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The undisputed greatest president - Lincoln - was bad-mouthed by half the people in his time, too!

 
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The undisputed greatest president - Lincoln - was bad-mouthed by half the people in his time, too!
And the challenges facing the USA (and world) are now incomprehensible for most to fathom, even in part.

A great president will have to make very difficult decisions which will make many people hate him, as a child might hate a strict parent before he grows and attains some wisdom.

Should our economy survive until Jan 1, 2013, we'll see if our president is worthy of greatness, or decides to cowardly kick the can down the road, which is what Wall St. would want, to satisfy their greed.
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Re: The undisputed greatest president - Lincoln - was bad-mouthed by half the people in his time, too!
Very insightful, however...

Lincoln was white.
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Lincoln suspended habeus corpus, plunged the country into the bloodiest war in American history when all the other Western nations eliminated slavery without war, and set the stage for modern fiat money with the greenback which has caused endless economic suffering since. He's not the "undisputed greatest president". Millard Fillmore was a boss - go look him up.
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I'm rather partial to my boy Billie Clint'n
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Lincon should have been tried and jailed for treason
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Lincoln should have been hanged for despotism.
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Re: The undisputed greatest president - Lincoln - was bad-mouthed by half the people in his time, too!
Lincoln was the reason we began moving away from powerful state governments to a more powerful centralized government, though I don't think that was his intention.

Lincoln had a unique set of circumstances to deal with no doubt, but I wouldn't even put him in the top five U.S. Presidents...top ten, yes...
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Re: The undisputed greatest president - Lincoln - was bad-mouthed by half the people in his time, too!
Lincoln was the reason we began moving away from powerful state governments to a more powerful centralized government, though I don't think that was his intention.

Lincoln had a unique set of circumstances to deal with no doubt, but I wouldn't even put him in the top five U.S. Presidents...top ten, yes...
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yes, and the Roman Catholic Church announced an "infallible pope" in 1870. Centralized government and centralized politicized Christianity. Only a few years later a guy named Adolph Hitler would be the great dictator. Today we have absolute rule by the money power.

""Lincoln, the Great Divider",
"Lincoln, the Machiavellian Dictator",
"Financing the Bloodbath, 1861 - 1865 -

check out Deanna Spingola's The Ruling Elite

[link to www.amazon.com]
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It seems that the bad-mouthers have survived to this day, which is no surprise, but without Lincoln, the USA would likely have perished over a hundred years ago.
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Wow. He kept us forcibly joined together like when mom made me and my sister sit next to eachother on the couch and stfu when we would fight, when all we really wanted to do was get the fuck away from eachother or to kick eachother's ass again.

Thanks Abe.
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Wow. He kept us forcibly joined together like when mom made me and my sister sit next to eachother on the couch and stfu when we would fight, when all we really wanted to do was get the fuck away from eachother or to kick eachother's ass again.

Thanks Abe.
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Well, that might just be one of the wiser analogies made on GLP today, LF...
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Lincoln was the reason we began moving away from powerful state governments to a more powerful centralized government, though I don't think that was his intention.

Lincoln had a unique set of circumstances to deal with no doubt, but I wouldn't even put him in the top five U.S. Presidents...top ten, yes...
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Lincoln really sucked. MSM have sold you lies again. He declared war on his own country for crying out loud.
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It seems that the bad-mouthers have survived to this day, which is no surprise, but without Lincoln, the USA would likely have perished over a hundred years ago.
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The southern states would've been much better off if it had happened that way. Now we got all these bleeding heart, gay lib-tards to deal with.

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Re: The undisputed greatest president - Lincoln - was bad-mouthed by half the people in his time, too!
It seems that the bad-mouthers have survived to this day, which is no surprise, but without Lincoln, the USA would likely have perished over a hundred years ago.
 Quoting: OP 27257578


The southern states would've been much better off if it had happened that way. Now we got all these bleeding heart, gay lib-tards to deal with.
 Quoting: Garman906


Wow, sometimes when the Stupidity Meter runs this high, as it does with your response, I have to remember the saying - "you can't fix stupid" -- it should be the GLP slogan...
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Re: The undisputed greatest president - Lincoln - was bad-mouthed by half the people in his time, too!
Very insightful, however...

