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The 2nd witness of Revelation 11 is the prince of Israel

 
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42 months has nothing to do with 7 years at the end or tribulation. This is why you dont know what the 2 witnesses/candlesticks are since you dont know when it happened. The passage was fulfilled hundreds of years ago. Claiming it is still future is false christian-zionism scofield theology.
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42 months has nothing to do with 7 years at the end or tribulation. This is why you dont know what the 2 witnesses/candlesticks are since you dont know when it happened. The passage was fulfilled hundreds of years ago. Claiming it is still future is false christian-zionism scofield theology.
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Revelation 2:10

Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.(There is a 42 month period before the 7 year tribulation and to the christians that remain faithful they will escape the last 7 years. NOTICE Revelation 2:10 says some of you shall have tribulation 10 days. To those who remain faithful until the end of the age of grace a rapture will happen before the beginning of the 7 year tribulation..THe key word is some of you will have tribulation 10 days(years)

People are mislead into thinking there are only 7 years of tribulation. Revelation 2:10 tells you it is 10 days representing 10 years not 7. There are 3 sets of 42 months in the tribulation 42months times 2 is the 7 years tribulation but there is another 42 months people can't see and this is the destruction of the united states and the people taken into slavery.

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Soon Brother,
We shall all see The Lord of Glory.

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Soon Brother,
We shall all see The Lord of Glory.

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not soon enough
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42 months has nothing to do with 7 years at the end or tribulation. This is why you dont know what the 2 witnesses/candlesticks are since you dont know when it happened. The passage was fulfilled hundreds of years ago. Claiming it is still future is false christian-zionism scofield theology.
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Revelation 2:10

Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.(There is a 42 month period before the 7 year tribulation and to the christians that remain faithful they will escape the last 7 years. NOTICE Revelation 2:10 says some of you shall have tribulation 10 days. To those who remain faithful until the end of the age of grace a rapture will happen before the beginning of the 7 year tribulation..THe key word is some of you will have tribulation 10 days(years)

People are mislead into thinking there are only 7 years of tribulation. Revelation 2:10 tells you it is 10 days representing 10 years not 7. There are 3 sets of 42 months in the tribulation 42months times 2 is the 7 years tribulation but there is another 42 months people can't see and this is the destruction of the united states and the people taken into slavery.
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In the book of Job. Job had 7 sons and 3 daughters that tribulation came upon(This represents 7 years tribulation and the 3 years or 42 months prior to the 7 year tribulation.) Solomon had 7000 wives and 300 girlfriends again showing 7 being the stronger time of tribulation as wives are more important than girlfriends and daughters aren't as strong as sons, so the first 3 years before the last 7 years of tribulation won't be as afflicting as the last 7 if you have to endure all 10 instead of just 3.

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Sometime very soon one thing will have to happen that God always does before judgement comes on a city, a people, or the world. God always sends a Noah(flood), Lot(sodom and ghomrrah), Johnah(Ninevah)...etc. When you see someone God will raise up to address the nation(United States) that there is no mistaking is a national call to judgemnt that person is Elijah. Know when you hear that judgement is coming quickly and the nation will be destoryed if they people don't repent(what are the chances America won't repent and will turn from their idols..electronics, houses, cars, computers, etc and turn their heart back to God?)
Watch for one to be raised up to address the nation..not someone who gets a million hits on Godlike productions or Youtube it will be a national address that all will see
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The False Witnesses from Revelations are the Mainstream media and Internet.


The 'fire-breathing locusts' are drones...


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The False Witnesses from Revelations are the Mainstream media and Internet.


The 'fire-breathing locusts' are drones...


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They do put out alot of False information but the beast and false prophet will be two of satans greatest servants and are cast into the lake of fire in the end. Idon't think media and internet will be cast into the lake of fire. I think it is the last 2 servants of Satan.
Revelation 19:20:
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
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42 months has nothing to do with 7 years at the end or tribulation. This is why you dont know what the 2 witnesses/candlesticks are since you dont know when it happened. The passage was fulfilled hundreds of years ago. Claiming it is still future is false christian-zionism scofield theology.
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There is a 42 month period before the 7 year tribulation and to the christians that remain faithful they will escape the last 7 years. NOTICE Revelation 2:10 says some of you shall have tribulation 10 days. To those who remain faithful until the end of the age of grace a rapture will happen before the beginning of the 7 year tribulation..THe key word is some of you will have tribulation 10 days(years)

People are mislead into thinking there are only 7 years of tribulation. Revelation 2:10 tells you it is 10 days representing 10 years not 7. There are 3 sets of 42 months in the tribulation 42 months times 2 is the 7 years tribulation but there is another 42 months people can't see and this is the destruction of the united states and the people taken into slavery.
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Again, you first need to find this 42 months in history to know when it all takes place, otherwise it is one big guessing game believed to be in the future somewhere.

The 42 months have traditionally been correctly understood as 1260 days or 1260 years of Rome's dark ages. After this time the two witnesses/candlesticks--the Bible went to all the world.

The word/Bible is a witness unto all the world and light onto the path.

There is no 7 year trib. That comes from Daniel 9's 490 year prophecy which was fulfilled at the time of Jesus.

The two witnesses/candlesticks makes sense once put in history as it should be. Rev 11 & 13 were about the French Revolution. Rev 10 was about the Protestant Reformation. This brings us up today 2000 years from the cross.
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42 months has nothing to do with 7 years at the end or tribulation. This is why you dont know what the 2 witnesses/candlesticks are since you dont know when it happened. The passage was fulfilled hundreds of years ago. Claiming it is still future is false christian-zionism scofield theology.
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There is a 42 month period before the 7 year tribulation and to the christians that remain faithful they will escape the last 7 years. NOTICE Revelation 2:10 says some of you shall have tribulation 10 days. To those who remain faithful until the end of the age of grace a rapture will happen before the beginning of the 7 year tribulation..THe key word is some of you will have tribulation 10 days(years)

People are mislead into thinking there are only 7 years of tribulation. Revelation 2:10 tells you it is 10 days representing 10 years not 7. There are 3 sets of 42 months in the tribulation 42 months times 2 is the 7 years tribulation but there is another 42 months people can't see and this is the destruction of the united states and the people taken into slavery.
 Quoting: waterman


Again, you first need to find this 42 months in history to know when it all takes place, otherwise it is one big guessing game believed to be in the future somewhere.

The 42 months have traditionally been correctly understood as 1260 days or 1260 years of Rome's dark ages. After this time the two witnesses/candlesticks--the Bible went to all the world.

The word/Bible is a witness unto all the world and light onto the path.

There is no 7 year trib. That comes from Daniel 9's 490 year prophecy which was fulfilled at the time of Jesus.

