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In the Psalms, it is said that God brings down the proud and lifts up the humble. Who are ‘the proud’?

 
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In the Psalms, it is said that God brings down the proud and lifts up the humble. Who are ‘the proud’?
"In the Psalms, it is said that God brings down the proud and lifts up the humble. Who are ‘the proud’? All those who, simply because they have a certain intellectual ability, count only on themselves. They don’t recognize the existence of a higher intelligence that governs the universe; they trust only in their limited brain. This is why they will be brought down. In other words, they will be deprived of some of those abilities they prize so highly, whereas those who do not have this absolute self-confidence, who say to the Lord, ‘You alone possess the light. Enter into me, Lord; inspire me,’ possess true humility. Thanks to this humility, their minds become more penetrating, and the mysteries of the universe begin to reveal themselves to them.

Pride is a fault of the intellect. The proud rely too much on the way they see and understand things. It never occurs to them that there might be better points of view about things. No, no, their reasoning is faultless. Well, it is hardly surprising if their thinking becomes more narrow and rigid with each passing year. "

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Re: In the Psalms, it is said that God brings down the proud and lifts up the humble. Who are ‘the proud’?
"In the Psalms, it is said that God brings down the proud and lifts up the humble. Who are ‘the proud’? All those who, simply because they have a certain intellectual ability, count only on themselves. They don’t recognize the existence of a higher intelligence that governs the universe; they trust only in their limited brain. This is why they will be brought down. In other words, they will be deprived of some of those abilities they prize so highly, whereas those who do not have this absolute self-confidence, who say to the Lord, ‘You alone possess the light. Enter into me, Lord; inspire me,’ possess true humility. Thanks to this humility, their minds become more penetrating, and the mysteries of the universe begin to reveal themselves to them.

Pride is a fault of the intellect. The proud rely too much on the way they see and understand things. It never occurs to them that there might be better points of view about things. No, no, their reasoning is faultless. Well, it is hardly surprising if their thinking becomes more narrow and rigid with each passing year. "

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Obviously Willard Romney.
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Re: In the Psalms, it is said that God brings down the proud and lifts up the humble. Who are ‘the proud’?
King Nebuchazzar claimed he built the palace and God immediately banished him to live with the animals until he recognized God was sovereign

Pharaoh claimed that he created the Nile. God then said Egypt would NEVER again be a great nation.

Moses, in a moment of anger, said "must WE bring you water?" and God then didn't allow Moses to enter the promised land.


It is claiming the works of God as your own. God is sovereign, NOT man.
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proud might be arrogant
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Re: In the Psalms, it is said that God brings down the proud and lifts up the humble. Who are ‘the proud’?
the ones who wrote the psalms
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black people
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It depends on the time and place. History has many examples. The most recent is the Republican Party. Some of us have tried to warn them, but it fell on deaf ears.

Now it's in the hands of our Heavenly Father
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Re: In the Psalms, it is said that God brings down the proud and lifts up the humble. Who are ‘the proud’?
This is interesting you bring this up.

I was talking to an older gentlemen acquaintance this weekend, and he was kind of grilling me about what "success" in life is, in a Socratic fashion.

He asked me what it means to be "poor in spirit," in Jesus' expression, "Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."

He offered that it meant to be without pride.


I am currently trying to read a book he gave me, "The Sermon on the Mount: The Key to Success in Life," by Emmet Fox, an older classic, of sorts.
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Re: In the Psalms, it is said that God brings down the proud and lifts up the humble. Who are ‘the proud’?
This is interesting you bring this up.

I was talking to an older gentlemen acquaintance this weekend, and he was kind of grilling me about what "success" in life is, in a Socratic fashion.

He asked me what it means to be "poor in spirit," in Jesus' expression, "Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."

He offered that it meant to be without pride.


I am currently trying to read a book he gave me, "The Sermon on the Mount: The Key to Success in Life," by Emmet Fox, an older classic, of sorts.
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Regarding the bold, I think there's a notation in a Bible a have that it "poor in spirit" = not spiritually arrogant.
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Re: Poor in spirit = not spiritually arrogant.

Thanks. ...Well, yes. For my purposes, I would consider that the same.
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Re: In the Psalms, it is said that God brings down the proud and lifts up the humble. Who are ‘the proud’?
Thanks OP. ...This general theme keeps popping up lately for me. Interesting. I do feel it is something I need to look at, in myself at this time.
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Re: In the Psalms, it is said that God brings down the proud and lifts up the humble. Who are ‘the proud’?
The proud = the hardened hearts. Like in egypt when the plagues came upon them..Too proud to release the hebrews/
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Re: In the Psalms, it is said that God brings down the proud and lifts up the humble. Who are ‘the proud’?
"In the Psalms, it is said that God brings down the proud and lifts up the humble. Who are ‘the proud’? All those who, simply because they have a certain intellectual ability, count only on themselves. They don’t recognize the existence of a higher intelligence that governs the universe; they trust only in their limited brain. This is why they will be brought down. In other words, they will be deprived of some of those abilities they prize so highly, whereas those who do not have this absolute self-confidence, who say to the Lord, ‘You alone possess the light. Enter into me, Lord; inspire me,’ possess true humility. Thanks to this humility, their minds become more penetrating, and the mysteries of the universe begin to reveal themselves to them.

