The 2nd witness of Revelation 11 is the prince of Israel (ADAM) and the greatest of all servants of God

OK Waterman,

can we exchange email so you can read volumes of Books of the Bible already translated. Once you train your cranium to remember it is all about JESUS you will never be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of Jesus Christ!

Your interpretation makes no sense Jesus is talking in verse 5 to his servant is verse 1..you are saying he is talking to himself and holding is own hand

We know all of Israel will be saved, so Israel is not mankind and the kingdom of heaven because if all of Israel is saved that would mean "all mankind" would be saved and we know not all of mankind is saved many are going to hell.

THE VOLUME OF THE BOOK IS WRITTEN ABOUT JESUS
THE VOLUME OF THE BOOK IS WRITTEN ABOUT ADAM(JESUS' FIRSTBORN)

Again Jesus is "The" Lamb of God and the beginning of Rev 14 is showing "A" Lamb of God standing with the 144,000. Why 144,000 BECAUSE THIS LAST SERVANT ADAM IS A COPY OF HIS FATHER JESUS HE COMES IN THE BEGINNING AND THE END, AND HE IS STANDING WITH THE 144,000 BECAUSE HE IS THE SERVANT IN EZEKIEL 37 THE"DAVID" THAT BRING BOTH HOUSES OF ISRAEL(10 LOST TRIBES AND THE 2 TRIBES OF GEOGRAPHICAL ISRAEL JUDAH AND BENJAMIN TOGETHER AS ONE AND TO THE KNOWLEDGE THAT JESUS CHRIST HIS FATHER IS THE WAY OF SALVATION(144,000 ISN'T ONLY 144,000 PEOPLE IT IS SHOWING ALL OF ISRAEL IS SAVED ALL THE TRIBES ARE RESTORED)



WOW! if your claiming "the one like the Son of man" sitting on the cloud reaping the harvest is Jesus you are really DEMOTING the authority of Jesus to have to be told when to harvest the earth and it clearly shows only a single gold crown on the 'one like the Son of man' while rev 19 clearly describes Jesus with many crowns and not a single angel around to tell Jesus to do anything


BREAK DOWN ISAIAH 42 THE SERVANT OF GOD AND TELL ME ITS JESUS AND NOT ADAM(HINT VERSE 5 SHOWS YOU WHO IS SPEAKING THE CREATOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH AND THE PEOPLE(JESUS)

42Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles. 2 He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street. 3 A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking [1] flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth. 4 He shall not fail nor be discouraged, [2] till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law.

5 Thus saith God the Lord, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein: 6 I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for "a" light(Jesus is "the light" but this servant is "a" light of the Gentiles; 7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house. 8 I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images. 9 Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them.
Praise for the LORD's Mighty Deliverance

10 Sing unto the Lord a new song, and his praise from the end of the earth, ye that go down to the sea, and all that is therein; the isles, and the inhabitants thereof. 11 Let the wilderness and the cities thereof lift up their voice, the villages that Kedar doth inhabit: let the inhabitants of the rock sing, let them shout from the top of the mountains. 12 Let them give glory unto the Lord, and declare his praise in the islands.

13 The Lord shall go forth as a mighty man, he shall stir up jealousy like a man of war: he shall cry, yea, roar; he shall prevail [3] against his enemies. 14 I have long time holden my peace; I have been still, and refrained myself: now will I cry like a travailing woman; I will destroy and devour [4] at once. 15 I will make waste mountains and hills, and dry up all their herbs; and I will make the rivers islands, and I will dry up the pools. 16 And I will bring the blind by a way that they knew not; I will lead them in paths that they have not known: I will make darkness light before them, and crooked things straight. [5] These things will I do unto them, and not forsake them. 17 They shall be turned back, they shall be greatly ashamed, that trust in graven images, that say to the molten images, Ye are our gods.
Israel's Failure to Profit from Discipline

18 Hear, ye deaf; and look, ye blind, that ye may see. 19 Who is blind, but my servant? or deaf, as my messenger that I sent? who is blind as he that is perfect, and blind as the Lord's servant? 20 Seeing many things, but thou observest not; opening the ears, but he heareth not. 21 The Lord is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable. 22 But this is a people robbed and spoiled; they are all of them snared in holes, and they are hid in prison houses: they are for a prey, and none delivereth; for a spoil, and none saith, Restore. 23 Who among you will give ear to this? who will hearken and hear for the time to come? 24 Who gave Jacob for a spoil, and Israel to the robbers? did not the Lord, he against whom we have sinned? for they would not walk in his ways, neither were they obedient unto his law. 25 Therefore he hath poured upon him the fury of his anger, and the strength of battle: and it hath set him on fire round about, yet he knew not; and it burned him, yet he laid it not to heart.





very good at least you took something from this discussion

WOW NOW EVERYBODY IS GOING TO HEAVEN, THERE WOULD BE NO NEED TO PREACH THE GOSPEL IF THAT WERE THE CASE!
NO not everybody is cleansed only those who accept what Jesus did, millions won't accept that and will be in hell.

It is called Grace.... Humans (Christians)think because they have heard The Word that they are the only ones who go to Heaven. Well, I will offer you this word of wisdom, if Christ did not show us all the example of the two thieves on their crosses.... Death bed salvation is possibly the way most humans come to Christ. At the Last DAY!

I do know this; I am not your judge, I am called to be a vessel of His love and mercy to all mankind.