The two witnesses/candlesticks makes sense once put in history as it should be. Rev 11 & 13 were about the French Revolution. Rev 10 was about the Protestant Reformation. This brings us up today 2000 years from the cross.
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America was blessed with all these blessings in Deut. 28. Now American has turned away form God and will receive the curses:

Deuteronomy 28

Blessings on Obedience

28 “Now it shall come to pass, if you diligently obey the voice of the Lord your God, to observe carefully all His commandments which I command you today, that the Lord your God will set you high above all nations of the earth. 2 And all these blessings shall come upon you and overtake you, because you obey the voice of the Lord your God:

3 “Blessed shall you be in the city, and blessed shall you be in the country.

4 “Blessed shall be the fruit of your body, the produce of your ground and the increase of your herds, the increase of your cattle and the offspring of your flocks.

5 “Blessed shall be your basket and your kneading bowl.

6 “Blessed shall you be when you come in, and blessed shall you be when you go out.

7 “The Lord will cause your enemies who rise against you to be defeated before your face; they shall come out against you one way and flee before you seven ways.

8 “The Lord will command the blessing on you in your storehouses and in all to which you set your hand, and He will bless you in the land which the Lord your God is giving you.

9 “The Lord will establish you as a holy people to Himself, just as He has sworn to you, if you keep the commandments of the Lord your God and walk in His ways. 10 Then all peoples of the earth shall see that you are called by the name of the Lord, and they shall be afraid of you. 11 And the Lord will grant you plenty of goods, in the fruit of your body, in the increase of your livestock, and in the produce of your ground, in the land of which the Lord swore to your fathers to give you. 12 The Lord will open to you His good treasure, the heavens, to give the rain to your land in its season, and to bless all the work of your hand. You shall lend to many nations, but you shall not borrow. 13 And the Lord will make you the head and not the tail; you shall be above only, and not be beneath, if you heed the commandments of the Lord your God, which I command you today, and are careful to observe them. 14 So you shall not turn aside from any of the words which I command you this day, to the right or the left, to go after other gods to serve them.
Curses on Disobedience

15 “But it shall come to pass, if you do not obey the voice of the Lord your God, to observe carefully all His commandments and His statutes which I command you today, that all these curses will come upon you and overtake you:

16 “Cursed shall you be in the city, and cursed shall you be in the country.

17 “Cursed shall be your basket and your kneading bowl.

18 “Cursed shall be the fruit of your body and the produce of your land, the increase of your cattle and the offspring of your flocks.

19 “Cursed shall you be when you come in, and cursed shall you be when you go out.

20 “The Lord will send on you cursing, confusion, and rebuke in all that you set your hand to do, until you are destroyed and until you perish quickly, because of the wickedness of your doings in which you have forsaken Me. 21 The Lord will make the plague cling to you until He has consumed you from the land which you are going to possess. 22 The Lord will strike you with consumption, with fever, with inflammation, with severe burning fever, with the sword, with scorching, and with mildew; they shall pursue you until you perish. 23 And your heavens which are over your head shall be bronze, and the earth which is under you shall be iron. 24 The Lord will change the rain of your land to powder and dust; from the heaven it shall come down on you until you are destroyed.

25 “The Lord will cause you to be defeated before your enemies; you shall go out one way against them and flee seven ways before them; and you shall become troublesome to all the kingdoms of the earth. 26 Your carcasses shall be food for all the birds of the air and the beasts of the earth, and no one shall frighten them away. 27 The Lord will strike you with the boils of Egypt, with tumors, with the scab, and with the itch, from which you cannot be healed. 28 The Lord will strike you with madness and blindness and confusion of heart. 29 And you shall grope at noonday, as a blind man gropes in darkness; you shall not prosper in your ways; you shall be only oppressed and plundered continually, and no one shall save you.

30 “You shall betroth a wife, but another man shall lie with her; you shall build a house, but you shall not dwell in it; you shall plant a vineyard, but shall not gather its grapes. 31 Your ox shall be slaughtered before your eyes, but you shall not eat of it; your donkey shall be violently taken away from before you, and shall not be restored to you; your sheep shall be given to your enemies, and you shall have no one to rescue them. 32 Your sons and your daughters shall be given to another people, and your eyes shall look and fail with longing for them all day long; and there shall be no strength in your hand. 33 A nation whom you have not known shall eat the fruit of your land and the produce of your labor, and you shall be only oppressed and crushed continually. 34 So you shall be driven mad because of the sight which your eyes see. 35 The Lord will strike you in the knees and on the legs with severe boils which cannot be healed, and from the sole of your foot to the top of your head.

36 “The Lord will bring you and the king whom you set over you to a nation which neither you nor your fathers have known, and there you shall serve other gods—wood and stone. 37 And you shall become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword among all nations where the Lord will drive you.

38 “You shall carry much seed out to the field but gather little in, for the locust shall consume it. 39 You shall plant vineyards and tend them, but you shall neither drink of the wine nor gather the grapes; for the worms shall eat them. 40 You shall have olive trees throughout all your territory, but you shall not anoint yourself with the oil; for your olives shall drop off. 41 You shall beget sons and daughters, but they shall not be yours; for they shall go into captivity. 42 Locusts shall consume all your trees and the produce of your land.

43 “The alien who is among you shall rise higher and higher above you, and you shall come down lower and lower. 44 He shall lend to you, but you shall not lend to him; he shall be the head, and you shall be the tail.

45 “Moreover all these curses shall come upon you and pursue and overtake you, until you are destroyed, because you did not obey the voice of the Lord your God, to keep His commandments and His statutes which He commanded you. 46 And they shall be upon you for a sign and a wonder, and on your descendants forever.

47 “Because you did not serve the Lord your God with joy and gladness of heart, for the abundance of everything, 48 therefore you shall serve your enemies, whom the Lord will send against you, in hunger, in thirst, in nakedness, and in need of everything; and He will put a yoke of iron on your neck until He has destroyed you. 49 The Lord will bring a nation against you from afar, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flies, a nation whose language you will not understand, 50 a nation of fierce countenance, which does not respect the elderly nor show favor to the young. 51 And they shall eat the increase of your livestock and the produce of your land, until you are destroyed; they shall not leave you grain or new wine or oil, or the increase of your cattle or the offspring of your flocks, until they have destroyed you.

52 “They shall besiege you at all your gates until your high and fortified walls, in which you trust, come down throughout all your land; and they shall besiege you at all your gates throughout all your land which the Lord your God has given you. 53 You shall eat the fruit of your own body, the flesh of your sons and your daughters whom the Lord your God has given you, in the siege and desperate straits in which your enemy shall distress you. 54 The sensitive and very refined man among you will be hostile toward his brother, toward the wife of his bosom, and toward the rest of his children whom he leaves behind, 55 so that he will not give any of them the flesh of his children whom he will eat, because he has nothing left in the siege and desperate straits in which your enemy shall distress you at all your gates. 56 The tender and delicate woman among you, who would not venture to set the sole of her foot on the ground because of her delicateness and sensitivity, will refuse[a] to the husband of her bosom, and to her son and her daughter, 57 her placenta which comes out from between her feet and her children whom she bears; for she will eat them secretly for lack of everything in the siege and desperate straits in which your enemy shall distress you at all your gates.

