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i'm in kansas and i have never seen people this down

 
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not because of obama or the democrats, its obamacare, its going to hit us hard
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you all rich ass doctors in kansas?
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no, actually most of us grew up on farms except for a few cities
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Agreed. People just don't really seem to get it though.
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most of the planet understands meicare for all, except for americans.

ya'll yanks are stupid butt
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No, its the simple fact that I look at the USPS and then extrapolate the quality of service / facilities / budgeting to obummercare, and come to the conclusion it would be an utter fucking disaster to have the .GOVCORP in control of my healthcare.

I want to purchase health insurance like car insurance. End of story. Repeal that 70s HMO shit and de-link healthcare from employment!!

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not because of obama or the democrats, its obamacare, its going to hit us hard
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I bet you have no idea how it is going to hit you at all, you people just slurp up the right-wing fascist rhetoric like it was kool-aid.

koolaid
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not because of obama or the democrats, its obamacare, its going to hit us hard
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I bet you have no idea how it is going to hit you at all, you people just slurp up the right-wing fascist rhetoric like it was kool-aid.

koolaid
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no, again, that would be the liberals
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Re: i'm in kansas and i have never seen people this down
In what part of KS do you live?

Topeka here...

People will no longer be able to find full time work with benefits. Everyone with decent health insurance will likely lose what they have.

I might lose my career eventually. Work in the coal fired power plant business
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not because of obama or the democrats, its obamacare, its going to hit us hard
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I bet you have no idea how it is going to hit you at all, you people just slurp up the right-wing fascist rhetoric like it was kool-aid.

koolaid
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Huh?
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Agreed. People just don't really seem to get it though.
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most of the planet understands meicare for all, except for americans.
ya'll yanks are stupid
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Obama care isn't going to work. It's a lousy system and it will crash within a year.
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^ This ^
And it will also crash the financial system, but not until all Americans are digitally ID'd in the new IRS Obamacare tracking system.
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My daughter lives in Kansas and in spite of claiming allegiance to Romney after the GOP convention, she voted Obama. She wizened up as time went on. Yay she's off to a good start for a first time voter!

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What was her reason of switching?
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I'm not really sure, but I was really surprised because in high school she even supported George Bush.

I talked to her today and I was totally surprised that she voted for Obama. I asked her why and all she said was "he seems like such a jerk! He just doesn't seem like a nice guy."

I wasn't expecting a thorough analysis of talking points, she's only 18.
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Yeah I can understand an 18 yr old being confused. Biden has been a class act through the election. That's probably what won her over.
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I wonder about a couple of personal things that may have influenced her decision.. she's spent the last year and a half having to go with no health insurance and a couple of serious illnesses, also she got grants for community college, so it might be a pocketbook decision.
Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid,
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not because of obama or the democrats, its obamacare, its going to hit us hard
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I bet you have no idea how it is going to hit you at all, you people just slurp up the right-wing fascist rhetoric like it was kool-aid.

koolaid
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Huh?
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Please don't talk to the exhibits.
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Re: i'm in kansas and i have never seen people this down
In what part of KS do you live?

Topeka here...

People will no longer be able to find full time work with benefits. Everyone with decent health insurance will likely lose what they have.

I might lose my career eventually. Work in the coal fired power plant business
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wichita, and what your saying is what i've been hearing all day. there's not much we can do at this point but wait
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What was her reason of switching?
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I'm not really sure, but I was really surprised because in high school she even supported George Bush.

I talked to her today and I was totally surprised that she voted for Obama. I asked her why and all she said was "he seems like such a jerk! He just doesn't seem like a nice guy."

I wasn't expecting a thorough analysis of talking points, she's only 18.
 Quoting: DOT 2 DOT




Yeah I can understand an 18 yr old being confused. Biden has been a class act through the election. That's probably what won her over.
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I wonder about a couple of personal things that may have influenced her decision.. she's spent the last year and a half having to go with no health insurance and a couple of serious illnesses, also she got grants for community college, so it might be a pocketbook decision.
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Oh holy shit.
She doesn't realize that there will be no "free" healthcare, doesn't she? There will be real taxes, fines, and lack of care. That's Obamacare.
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My daughter lives in Kansas and in spite of claiming allegiance to Romney after the GOP convention, she voted Obama. She wizened up as time went on. Yay she's off to a good start for a first time voter!

