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My sister called me today, she's a doctor.

 
SeekTruth

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11/08/2012 12:52 AM
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My BF's Mom is a psychiatrist. Not the 'sit down and tell me about your feelings' person in an office, but the 'why did you feel that swallowing shards of glass was the best route to death' in a hospital type(she does see patients in her office 2 days/wk as well).

This lady is 4'11" and weighs 95 lbs and has to calmly deal with and treat patients who have just killed people, but were injured during arrest. So, I'm sorry, but it seems like she earns her "comfortable" living.

She drives a 9 year old (non-luxury) SUV and lives in a 2600 SF house she's had for 20 years (it is in a nice part of town, though). She very rarely buys anything nice, expensive...or actually at all for herself. She eats all meals outside of work at home. The only time she ever has dinner in a restaurant, it is a required business dinner with her practice. The money she doesn't spend on bills or putting away for retirement goes to helping her two children with their education costs.

I will admit that she's never *worried* about her finances, which is quite the luxury to some, including myself. My point is not all Dr's are rich a**holes flaunting their $$$ everywhere. Most do have to work very hard and deal with things other professions/people couldn't handle day-to-day.

As an example: most folks have worked in the food/hospitality industry at some point or another. You have all this customer service crap to worry and you can't just tell the public to f*ck-off (if you want to stay employed). Everyone in that industry, with all the dealing with different types of people all the time has days where they want to throw in the towel...imagine the worst possible customer a server, for example, could have...someone who is rude and vile, someone who was having an awful day before they sat at your table and now they want to make your life hell, they send back their half-eaten food, they get free stuff from management, they don't pay their bill, they make an enormous mess, and to top-it-all off one of their bratty, poorly behaved children had a sh*tty diaper and smeared sh*t all over the booth before they left...Now imagine that customer was naked the whole time. That'll give you an idea of what healthcare industry professionals go through every day.

Actually, just go to peopleofwalmart.com (or any other site with lots of different kinds of people on it) and imagine them naked...sometimes ( [link to www.peopleofwalmart.com] they've done half the work for you!
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Jubal Harshaw
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So, who is forcing the whiney emo cunt to keep working in the medical field?
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I come from a medical family as well (I'm the blacksheep banker of the bunch) and they are all extremely upset and worried about this, there are going to be a lot of unintended (at least you hope they're unintended) consequences to this boondoggle...

Community healthcare clinics are already shutting down.

There is already an extreme shortage of doctors taking medicaid and medicare, this is only going to get worse.

People are now finding out that the insurance plans they've had for years aren't going to meet Obamacare requirements, so they are being shuffled to more expensive policy's...

It's a nightmare...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


wonder why they chose that profession in the first place?? Money?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16361770


What's wrong with making money after you do eight years of college, internship, $500,000+ in student loans???

You damn well ought to make some money after all of that...

What are you a fuckin' Marxist Communist?!?!?
 Quoting: Saddletramp

I would really love to start looking at this type of thinking more critically,
I think it is at the root of most of our problems.
America is about "Look at that beautiful home, I am going to work and have one like that also"
but this attitude of "you should not have anything until I do" or
" I should have a nice home and you should be my servant" has been growing like a cancer.
Why are we tolerating this crap?
And why are we not addressing it for what it is.
Anti-American
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Because we have a new generation, largely new immigrants, who know deep down that they do not have the capability to achieve that beautiful home by hard work.

So they have to scramble the system around if they are to get more for themselves.
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cruise

You stupid fuck, hospitals treat indigent patients on a daily basis. Ability to pay is irrelevant.

Emergent patients are NOT turned away.
 Quoting: Debauchery


You are the stupid fuck. ER's are NOT a substitute for a real healthcare system. Plus charges are significantly more expensive. Finally, the cost for those that can't pay are passed on to the rest of us.
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He ASKED how it works here, He wanted to know if people are turned away if they are dying. I told him how it worked for poor people that needed emergency medical treatment but couldn't pay for it. Also informed him that you don't have to pay upfront to receive emergency treatment. It's a fact. What's your issue?

I wasn't advocating for people to just stroll into an ER for a cold, jack up a large bill and force taxpayers to handle it.