58 “If you do not carefully observe all the words of this law that are written in this book, that you may fear this glorious and awesome name, THE LORD YOUR GOD, 59 then the Lord will bring upon you and your descendants extraordinary plagues—great and prolonged plagues—and serious and prolonged sicknesses. 60 Moreover He will bring back on you all the diseases of Egypt, of which you were afraid, and they shall cling to you. 61 Also every sickness and every plague, which is not written in this Book of the Law, will the Lord bring upon you until you are destroyed. 62 You shall be left few in number, whereas you were as the stars of heaven in multitude, because you would not obey the voice of the Lord your God. 63 And it shall be, that just as the Lord rejoiced over you to do you good and multiply you, so the Lord will rejoice over you to destroy you and bring you to nothing; and you shall be plucked from off the land which you go to possess.

64 “Then the Lord will scatter you among all peoples, from one end of the earth to the other, and there you shall serve other gods, which neither you nor your fathers have known—wood and stone. 65 And among those nations you shall find no rest, nor shall the sole of your foot have a resting place; but there the Lord will give you a trembling heart, failing eyes, and anguish of soul. 66 Your life shall hang in doubt before you; you shall fear day and night, and have no assurance of life. 67 In the morning you shall say, ‘Oh, that it were evening!’ And at evening you shall say, ‘Oh, that it were morning!’ because of the fear which terrifies your heart, and because of the sight which your eyes see.

68 “And the Lord will take you back to Egypt in ships, by the way of which I said to you, ‘You shall never see it again.’ And there you shall be offered for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but no one will buy you.”

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42 months has nothing to do with 7 years at the end or tribulation. This is why you dont know what the 2 witnesses/candlesticks are since you dont know when it happened. The passage was fulfilled hundreds of years ago. Claiming it is still future is false christian-zionism scofield theology.
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There is a 42 month period before the 7 year tribulation and to the christians that remain faithful they will escape the last 7 years. NOTICE Revelation 2:10 says "some" of you shall have tribulation 10 days. To those who remain faithful until the end of the age of grace a rapture will happen before the beginning of the 7 year tribulation..THe key word is "some" of you will have tribulation 10 days(years)

People are mislead into thinking there are only 7 years of tribulation. Revelation 2:10 tells you it is 10 days representing 10 years not 7. There are 3 sets of 42 months in the tribulation 42 months times 2 is the 7 years tribulation but there is another 42 months people can't see and this is the destruction of the united states and the people taken into slavery.
 Quoting: waterman


Again, you first need to find this 42 months in history to know when it all takes place, otherwise it is one big guessing game believed to be in the future somewhere.

The 42 months have traditionally been correctly understood as 1260 days or 1260 years of Rome's dark ages. After this time the two witnesses/candlesticks--the Bible went to all the world.

The word/Bible is a witness unto all the world and light onto the path.

There is no 7 year trib. That comes from Daniel 9's 490 year prophecy which was fulfilled at the time of Jesus.

The two witnesses/candlesticks makes sense once put in history as it should be. Rev 11 & 13 were about the French Revolution. Rev 10 was about the Protestant Reformation. This brings us up today 2000 years from the cross.
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America was blessed with all these blessings in Deut. 28. Now American has turned away form God and will receive the curses:

Deuteronomy 28

Blessings on Obedience

28 “Now it shall come to pass, if you diligently obey the voice of the Lord your God, to observe carefully all His commandments which I command you today, that the Lord your God will set you high above all nations of the earth. 2 And all these blessings shall come upon you and overtake you, because you obey the voice of the Lord your God:

3 “Blessed shall you be in the city, and blessed shall you be in the country.

4 “Blessed shall be the fruit of your body, the produce of your ground and the increase of your herds, the increase of your cattle and the offspring of your flocks.

5 “Blessed shall be your basket and your kneading bowl.

6 “Blessed shall you be when you come in, and blessed shall you be when you go out.

7 “The Lord will cause your enemies who rise against you to be defeated before your face; they shall come out against you one way and flee before you seven ways.

8 “The Lord will command the blessing on you in your storehouses and in all to which you set your hand, and He will bless you in the land which the Lord your God is giving you.

9 “The Lord will establish you as a holy people to Himself, just as He has sworn to you, if you keep the commandments of the Lord your God and walk in His ways. 10 Then all peoples of the earth shall see that you are called by the name of the Lord, and they shall be afraid of you. 11 And the Lord will grant you plenty of goods, in the fruit of your body, in the increase of your livestock, and in the produce of your ground, in the land of which the Lord swore to your fathers to give you. 12 The Lord will open to you His good treasure, the heavens, to give the rain to your land in its season, and to bless all the work of your hand. You shall lend to many nations, but you shall not borrow. 13 And the Lord will make you the head and not the tail; you shall be above only, and not be beneath, if you heed the commandments of the Lord your God, which I command you today, and are careful to observe them. 14 So you shall not turn aside from any of the words which I command you this day, to the right or the left, to go after other gods to serve them.
Curses on Disobedience

15 “But it shall come to pass, if you do not obey the voice of the Lord your God, to observe carefully all His commandments and His statutes which I command you today, that all these curses will come upon you and overtake you:

16 “Cursed shall you be in the city, and cursed shall you be in the country.

17 “Cursed shall be your basket and your kneading bowl.

18 “Cursed shall be the fruit of your body and the produce of your land, the increase of your cattle and the offspring of your flocks.

19 “Cursed shall you be when you come in, and cursed shall you be when you go out.

20 “The Lord will send on you cursing, confusion, and rebuke in all that you set your hand to do, until you are destroyed and until you perish quickly, because of the wickedness of your doings in which you have forsaken Me. 21 The Lord will make the plague cling to you until He has consumed you from the land which you are going to possess. 22 The Lord will strike you with consumption, with fever, with inflammation, with severe burning fever, with the sword, with scorching, and with mildew; they shall pursue you until you perish. 23 And your heavens which are over your head shall be bronze, and the earth which is under you shall be iron. 24 The Lord will change the rain of your land to powder and dust; from the heaven it shall come down on you until you are destroyed.

25 “The Lord will cause you to be defeated before your enemies; you shall go out one way against them and flee seven ways before them; and you shall become troublesome to all the kingdoms of the earth. 26 Your carcasses shall be food for all the birds of the air and the beasts of the earth, and no one shall frighten them away. 27 The Lord will strike you with the boils of Egypt, with tumors, with the scab, and with the itch, from which you cannot be healed. 28 The Lord will strike you with madness and blindness and confusion of heart. 29 And you shall grope at noonday, as a blind man gropes in darkness; you shall not prosper in your ways; you shall be only oppressed and plundered continually, and no one shall save you.