Pride is a fault of the intellect. The proud rely too much on the way they see and understand things. It never occurs to them that there might be better points of view about things. No, no, their reasoning is faultless. Well, it is hardly surprising if their thinking becomes more narrow and rigid with each passing year. "

hf
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Obviously Willard Romney.
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Re: In the Psalms, it is said that God brings down the proud and lifts up the humble. Who are ‘the proud’?
Those who look down on others and demand admiration because they are deprived of the realization of God's unconditional Love for them.
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Re: In the Psalms, it is said that God brings down the proud and lifts up the humble. Who are ‘the proud’?
"A proud person is one who imagines he is dependent on nothing and no one, exactly like a lamp which claims to be the source of light, forgetting that the power station supplies the current. One who is humble, on the contrary, knows that he is not an isolated being, that he is not independent, and that if he does not remain linked to heaven, he will have neither force, light nor wisdom. He senses that he is a link in an infinite chain, the conductor of a cosmic energy which comes from afar and flows through him to all other human beings. A proud person forgets the source of the currents which manifest through him; he believes he is dependent only upon himself, and sooner or later he loses everything. The humble person is a valley irrigated by the water that descends from the peaks to fertilise the plains; he receives forces that pour forth constantly from the mountains and thus knows abundance. We have not yet understood all the riches that humility holds for us."

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Re: In the Psalms, it is said that God brings down the proud and lifts up the humble. Who are ‘the proud’?
Ego centric people.hf
'Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.' - Dr. Seuss
'love has no opposite as it is the divine solvent that ends duality.' - m'Lord
'Be the love that you are' -m'Lord
The amount of love and good feelings you have at the end of your life is equal to the love and good feelings you create during your life.- mine
Yes, the things that others think, say, or do will sometimes hurt you— until they do
not anymore.What will get you from here to there most quickly is total honesty—
being willing to assert, acknowledge, and declare exactly how you feel about a thing.
Say your truth—kindly, but fully and completely. Live your truth, gently, but totally
and consistently. Change your truth easily and quickly when your experience brings
you new clarity.-God

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Re: In the Psalms, it is said that God brings down the proud and lifts up the humble. Who are ‘the proud’?
Ego centric people.hf
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Your 777 God?
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Ego centric people.hf
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Your 777 God?
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huh? Sorry, I have no clue what you mean. hf
'Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.' - Dr. Seuss
'love has no opposite as it is the divine solvent that ends duality.' - m'Lord
'Be the love that you are' -m'Lord
The amount of love and good feelings you have at the end of your life is equal to the love and good feelings you create during your life.- mine
Yes, the things that others think, say, or do will sometimes hurt you— until they do
not anymore.What will get you from here to there most quickly is total honesty—
being willing to assert, acknowledge, and declare exactly how you feel about a thing.
Say your truth—kindly, but fully and completely. Live your truth, gently, but totally
and consistently. Change your truth easily and quickly when your experience brings
you new clarity.-God

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Re: In the Psalms, it is said that God brings down the proud and lifts up the humble. Who are ‘the proud’?
If you have an ego, the size of of an universe - everyone is my servant! - it's hard to see of course the forest, due to the many trees ...
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Re: In the Psalms, it is said that God brings down the proud and lifts up the humble. Who are ‘the proud’?
Here is the translation:

Everyone who doesn't want to end up as my willing tool, will be on my hit list.

What he doesn't tell though:

You are not in the universe, the universe is IN you(r mind) and so is this entity. :)
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Re: In the Psalms, it is said that God brings down the proud and lifts up the humble. Who are ‘the proud’?
"In the Psalms, it is said that God brings down the proud and lifts up the humble. Who are ‘the proud’? All those who, simply because they have a certain intellectual ability, count only on themselves. They don’t recognize the existence of a higher intelligence that governs the universe; they trust only in their limited brain. This is why they will be brought down. In other words, they will be deprived of some of those abilities they prize so highly, whereas those who do not have this absolute self-confidence, who say to the Lord, ‘You alone possess the light. Enter into me, Lord; inspire me,’ possess true humility. Thanks to this humility, their minds become more penetrating, and the mysteries of the universe begin to reveal themselves to them.

Pride is a fault of the intellect. The proud rely too much on the way they see and understand things. It never occurs to them that there might be better points of view about things. No, no, their reasoning is faultless. Well, it is hardly surprising if their thinking becomes more narrow and rigid with each passing year. "

hf
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the proud is everyone stuck on themselves and their attitude of being superior

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