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Beauty guru confesses on Youtube and names father who allegedly raped, tortured her from age 4 - 13, true or false?

 
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Lets put it this way there is one sick bastard involved. Is it the father, or is it her? I don't know. The tragedy is that real rape and false accusations are both all too common.

It will come out sooner or later. Either he is a sick evil fuck and it will be pretty obvious when the cops interview him. Or she is a wack job, and that will be pretty obvious when they interview her.
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Accusing your father of rape (falsely or otherwise) is anything but common. But she does have a witness -- her mother.
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There's her brother, too. Have they publicly said anything yet? Also, the grandparents who were not first hand witnesses but would have had knowledge of this after she went to live with them.. Their comments would be interesting.
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What about the pictures she posted

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they look pretty real says it is her mom
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How many times does this have to be responded to?

1) they are photos of something.. are they photoshopped, staged, or real? I don't know
2) even if they are photos of her mom being beat up, how did they happen? from her father? from someone else? this isn't proof her father did anything.... let alone rape her.
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Well what proof does she have to give that her father raped, tortured her? Not a thing. Impossible to prove, anyway. However, if the father wants to charge her with slander/defamation of character, he can take it to court with his evidence.
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So she can just accuse and destroy a life? Really? Crazy. No, she does have to prove it if she is make the claim. That's the thing. That's how it works. Those who make the claim have to make the case and show it, not those who are accused.
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Yup, she can accuse her father and destroy his life. Cant all daughters do that to their fathers if they so please? Please direct me to a precedent of this? I would guess it is extremely rare. She wont be able to prove it, and if he sues her he'll still be destroyed. Mission accomplished. The fool must have known she would have freaked out by subscribing to her account.
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How many times does this have to be responded to?

1) they are photos of something.. are they photoshopped, staged, or real? I don't know
2) even if they are photos of her mom being beat up, how did they happen? from her father? from someone else? this isn't proof her father did anything.... let alone rape her.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27300636


Well what proof does she have to give that her father raped, tortured her? Not a thing. Impossible to prove, anyway. However, if the father wants to charge her with slander/defamation of character, he can take it to court with his evidence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624


So she can just accuse and destroy a life? Really? Crazy. No, she does have to prove it if she is make the claim. That's the thing. That's how it works. Those who make the claim have to make the case and show it, not those who are accused.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27300636


Yup, she can accuse her father and destroy his life. Cant all daughters do that to their fathers if they so please? Please direct me to a precedent of this? I would guess it is extremely rare. She wont be able to prove it, and if he sues her he'll still be destroyed. Mission accomplished. The fool must have known she would have freaked out by subscribing to her account.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624


No, she cannot do it, you are not allowed to do so. And yes, people DO prove it. She would be able to make up a huge collection of evidence with the story she provided. Witnesses, medical testimony, doctor reports, everything. Sorry, you just want to believe in guilt by accusation, and that is vile.
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Well what proof does she have to give that her father raped, tortured her? Not a thing. Impossible to prove, anyway. However, if the father wants to charge her with slander/defamation of character, he can take it to court with his evidence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624


So she can just accuse and destroy a life? Really? Crazy. No, she does have to prove it if she is make the claim. That's the thing. That's how it works. Those who make the claim have to make the case and show it, not those who are accused.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27300636


Yup, she can accuse her father and destroy his life. Cant all daughters do that to their fathers if they so please? Please direct me to a precedent of this? I would guess it is extremely rare. She wont be able to prove it, and if he sues her he'll still be destroyed. Mission accomplished. The fool must have known she would have freaked out by subscribing to her account.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624


No, she cannot do it, you are not allowed to do so. And yes, people DO prove it. She would be able to make up a huge collection of evidence with the story she provided. Witnesses, medical testimony, doctor reports, everything. Sorry, you just want to believe in guilt by accusation, and that is vile.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27300636


Rape can only be proven when the physical evidence is fresh. That's a fact. But the fact that the accusation is a daughter against her father carries alot of weight, more than a woman against her employer, lover, neighbor, etc. The natural bond is too strong for it to be a false accusation. And this woman has absolutely nothing to gain, and will probably jeopardize her career by the southern backlash, re the Dixie Chicks.
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So she can just accuse and destroy a life? Really? Crazy. No, she does have to prove it if she is make the claim. That's the thing. That's how it works. Those who make the claim have to make the case and show it, not those who are accused.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27300636