30 “You shall betroth a wife, but another man shall lie with her; you shall build a house, but you shall not dwell in it; you shall plant a vineyard, but shall not gather its grapes. 31 Your ox shall be slaughtered before your eyes, but you shall not eat of it; your donkey shall be violently taken away from before you, and shall not be restored to you; your sheep shall be given to your enemies, and you shall have no one to rescue them. 32 Your sons and your daughters shall be given to another people, and your eyes shall look and fail with longing for them all day long; and there shall be no strength in your hand. 33 A nation whom you have not known shall eat the fruit of your land and the produce of your labor, and you shall be only oppressed and crushed continually. 34 So you shall be driven mad because of the sight which your eyes see. 35 The Lord will strike you in the knees and on the legs with severe boils which cannot be healed, and from the sole of your foot to the top of your head.

36 “The Lord will bring you and the king whom you set over you to a nation which neither you nor your fathers have known, and there you shall serve other gods—wood and stone. 37 And you shall become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword among all nations where the Lord will drive you.

38 “You shall carry much seed out to the field but gather little in, for the locust shall consume it. 39 You shall plant vineyards and tend them, but you shall neither drink of the wine nor gather the grapes; for the worms shall eat them. 40 You shall have olive trees throughout all your territory, but you shall not anoint yourself with the oil; for your olives shall drop off. 41 You shall beget sons and daughters, but they shall not be yours; for they shall go into captivity. 42 Locusts shall consume all your trees and the produce of your land.

43 “The alien who is among you shall rise higher and higher above you, and you shall come down lower and lower. 44 He shall lend to you, but you shall not lend to him; he shall be the head, and you shall be the tail.

45 “Moreover all these curses shall come upon you and pursue and overtake you, until you are destroyed, because you did not obey the voice of the Lord your God, to keep His commandments and His statutes which He commanded you. 46 And they shall be upon you for a sign and a wonder, and on your descendants forever.

47 “Because you did not serve the Lord your God with joy and gladness of heart, for the abundance of everything, 48 therefore you shall serve your enemies, whom the Lord will send against you, in hunger, in thirst, in nakedness, and in need of everything; and He will put a yoke of iron on your neck until He has destroyed you. 49 The Lord will bring a nation against you from afar, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flies, a nation whose language you will not understand, 50 a nation of fierce countenance, which does not respect the elderly nor show favor to the young. 51 And they shall eat the increase of your livestock and the produce of your land, until you are destroyed; they shall not leave you grain or new wine or oil, or the increase of your cattle or the offspring of your flocks, until they have destroyed you.

52 “They shall besiege you at all your gates until your high and fortified walls, in which you trust, come down throughout all your land; and they shall besiege you at all your gates throughout all your land which the Lord your God has given you. 53 You shall eat the fruit of your own body, the flesh of your sons and your daughters whom the Lord your God has given you, in the siege and desperate straits in which your enemy shall distress you. 54 The sensitive and very refined man among you will be hostile toward his brother, toward the wife of his bosom, and toward the rest of his children whom he leaves behind, 55 so that he will not give any of them the flesh of his children whom he will eat, because he has nothing left in the siege and desperate straits in which your enemy shall distress you at all your gates. 56 The tender and delicate woman among you, who would not venture to set the sole of her foot on the ground because of her delicateness and sensitivity, will refuse[a] to the husband of her bosom, and to her son and her daughter, 57 her placenta which comes out from between her feet and her children whom she bears; for she will eat them secretly for lack of everything in the siege and desperate straits in which your enemy shall distress you at all your gates.

58 “If you do not carefully observe all the words of this law that are written in this book, that you may fear this glorious and awesome name, THE LORD YOUR GOD, 59 then the Lord will bring upon you and your descendants extraordinary plagues—great and prolonged plagues—and serious and prolonged sicknesses. 60 Moreover He will bring back on you all the diseases of Egypt, of which you were afraid, and they shall cling to you. 61 Also every sickness and every plague, which is not written in this Book of the Law, will the Lord bring upon you until you are destroyed. 62 You shall be left few in number, whereas you were as the stars of heaven in multitude, because you would not obey the voice of the Lord your God. 63 And it shall be, that just as the Lord rejoiced over you to do you good and multiply you, so the Lord will rejoice over you to destroy you and bring you to nothing; and you shall be plucked from off the land which you go to possess.

64 “Then the Lord will scatter you among all peoples, from one end of the earth to the other, and there you shall serve other gods, which neither you nor your fathers have known—wood and stone. 65 And among those nations you shall find no rest, nor shall the sole of your foot have a resting place; but there the Lord will give you a trembling heart, failing eyes, and anguish of soul. 66 Your life shall hang in doubt before you; you shall fear day and night, and have no assurance of life. 67 In the morning you shall say, ‘Oh, that it were evening!’ And at evening you shall say, ‘Oh, that it were morning!’ because of the fear which terrifies your heart, and because of the sight which your eyes see.

68 “And the Lord will take you back to Egypt in ships, by the way of which I said to you, ‘You shall never see it again.’ And there you shall be offered for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but no one will buy you.”
 Quoting: waterman


Revelation 2:10(End times event, not past event)

10 Do not fear any of those things which you are about to suffer. Indeed, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, that you may be tested, and you will have tribulation ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life.

God can't lie. He said if you are obedient you will get those blessing but when you stop being obedient you have to get the curses. The punishment for disobedience comes 42 months prior to the 7 years. The united states has fallen away from God and will see this curse of the nation being destroyed and the people taken into captivity because God can't lie. Now those who remain faithful will not go through the 7 year tribulation but how many will be faithful servants when they go through the 42 months of slavery and think God has forsaken them because the message of the church today is: Don't worry about a thing your not gonna see one second of any tribulation. People Jesus said Himself: John 16:33:
These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world. Christians are gonna have a 42 month period of tribulation before the end of the age of grace but those who remain faithful to Jesus will not see the 7 year tribulation and the time that Satan is cast down to the earth.

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Then I was given a reed like a measuring rod. (12,000 miles N. pole to S. pole)
And the angel stood, saying, “Rise and measure the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there. (The Measurements are 12,000 x 12,000, The number who worship there is 12,000 x 12,000 = 144,000,000 all the Earth declares the Glory Of The Lord) But leave out the court (144 cubits = 144 divided by 18 (666) = 8 the number of the Beast) which is outside the temple, (Christ was crucified outside the City)(Flesh and blood cannot inherit The Kingdom of God….THIS IS WHY JESUS NEEDED TO BE KILLED OUTSIDE JERUSALEM) and do not measure it, for it has been given to the Gentiles. (Fallen mankind) And they will tread the holy city underfoot for forty-two months. (42 generations from Abraham the Father of FAITH till Jesus Christ)
And I will give power (Authority) to my two witnesses, (Christ and the new Covenant of “LOVE LOVE”) and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth.” (42 generations dressed in humility)

These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands standing before the God of the earth.. (Zechariah 4) And if anyone wants to harm them, fire proceeds from their mouth (The Holy Ghost filled TONGUE is the most potent weapon) and devours their enemies. And if anyone wants to harm them, he must be killed in this manner. (If Christians really want to defeat the devil it MUST be through The Spirit of God alone!) These have power to shut heaven, (Yes, but The Door is now wide open!) so that no rain (No revival) falls in the days of their prophecy; (Revival is here now because the Testator has risen from the grave!) and they have power over waters to turn them to blood, (Jesus has all power over the waters/ the world) and to strike the earth with all plagues, as often as they desire.