Calm the fuck down.
 Quoting: Debauchery


Yeah, Romney tried pedaling that shit, too. Those of us who work are paying for the poor...just at a premium. The Right's fight of Socialized medicine is stupid and hurtful.
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Seems that my costs are going up, not down, under the "Affordable Care Act". So that premium isn't as expensive as all the other shit that I have to drag around and pay for thru Obamacare, so that I can get care too.
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stfu douchebag
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truth is too unreal for this guy
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Never met anyone important enough to lie to.....
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so if im a patient, what should i expect?
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Most have a questionair that you are asked, including questions such as "Do you own a gun?", if yes, they then want to know if it is locked up, where it is, if there are children in the house and if you ever felt suicidal.
I know this for a Fact because it happened to me a couple of weeks ago.
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I work in a hospital and there have been other changes in getting ready for obamacare. One change that just came down the pipe in the last week is they have changed the staffing grids. Now nurses and pcts can have more patients. This is dangerous on so many levels. The unwork on is nephrology and inpatient dialysis. These patients are extremely ill. We also have pre kidney transplant patients. Changing the staffing grid so nurses have more patients is dangerous. Also, they have it where the patient care techs have 18 patients apiece. Now, bear in mind my hospital has also basically eleminated the phlebotomist position and ekg techsand techs do this. So, they do all blood draws, ekgs, vital signs, change linen, help patients with baths, feeding toileting, plus a myriad of other duties. It may not seem like much, but by increasing the patient load and combining several positions into one it puts the patients at risk. Also, something that really has nothing to do with patient care, but they are doing away with the employee pention plan. I am rambling, but I don't think anyone is going to be prepared for the changes coming down the pipe. I know we keep getting surprises every time a new memo comes out at work.
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damned
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11/08/2012 01:18 AM
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it goes so much further than just the medical industry, my brother in law works for the "evil" koch brothers, and a letter was sent to all employees today saying there would be massive layoffs as a result of obamacare
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Too fucking bad for your BIL. Maybe if the Kochs had been more fiscally responsible and not blown so much money on the disastrous Romney campaign...Maybe he should look for work with a reputable company.
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Pick whatever company you consider reputable. Betcha the same thing is happening there.
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a lady doctor?

now i've heard everything
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chuckle
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facepalm myself, screwed up meh posts

Last Edited by M.A.G.E on 11/08/2012 01:19 AM
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dbl post
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11/08/2012 01:23 AM
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to all the my uncle's sister's mothers are a Dr. fear mongerers... how does any of this effect the money they get from big pharma to prescribe and force un-needed drugs on people? you know the ones for all the made up diseases and psychological issues that rx manufacturers have them pretend exist.
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11/08/2012 01:29 AM
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so if im a patient, what should i expect?
 Quoting: MC Sqiggily D


I'm not totally sure of the big picture as much as she is but she is worried about the quality of care that people will get. There are issues with bringing new patients into a practice and the paperwork is excessive to say the least.
 Quoting: N3m3s1s


It's called eugenics.My sister has both her legs cut off today because of blood clots.UGHHHHHH.bump
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to all the my uncle's sister's mothers are a Dr. fear mongerers... how does any of this effect the money they get from big pharma to prescribe and force un-needed drugs on people? you know the ones for all the made up diseases and psychological issues that rx manufacturers have them pretend exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27289095


I keep hearing that doctors do this, but in my lifetime I've had a variety of different sorts of doctors and I cannot remember a single one, ever, not one, who seemed like a drug pusher to me.

Nurses yes. Nurses tell you wrong things. They tell you that vaccinations are required. Some do.

But doctors never talked that way to me.
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11/08/2012 01:31 AM
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so if im a patient, what should i expect?
 Quoting: MC Sqiggily D


I'm not totally sure of the big picture as much as she is but she is worried about the quality of care that people will get. There are issues with bringing new patients into a practice and the paperwork is excessive to say the least.
 Quoting: N3m3s1s


It's called eugenics.My sister has both her legs cut off today because of blood clots.UGHHHHHH.bump
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I am sorry about that. I hope things go well for her in the future.
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11/08/2012 01:32 AM
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Oh nooooooooooooo!

Doctors might have to trade in their Lexuses for a plain ol' Toyota...