Yup, she can accuse her father and destroy his life. Cant all daughters do that to their fathers if they so please? Please direct me to a precedent of this? I would guess it is extremely rare. She wont be able to prove it, and if he sues her he'll still be destroyed. Mission accomplished. The fool must have known she would have freaked out by subscribing to her account.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624


No, she cannot do it, you are not allowed to do so. And yes, people DO prove it. She would be able to make up a huge collection of evidence with the story she provided. Witnesses, medical testimony, doctor reports, everything. Sorry, you just want to believe in guilt by accusation, and that is vile.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27300636


Rape can only be proven when the physical evidence is fresh. That's a fact. But the fact that the accusation is a daughter against her father carries alot of weight, more than a woman against her employer, lover, neighbor, etc. The natural bond is too strong for it to be a false accusation. And this woman has absolutely nothing to gain, and will probably jeopardize her career by the southern backlash, re the Dixie Chicks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624


You really don't know what you are talking about. The story she proclaimed would have left all kinds of physical ramifications on her body. Medical check-ups could validate something happened to her (not who did it). And false accusations HAPPEN ALL THE TIME in split families.
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Public record in the divorce of Brie's parents: DIVORCE GRANTED TO WIFE ON GROUNDS OF HABITUAL CRUEL AND INHUMAN TREATMENT. WIFE AWARDED PARAMOUNT CUSTODY OF MINOR CHILDREN AND HUSBAND ORDERED TO PAY CHILD
SUPPORT. FYI, Habitual Cruel and Inhuman treatment is defined: "The conduct of the offending spouse must be so unkind as to be cruel, that is, so unreasonably harsh and severe as to be inhumane, so lacking in human qualities, so unfeeling or brutal as to endanger, or put one in reasonable apprehension of danger to life, limb or health. And finally, such conduct must be habitual, that is, done so often, or continued so long, that its recurrence may be reasonably expected whenever occasion or opportunity presents itself."
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The divorce in 2000. I guess the judge agreed with her accusations at the time...


According to Court of Appeals records, the divorce was granted to (the mother), who filed for the divorce, on grounds of “habitual cruel and inhuman treatment.” (The mother) was awarded custody of their two minor children.

(The father) filed a motion to set aside the judgment, arguing that the chancellor erred in granting the divorce on grounds of habitual cruel and inhuman treatment, and claiming that the judgment did not conform to the parties’ agreement in other respects. Another similar motion was also denied, court records state.
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Public record in the divorce of Brie's parents: DIVORCE GRANTED TO WIFE ON GROUNDS OF HABITUAL CRUEL AND INHUMAN TREATMENT. WIFE AWARDED PARAMOUNT CUSTODY OF MINOR CHILDREN AND HUSBAND ORDERED TO PAY CHILD
SUPPORT. FYI, Habitual Cruel and Inhuman treatment is defined: "The conduct of the offending spouse must be so unkind as to be cruel, that is, so unreasonably harsh and severe as to be inhumane, so lacking in human qualities, so unfeeling or brutal as to endanger, or put one in reasonable apprehension of danger to life, limb or health. And finally, such conduct must be habitual, that is, done so often, or continued so long, that its recurrence may be reasonably expected whenever occasion or opportunity presents itself."
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And that doesn't say "for rape of child." It's not clear what it means. Please, actually think for a change.
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The divorce in 2000. I guess the judge agreed with her accusations at the time...


According to Court of Appeals records, the divorce was granted to (the mother), who filed for the divorce, on grounds of “habitual cruel and inhuman treatment.” (The mother) was awarded custody of their two minor children.

(The father) filed a motion to set aside the judgment, arguing that the chancellor erred in granting the divorce on grounds of habitual cruel and inhuman treatment, and claiming that the judgment did not conform to the parties’ agreement in other respects. Another similar motion was also denied, court records state.