“WHEN JESUS CHRIST FINISHED HIS TESTIMONY THE PROPHECY OF DANIEL 2 BEGINS TO UNFOLD AS HE LAYS HIMSELF DOWN AS A LIVING SACRIFICE FOR ALL MANKIND”

(“THEY” ARE CHRIST AND THE NEW COVENANT of “The Father” of DOUBLE “LOVE” “LOVE”)


When they (HE) finish their (HIS) testimony, the beast (Principalities and powers) that ascends out of the bottomless pit (Hades) will make war against them, (HIM) overcome them, (HIM) and kill them. (HIM) And their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city (HADES/ EARTH) which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, (Sin and Death) where also our Lord was crucified. (After death on the Cross Jesus Christ descended to HADES, the following describes >>>>) Then those from the peoples, tribes, tongues, and nations will see their dead bodies three-and-a-half days, and not allow their dead bodies

to be put into graves. (<<<< The previous is happening in HADES) (The following is happening on Earth>>>>>) And those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them, make merry, and send gifts to one another, because these two prophets (Double LOVE is double trouble for the flesh) tormented those who dwell on the earth.

Now after the three-and-a-half days the breath of life from God entered them,(HIM) and they (HE) stood on their feet, and great fear fell on those who saw them. (The Victory of The Resurrection) And they (Christ and “HIS NEW COVENANT”) heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” And they ascended to heaven in a cloud, and their enemies saw them. In the same hour there was a great earthquake, (The new Covenant was in a twinkling of an eye “Imprinted into the heart of every man”) and a tenth of the city fell. (ONE TENTH IS THE FIRST COMMANDMENT OF “LOVE”) In the earthquake seven thousand people (Five have fallen, One IS, one must be a short time, (<<< 7) and the EIGHTH IS HIMSELF THE BEAST) were killed, (“IT IS FINISHED”) and the rest (Mankind) were afraid and gave glory to the God of heaven. (Repented)

The second woe is past. Behold, the third woe is coming quickly.

Then the seventh angel (Jesus Christ The Lion Of Judah) sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!” (Modern theology has put up a “FAKE” barrier that has blinded us all to The “FAITH WITH NO BARRIERS” The Father desires us to live by FAITH daily) And the twenty-four elders who sat before God on their thrones fell on their faces and worshiped God, saying:
“We give You thanks, O Lord God Almighty,
The One who is and who was and who is to come,
Because You have taken Your great power and reigned. (We are more than conquers)
The nations were angry, and Your wrath has come, (Jesus our LORD has taken the beating for us)
And the time of the dead, that they should be judged, (The old nature was judged on Calvary)
And that You should reward Your servants the prophets and the saints, (We live forever with Him)
And those who fear Your name, small and great, (Enter in at The Straight Gate, anyone can who believes)
And should destroy those who destroy the earth.” (Daniel 2)
Then the temple of God (CHRIST) was opened (Was revealed) in heaven, and the ark of His covenant (Jesus Christ The Son Of DOUBLE “LOVE, LOVE”) was seen in His temple. (You and me Christian are His TEMPLE of “LOVE, LOVE”) And there were lightnings, noises, thunderings, an earthquake, and great hail. (<<<< And these signs shall follow those who believe)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21195758


Hallelujah Jesus is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords and is the only Savior that can save you by what he did on the cross but all your red highlights did you notice you changed all of the "theys" and "thems" being plural as in two into "Hims" and "His" you can't change scripture from plural to singular to fit your way of thinking, and Jesus never laid in the street. Jesus was in a tomb, those two witnesses lay in the street. The "no rain" in actual no rain why would the people of the earth be angry there was no "revival" being the rain....the world hates revival. The plagues are actual plagues that is why the world rejoices when these two are dead, laying in the street.

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FIRSTBORN MAN ADAM

1.Adam=firstborn of Jesus.
2.Eve is brought forth from Adam by being taken out of Adam.

NATION ISRAEL FIRSTBORN

Exodus 4:22
22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the Lord, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:

Adam firstborn son
Israel firstborn son

Eve is separated and brought forth from Adam
Israel separates after king solomon into 2 kingdoms

Northern kingdom made up of 10 tribes called Israel
Southern kingdom made up of 2 tribes called Judah


The records of what happened to Adam are reported died 970 years old.

The records of where Eve went not recorded..never heard about her death or what happened to her.

Israel(Northern 10 tribes) was invaded by the Assyrians and taken into captivity and never heard from again(Just like Eve)

Judah(southern 2 tribes) was invaded by babylonians but 70 years later regrouped and are geographical Israel today(We know what happened to them just like we know what happened to Adam)

Eve represents Northern 10 tribes(Israel)
Adam represent Southern 2 tribes(Judah)

In the end both southern and northern kingdoms are re-united and spiritually become one

Just as the two witnesses become of one spirit and are seated on the left and right of Jesus in the kingdom
Here is the purpose of Adam and Eve:
Gen 1:28:
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth


So 5 things Adam and Eve are called to do

1.Fruitful
2.Multiply
3.Replenish Earth
4.Subdue Earth
5.Dominion over every living thing that moves on Earth


We know God does not take back gifts and callings:
Romans 11:29
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance


Eve was brought forth from Adam so that the first 3 could be accomplished(Fruitful, Multiply, Replenish)

Adam and Eve had children so the kingdom of God could come to be.

There is a pattern in the bible. Physical is shown first then the spiritual.

Adam and Eve had physical children, so that they could become spiritual temples of God

Wanna know how the story of the bible end look at the beginning of the book to see the end.

Isaiah 46:10:
Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

Adam and Eve were male and female in the beginning for the purpose of multiplying and replenishing the Earth.

Adam and Eve in the end are shown as the two witnesses is Revelation and in Zechariah as Joshua and Zerubabbel builders of the spiritual temple, children of God When you accept Jesus Christ as Lord and savior you become the spiritual temple of God. The message of These Adam and Eve type witnesses will bring forth the spiritual children of the 7 year tribulation.
 Quoting: waterman


So we see from this that Adam and Eve have dominion over everything that moves on earth, that would include their children: (This Adam and Eve are the two witnesses of revelation and zechariah(Joshua and Zerubabbel) the builders of the temple(kingdom)
do·min·ion

noun
1.
the power or right of governing and controlling; sovereign authority.
2.
rule; control; domination.
3.
a territory, usually of considerable size, in which a single rulership holds sway.
4.
lands or domains subject to sovereignty or control.