Lincoln was white.
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I'd say he was more of a tan color, if that even matters.
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Re: The undisputed greatest president - Lincoln - was bad-mouthed by half the people in his time, too!
Lincoln
Wilson
FDR
LBJ
Obama

That is a chronological list of the 5 WORST presidents in history. Lincoln was a complete fuck-up and exactly the type of figure the founding fathers had hoped to prevent from ever coming to power.

He should have been universally hated in his own time, and in ours.
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Lincoln was a despot. He killed almost a whole generation of young men because of his ego. The differences between the North and the South were negotiable but he chose war. Because the North won, history was rewritten to make that slime ball look like some kind of saint.
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fuck Lincoln, he was a tyrant traitor American hating piece of shit.
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You are obviously an idiot and have NEVER read any history in your entire entitled life. Go back to the plantation cotton picker.
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he was a deist. wanted to send africans away. hypocrite
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Re: The undisputed greatest president - Lincoln - was bad-mouthed by half the people in his time, too!
It seems that the bad-mouthers have survived to this day, which is no surprise, but without Lincoln, the USA would likely have perished over a hundred years ago.
 Quoting: OP 27257578


The southern states would've been much better off if it had happened that way. Now we got all these bleeding heart, gay lib-tards to deal with.
 Quoting: Garman906


Wow, sometimes when the Stupidity Meter runs this high, as it does with your response, I have to remember the saying - "you can't fix stupid" -- it should be the GLP slogan...
 Quoting: OP 27264534


OP, as someone who once also assumed the truth of the conventional wisdom of the greatness of Lincoln, please realize you have only been told the "winner's" side of the story.

As others have pointed out, Lincoln is arguably the WORST president in that he forever undermined state's rights, fundamentally changing the relationship between the federal and state government that was so carefully defined by the Founders [To be fair, the Founders fucked up by never make it clear if state's could secede, but Lincoln definitely did not have to go to war over the issue.]

Personally, I don't think he was that bad, but certainly there are a lot of myths, like he was a crusader to end slavery. Completely not true. He never had any intention to end slavery, and even when he did pass the Emancipation Proclamation, it only effected a subset of Southern areas under Confederate control - it did not free all Southern slaves and it not free Northern slaves. Any objective analysis makes it pretty clear it was a strategic play to make life harder on the Southern enemy.

Anyway, before you mindlessly repeat that Lincoln was the greatest, do some research. And remember that the people feeding you that conventional wisdom have shown no interest in the protection of your liberty. They have agenda, and declaring Lincoln the greatest is part of that agenda.
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Incidentally, the greatest president was Washington.

The biggest badass, and my personal fave, Andrew Jackson.
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It seems that the bad-mouthers have survived to this day, which is no surprise, but without Lincoln, the USA would likely have perished over a hundred years ago.
 Quoting: OP 27257578


The southern states would've been much better off if it had happened that way. Now we got all these bleeding heart, gay lib-tards to deal with.
 Quoting: Garman906


Wow, sometimes when the Stupidity Meter runs this high, as it does with your response, I have to remember the saying - "you can't fix stupid" -- it should be the GLP slogan...
 Quoting: OP 27264534


OP, as someone who once also assumed the truth of the conventional wisdom of the greatness of Lincoln, please realize you have only been told the "winner's" side of the story.

As others have pointed out, Lincoln is arguably the WORST president in that he forever undermined state's rights, fundamentally changing the relationship between the federal and state government that was so carefully defined by the Founders [To be fair, the Founders fucked up by never make it clear if state's could secede, but Lincoln definitely did not have to go to war over the issue.]

Personally, I don't think he was that bad, but certainly there are a lot of myths, like he was a crusader to end slavery. Completely not true. He never had any intention to end slavery, and even when he did pass the Emancipation Proclamation, it only effected a subset of Southern areas under Confederate control - it did not free all Southern slaves and it not free Northern slaves. Any objective analysis makes it pretty clear it was a strategic play to make life harder on the Southern enemy.

Anyway, before you mindlessly repeat that Lincoln was the greatest, do some research. And remember that the people feeding you that conventional wisdom have shown no interest in the protection of your liberty.

They have agenda, and declaring Lincoln the greatest is part of that agenda.
 Quoting: CrazyEyesThreadKilla


bump
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Lincoln was by far the worst president ever...he started a war on his own people over taxes!