There were two thieves the other didn't accept salvation. You are deceived if you think everybody is going to make it into The kingdom of God

You can's see right now that servant that will bring the two houses of Israel back together Ezekiel 37 if you want to read it, but you will in time. Keep reading Isaiah 42 until you can Jesus is verse 5 is speaking to his servant in verse 1

We will have to agree to disagree for now

I have a Savior it's Jesus but I'm not under the delusion that the whole world will be saved and as you claim the two houses of Israel are "mankind and the kingdom of heaven". The bible says all of Israel will be saved and if the two houses are "mankind and the kingdom of heaven", then every single person would be saved and that is not true. The two houses of Israel are the christian and the Jew and that is the whole house of Israel. The last day servant saves nobody he only leads the people to Jesus.

THE WHOLE BOOK IS ABOUT JESUS
THE WHOLE BOOK IS ABOUT ADAM, JESUS' FIRSTBORN

YOU JUST CAN'T SEE IT YET!

Last Edited by waterman on 11/24/2012 01:54 PM

Waterman please don't be so Old Covenant

You are excluding God's own command..that without faith no man can receive the hope of salvation. The Blood of Jesus does not automatically secure salvation, but the belief in the actions of that shed blood. Not every soul is going to accept through faith the power of God's salvation through the shed Blood of our Savior. For by grace are you saved through faith (Eph.2:8). Most are not going to simply put their trust in the actions that Jesus secured their salvation 2,000 years ago. Most of humanity will awaken in hell at the end of their lives, simply b/c they didn't trust in that same blood offering that you did.

Revelation 14:3-4
And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth.

These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they kept themselves pure. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among men and offered as firstfruits to God and the Lamb.

I know I won't be of the 144,000 for I have defiled with women. :(

If you are in Christ and have received Him as your Lord and savior. You can be assured that all past sins are forgiven and that you are not defiled in any way in the eyes of Jesus, the Father, or the Holy Spirit. You are a candidate to be one of those 144,000 chosen as anyone else in Christ. Just ask Him, He will show you how, and if you are obedient to His request you will be of that calling. These passages in Rev.14 are of a spiritual quest to fulfill a physical purpose. You have not, because you ask not, but ask to gloomily Him, not to seek a position of status.

Isn't a woman a church? ^^^.
Is Tesla among them, or Simon Perter?

Waterman, In the name of His Majesty Lord of Lords and King of kings Yeshua,
You dear brother are being led by The Holiest Spirit. You could not have come to this conclusion of The Prince of Peace, nor his message as the first born Son of His Majesty lest you were being guided by the Spirit of Truth.
You have been identified as a remnant which is currently being assembled. Hand picked by The Prince. His message has been voiced since 2010, Jan crouch of T.B.N. was told by him to her face the message! ..Yet you heard nothing from the so called christian network. He has shared with many this message which obviously has been rejected by main stream religion. Not surprisingly, his strongest opposition has been from so called ministers of Christ within the protestant movement.
He IS the truth His Majesty eluded to when He said "I must go....I will send you the COMFORTER. This end time prophet was forseen by those who promote the false prophet. The false prophet is alive in his teachings via the carefully constructed Koran over a 23 year period. Islam is this beast system, one which calls you an unbeliever, "infidel" if you say "God had a Son". To deny this IS ANTI-CHRIST. The one who leads them is not hidden but the disobedient children falling for a lesser god's (ALLAH) endorsement of his Son, OBAMA. This is no surprise to those who have "EYES to SEE". In the book of revelations it is written that Obama will come against THE PRINCE of PEACE himself but will NOT prevail against him nor those whom he leads...144,000. The reason is simple, this CHOIR praises the Creator and His Son openly powerfully in defiance of what you no doubt have already discovered in America's current attitude towards true belivers in His Majesty Yeshua.

The reason you have not heard of this "Nobody" is clear....

Hosea 9:7-9
The time of Israel’s punishment has come;
the day of payment is here.
Soon Israel will know this all too well.
Because of your great sin and hostility,
you say, “The prophets are crazy
and the inspired men are fools!”
8 The prophet is a watchman over Israel for my God,
yet traps are laid for him wherever he goes.
He faces hostility even in the house of God.
9 The things my people do are as depraved
as what they did in Gibeah long ago.
God will not forget.
He will surely punish them for their sins.
And, there is something even more beautiful dear brother.....

His Majesty told the Prince His arrival would be "HEARD AROUND the WORLD"....
Tell me dear brother...Heard any "TRUMPETS" lately?
The Prince was "SEALED" and given His Majesties "Promise" to share with ALL mankind. He carries this "Symbol" close to his heart and many have seen and BELIEVED, now excitedly waiting for "The SIGN" of His Majesties presence which IS already HERE. The globe is surrounded by His Majesties Hyper Light Armada which arrived via the SUN "STARGATE" which can only be accessed by the Lords of Light. Tell me dearest brother have you seen any strange phenom occuring with our local star?
The Prince will "STAND' very soon in a place where 'TIME is SQUARED"....
To know His Majesties Son, The Prince of Peace will be easy.....
The world will know and see him HOLDING "The Promise"
READ and BELIVE!!!
Isaiah 11:10
New Living Translation (NLT)
10 In that day the heir to David’s throne[a]
will be a banner of salvation to all the world.
The nations will rally to him,
and the land where he lives will be a glorious place.
EVERY KNEE WILL BOW!!!
Glory and Honor to His Majesty Lord Yeshua!!!