My sister called me today, she's a doctor.

I would really love to start looking at this type of thinking more critically,
I think it is at the root of most of our problems.
America is about "Look at that beautiful home, I am going to work and have one like that also"
but this attitude of "you should not have anything until I do" or
" I should have a nice home and you should be my servant" has been growing like a cancer.
Why are we tolerating this crap?
And why are we not addressing it for what it is.
Anti-American

Some people have gone to TJ for treatment and allegedly been ok, others not.

But what anyone has to consider is the extreme violence going on there which is a risk in itself.

My uncle called me today, and told me about getting a prostate exam and a free reach-around by his doctor.

She went to school for the wrong reason, if she wanted to get rich she should not have went to med school and went to Wall St like I did. That was the best advice I received from an older doctor. "Kid if you are here just because of money you will hate it, not to mention the gravy train doesn't last forever".

It makes me sick we have doctors making 4-500k a year not complaining they will only be making in the 2's. Really how much do you need. I say that in an anti greedy way because it is a consistent form of income it is not like these doctors are burnt out by the age of 40 and in need of a profession change if they are not lucky enough to retire. They have a good 20 years ahead of them to branch out.

The majority that are voicing such complaints are on hospital boards and are not practicing anymore, they are greatly out of touch with the the actual doctors currently practicing. I somehow feel that the op is full of shit.

See previous post. ALREADY IS!

Not approved by tptb = license revocation

You will get a quick 5 minutes from your doc who will tell you nothing except stuff you already know and they will begin to be very rude to you as you age . You're just another claim to medicare , to them . They run there surgergies like factories , quick turn over for the money

I was just on another forum and they've got a thread going about this. A number of doctors are closing their practices. Just to much gov control.

Obamacare will turn into CrapCare.....

The reason we have this level of health care and advanced procedures is because WE PAY, once you spread the wealth the quality of care goes down and R&D slows tremendously, to pay for these free loaders that would't have insurance per say, but could have life saving procedures performed without paying upfront. This may ruin their credit but people now think they are entitled to this with no responsibility, which is crap, own up to your debts instead of having government take care of you.

Jesus, a product of our public schools no doubt.

These people risk years of their lives to go to school, they work long hours and get paid shit for being an intern, they rack up hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt. It's called making an investment in your future, it's called taking a risk and hoping for a return.

It's Capitalism, and capitalism is freedom, it's the right to live your life as you see fit, do what you want, choose your own profession, take risks for gain, seize oportunity, it's the system that advanced civlization around the world, IT'S NOT ANTI-AMERICAN...IT IS AMERICA!!!

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If athletes get athlete's foot, what do astronauts get?








Missile toe!!!!

25 years in the medical field. I am OUT.

What can patients expect?

Expect LONG LINES for EVERYTHING. Once in, you will NOT be able to see a doctor. NPs and PAs will fill the gap. *IF* you're lucky enough to see an MD, he will most likely be a Turd Worlder who doesn't speak English.

If you're over 55 and going into a hospital, you'd better hope it's not serious. If it is, a cost-benefit formula will be applied to your treatment. If you're elderly, there is a very good chance you will be admitted to the hospital and not come out alive. Your family will never know what happened to you because of "medical privacy." That's why HIPAA was passed under the Clintoon administration. Not even your family attorneys can see what's in your chart. That is for a REASON! You will go in and not come out alive.

You stupid mother fucker ! After they have went up 200% since this fucktard announced it !
I know you are a welfare slimball that wants the Gob to pay everything for your lazy ass !

Fuck You ! Dumbtard !

BOO fucking Hoo. So they can't buy a new BMW every year. Fuckem.

that made me LOL

I hope the fucking US medical shit system goes down in flames. I worked my ass off for 25 years saving money and was then forced to go to a foreign med school after being told by US medical schools that "I lack Diversity". Got an MD degree and passed the USMLE exams. Sorry, this is not your world anymore is what I have been told by the Arab and Hindu doctors that I know( referring to the US Med system). Every residency I went too, I was shown the door and I noticed that every doctor there was a Paki, Indian or Arab. When studying abroad, I constantly heard from docs that I considered to be friends "Your government is Shit and we will get into the US medical system and You will not AND we will fuck your women". They were right and now I'm stuck with minimum wage and a giant student loan I cant pay back. I was hoping captain O would get in to push this socialist agenda to fuck all of the foreign doctors that are flooding into the US system taking all of our residencies.

You're sister soon will be crying again when she realizes that as a specialist with all those extra years of education, Obamacare's going to pay her the SAME as a GP.

Because all doctors will receive the same pay, they'll be no incentive to specialize.

Think about that. Why put all that effort into being a surgeon, anthesiologist or OBGYN?

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Why don't you haul your lazy welfare ass to school for eight years, do a couple of years interning for shit pay, rack up $500,000+ in debt and then maybe you wouldn't have to go around green with envy all the fuckin' time...

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You're an ATTORNEY, with those atrocious writing and math skills?!

That's fucking SCARY!

How much doctors get has already been dictated by the government for decades, medicare's rates are the standard.

treatment

Still no liberal snide comments on this truth. It's my family's truth and I despise liberals for wrecking my son's future.

Potential pre-meds. DO NOT GO INTO MEDICINE. My son would not make the same choice again if he had the chance. He made 99% on the STEP 1 exam. And now his life is miserable. Do not let these f'g liberals ruin your life. Choose a different path. Do not be suckered in.

