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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27249373 United States 11/07/2012 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People usually count medicare, medicaid, and social security when they talk about the "welfare state". 220 billion is just direct transfers which isn't to say that the war spending is a huge driver of the debt too; because it is... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24901203 United States 11/07/2012 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP its the Republican world view from from their little Alternate Universe where NO ONE COULD POSSIBLY want something different other than what THEY think. This country is growing AGAINST the GOP base. They dont see, they dont hear and the just dont understand and to be honest, I feel a little sorry for them because they are clearly very lost. Thats a difficult place to be I reckon. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27253239 United States 11/07/2012 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did you know the highest usage of food stamps is in red states? This is fact, more registered repubs use govt aid than any other group in the US. oh yeah come to chicago and go shopping jerkoff.watch pile hundreds of dollars of free food in a 50,000 car.all on the 'card'.we are having hamburger helper tonight after work of course |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8948137 United States 11/07/2012 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did you know the highest usage of food stamps is in red states? This is fact, more registered repubs use govt aid than any other group in the US. oh yeah come to chicago and go shopping jerkoff.watch pile hundreds of dollars of free food in a 50,000 car.all on the 'card'.we are having hamburger helper tonight after work of course Sounds like a very scientific testimony. You must be right. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27041131 United States 11/07/2012 04:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP its the Republican world view from from their little Alternate Universe where NO ONE COULD POSSIBLY want something different other than what THEY think. This country is growing AGAINST the GOP base. They dont see, they dont hear and the just dont understand and to be honest, I feel a little sorry for them because they are clearly very lost. Thats a difficult place to be I reckon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24901203 This is so accurate. America is becoming a more science based rational type of society. This is due to the wealth of information on the internet and increase in I.Q. this all means a shift away from Republican signle issue religion based politics. Everyone is sick of it. Bush will be the last Republican president unless the Republican party ousts the religious fanatics. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4637200 United States 11/07/2012 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually total welfare spending in the US is 220 billion a year. That is less than 3 days of your war! Yet no one talks about the real economic elephant in the room. Pretty crazy don't you think? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27252437 OP Get your shit straight. FACT 62% of the US Federal Budget goes to entitlements (in 2012) Entitlement spending in 2012 totaled 2.05 TRILLION. I'm not sure where you got your numbers from but they aren't close to the truth. Defense spending is 676 BILLION. Entitlements cost 3X Defense. I'm not advocating spending nearly that much on Defense. Just pointing out the real numbers. READ [link to www.heritage.org] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27162750 United States 11/07/2012 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually total welfare spending in the US is 220 billion a year. That is less than 3 days of your war! Yet no one talks about the real economic elephant in the room. Pretty crazy don't you think? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27252437 OP Get your shit straight. FACT 62% of the US Federal Budget goes to entitlements (in 2012) Entitlement spending in 2012 totaled 2.05 TRILLION. I'm not sure where you got your numbers from but they aren't close to the truth. Defense spending is 676 BILLION. Entitlements cost 3X Defense. I'm not advocating spending nearly that much on Defense. Just pointing out the real numbers. READ [link to www.heritage.org] Libtards don't understand basic budgetary facts and figures. They just parrot what they hear on MSM. Bush's war ruined our economy! Its Bush's fault! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27081689 United States 11/07/2012 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually total welfare spending in the US is 220 billion a year. That is less than 3 days of your war! Yet no one talks about the real economic elephant in the room. Pretty crazy don't you think? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27252437 OP Get your shit straight. FACT 62% of the US Federal Budget goes to entitlements (in 2012) Entitlement spending in 2012 totaled 2.05 TRILLION. I'm not sure where you got your numbers from but they aren't close to the truth. Defense spending is 676 BILLION. Entitlements cost 3X Defense. I'm not advocating spending nearly that much on Defense. Just pointing out the real numbers. READ [link to www.heritage.org] Well of course, when you add in corporate welfare the amount is insane! |