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What was her reason of switching?
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I'll bet the little munchkin saw this Obama campaign ad and liked it [link to www.youtube.com]
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people are in shock

if you are intelligent and see all the obama destruction, you just thought to yourself, "Others see it. People will make the right choice"

I am floored at the stupidity of the American people...I just got back from san francisco, the workers paradise. every meal was $25 bucks minimum. gas 4+, nickle and dime you for everything, homelessness, decay.....

I am depressed
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Most people are loud-mouthed stupid fucking idiots. You just figuring that out? Lazy stupid big-mouthed know-it-alls with stupid reasoning. Women are the easiest...just say you're all for abortion and the votes pour in. Goes all the way back to...the garden of Eden, I guess.
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My daughter lives in Kansas and in spite of claiming allegiance to Romney after the GOP convention, she voted Obama. She wizened up as time went on. Yay she's off to a good start for a first time voter!

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What was her reason of switching?
 Quoting: sonic doom


I'll bet the little munchkin saw this Obama campaign ad and liked it [link to www.youtube.com]
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Sadly that is the mentality of the Obama crowd. The Jersey shore, big brother, and Kardashian crowd ate it up.
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I'm not really sure, but I was really surprised because in high school she even supported George Bush.

I talked to her today and I was totally surprised that she voted for Obama. I asked her why and all she said was "he seems like such a jerk! He just doesn't seem like a nice guy."

I wasn't expecting a thorough analysis of talking points, she's only 18.
 Quoting: DOT 2 DOT




Yeah I can understand an 18 yr old being confused. Biden has been a class act through the election. That's probably what won her over.
 Quoting: sonic doom


I wonder about a couple of personal things that may have influenced her decision.. she's spent the last year and a half having to go with no health insurance and a couple of serious illnesses, also she got grants for community college, so it might be a pocketbook decision.
 Quoting: DOT 2 DOT


Oh holy shit.
She doesn't realize that there will be no "free" healthcare, doesn't she? There will be real taxes, fines, and lack of care. That's Obamacare.
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You don't think you're paying (too much) for it now? You enjoy giving your money to insurance companies that deny coverage when you finally need it? Think it all the way through, and be honest.
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The day will come when you're grateful for affordable care.

Those people are down because they are in Kansas. I would be too.
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actually its a really good place to live, little crime and its full of people who would literally give you the shirt off their back
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Kansas is amazing! My in-laws are from there, and we love to visit. They're right in the middle of 'no where'. Clean air, can see for miles, super friendly people.
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Yeah I can understand an 18 yr old being confused. Biden has been a class act through the election. That's probably what won her over.
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I wonder about a couple of personal things that may have influenced her decision.. she's spent the last year and a half having to go with no health insurance and a couple of serious illnesses, also she got grants for community college, so it might be a pocketbook decision.
 Quoting: DOT 2 DOT


Oh holy shit.
She doesn't realize that there will be no "free" healthcare, doesn't she? There will be real taxes, fines, and lack of care. That's Obamacare.
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You don't think you're paying (too much) for it now? You enjoy giving your money to insurance companies that deny coverage when you finally need it? Think it all the way through, and be honest.
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I like to have the choice of having healthcare or not without paying a fine.
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Yeah I can understand an 18 yr old being confused. Biden has been a class act through the election. That's probably what won her over.
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I wonder about a couple of personal things that may have influenced her decision.. she's spent the last year and a half having to go with no health insurance and a couple of serious illnesses, also she got grants for community college, so it might be a pocketbook decision.
 Quoting: DOT 2 DOT


Oh holy shit.
She doesn't realize that there will be no "free" healthcare, doesn't she? There will be real taxes, fines, and lack of care. That's Obamacare.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27255929


You don't think you're paying (too much) for it now? You enjoy giving your money to insurance companies that deny coverage when you finally need it? Think it all the way through, and be honest.
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your not understanding the entire concept, we don't want to be told by the government that we have to have something, there's enough of that going on already, not to mention what its going to do to small business'
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I've never bought health insurance and never will. The IRS isn't going to engage in collecting any "penalties" for not having insurance, so good luck with that.
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people are in shock

if you are intelligent and see all the obama destruction, you just thought to yourself, "Others see it. People will make the right choice"

I am floored at the stupidity of the American people...I just got back from san francisco, the workers paradise. every meal was $25 bucks minimum. gas 4+, nickle and dime you for everything, homelessness, decay.....