It will be funny when all the libtards realize that by law they have to buy health insurance and if they don't pay up they are fined a minimum 695$ or 2.5% of their income whatever is higher. Then they are going to realize that their taxes are going way up in January and that medicare is getting robbed and many hospitals cannot afford and will not accept new medicare patients.

These are just a few things that the libtards voted for. We'll they got them and they have no one else to blame except themselves. Most of the libtards have no clue what they voted for, they are in for a very rude awakening.

In America if you go to the doctor for a headache you are looking at a $500 trip. First they have to bring in a phlebotomist to draw blood and determine if your liver can handle the toxic effects of Tylenol. Then they bring in a Registered nurse to take your vitals, height, weight, eye color, blood pressure.

You then get to see a doctor that prescribes you a $50 dollar Tylenol pill and schedules you a follow up visit.

$500 total.

You will be happy to know though, that on the follow up visit the doctor will happily push statins on you, so long as you get blood drawn every other month...
$500
$500
$500
$500
$500
... (till you fucking die)

It's fucking retarded. I'm actually banned from a local doctors office for refusing to play this game. Since he cannot extract money from me, he refuses to treat me for typical shit you see a doctor for, like the flu or rash or whatever...


If you are going to die on the spot, hospitals are required by law to try and save you, the $100,000 bill comes later, and is typically never paid, especially if your name is Jose.

Nothing will change, except the amount of money extracted from the American people will increase, while the quality of services decreases.

sorry AC, you are just another democrat obama shill, and you NEVER had the option of going to medical school, nor did you go to Wall Street

I call total BS on your crap story

I'm not a doctor, but I have quite a few friends who attended medical school, and after nearly $400,000 of expenses, tuition, startup costs to begin a practice, for them to earn what you want to pay them is a travesty

You guys sound EXACTLY like the idiot Russian marxists in 1917, who similarly fixated on doctors and their pay

Those braintrusts decided to pay doctors the same as tractor drivers, to make it clear that they didn't value their high falutin education, and to break their spirits a bit

Great..so for about 5 years tractor drivers felt superior to doctors and doctors were ground down in salary and prestige

Guess what happened...over time the doctors who were trained under the Tsar either fled the country or died out, and fewer and fewer people wanted to become doctors because it simply wasn't worth the trouble and long hours...never mind the lack of pay

end result: chronic shortage of doctors

You petty envrious small minded retards want to insist that doctors go into a highly demanding profession which requires intelligence skill and discipline...and you want them to almost donate their time like they're saints

Meanwhile, you see nothing wrong with a Rap star making millions or a sports thug earning tens of millions and going into it for the money

fuck you AC: go eat a dick

Uninsured patients cost the hospital industry over 20 billion dollars last year. They had to eat the cost of it.

On the other hand, my a friend's brother (who had health insurance) was admitted after a car accident and before you could say jiminy cricket, his insurance carrier had slapped a lien on his house!!!!! THEN, when he got an insurance settlement from the accident (he's pretty much vegetative for life) he had to pay his insurance carrier back the $350,000 his critical care had cost. That was in Florida and may differ by state.

Also, the lawyers in forida can only make a certain percentage after the first million. Here's an additional tidbit, the injured guy's family contacted an attorney friend, she referred them to attorneys in the state the accident occurred. Turns out their "friend" made several hundred thousand dollars just for giving the family a contact phone number, several hundred thousand!!!!!!. Whats wrong with this picture?

They should leave that to big pharma....??


Peace

I love how we have non doctor fucktards giving their 2 cents on how much a doctors should make and how he should treat and time his patients.

Marxists ? Much ?

My BF's Mom is a psychiatrist. Not the 'sit down and tell me about your feelings' person in an office, but the 'why did you feel that swallowing shards of glass was the best route to death' in a hospital type(she does see patients in her office 2 days/wk as well).

This lady is 4'11" and weighs 95 lbs and has to calmly deal with and treat patients who have just killed people, but were injured during arrest. So, I'm sorry, but it seems like she earns her "comfortable" living.

She drives a 9 year old (non-luxury) SUV and lives in a 2600 SF house she's had for 20 years (it is in a nice part of town, though). She very rarely buys anything nice, expensive...or actually at all for herself. She eats all meals outside of work at home. The only time she ever has dinner in a restaurant, it is a required business dinner with her practice. The money she doesn't spend on bills or putting away for retirement goes to helping her two children with their education costs.

I will admit that she's never *worried* about her finances, which is quite the luxury to some, including myself. My point is not all Dr's are rich a**holes flaunting their $$$ everywhere. Most do have to work very hard and deal with things other professions/people couldn't handle day-to-day.

As an example: most folks have worked in the food/hospitality industry at some point or another. You have all this customer service crap to worry and you can't just tell the public to f*ck-off (if you want to stay employed). Everyone in that industry, with all the dealing with different types of people all the time has days where they want to throw in the towel...imagine the worst possible customer a server, for example, could have...someone who is rude and vile, someone who was having an awful day before they sat at your table and now they want to make your life hell, they send back their half-eaten food, they get free stuff from management, they don't pay their bill, they make an enormous mess, and to top-it-all off one of their bratty, poorly behaved children had a sh*tty diaper and smeared sh*t all over the booth before they left...Now imagine that customer was naked the whole time. That'll give you an idea of what healthcare industry professionals go through every day.

Actually, just go to peopleofwalmart.com (or any other site with lots of different kinds of people on it) and imagine them naked...sometimes ( [link to www.peopleofwalmart.com] they've done half the work for you!

So, who is forcing the whiney emo cunt to keep working in the medical field?