Bluebird User ID: 730536 United States 11/07/2012 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually total welfare spending in the US is 220 billion a year. That is less than 3 days of your war! Yet no one talks about the real economic elephant in the room. Pretty crazy don't you think? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27252437 The war(s) are the giant welfare program, ya dummy. No, they'er not! [link to en.wikipedia.org] Percentage of the Total Federal Budget Medicare and Medicaid 23% Social Security 20% Other Mandatory 13% Discretionary Spending 18% DEFENSE 19% Interest on the Debt 6% Ya dummy! One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway. Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21963830 United States 11/07/2012 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did you know the highest usage of food stamps is in red states? This is fact, more registered repubs use govt aid than any other group in the US. Yeah, but that's only because the black mooslim in the White House is tanking the economy. Not to mention blue states are all the hubs. Look at where they're located; the coasts. They all have naturally better economies as they're larger cities. They're also prime vacation spots which get most of their revenue from tourists. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4637200 United States 11/07/2012 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually total welfare spending in the US is 220 billion a year. That is less than 3 days of your war! Yet no one talks about the real economic elephant in the room. Pretty crazy don't you think? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27252437 OP Get your shit straight. FACT 62% of the US Federal Budget goes to entitlements (in 2012) Entitlement spending in 2012 totaled 2.05 TRILLION. I'm not sure where you got your numbers from but they aren't close to the truth. Defense spending is 676 BILLION. Entitlements cost 3X Defense. I'm not advocating spending nearly that much on Defense. Just pointing out the real numbers. READ [link to www.heritage.org] Well of course, when you add in corporate welfare the amount is insane! What the hell are you talking about? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26849823 United States 11/07/2012 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually total welfare spending in the US is 220 billion a year. That is less than 3 days of your war! Yet no one talks about the real economic elephant in the room. Pretty crazy don't you think? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27252437 OP Get your shit straight. FACT 62% of the US Federal Budget goes to entitlements (in 2012) Entitlement spending in 2012 totaled 2.05 TRILLION. I'm not sure where you got your numbers from but they aren't close to the truth. Defense spending is 676 BILLION. Entitlements cost 3X Defense. I'm not advocating spending nearly that much on Defense. Just pointing out the real numbers. READ [link to www.heritage.org] Your wrong, very little of that actually goes to non-working poor. "Distribution of Tax Expenditure Benefits Differs Greatly, and Is Much Less Favorable to the Middle Class and Low-Incomes Families The distribution of entitlement benefits stands in sharp contrast to the distribution of benefits for tax expenditures, which former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan has called “tax entitlements.” The Tax Policy Center finds that under current tax policy:a The top fifth of the population receives 66 percent of tax-expenditure benefits (compared to 10 percent of entitlement benefits). The middle 60 percent of the population receives a little over 31 percent of tax-expenditure benefits (compared to 58 percent of entitlement benefits). The bottom fifth receives just 2.8 percent of tax-expenditure benefits (compared to 32 percent of entitlement benefits).b The top 1 percent of the population receives 23.9 percent of tax-expenditure benefits — more than eight times as much as the bottom fifth of the population, and nearly as much as the middle 60 percent of the population. a These TPC figures refer to 2011 tax policy. The figures are for individual tax expenditures and do not include corporate tax expenditures. If corporate tax expenditures were included, the results would be skewed even more heavily to the top of the income spectrum. b The TPC figures are based on tax filing units, rather than entire households (thus, the “bottom fifth” means the 20 percent of tax units with the lowest incomes). If our analysis had been based on smaller units similar to tax units rather than on households, it would have shown that the bottom fifth of the population received a somewhat smaller share of the entitlement benefits (about 25 percent rather than 32 percent) and the middle slightly more (64 percent rather than 58 percent)." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27162750 United States 11/07/2012 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually total welfare spending in the US is 220 billion a year. That is less than 3 days of your war! Yet no one talks about the real economic elephant in the room. Pretty crazy don't you think? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27252437 OP Get your shit straight. FACT 62% of the US Federal Budget goes to entitlements (in 2012) Entitlement spending in 2012 totaled 2.05 TRILLION. I'm not sure where you got your numbers from but they aren't close to the truth. Defense spending is 676 BILLION. Entitlements cost 3X Defense. I'm not advocating spending nearly that much on Defense. Just pointing out the real numbers. READ [link to www.heritage.org] Your wrong, very little of that actually goes to non-working poor. "Distribution of Tax Expenditure Benefits Differs Greatly, and Is Much Less Favorable to the Middle Class and Low-Incomes Families The distribution of entitlement benefits stands in sharp contrast to the distribution of benefits for tax expenditures, which former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan has called “tax entitlements.” The Tax Policy Center finds that under current tax policy:a The top fifth of the population receives 66 percent of tax-expenditure benefits (compared to 10 percent of entitlement benefits). The middle 60 percent of the population receives a little over 31 percent of tax-expenditure benefits (compared to 58 percent of entitlement benefits). The bottom fifth receives just 