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But that doesn't say there was rape.
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Yup, she can accuse her father and destroy his life. Cant all daughters do that to their fathers if they so please? Please direct me to a precedent of this? I would guess it is extremely rare. She wont be able to prove it, and if he sues her he'll still be destroyed. Mission accomplished. The fool must have known she would have freaked out by subscribing to her account.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624


No, she cannot do it, you are not allowed to do so. And yes, people DO prove it. She would be able to make up a huge collection of evidence with the story she provided. Witnesses, medical testimony, doctor reports, everything. Sorry, you just want to believe in guilt by accusation, and that is vile.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27300636


Rape can only be proven when the physical evidence is fresh. That's a fact. But the fact that the accusation is a daughter against her father carries alot of weight, more than a woman against her employer, lover, neighbor, etc. The natural bond is too strong for it to be a false accusation. And this woman has absolutely nothing to gain, and will probably jeopardize her career by the southern backlash, re the Dixie Chicks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624


You really don't know what you are talking about. The story she proclaimed would have left all kinds of physical ramifications on her body. Medical check-ups could validate something happened to her (not who did it). And false accusations HAPPEN ALL THE TIME in split families.
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Perhaps there is physical evidence such as scaring, only perhaps. Maybe he was gentle. After all she cooperated as much as could. In any case, how do you prove the father did it? You cant. Any college law student would be able to throw out the charges.

So, sorry to say, you dont know what you are talking about.

And no, accusations of daughters accusing their father of rape do not happen all the time. If so, please link me to all those precedents out there. I dont look forward to reading them. But I am confident you will not be able to find them...
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Public record in the divorce of Brie's parents: DIVORCE GRANTED TO WIFE ON GROUNDS OF HABITUAL CRUEL AND INHUMAN TREATMENT. WIFE AWARDED PARAMOUNT CUSTODY OF MINOR CHILDREN AND HUSBAND ORDERED TO PAY CHILD
SUPPORT. FYI, Habitual Cruel and Inhuman treatment is defined: "The conduct of the offending spouse must be so unkind as to be cruel, that is, so unreasonably harsh and severe as to be inhumane, so lacking in human qualities, so unfeeling or brutal as to endanger, or put one in reasonable apprehension of danger to life, limb or health. And finally, such conduct must be habitual, that is, done so often, or continued so long, that its recurrence may be reasonably expected whenever occasion or opportunity presents itself."
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And that doesn't say "for rape of child." It's not clear what it means. Please, actually think for a change.
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If you took the time to find out a little more about the case you would see that it is talking about the cruel and inhuman treatment that the mother received on the hands of this man at the time, you can also see the photos of the black and blue face and body of the wife because of the beatings. And you could also listen carefully at the video where Brie states how she (as a child) was not allowed to testify in court.
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No, she cannot do it, you are not allowed to do so. And yes, people DO prove it. She would be able to make up a huge collection of evidence with the story she provided. Witnesses, medical testimony, doctor reports, everything. Sorry, you just want to believe in guilt by accusation, and that is vile.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27300636


Rape can only be proven when the physical evidence is fresh. That's a fact. But the fact that the accusation is a daughter against her father carries alot of weight, more than a woman against her employer, lover, neighbor, etc. The natural bond is too strong for it to be a false accusation. And this woman has absolutely nothing to gain, and will probably jeopardize her career by the southern backlash, re the Dixie Chicks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624


You really don't know what you are talking about. The story she proclaimed would have left all kinds of physical ramifications on her body. Medical check-ups could validate something happened to her (not who did it). And false accusations HAPPEN ALL THE TIME in split families.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27300636


Perhaps there is physical evidence such as scaring, only perhaps. Maybe he was gentle. After all she cooperated as much as could. In any case, how do you prove the father did it? You cant. Any college law student would be able to throw out the charges.

So, sorry to say, you dont know what you are talking about.

And no, accusations of daughters accusing their father of rape do not happen all the time. If so, please link me to all those precedents out there. I dont look forward to reading them. But I am confident you will not be able to find them...
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She cooperated? Really? that's not what she said. Sorry, you fail. Next.
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This is taken from his statement.

Bresler, 56, who was appointed to council in May, denies all allegations.

“This is crazy, crazy stuff,” said Bresler, who moved to Corry from Gulfport, Miss., in 2003. “It’s absolutely ridiculous. I say categorically it never happened.”


My understanding of word analysis is this is a lie. This is not a denial and the more words he uses to deny means he is lieing.

