reasons why I feel the story falls apart.
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True...which would question why during the divorce she did nothing...like I said, I'm trying to remain open-minded about this but that's a good point as you'd have to wonder why she wouldn't have made sure his ass was in jail during or after the divorce at some point.
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She's a nobody. She's done some car stereo shop commercials in her town yippee.

Why are we supposed to care?
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Right! if this did happen the mother is complicit and legally responsible as well. End of story!
 Quoting: Nic


That's actually a good point...did the mother know and not pursue it legally (ie. have him locked up) when the divorce was going on? If they managed to have something in the divorce regarding "inhuman" treatment, why wasn't this situation brought to the police then? Unless perhaps the mother did not know the extent of the situation? Hmmm...
 Quoting: Laura Bow


In her story, she said her mother knew and was protecting her; remember, she said her mother went over her to protect her and that is why her mother got beat up. So to the story, her mother knew and protected her. But again, if so, why not do more with prosecutors? I mentioned this before, and was one of many reasons why I feel the story falls apart.
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True...which would question why during the divorce she did nothing...like I said, I'm trying to remain open-minded about this but that's a good point as you'd have to wonder why she wouldn't have made sure his ass was in jail during or after the divorce at some point.
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Right. As I said, I am still open it happened and think it is best for a full investigation. But I think the critical questions and skepticism is best (innocent until proven guilty), especially when one sees all the quick, hateful reactionary comments which shows people assume accusation is proof of guilt. I am not saying she is lying, though I do think some people are right in saying, if this is true, the video was staged, scripted and made for attention (which explains elements of it). Nonetheless, I am trying to provide the most skeptical aspect to it without outright saying impossible for these reasons. I am open for evidence to come out in the proper fashion but I also think the questions are good to raise.
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What about the pictures she posted

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they look pretty real says it is her mom
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How many times does this have to be responded to?

1) they are photos of something.. are they photoshopped, staged, or real? I don't know
2) even if they are photos of her mom being beat up, how did they happen? from her father? from someone else? this isn't proof her father did anything.... let alone rape her.
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Well what proof does she have to give that her father raped, tortured her? Not a thing. Impossible to prove, anyway. However, if the father wants to charge her with slander/defamation of character, he can take it to court with his evidence.
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That's actually a good point...did the mother know and not pursue it legally (ie. have him locked up) when the divorce was going on? If they managed to have something in the divorce regarding "inhuman" treatment, why wasn't this situation brought to the police then? Unless perhaps the mother did not know the extent of the situation? Hmmm...
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In her story, she said her mother knew and was protecting her; remember, she said her mother went over her to protect her and that is why her mother got beat up. So to the story, her mother knew and protected her. But again, if so, why not do more with prosecutors? I mentioned this before, and was one of many reasons why I feel the story falls apart.
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True...which would question why during the divorce she did nothing...like I said, I'm trying to remain open-minded about this but that's a good point as you'd have to wonder why she wouldn't have made sure his ass was in jail during or after the divorce at some point.
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Right. As I said, I am still open it happened and think it is best for a full investigation. But I think the critical questions and skepticism is best (innocent until proven guilty), especially when one sees all the quick, hateful reactionary comments which shows people assume accusation is proof of guilt. I am not saying she is lying, though I do think some people are right in saying, if this is true, the video was staged, scripted and made for attention (which explains elements of it). Nonetheless, I am trying to provide the most skeptical aspect to it without outright saying impossible for these reasons. I am open for evidence to come out in the proper fashion but I also think the questions are good to raise.
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Yes, I've been quite appalled at the mob mentality I've seen in some places regarding this. Don't get me wrong, if the guy did this he needs to be ELIMINATED, but as you said...innocent until proven guilty. The way she laid it out made me queasy, because even if she was addressing a rapist...it was like she was soliciting an online hit by the amount of information she provided.
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What about the pictures she posted

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they look pretty real says it is her mom
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How many times does this have to be responded to?

1) they are photos of something.. are they photoshopped, staged, or real? I don't know
2) even if they are photos of her mom being beat up, how did they happen? from her father? from someone else? this isn't proof her father did anything.... let alone rape her.
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Well what proof does she have to give that her father raped, tortured her? Not a thing. Impossible to prove, anyway. However, if the father wants to charge her with slander/defamation of character, he can take it to court with his evidence.
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So she can just accuse and destroy a life? Really? Crazy. No, she does have to prove it if she is make the claim. That's the thing. That's how it works. Those who make the claim have to make the case and show it, not those who are accused.
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In her story, she said her mother knew and was protecting her; remember, she said her mother went over her to protect her and that is why her mother got beat up. So to the story, her mother knew and protected her. But again, if so, why not do more with prosecutors? I mentioned this before, and was one of many reasons why I feel the story falls apart.
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True...which would question why during the divorce she did nothing...like I said, I'm trying to remain open-minded about this but that's a good point as you'd have to wonder why she wouldn't have made sure his ass was in jail during or after the divorce at some point.
 Quoting: Laura Bow


Right. As I said, I am still open it happened and think it is best for a full investigation. But I think the critical questions and skepticism is best (innocent until proven guilty), especially when one sees all the quick, hateful reactionary comments which shows people assume accusation is proof of guilt. I am not saying she is lying, though I do think some people are right in saying, if this is true, the video was staged, scripted and made for attention (which explains elements of it). Nonetheless, I am trying to provide the most skeptical aspect to it without outright saying impossible for these reasons. I am open for evidence to come out in the proper fashion but I also think the questions are good to raise.
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Yes, I've been quite appalled at the mob mentality I've seen in some places regarding this. Don't get me wrong, if the guy did this he needs to be ELIMINATED, but as you said...innocent until proven guilty. The way she laid it out made me queasy, because even if she was addressing a rapist...it was like she was soliciting an online hit by the amount of information she provided.
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If the guy did it, he needs to pay, right. But I do feel uncomfortable with how this is playing, for many reasons, as has been said. Just something fishy with it. Even if it happened, there is something more going on here, on her end, imo. She needs help, whether or not she lied, is crazy, or told the truth, for even if she told the truth, this shows the healing isn't there.
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Whats her Dad going to say "yes I raped my daughter for years and now I jack off to her you tube video's".
I believe her and dont think she would lie to the public for attention. As she was doing great before saying this.
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Why do you think she wouldn't lie? And what is "great?" And what if she was told a lie and believes it herself? There are many children convinced of things which didn't happen.
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Her motive was her father subscribing to her account -- and she felt threatened. It's one thing to swallow your shame and forget about it, it's quite another to be reminded of those years by the perp being your "fan". And her recollections arent from what happened to a 4 year old,,, but repeatedly over 9 years. Esp poignant for her was seeing her mother beaten senselessly...
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You are assuming she is telling the truth. And even older children are led to believe what their mom tells them. It is more common than you think. Look up false memory syndrome. But it is just one possible explanation of many. You need to be careful and not just have guilt by accusation.
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I can understand if the child was "brainwashed" by the mother to falsely recall what her dad did to her mother. But this is first person recollection, a 9 year experience of what happened to her. And its a daughter's accusation against her father.

Also the 2000 divorce between the mother and father, the mother's grounds were "inhumane treatment", which was never overturned even though he appealed twice.

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