You call that great?

I call that Genocide.


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Re: The undisputed greatest president - Lincoln - was bad-mouthed by half the people in his time, too!
It seems that the bad-mouthers have survived to this day, which is no surprise, but without Lincoln, the USA would likely have perished over a hundred years ago.
 Quoting: OP 27257578


The southern states would've been much better off if it had happened that way. Now we got all these bleeding heart, gay lib-tards to deal with.
 Quoting: Garman906


Wow, sometimes when the Stupidity Meter runs this high, as it does with your response, I have to remember the saying - "you can't fix stupid" -- it should be the GLP slogan...
 Quoting: OP 27264534


OP, as someone who once also assumed the truth of the conventional wisdom of the greatness of Lincoln, please realize you have only been told the "winner's" side of the story.

As others have pointed out, Lincoln is arguably the WORST president in that he forever undermined state's rights, fundamentally changing the relationship between the federal and state government that was so carefully defined by the Founders [To be fair, the Founders fucked up by never make it clear if state's could secede, but Lincoln definitely did not have to go to war over the issue.]

Personally, I don't think he was that bad, but certainly there are a lot of myths, like he was a crusader to end slavery. Completely not true. He never had any intention to end slavery, and even when he did pass the Emancipation Proclamation, it only effected a subset of Southern areas under Confederate control - it did not free all Southern slaves and it not free Northern slaves. Any objective analysis makes it pretty clear it was a strategic play to make life harder on the Southern enemy.

Anyway, before you mindlessly repeat that Lincoln was the greatest, do some research. And remember that the people feeding you that conventional wisdom have shown no interest in the protection of your liberty. They have agenda, and declaring Lincoln the greatest is part of that agenda.
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OP is obviously a dipshit, so don't waste time trying to explain. This shit is way over his/her head.
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Andrew Jackson was the only president to rid the country of its Rothschild debt, which was brought back soon after. What would the world have done all these years without the inbred Rothschilds? As a Rothschild mother once said, "If my sons didn't won't war, there would be none."
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You are obviously an idiot and have NEVER read any history in your entire entitled life. Go back to the plantation cotton picker.
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And you are speaking of yourself with that description. I am well-read in regards to Lincoln.

There are two sides to Lincoln's legacy...and it does not surprise me that the GLP crowd is mostly in the dark once again...
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GAG. You can not possibly be comparing President Lincoln to President Obama.
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It seems that the bad-mouthers have survived to this day, which is no surprise, but without Lincoln, the USA would likely have perished over a hundred years ago.
 Quoting: OP 27257578


The southern states would've been much better off if it had happened that way. Now we got all these bleeding heart, gay lib-tards to deal with.
 Quoting: Garman906


Wow, sometimes when the Stupidity Meter runs this high, as it does with your response, I have to remember the saying - "you can't fix stupid" -- it should be the GLP slogan...
 Quoting: OP 27264534


OP, as someone who once also assumed the truth of the conventional wisdom of the greatness of Lincoln, please realize you have only been told the "winner's" side of the story.

As others have pointed out, Lincoln is arguably the WORST president in that he forever undermined state's rights, fundamentally changing the relationship between the federal and state government that was so carefully defined by the Founders [To be fair, the Founders fucked up by never make it clear if state's could secede, but Lincoln definitely did not have to go to war over the issue.]

Personally, I don't think he was that bad, but certainly there are a lot of myths, like he was a crusader to end slavery. Completely not true. He never had any intention to end slavery, and even when he did pass the Emancipation Proclamation, it only effected a subset of Southern areas under Confederate control - it did not free all Southern slaves and it not free Northern slaves. Any objective analysis makes it pretty clear it was a strategic play to make life harder on the Southern enemy.

Anyway, before you mindlessly repeat that Lincoln was the greatest, do some research. And remember that the people feeding you that conventional wisdom have shown no interest in the protection of your liberty. They have agenda, and declaring Lincoln the greatest is part of that agenda.
 Quoting: CrazyEyesThreadKilla


A very good post
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GAG. You can not possibly be comparing President Lincoln to President Obama.
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I did not say Obama was a great president - only time will tell that, and not the current swarm of unenlightened and/or brainwashed critics.

Hey, but nobody's perfect...so I'll try not to judge...

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