If my kid accused me of this and someone asked me - i would say did i do this - i would say 'No' Very strongly
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The divorce in 2000. I guess the judge agreed with her accusations at the time...


According to Court of Appeals records, the divorce was granted to (the mother), who filed for the divorce, on grounds of “habitual cruel and inhuman treatment.” (The mother) was awarded custody of their two minor children.

(The father) filed a motion to set aside the judgment, arguing that the chancellor erred in granting the divorce on grounds of habitual cruel and inhuman treatment, and claiming that the judgment did not conform to the parties’ agreement in other respects. Another similar motion was also denied, court records state.

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But that doesn't say there was rape.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27300636


So it comes down to a daughter accusing her father of rape and torture and not being able to prove it. And a father denying it, and being able to legally be safe.

It looks like it is out of both their hands now, though.

"When city officials are made aware of allegations such as these, it is their duty to notify the proper authorities. They have done that," the City Solicitor said.

So will the cops do anything? Will the father make counter charges?
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Public record in the divorce of Brie's parents: DIVORCE GRANTED TO WIFE ON GROUNDS OF HABITUAL CRUEL AND INHUMAN TREATMENT. WIFE AWARDED PARAMOUNT CUSTODY OF MINOR CHILDREN AND HUSBAND ORDERED TO PAY CHILD
SUPPORT. FYI, Habitual Cruel and Inhuman treatment is defined: "The conduct of the offending spouse must be so unkind as to be cruel, that is, so unreasonably harsh and severe as to be inhumane, so lacking in human qualities, so unfeeling or brutal as to endanger, or put one in reasonable apprehension of danger to life, limb or health. And finally, such conduct must be habitual, that is, done so often, or continued so long, that its recurrence may be reasonably expected whenever occasion or opportunity presents itself."
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And that doesn't say "for rape of child." It's not clear what it means. Please, actually think for a change.
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If you took the time to find out a little more about the case you would see that it is talking about the cruel and inhuman treatment that the mother received on the hands of this man at the time, you can also see the photos of the black and blue face and body of the wife because of the beatings. And you could also listen carefully at the video where Brie states how she (as a child) was not allowed to testify in court.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27256146


You mean the photos from her twitter account which we don't know much about but are told they are from this.. again... mentioned before, discussed, explained why they don't prove much on their own.
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Right! if this did happen the mother is complicit and legally responsible as well. End of story!
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That's actually a good point...did the mother know and not pursue it legally (ie. have him locked up) when the divorce was going on? If they managed to have something in the divorce regarding "inhuman" treatment, why wasn't this situation brought to the police then? Unless perhaps the mother did not know the extent of the situation? Hmmm...
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In her story, she said her mother knew and was protecting her; remember, she said her mother went over her to protect her and that is why her mother got beat up. So to the story, her mother knew and protected her. But again, if so, why not do more with prosecutors? I mentioned this before, and was one of many reasons why I feel the story falls apart.
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It's pretty simple.. if the mother knew and did not say anything she is complicit and legally accountable regardless of anything.
"protecting" your child is going to the authorities when you know they are being raped! and if the story is true she saw it happen, I'm sorry this is bullshit!
This happened in the 90's there was plenty of attention and safety nets for child abuse/rapes.

She's got an axe to grind, but she should be careful, her mother will end up in jail now as well.
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Why would she lie?
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Women lie all the time.
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..about their fathers raping them?

i don't think so.
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This is taken from his statement.

Bresler, 56, who was appointed to council in May, denies all allegations.

“This is crazy, crazy stuff,” said Bresler, who moved to Corry from Gulfport, Miss., in 2003. “It’s absolutely ridiculous. I say categorically it never happened.”


My understanding of word analysis is this is a lie. This is not a denial and the more words he uses to deny means he is lieing.

If my kid accused me of this and someone asked me - i would say did i do this - i would say 'No' Very strongly
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What? "I say categorically it never happened." That is as strong a no as is possible.
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Why would she lie?
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Women lie all the time.
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..about their fathers raping them?

i don't think so.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27334788


Yes. It happens, too. Quite often. Heck, here's a case:

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Rape can only be proven when the physical evidence is fresh. That's a fact. But the fact that the accusation is a daughter against her father carries alot of weight, more than a woman against her employer, lover, neighbor, etc. The natural bond is too strong for it to be a false accusation. And this woman has absolutely nothing to gain, and will probably jeopardize her career by the southern backlash, re the Dixie Chicks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624


You really don't know what you are talking about. The story she proclaimed would have left all kinds of physical ramifications on her body. Medical check-ups could validate something happened to her (not who did it). And false accusations HAPPEN ALL THE TIME in split families.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27300636


Perhaps there is physical evidence such as scaring, only perhaps. Maybe he was gentle. After all she cooperated as much as could. In any case, how do you prove the father did it? You cant. Any college law student would be able to throw out the charges.