The dominion here will be parents to children relationship, not "I'm ruler and your follower" relationship, because the people of the world are the children of Adam and Eve and you can see the pattern of Israel splitting apart after king solomons reign just like Adam and Eve split apart, but in the end they become one again.
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FIRSTBORN MAN ADAM

1.Adam=firstborn of Jesus.
2.Eve is brought forth from Adam by being taken out of Adam.

NATION ISRAEL FIRSTBORN

Exodus 4:22
22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the Lord, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:

Adam firstborn son
Israel firstborn son

Eve is separated and brought forth from Adam
Israel separates after king solomon into 2 kingdoms

Northern kingdom made up of 10 tribes called Israel
Southern kingdom made up of 2 tribes called Judah


The records of what happened to Adam are reported died 970 years old.

The records of where Eve went not recorded..never heard about her death or what happened to her.

Israel(Northern 10 tribes) was invaded by the Assyrians and taken into captivity and never heard from again(Just like Eve)

Judah(southern 2 tribes) was invaded by babylonians but 70 years later regrouped and are geographical Israel today(We know what happened to them just like we know what happened to Adam)

Eve represents Northern 10 tribes(Israel)
Adam represent Southern 2 tribes(Judah)

In the end both southern and northern kingdoms are re-united and spiritually become one

Just as the two witnesses become of one spirit and are seated on the left and right of Jesus in the kingdom
Here is the purpose of Adam and Eve:
Gen 1:28:
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth


So 5 things Adam and Eve are called to do

1.Fruitful
2.Multiply
3.Replenish Earth
4.Subdue Earth
5.Dominion over every living thing that moves on Earth


We know God does not take back gifts and callings:
Romans 11:29
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance


Eve was brought forth from Adam so that the first 3 could be accomplished(Fruitful, Multiply, Replenish)

Adam and Eve had children so the kingdom of God could come to be.

There is a pattern in the bible. Physical is shown first then the spiritual.

Adam and Eve had physical children, so that they could become spiritual temples of God

Wanna know how the story of the bible end look at the beginning of the book to see the end.

Isaiah 46:10:
Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

Adam and Eve were male and female in the beginning for the purpose of multiplying and replenishing the Earth.

Adam and Eve in the end are shown as the two witnesses is Revelation and in Zechariah as Joshua and Zerubabbel builders of the spiritual temple, children of God When you accept Jesus Christ as Lord and savior you become the spiritual temple of God. The message of These Adam and Eve type witnesses will bring forth the spiritual children of the 7 year tribulation.
 Quoting: waterman


So we see from this that Adam and Eve have dominion over everything that moves on earth, that would include their children: (This Adam and Eve are the two witnesses of revelation and zechariah(Joshua and Zerubabbel) the builders of the temple(kingdom)
do·min·ion

noun
1.
the power or right of governing and controlling; sovereign authority.
2.
rule; control; domination.
3.
a territory, usually of considerable size, in which a single rulership holds sway.
4.
lands or domains subject to sovereignty or control.


The dominion here will be parents to children relationship, not "I'm ruler and your follower" relationship, because the people of the world are the children of Adam and Eve and you can see the pattern of Israel splitting apart after king solomons reign just like Adam and Eve split apart, but in the end they become one again.
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Very insightful interpretation. So many avenues lay beneath the surface of God's Word, but are seldom discovered. Many listen to the same old traditions of explanations, but fail to grasp a deeper meaning of the spiritual understanding. Such hearing through physical means, nullifies the spiritual application. So we believe what has been told, but never render unto God those things that reveal a deeper purpose. Thus through this process the true meaning of the last days can be exposed. Traditional meanings must make way for these times. The Word must be discerned by the Spirit after this manner or new revelations for our times will remain hidden. Following old meanings were pertinent for there times, but now we must perceive the Word for these times. This interpretation I believe is an example of doing just that!
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This is a perfect example of correct leadership. A parent leading his/her child in love, never lords it over the child. The child in the same manner never feels resentment against the leadership of a loving parent. This is the example of all true Christians in their eternal, blissful, resting place with the Father. Guidance through love, teaching leadership as kings and priest.
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The Blood ran up to the horses bridles for 1600 furlongs.

Revelation 14:20;

1600 furlongs. David Chilton, in his book, Days of Vengeance, page 376, notes that 1600 furlongs is the length of literal Israel, as measured by Rome during the time of the apostles.
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Then I was given a reed like a measuring rod. (12,000 miles N. pole to S. pole)
And the angel stood, saying, “Rise and measure the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there. (The Measurements are 12,000 x 12,000, The number who worship there is 12,000 x 12,000 = 144,000,000 all the Earth declares the Glory Of The Lord) But leave out the court (144 cubits = 144 divided by 18 (666) = 8 the number of the Beast) which is outside the temple, (Christ was crucified outside the City)(Flesh and blood cannot inherit The Kingdom of God….THIS IS WHY JESUS NEEDED TO BE KILLED OUTSIDE JERUSALEM) and do not measure it, for it has been given to the Gentiles. (Fallen mankind) And they will tread the holy city underfoot for forty-two months. (42 generations from Abraham the Father of FAITH till Jesus Christ)
And I will give power (Authority) to my two witnesses, (Christ and the new Covenant of “LOVE LOVE”) and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth.” (42 generations dressed in humility)

These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands standing before the God of the earth.. (Zechariah 4) And if anyone wants to harm them, fire proceeds from their mouth (The Holy Ghost filled TONGUE is the most potent weapon) and devours their enemies. And if anyone wants to harm them, he must be killed in this manner. (If Christians really want to defeat the devil it MUST be through The Spirit of God alone!) These have power to shut heaven, (Yes, but The Door is now wide open!) so that no rain (No revival) falls in the days of their prophecy; (Revival is here now because the Testator has risen from the grave!) and they have power over waters to turn them to blood, (Jesus has all power over the waters/ the world) and to strike the earth with all plagues, as often as they desire.


“WHEN JESUS CHRIST FINISHED HIS TESTIMONY THE PROPHECY OF DANIEL 2 BEGINS TO UNFOLD AS HE LAYS HIMSELF DOWN AS A LIVING SACRIFICE FOR ALL MANKIND”

(“THEY” ARE CHRIST AND THE NEW COVENANT of “The Father” of DOUBLE “LOVE” “LOVE”)


When they (HE) finish their (HIS) testimony, the beast (Principalities and powers) that ascends out of the bottomless pit (Hades) will make war against them, (HIM) overcome them, (HIM) and kill them. (HIM) And their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city (HADES/ EARTH) which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, (Sin and Death) where also our Lord was crucified. (After death on the Cross Jesus Christ descended to HADES, the following describes >>>>) Then those from the peoples, tribes, tongues, and nations will see their dead bodies three-and-a-half days, and not allow their dead bodies

to be put into graves. (<<<< The previous is happening in HADES) (The following is happening on Earth>>>>>) And those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them, make merry, and send gifts to one another, because these two prophets (Double LOVE is double trouble for the flesh) tormented those who dwell on the earth.