2.8 percent of tax-expenditure benefits (compared to 32 percent of entitlement benefits).b The top 1 percent of the population receives 23.9 percent of tax-expenditure benefits — more than eight times as much as the bottom fifth of the population, and nearly as much as the middle 60 percent of the population. a These TPC figures refer to 2011 tax policy. The figures are for individual tax expenditures and do not include corporate tax expenditures. If corporate tax expenditures were included, the results would be skewed even more heavily to the top of the income spectrum. b The TPC figures are based on tax filing units, rather than entire households (thus, the “bottom fifth” means the 20 percent of tax units with the lowest incomes). If our analysis had been based on smaller units similar to tax units rather than on households, it would have shown that the bottom fifth of the population received a somewhat smaller share of the entitlement benefits (about 25 percent rather than 32 percent) and the middle slightly more (64 percent rather than 58 percent)." Wow are libtards really this dumb or is this just a bot? You do realize why the bottom 5th don't get a lot of tax breaks and the top 1% do get "more"? Its because the bottom 5th don't pay any taxes, and the top 1% pay almost all of it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4637200 United States 11/07/2012 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually total welfare spending in the US is 220 billion a year. That is less than 3 days of your war! Yet no one talks about the real economic elephant in the room. Pretty crazy don't you think? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27252437 OP Get your shit straight. FACT 62% of the US Federal Budget goes to entitlements (in 2012) Entitlement spending in 2012 totaled 2.05 TRILLION. I'm not sure where you got your numbers from but they aren't close to the truth. Defense spending is 676 BILLION. Entitlements cost 3X Defense. I'm not advocating spending nearly that much on Defense. Just pointing out the real numbers. READ [link to www.heritage.org] Your wrong, very little of that actually goes to non-working poor. "Distribution of Tax Expenditure Benefits Differs Greatly, and Is Much Less Favorable to the Middle Class and Low-Incomes Families The distribution of entitlement benefits stands in sharp contrast to the distribution of benefits for tax expenditures, which former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan has called “tax entitlements.” The Tax Policy Center finds that under current tax policy:a The top fifth of the population receives 66 percent of tax-expenditure benefits (compared to 10 percent of entitlement benefits). The middle 60 percent of the population receives a little over 31 percent of tax-expenditure benefits (compared to 58 percent of entitlement benefits). The bottom fifth receives just 2.8 percent of tax-expenditure benefits (compared to 32 percent of entitlement benefits).b The top 1 percent of the population receives 23.9 percent of tax-expenditure benefits — more than eight times as much as the bottom fifth of the population, and nearly as much as the middle 60 percent of the population. a These TPC figures refer to 2011 tax policy. The figures are for individual tax expenditures and do not include corporate tax expenditures. If corporate tax expenditures were included, the results would be skewed even more heavily to the top of the income spectrum. b The TPC figures are based on tax filing units, rather than entire households (thus, the “bottom fifth” means the 20 percent of tax units with the lowest incomes). If our analysis had been based on smaller units similar to tax units rather than on households, it would have shown that the bottom fifth of the population received a somewhat smaller share of the entitlement benefits (about 25 percent rather than 32 percent) and the middle slightly more (64 percent rather than 58 percent)." Great analysis but who said anything about non-working poor? Federal Expenditures on Entitlements is the subject. Spending is spending. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24824113 United States 11/07/2012 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually total welfare spending in the US is 220 billion a year. That is less than 3 days of your war! Yet no one talks about the real economic elephant in the room. Pretty crazy don't you think? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27252437 Um... You're just counting welfare. Actual welfare spending is all the free shit added up. [link to dailycaller.com] __________________________ The government spent approximately $1.03 trillion on 83 means-tested federal welfare programs in fiscal year 2011 alone — a price tag that makes welfare that year the government’s largest expenditure, according to new data released by the Republican side of the Senate Budget Committee. The total sum taxpayers spent on federal welfare programs was derived from a new Congressional Research Service (CRS) report on federal welfare spending — which topped out at $745.84 billion for fiscal year 2011 — combined with an analysis from the Republican Senate Budget Committee staff of state spending on federal welfare programs (based on “The Oxford Handbook of State and Local Government Finance”), which reached $282.7 billion in fiscal year 2011. Read more: [link to dailycaller.com] (more at link) _______________________________ It topped 1.028 TRILLION in FY2011. That's a new record and tops all other budget line items. You know it went up in 2012, also. Dumbass. Not that I give a shit anymore. We've hit the tipping point. The eaters now outnumber the feeders. Won't be long now. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24824113 United States 11/07/2012 05:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These dumbasses that cry about citizen welfare all day are ridiculous. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27255098 If they think that's bad, they better not look at the corporate welfare numbers. Whew. TEN times as much money. We got Obama! Free shit for everyone! I say we close the gap and give corporate cell phones. Can't favor one group over another! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8948137 United States 11/07/2012 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did you know the highest usage of food stamps is in red states? This is fact, more registered repubs use govt aid than any other group in the US. Yeah, but that's only because the black mooslim in the White House is tanking the economy. Not to mention blue states are all the hubs. Look at where they're located; the coasts. They all have naturally better economies as they're larger cities. They're also prime vacation spots which get most of their revenue from tourists. I guess I could have made it more clear, that "Black Mooslim in the White house" line was meant to be taken sarcastically. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26849823 United States 11/07/2012 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually total welfare spending in the US is 220 billion a year. That is less than 3 days of your war! Yet no one talks about the real economic elephant in the room. Pretty crazy don't you think? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27252437 OP Get your shit straight. FACT 62% of the US Federal Budget goes to entitlements (in 2012) Entitlement spending in 2012 totaled 2.05 TRILLION. I'm not sure where you got your numbers from but they aren't close to the truth. Defense spending is 676 BILLION. Entitlements cost 3X Defense. I'm not advocating spending nearly that much on Defense. Just pointing out the real numbers. READ [link to www.heritage.org] Your wrong, very little of that actually goes to non-working poor. "Distribution of Tax Expenditure Benefits Differs Greatly, and Is Much Less Favorable to the Middle Class and Low-Incomes Families The distribution of entitlement benefits stands in sharp contrast to the distribution of benefits for tax expenditures, which former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan has called “tax entitlements.” The Tax Policy Center finds that under current tax policy:a The top fifth of the population receives 66 percent of tax-expenditure benefits (compared to 10 percent of entitlement benefits). The middle 60 percent of the population receives a little over 31 percent of tax-expenditure benefits (compared to 58 percent of entitlement benefits). The bottom fifth receives just 2.8 percent of tax-expenditure benefits (compared to 32 percent of entitlement benefits).b The top 1 percent of the population receives 23.9 percent of tax-expenditure benefits — more than eight times as much as the bottom fifth of the population, and nearly as much as the middle 60 percent of the population. a These TPC figures refer to 2011 tax policy. The figures are for individual tax expenditures and do not include corporate tax expenditures. If corporate tax expenditures were included, the results would be skewed even more heavily to the top of the income spectrum. b The TPC figures are based on tax filing units, rather than entire households (thus, the “bottom fifth” means the 20 percent of tax units with the lowest incomes). If our analysis had been based on smaller units similar to tax units rather than on households, it would have shown that the bottom fifth of the population received a somewhat smaller share of the entitlement benefits (about 25 percent rather than 32 percent) and the middle slightly more (64 percent rather than 58 percent)." Great analysis but who said anything about non-working poor? Federal Expenditures on Entitlements is the subject. Spending is spending. I pointed out the non-working poor because it seems that most people who think of "welfare" think of the money going to people who like to do nothing but sit on their asses all day when in actuality a very small percentage of welfare expenditures go to them. People are constantly complaining about their tax dollars going to welfare recipients when corporations and the wealthy are the ones getting way more of our tax expenditures. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4752592 United States 11/07/2012 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What gets me is the fact that people think that money just vanishes into thin air when it gets doled out, when it really doesn't. It goes into the hands of shop owners and providers of services. Who in turn spend it on something else. So on and so forth until tax season rolls back around, and it gets back into the hands of the gov'ment. If you are looking for where we are hemorrhaging money that never gets seen again, you need to be looking into the pockets of corporations who spend it all overseas. Now as to where the money that gets doled out COMES from, that's another whole can of worms. But don't hate that money gets injected INTO our communities. It's still here at least. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26957116 United States 11/07/2012 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What gets me is the fact that people think that money just vanishes into thin air when it gets doled out, when it really doesn't. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4752592 It goes into the hands of shop owners and providers of services. Who in turn spend it on something else. So on and so forth until tax season rolls back around, and it gets back into the hands of the gov'ment. If you are looking for where we are hemorrhaging money that never gets seen again, you need to be looking into the pockets of corporations who spend it all overseas. Now as to where the money that gets doled out COMES from, that's another whole can of worms. But don't hate that money gets injected INTO our communities. It's still here at least. Like all the landlords with tenants on Section 8 who are as much welfare recipients as any welfare queen. |