So, sorry to say, you dont know what you are talking about.

And no, accusations of daughters accusing their father of rape do not happen all the time. If so, please link me to all those precedents out there. I dont look forward to reading them. But I am confident you will not be able to find them...
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She cooperated? Really? that's not what she said. Sorry, you fail. Next.
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Yeah, she cooperated, was as still as can be, quiet as a mouse, drifting to never-never land to escape reality. Didnt you hear her testimony?

Oh I see, you thought I meant she agreed to being tortured and raped. You fail...
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Why would she lie?
 Quoting: Bernard 7437263


Women lie all the time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27217574


..about their fathers raping them?

i don't think so.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27334788


Yes. It happens, too. Quite often. Heck, here's a case:

[link to www.imperfectparent.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27300636


Happens all the time! LOL
Kids today will say anything, I know two girls under 20 who both lied about their father/stepfather to be able to move in with the other parent because they did not like the rules at home.

Both later recanted and apologized and thank gosh! the fathers lives could have been ruined!
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You really don't know what you are talking about. The story she proclaimed would have left all kinds of physical ramifications on her body. Medical check-ups could validate something happened to her (not who did it). And false accusations HAPPEN ALL THE TIME in split families.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27300636


Perhaps there is physical evidence such as scaring, only perhaps. Maybe he was gentle. After all she cooperated as much as could. In any case, how do you prove the father did it? You cant. Any college law student would be able to throw out the charges.

So, sorry to say, you dont know what you are talking about.

And no, accusations of daughters accusing their father of rape do not happen all the time. If so, please link me to all those precedents out there. I dont look forward to reading them. But I am confident you will not be able to find them...
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She cooperated? Really? that's not what she said. Sorry, you fail. Next.
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Yeah, she cooperated, was as still as can be, quiet as a mouse, drifting to never-never land to escape reality. Didnt you hear her testimony?

Oh I see, you thought I meant she agreed to being tortured and raped. You fail...
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Her mother was struggling with her not to let it happen, which is why her mother got beat up - remember? That's what she said. Sorry, you fail. Enough with your trolling.
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You guys are all missing the most critical point LOL
If the mother knew and tried to protect her on her own! she's legally culpable! and participated in the abuse. The correct pathway to go to the police and then CPS would become involved.
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Perhaps there is physical evidence such as scaring, only perhaps. Maybe he was gentle. After all she cooperated as much as could. In any case, how do you prove the father did it? You cant. Any college law student would be able to throw out the charges.

So, sorry to say, you dont know what you are talking about.

And no, accusations of daughters accusing their father of rape do not happen all the time. If so, please link me to all those precedents out there. I dont look forward to reading them. But I am confident you will not be able to find them...
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She cooperated? Really? that's not what she said. Sorry, you fail. Next.
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Yeah, she cooperated, was as still as can be, quiet as a mouse, drifting to never-never land to escape reality. Didnt you hear her testimony?

Oh I see, you thought I meant she agreed to being tortured and raped. You fail...
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Her mother was struggling with her not to let it happen, which is why her mother got beat up - remember? That's what she said. Sorry, you fail. Enough with your trolling.
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I dont know why you are carrying on. According to her testimony she feared being killed by what she saw him do to her mother when she tried to step between them to stop him -- not that she herself was beaten up. It wouldnt take much to intimidate a child into submission, without lifting a finger...
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Re: Beauty guru confesses on Youtube and names father who allegedly raped, tortured her from age 4 - 13, true or false?
Yes. It happens, too. Quite often. Heck, here's a case:

[link to www.imperfectparent.com]
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It Happens ALL THE TIME. LMAO!