Now after the three-and-a-half days the breath of life from God entered them,(HIM) and they (HE) stood on their feet, and great fear fell on those who saw them. (The Victory of The Resurrection) And they (Christ and “HIS NEW COVENANT”) heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” And they ascended to heaven in a cloud, and their enemies saw them. In the same hour there was a great earthquake, (The new Covenant was in a twinkling of an eye “Imprinted into the heart of every man”) and a tenth of the city fell. (ONE TENTH IS THE FIRST COMMANDMENT OF “LOVE”) In the earthquake seven thousand people (Five have fallen, One IS, one must be a short time, (<<< 7) and the EIGHTH IS HIMSELF THE BEAST) were killed, (“IT IS FINISHED”) and the rest (Mankind) were afraid and gave glory to the God of heaven. (Repented)

The second woe is past. Behold, the third woe is coming quickly.

Then the seventh angel (Jesus Christ The Lion Of Judah) sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!” (Modern theology has put up a “FAKE” barrier that has blinded us all to The “FAITH WITH NO BARRIERS” The Father desires us to live by FAITH daily) And the twenty-four elders who sat before God on their thrones fell on their faces and worshiped God, saying:
“We give You thanks, O Lord God Almighty,
The One who is and who was and who is to come,
Because You have taken Your great power and reigned. (We are more than conquers)
The nations were angry, and Your wrath has come, (Jesus our LORD has taken the beating for us)
And the time of the dead, that they should be judged, (The old nature was judged on Calvary)
And that You should reward Your servants the prophets and the saints, (We live forever with Him)
And those who fear Your name, small and great, (Enter in at The Straight Gate, anyone can who believes)
And should destroy those who destroy the earth.” (Daniel 2)
Then the temple of God (CHRIST) was opened (Was revealed) in heaven, and the ark of His covenant (Jesus Christ The Son Of DOUBLE “LOVE, LOVE”) was seen in His temple. (You and me Christian are His TEMPLE of “LOVE, LOVE”) And there were lightnings, noises, thunderings, an earthquake, and great hail. (<<<< And these signs shall follow those who believe)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21195758


Hallelujah Jesus is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords and is the only Savior that can save you by what he did on the cross but all your red highlights did you notice you changed all of the "theys" and "thems" being plural as in two into "Hims" and "His" you can't change scripture from plural to singular to fit your way of thinking, and Jesus never laid in the street. Jesus was in a tomb, those two witnesses lay in the street. The "no rain" in actual no rain why would the people of the earth be angry there was no "revival" being the rain....the world hates revival. The plagues are actual plagues that is why the world rejoices when these two are dead, laying in the street.
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He became sin, for us, He Who knew no sin was filled with The Holy Spirit.....the Third Person of The Godhead.
The Holy Spirit witnesses of The Salvation of Jesus Christ..The Two Witnesses of The Father are His 1. SON 2. THE HOLY SPIRIT

TOGETHER THE HOLY SPIRIT AND JESUS ARE ONE


THE TWO WITNESSES OF GOD ARE THE ONES WHO SET YOU AND ME FREE FROM OUR SIN 2000 years ago.
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Scripture has multiple levels and multiple meanings...thank you for showing us what you see.....but when you see two prophets laying in the street don't rejoice.
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When people accept Jesus as Lord and Savior, repent, and turn from sin they become the temple of God. God had 2 physical temples that were destroyed, but because of what Jesus did we are now spiritual temples that can't be destroyed. The mission of the two witnesses is to build the temple of God. How do you build the spiritual temple of God? You tell people the good news(gospel) of what Jesus did so that they may be saved and become a temple, and all the temples combined are one temple for all are one in Jesus Christ. If you read the book of haagai and zechariah it shows joshua and zerubbabel building the temple. These two books show the two witnesses in the end, those books show the physical rebuilding after the destruction of Israel but the two end times witnesses rebuild the spiritual temple, same story just spiritual instead of physical. So if someone is promoting themselves and calling people idiots, stupid and such they are not building the temple of God they are tearing it down. Look at yourself and see are you building the temple of God by telling others of Jesus or are you tearing down the temple by promoting yourself and not even mentioning Jesus? Accept Jesus as savior today, become a temple, and encourage others to be part of the kingdom.
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When people accept Jesus as Lord and Savior, repent, and turn from sin they become the temple of God. God had 2 physical temples that were destroyed, but because of what Jesus did we are now spiritual temples that can't be destroyed. The mission of the two witnesses is to build the temple of God. How do you build the spiritual temple of God? You tell people the good news(gospel) of what Jesus did so that they may be saved and become a temple, and all the temples combined are one temple for all are one in Jesus Christ. If you read the book of haagai and zechariah it shows joshua and zerubbabel building the temple. These two books show the two witnesses in the end, those books show the physical rebuilding after the destruction of Israel but the two end times witnesses rebuild the spiritual temple, same story just spiritual instead of physical. So if someone is promoting themselves and calling people idiots, stupid and such they are not building the temple of God they are tearing it down. Look at yourself and see are you building the temple of God by telling others of Jesus or are you tearing down the temple by promoting yourself and not even mentioning Jesus? Accept Jesus as savior today, become a temple, and encourage others to be part of the kingdom.
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Brother, I won't argue with you to no avail for either of us......so one last comment.

We are the Temple of God

The mission of The Blood of Christ = Cleansing the Temple so The Holy Spirit can come dwell with us and use us for
His testimony here on earth

So The Blood and The Holy Spirit lead us into The Truth as The Two Witnesses Of God
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When people accept Jesus as Lord and Savior, repent, and turn from sin they become the temple of God. God had 2 physical temples that were destroyed, but because of what Jesus did we are now spiritual temples that can't be destroyed. The mission of the two witnesses is to build the temple of God. How do you build the spiritual temple of God? You tell people the good news(gospel) of what Jesus did so that they may be saved and become a temple, and all the temples combined are one temple for all are one in Jesus Christ. If you read the book of haagai and zechariah it shows joshua and zerubbabel building the temple. These two books show the two witnesses in the end, those books show the physical rebuilding after the destruction of Israel but the two end times witnesses rebuild the spiritual temple, same story just spiritual instead of physical. So if someone is promoting themselves and calling people idiots, stupid and such they are not building the temple of God they are tearing it down. Look at yourself and see are you building the temple of God by telling others of Jesus or are you tearing down the temple by promoting yourself and not even mentioning Jesus? Accept Jesus as savior today, become a temple, and encourage others to be part of the kingdom.
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Brother, I won't argue with you to no avail for either of us......so one last comment.

We are the Temple of God

The mission of The Blood of Christ = Cleansing the Temple so The Holy Spirit can come dwell with us and use us for
His testimony here on earth

So The Blood and The Holy Spirit lead us into The Truth as The Two Witnesses Of God
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Your persistent and I appreciate your comments and discussion. Stay strong in the Lord, bad times are coming.
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Good times brother, We are looking as you are.... Tightrope walkers the look down usually fall...... The Redeemed look up and will be above the things befalling mankind.