I am depressed
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Most people are loud-mouthed stupid fucking idiots. You just figuring that out? Lazy stupid big-mouthed know-it-alls with stupid reasoning. Women are the easiest...just say you're all for abortion and the votes pour in. Goes all the way back to...the garden of Eden, I guess.
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Frankly I think it's time to take a middle of the road approach to this problem.. firstly.. avoiding as many unwanted pregnancies as possible.. partly by discouraging teen sex.. and partly by making effective birth control readily available. And I don't want to hear objections about the cost.. an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. It's much cheaper to provide birth control pills than to pay for welfare births and ongoing welfare costs.

Secondly.. late term abortions are abhorrent. It's totally irresponsible to postpone a decision beyond the first trimester.

But no, it goes back and forth volleying between the "all or nothing" approach.
Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid,
it is true that most stupid people are conservative.

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As far as small businesses, yeah! Cut everybody's hours to part-time and just hire more part-timers, or fire enough people to get your employee numbers below the threshold of having to buy anything.
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Agreed. People just don't really seem to get it though.
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most of the planet understands meicare for all, except for americans.

ya'll yanks are stupid butt
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Australia population 22 million
United States of America population 315 million + 12 million illegal aliens = 327 million

The US population is FIFTEEN times the size of the Aussie population AND 47% or ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THREE MILLION people pay ZERO taxes, but are now going to be entitled to "unlimited" free healthcare.

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You must always have someone do your taxes for you...if you make even under 1K per year, it's taxed. So 47% are welfare moms? I doubt that stat!

The withholding system sure does confuse a lot of folks...apparently even a number of business owners I've known....
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people are in shock

if you are intelligent and see all the obama destruction, you just thought to yourself, "Others see it. People will make the right choice"

I am floored at the stupidity of the American people...I just got back from san francisco, the workers paradise. every meal was $25 bucks minimum. gas 4+, nickle and dime you for everything, homelessness, decay.....

I am depressed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15433861


Most people are loud-mouthed stupid fucking idiots. You just figuring that out? Lazy stupid big-mouthed know-it-alls with stupid reasoning. Women are the easiest...just say you're all for abortion and the votes pour in. Goes all the way back to...the garden of Eden, I guess.
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Frankly I think it's time to take a middle of the road approach to this problem.. firstly.. avoiding as many unwanted pregnancies as possible.. partly by discouraging teen sex.. and partly by making effective birth control readily available. And I don't want to hear objections about the cost.. an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. It's much cheaper to provide birth control pills than to pay for welfare births and ongoing welfare costs.

Secondly.. late term abortions are abhorrent. It's totally irresponsible to postpone a decision beyond the first trimester.

But no, it goes back and forth volleying between the "all or nothing" approach.
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A woman has the right to choose what she wants to do and I respect that. I don't want to pay for her decision with tax dollars. Second you say late term is irresponsible? Well your potus disagrees, he has voted in favor of infanticide 4 times.
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people are in shock

if you are intelligent and see all the obama destruction, you just thought to yourself, "Others see it. People will make the right choice"

I am floored at the stupidity of the American people...I just got back from san francisco, the workers paradise. every meal was $25 bucks minimum. gas 4+, nickle and dime you for everything, homelessness, decay.....

I am depressed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15433861


Most people are loud-mouthed stupid fucking idiots. You just figuring that out? Lazy stupid big-mouthed know-it-alls with stupid reasoning. Women are the easiest...just say you're all for abortion and the votes pour in. Goes all the way back to...the garden of Eden, I guess.
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Frankly I think it's time to take a middle of the road approach to this problem.. firstly.. avoiding as many unwanted pregnancies as possible.. partly by discouraging teen sex.. and partly by making effective birth control readily available. And I don't want to hear objections about the cost.. an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. It's much cheaper to provide birth control pills than to pay for welfare births and ongoing welfare costs.