NOOOOOOOO!
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so if im a patient, what should i expect?
 Quoting: MC Sqiggily D


don't sign your name for organ donation and prey you don't get lethal injury that could get you killed if not treated quickly enough. Also Add x 10 to your prayer strenght if your of any - blood type!
To live is to believe in the power of dreams! To dream is to believe in the power of love! To love is to Know the truth!
The Desire to Be fuel the belief that you Are which ignite the Will to Become which bring back forth the desire to be...
Let it be-come you! It means Stop seeking your higher self! It is seeking you! Stand still in your mind to calm the waters of your mind and then it shall find you, so you can ride those waves together!
your true self lies somewhere between your heart and your consciousness. It is called the heart consciousness,which is the creator, which is you!
The heart create the emotions and our mind evoke its purpose, from which we dream the life we live in order to imagine the nature of reality and finally remember love!

Be authentic, nobody else can do it for you!
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I assume Europe has something like what Obamacare is going to look like.
Any EU folks willing to chime in?
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11/08/2012 01:41 AM
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i have chronic lyme and I'm basically fucked now thanks to obamacare.

many of the treatments that help me live normally will now be illegal, too hard to find, or not even considered by the FDA.
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11/08/2012 01:46 AM
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stfu douchebag
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Completely and totally.

Too bad OPs sister isn't a shrink, she could treat herself AND him.



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Funny thing is that some of you trust a lying politician more than someone who lives and works in the industry. Go ask your doctor what they think.
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applause
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11/08/2012 01:50 AM
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Do you really have to pay cash to get fixed in the hospital in America.

What if you are severly injured or dying and you dont have enough money to pay them, what happens, or do you have to pay first.

I'm keen to understand how the system works now, and what affect this new system will have, could someone explain for me please.
 Quoting: Doommincus Maximus


If you become injured and end up in a hospital and you have no insurance, you are basically shit out of luck as they say here in the US.
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My sister is a doctor (OB), she called me today and said she had been crying since last night. She is beside herself. Now that the final nail has been driven into the US medical industry it's hit her hard.
Main issue for doctors is that they are being mandated too and regulated like never before. Most of Obamacare focuses on regulations, not the patient. That's what most people don't get. It's all about reporting back to the government. They will be determining your treatments and watching every facet of your "care".
This is scary. Take some time and dissect the bill. It's a whopper, makes our tax code look like 1st grade reading.
 Quoting: N3m3s1s


sigh

Thank you for posting this OP.

I feel for her...I'm glad to know she is one of the few who gets it.

hf
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Do you really have to pay cash to get fixed in the hospital in America.

What if you are severly injured or dying and you dont have enough money to pay them, what happens, or do you have to pay first.

I'm keen to understand how the system works now, and what affect this new system will have, could someone explain for me please.
 Quoting: Doommincus Maximus


If you become injured and end up in a hospital and you have no insurance, you are basically shit out of luck as they say here in the US.
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But now with obamacare we can all be shit out of luck
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11/08/2012 02:03 AM
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Socialized med has been in the works since Vietnam war in the USA. Start bringing in Pakis, Indians, Arab doctors so that when Socialized Med kicks in and thousands of US doctors quit from disgust or cannot afford to practice, the Foreign docs will take their place and work for peanuts since they dont have student loans. This is what was explained to me when discussing this issue with a member of an Asian state department. How come the US residency directors and hospitals are clambering to hire foreign doctors ? In my state ( Shitagan) 9 out of 10 doctors are Indian or Arab.
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IS SHE HOT ?? PICS ?
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Do you really have to pay cash to get fixed in the hospital in America.

What if you are severly injured or dying and you dont have enough money to pay them, what happens, or do you have to pay first.

I'm keen to understand how the system works now, and what affect this new system will have, could someone explain for me please.
 Quoting: Doommincus Maximus


If you become injured and end up in a hospital and you have no insurance, you are basically shit out of luck as they say here in the US.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13465130


But now with obamacare we can all be shit out of luck
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19202196


Do you really have to pay cash to get fixed in the hospital in America.

What if you are severly injured or dying and you dont have enough money to pay them, what happens, or do you have to pay first.