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When people accept Jesus as Lord and Savior, repent, and turn from sin they become the temple of God. God had 2 physical temples that were destroyed, but because of what Jesus did we are now spiritual temples that can't be destroyed. The mission of the two witnesses is to build the temple of God. How do you build the spiritual temple of God? You tell people the good news(gospel) of what Jesus did so that they may be saved and become a temple, and all the temples combined are one temple for all are one in Jesus Christ. If you read the book of haagai and zechariah it shows joshua and zerubbabel building the temple. These two books show the two witnesses in the end, those books show the physical rebuilding after the destruction of Israel but the two end times witnesses rebuild the spiritual temple, same story just spiritual instead of physical. So if someone is promoting themselves and calling people idiots, stupid and such they are not building the temple of God they are tearing it down. Look at yourself and see are you building the temple of God by telling others of Jesus or are you tearing down the temple by promoting yourself and not even mentioning Jesus? Accept Jesus as savior today, become a temple, and encourage others to be part of the kingdom.
 Quoting: waterman


2nd corinthians 6:16:
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

The beast and the false prophet build the physical temple but the two witnesses build the spiritual temple(tell people about Jesus is building the temple). Those who accept Jesus as Lord and Savior, repent, and turn from sin are the temple of God
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When people accept Jesus as Lord and Savior, repent, and turn from sin they become the temple of God. God had 2 physical temples that were destroyed, but because of what Jesus did we are now spiritual temples that can't be destroyed. The mission of the two witnesses is to build the temple of God. How do you build the spiritual temple of God? You tell people the good news(gospel) of what Jesus did so that they may be saved and become a temple, and all the temples combined are one temple for all are one in Jesus Christ. If you read the book of haagai and zechariah it shows joshua and zerubbabel building the temple. These two books show the two witnesses in the end, those books show the physical rebuilding after the destruction of Israel but the two end times witnesses rebuild the spiritual temple, same story just spiritual instead of physical. So if someone is promoting themselves and calling people idiots, stupid and such they are not building the temple of God they are tearing it down. Look at yourself and see are you building the temple of God by telling others of Jesus or are you tearing down the temple by promoting yourself and not even mentioning Jesus? Accept Jesus as savior today, become a temple, and encourage others to be part of the kingdom.
 Quoting: waterman


2nd corinthians 6:16:
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

The beast and the false prophet build the physical temple but the two witnesses build the spiritual temple(tell people about Jesus is building the temple). Those who accept Jesus as Lord and Savior, repent, and turn from sin are the temple of God
 Quoting: waterman


COLOSSIANS 3:1-4

If then you were raised with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ is, sitting at the right hand of God. Set your mind on things above, not on things on the earth. For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ who is our life appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory.

LET THIS MIND BE IN YOU
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When people accept Jesus as Lord and Savior, repent, and turn from sin they become the temple of God. God had 2 physical temples that were destroyed, but because of what Jesus did we are now spiritual temples that can't be destroyed. The mission of the two witnesses is to build the temple of God. How do you build the spiritual temple of God? You tell people the good news(gospel) of what Jesus did so that they may be saved and become a temple, and all the temples combined are one temple for all are one in Jesus Christ. If you read the book of haagai and zechariah it shows joshua and zerubbabel building the temple. These two books show the two witnesses in the end, those books show the physical rebuilding after the destruction of Israel but the two end times witnesses rebuild the spiritual temple, same story just spiritual instead of physical. So if someone is promoting themselves and calling people idiots, stupid and such they are not building the temple of God they are tearing it down. Look at yourself and see are you building the temple of God by telling others of Jesus or are you tearing down the temple by promoting yourself and not even mentioning Jesus? Accept Jesus as savior today, become a temple, and encourage others to be part of the kingdom.
 Quoting: waterman


2nd corinthians 6:16:
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

The beast and the false prophet build the physical temple but the two witnesses build the spiritual temple(tell people about Jesus is building the temple). Those who accept Jesus as Lord and Savior, repent, and turn from sin are the temple of God
 Quoting: waterman


COLOSSIANS 3:1-4

If then you were raised with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ is, sitting at the right hand of God. Set your mind on things above, not on things on the earth. For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ who is our life appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory.

LET THIS MIND BE IN YOU
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21195758


That's exactly right. Don't set your mind on earthly(physical)things, set your mind on heavenly(spiritual)things


John 3:12

12 If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things?

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“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.” Marcus Tullius Cicero

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Thanks wolverine:

People read Isaiah, Jeremiah and the prophets and see the falling away of Israel and the Gods judgement come to them. Even if they do relate it to modern times. They are under the impression it is for tiny little geographical Israel which is only made of 2 of the original 12 tribes. People think the war of Gog and Magog is going to come to physical geographical Israel, but that war is not for the 2 tribes of geographical Israel it is for spiritual Israel the lost 10 tribes, the ones that are in the land of milk and honey(united states) where God said he would place the children of Israel, Gods hidden Israel: Psalm 83:
2 For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.
3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people,
and consulted against thy hidden ones.
4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
How is Israel hidden if we know where Israel is.....it is hidden because it is spiritual Israel....Bible pattern(physical first spiritual second)

If satan can cut off either house of Israel, the lost 10 tribes(united states) or the 2 tribes that are geographical Israel then the name of Israel will be no more. Ezek 37 shows they are rejoined in the end by Gods last servant

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Zechariah 3- speak to me!
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Thanks wolverine:

People read Isaiah, Jeremiah and the prophets and see the falling away of Israel and the Gods judgement come to them. Even if they do relate it to modern times. They are under the impression it is for tiny little geographical Israel which is only made of 2 of the original 12 tribes. People think the war of Gog and Magog is going to come to physical geographical Israel, but that war is not for the 2 tribes of geographical Israel it is for spiritual Israel the lost 10 tribes, the ones that are in the land of milk and honey(united states) where God said he would place the children of Israel, Gods hidden Israel: Psalm 83:
2 For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.
3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people,
and consulted against thy hidden ones.
4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
How is Israel hidden if we know where Israel is.....it is hidden because it is spiritual Israel....Bible pattern(physical first spiritual second)

If satan can cut off either house of Israel, the lost 10 tribes(united states) or the 2 tribes that are geographical Israel then the name of Israel will be no more. Ezek 37 shows they are rejoined in the end by Gods last servant
 Quoting: waterman


Careful in using psalms as prophecy! Also know this, Gog is a person or people and Magog is land. The bible describes armies coming against Israel with TURKEY being one of them among others. Turkey was just mentioned as making a very threatening remark towards Israel in the last 24 hrs mentioned in a key post recently in these forums near the top!!

Go to this link and read please!!

[link to www.nowtheendbegins.com]

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“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.” Marcus Tullius Cicero

"You must submit to supreme suffering in order to discover the completion of joy."
- John "Calvin" Rambo
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