So the statistics on this are 1 out of million. Maybe you should try harder to prove your point...
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11/08/2012 06:13 PM
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Re: Beauty guru confesses on Youtube and names father who allegedly raped, tortured her from age 4 - 13, true or false?
Rape can only be proven when the physical evidence is fresh. That's a fact. But the fact that the accusation is a daughter against her father carries alot of weight, more than a woman against her employer, lover, neighbor, etc. The natural bond is too strong for it to be a false accusation. And this woman has absolutely nothing to gain, and will probably jeopardize her career by the southern backlash, re the Dixie Chicks.
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Are we residing on the same planet?
The accusation of rape can be corroborated by witnesses i.e., her mother and brother.


"The bond"? What bond? The semen that was deposited in her mother? This sounds like a highly dysfunctional family hence any bond was probably made out of light gauge string.


"She has absolutely nothing to gain" ????
She gains hits on her YouTube channel which amounts to monetary gain and she gains fame. She'll probably be invited on the Nancy Grace show next (insert eye roll).



I am wondering why in the divorce proceedings why wasn't child-abuse the principle and primary grounds for divorce? Everything else seems irrelevant if your child is being fucked by their father!!

Also being a victim is great for ones stardom career. No one loves a victim-survivor more than a fan!
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Re: Beauty guru confesses on Youtube and names father who allegedly raped, tortured her from age 4 - 13, true or false?
This is taken from his statement.

Bresler, 56, who was appointed to council in May, denies all allegations.

“This is crazy, crazy stuff,” said Bresler, who moved to Corry from Gulfport, Miss., in 2003. “It’s absolutely ridiculous. I say categorically it never happened.”


My understanding of word analysis is this is a lie. This is not a denial and the more words he uses to deny means he is lieing.

If my kid accused me of this and someone asked me - i would say did i do this - i would say 'No' Very strongly
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I know what you're doing and saying but you can't accurately decipher someone via quotes in a newspaper. You have to listen to their voice to pick out any indicators that might lead to deception. This is not the way to do it.

But like I said, I know what you're going after and I concur with your method. Just not the means. Because we all know how ones intonation and effect gets lost through written words especially four times removed (interviewer, writer, editor)
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Re: Beauty guru confesses on Youtube and names father who allegedly raped, tortured her from age 4 - 13, true or false?
Happens all the time! LOL
Kids today will say anything, I know two girls under 20 who both lied about their father/stepfather to be able to move in with the other parent because they did not like the rules at home.

Both later recanted and apologized and thank gosh! the fathers lives could have been ruined!
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Accusing your father of rape does not happen all the time. Where are you getting your stats from?

Sure, kids lie all the time. That's a whole other scenario. And yes, kids try to levee one parent against the other in order to live with the preferred parent but I'll be damned if the average kid screams rape at the age of 27 and posts it on YouTube and shows off her gun collection (One being pink which really tells me something OTHER than it being for protection against her rapist father).
There's no reason to carry or have 3 guns other than for attention. I'm sure the pink gun has been seen by all her friends and boyfriends. It's a show-off piece of equipment. Not a protective piece.
I really think she's full of it.
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Re: Beauty guru confesses on Youtube and names father who allegedly raped, tortured her from age 4 - 13, true or false?
[link to www.salon.com]

Another case

As I pointed out, false memory is an issue: [link to www.katybutler.com]

There are all kinds of concerns: [link to www.deltabravo.net]

Just some more info. It happens, and it is known to happen, and as pointed out by others, often because of some anger for a slight...
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11/08/2012 06:48 PM
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Re: Beauty guru confesses on Youtube and names father who allegedly raped, tortured her from age 4 - 13, true or false?
A divorce was granted for HABITUAL CRUEL AND INHUMAN TREATMENT. A divorce on these grounds is NOT granted lightly, nor are two appeals dismissed, without there existing some very concrete proof that he was a very cruel man and had a proven history of terrible treatment of his wife.

So if he would treat his own wife in a cruel and inhumane manner, proven in court, chances are his children did not escape his INHUMAN behaviour.

Yes you are innocent until proven guilty...one thing you can be sure is he was found guilty of being an extremely cruel man many years ago. This in itself speaks volumes.

Cause I tell you that it is very hard to get a divorce on those grounds without substantial evidence.

Last Edited by taniatarn on 11/08/2012 06:49 PM
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