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Message Subject Pastor Hale Saw Obama Re-elected A Year Ago in a Prophetic Dream
Poster Handle ANHEDONIC
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- Paster Hale is not a prophet

- The future is not static

- How can we have free-will if the future is already set in stone???
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Um, because we are not God. Only God is God. Prophecies have been around since the beginning and have been spot on to the detail. SOMEONE has to know the future. It's common sense. Free will is undisturbed by foreknowledge of certain aspects of the future. That's why more than anything, cataclysms are foretold and not just any old thing. Lord willing, read Romans Ch8-11 (KJV). Even the chosen elect can lose salvation and even the worst of sinners can be saved. A clock maker and a watch.
 Quoting: cmoG530


Cataclysms are foretold because the solar system's movement is cyclical. Why do you think there are periodic/repeating ELE's every X number of years?

Don't trust anyone who tells you they know exactly what the future holds.... Reality is subjective.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Here's a thought;



If there is no God, then all that exists is time and chance acting on matter. If this is true then the difference between your thoughts and mine correspond to the difference between shaking up a bottle of Mountain Dew and a bottle of Dr. Pepper. You simply fizz atheistically and I fizz theistically. This means that you do not hold to atheism because it is true , but rather because of a series of chemical reactions… … Morality, tragedy, and sorrow are equally evanescent. They are all empty sensations created by the chemical reactions of the brain, in turn created by too much pizza the night before. If there is no God, then all abstractions are chemical epiphenomena, like swamp gas over fetid water. This means that we have no reason for assigning truth and falsity to the chemical fizz we call reasoning or right and wrong to the irrational reaction we call morality. If no God, mankind is a set of bi-pedal carbon units of mostly water. And nothing else.
Douglas Wilson

The atheist can appeal to nothing absolute, nothing objectively true for all people, it is just mere opinion enforced by might. The Christian appeals to a standard outside himself/herself in which truth and qualitative values can be made sense of.
Peter Huff

My argument against God was that the universe seemed so cruel and unjust. But how had I got this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line. What was I comparing this universe with when I called it unjust? If the whole show was bad and senseless from A to Z, so to speak, why did I, who was supposed to be part of the show, find myself in such a violent reaction against it?... Of course I could have given up my idea of justice by saying it was nothing but a private idea of my own. But if I did that, then my argument against God collapsed too--for the argument depended on saying the world was really unjust, not simply that it did not happen to please my fancies. Thus, in the very act of trying to prove that God did not exist - in other words, that the whole of reality was senseless - I found I was forced to assume that one part of reality - namely my idea of justice - was full of sense. If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning: just as, if there were no light in the universe and therefore no creatures with eyes, we should never have known it was dark. Dark would be without meaning.
C.S. Lewis

Science can tell us how to do many things, but it can not tell us what ought to be done.
Author Unknown

If God would concede me His omnipotence for 24 hours, you would see how many changes I would make in the world. But if He gave me His wisdom too, I would leave things as they are.
J.M.L. Monsabre

If the solar system was brought about by an accidental collision, then the appearance of organic life on this planet was also an accident, and the whole evolution of Man was an accident too. If so, then all our present thoughts are mere accidents - the accidental by-product of the movement of atoms. And this holds for the thoughts of the materialists and astronomers as well as for anyone else's. But if their thoughts - i.e., Materialism and Astronomy - are mere accidental by-products, why should we believe them to be true? I see no reason for believing that one accident should be able to give me a correct account of all the other accidents. It's like expecting the accidental shape taken by the splash when you upset a milk-jug should give you a correct account of how the jug was made and why it was upset.
C.S. Lewis
 Quoting: cmoG530


Didn't we just have this same conversation in another thread a week ago? I told you then I'm NOT an aetheist. Did you completely forget or not even bother to read my reply?

'God' is not some human-like personality up in the heavens controlling every minute aspect of our reality and our personal fate. Stop personifying 'God' and find peace within. Why is it so unthinkable to conceptualize that the Creation was set into motion and given the FREE WILL to adapt and evolve on its own??? One can believe in a higher power but to start personifying this higher power and believing that outcomes of free will are the result of behind the scenes manipulation & interference from above - that's where the insanity begins.
 
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