Secondly.. late term abortions are abhorrent. It's totally irresponsible to postpone a decision beyond the first trimester.

But no, it goes back and forth volleying between the "all or nothing" approach.
 Quoting: DOT 2 DOT


A woman has the right to choose what she wants to do and I respect that. I don't want to pay for her decision with tax dollars. Second you say late term is irresponsible? Well your potus disagrees, he has voted in favor of infanticide 4 times.
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I feel no need to agree with everything that ANYONE says. I evaluate each topic on it's own merits, or lack thereof myself.
Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid,
it is true that most stupid people are conservative.

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people are in shock

if you are intelligent and see all the obama destruction, you just thought to yourself, "Others see it. People will make the right choice"

I am floored at the stupidity of the American people...I just got back from san francisco, the workers paradise. every meal was $25 bucks minimum. gas 4+, nickle and dime you for everything, homelessness, decay.....

I am depressed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15433861


Most people are loud-mouthed stupid fucking idiots. You just figuring that out? Lazy stupid big-mouthed know-it-alls with stupid reasoning. Women are the easiest...just say you're all for abortion and the votes pour in. Goes all the way back to...the garden of Eden, I guess.
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Frankly I think it's time to take a middle of the road approach to this problem.. firstly.. avoiding as many unwanted pregnancies as possible.. partly by discouraging teen sex.. and partly by making effective birth control readily available. And I don't want to hear objections about the cost.. an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. It's much cheaper to provide birth control pills than to pay for welfare births and ongoing welfare costs.

Secondly.. late term abortions are abhorrent. It's totally irresponsible to postpone a decision beyond the first trimester.

But no, it goes back and forth volleying between the "all or nothing" approach.
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yet, you vote for Obama whom is the champion of late term abortions, so your comments carry no weight
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people are in shock

if you are intelligent and see all the obama destruction, you just thought to yourself, "Others see it. People will make the right choice"

I am floored at the stupidity of the American people...I just got back from san francisco, the workers paradise. every meal was $25 bucks minimum. gas 4+, nickle and dime you for everything, homelessness, decay.....

I am depressed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15433861


Most people are loud-mouthed stupid fucking idiots. You just figuring that out? Lazy stupid big-mouthed know-it-alls with stupid reasoning. Women are the easiest...just say you're all for abortion and the votes pour in. Goes all the way back to...the garden of Eden, I guess.
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Frankly I think it's time to take a middle of the road approach to this problem.. firstly.. avoiding as many unwanted pregnancies as possible.. partly by discouraging teen sex.. and partly by making effective birth control readily available. And I don't want to hear objections about the cost.. an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. It's much cheaper to provide birth control pills than to pay for welfare births and ongoing welfare costs.

Secondly.. late term abortions are abhorrent. It's totally irresponsible to postpone a decision beyond the first trimester.

But no, it goes back and forth volleying between the "all or nothing" approach.
 Quoting: DOT 2 DOT



yet, you vote for Obama whom is the champion of late term abortions, so your comments carry no weight
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Ummm.. abortion was not the ONLY issue in this election.

Sadly, we have a two party system, and that's just the way it is. I don't have to "buy in" to every item on the left agenda, nor do you have to "buy in" to every item on the right agenda.

Ideally we would have the ability to vote for issues, NOT personalities. But it's easier to simply present two options to the populace.

We have to weigh the pros and cons of each issue, then decide which side carries the greatest weight based on relative values. That's built in to the system.
Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid,
it is true that most stupid people are conservative.

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Because it is easier to give someone the finger than a helping hand.
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What a bunch of whiney delusional fucks you all seem to be.

Jesus fucking Christ give it all a fucking break and go do something Goddamn fucking productive.

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tell them to stick together and doctors will take cash
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Hope so.
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My daughter lives in Kansas and in spite of claiming allegiance to Romney after the GOP convention, she voted Obama. She wizened up as time went on. Yay she's off to a good start for a first time voter!

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What was her reason of switching?
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Probably influence from an idiot mother.
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As far as small businesses, yeah! Cut everybody's hours to part-time and just hire more part-timers, or fire enough people to get your employee numbers below the threshold of having to buy anything.
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