I'm keen to understand how the system works now, and what affect this new system will have, could someone explain for me please.
 Quoting: Doommincus Maximus


If you become injured and end up in a hospital and you have no insurance, you are basically shit out of luck as they say here in the US.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13465130


But now with obamacare we can all be shit out of luck
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19202196


In the US they're required by law to treat you if you have a life threatening emergency, private or public hospital. They will charge you through the roof however, so unless you're very low income (programs with discount or free treatment), those kinds of trips can be financially crippling if you don't have insurance.

Regardless of what they'd like you to believe, doctors make great money. This is an example pay scale:

[link to www1.salary.com]

With these changes, Doctor pay will most likely take a hit, and their accountability will increase, which is why they're complaining. I'd feel more sympathy for them if they weren't

A) one of the best paying professions in the world
B) employed by for-profit companies that drive premiums up to increase profits

Healthcare has enjoyed a free-for-all on the American public for half a century, it's high time we got control of it.
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I have a doctor who is a doctor who isn't my sister. He anticipates no change in the current (albiet shitty) healthcare system. However, I went to the ER with a kidney stone roughly six months ago and in the pre-screening/triage process I was asked if I had ever had any thoughts of harming myself or others. No of course was my answer and the Dr. said they had to ask this all the time now as protocol. 5 minutes later I was administered a monster shot of dilaudid, sat in the ER for about 4 hours not givin a fuck, got another monster D shortly thereafeter and then was admitted. At the tim I thought maybe they were just screening me for mental instability or drug abuse before they gave me the D. But in retrospect I'm not so sure.

So in another somewhat related incident sown the road I was at a rheumatologist because I have been having hip pain that is getting pretty nasty. He asks me the routine blah blah about the nature of the pain etc. Then he asks if I feel depressed. I say hey suffering through pain 24/7 can have a way of sucking the joy out of your life, but I'm dealing OK. So suddendly he's typing his fingers bloody on his laptop and I say what the fuck is that about. Well we have to keep a record of people who suffer from depression he say. Doing my best to keep my composure I say who the fuck ever said anything about any sort of clinical depression? I said being in pain sucks, thats all. Well he said as he closed his laptop we are required to document all patients who suffer from depression. I grabbed my jacket and split and will never go back but I suppose that is now on my 'permanent record' But hell they can go fuck themselves.

For the sake of full disclosure I really do feel that something needs to be done about the current state of healthcare in the US. As it is the people who pay for insurance also pay for all the people who don't have insurance. Obviously that can't go on forever because in the end nobody will be able to afford insurance.

But yea, I feel I have some pretty good first hand knowledge that there is some hocusfuckingpocus going on with the new Gov HC that wasn't going on prior.
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My sister is a doctor (OB), she called me today and said she had been crying since last night. She is beside herself. Now that the final nail has been driven into the US medical industry it's hit her hard.
Main issue for doctors is that they are being mandated too and regulated like never before. Most of Obamacare focuses on regulations, not the patient. That's what most people don't get. It's all about reporting back to the government. They will be determining your treatments and watching every facet of your "care".
This is scary. Take some time and dissect the bill. It's a whopper, makes our tax code look like 1st grade reading.
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Where has your ignorant sister been??? What do you think the HMO's and insurance companies have been doing for decades?!
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Insuring people, paying doctors, not governmental bureaucracy...if you ever work in any type (local, state, or federal government) you will rapidly change your mind about wanting government in any aspect of your life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10132842

Yup
Anytime the GOV sticks their fingers into something it get's more expensive. PERIOD.
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What do you think that Forward slogan they were running meant? It is the direction you will bend as they stick it to you.
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11/08/2012 02:40 AM
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I'm sorry, but the cost for healthcare in this country is INSANELY to expensive. There is absolutely no justification for the extreme costs for healthcare and pharmaceudicals.

Every single one of you know this as well...!!!!

All of you...!!!!
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I'm sorry, but the cost for healthcare in this country is INSANELY to expensive. There is absolutely no justification for the extreme costs for healthcare and pharmaceudicals.

Every single one of you know this as well...!!!!

All of you...!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16198217


So we should hand over control to Big Pharma (which controls a lot of our govt)

makes sense.

fucking idiot