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Why Romney Lost - Karl Rove Was Exactly Right | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27162750  United States11/07/2012 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It all comes down to "likeability", that's what voters will vote for EVERY TIME in every presidential election. That's why Rove hung onto the coattails of Bush II (though he was a likeable goofy ex frat boy type you can have a beer with). Here's every election since Kennedy. Republicans need to smarten up. Obama vs. Romney - Romney's a robot CEO type. Who in America likes their CEO? Nobody. Obama vs McCain - Seriously, befuddled old McCain Bush vs Kerry - Damn droning on Kerry about God knows what putting everyone to sleep? Bush vs Gore - Airhead Gore with his head in the clouds? Clinton vs Dole - Dear God, old as Dole, who seems like the crankity old man yelliing at you to get off his lawn? Clinton vs Bush Sr. - Wimpy ass grandpa Bush Bush vs Dukakis - Dukakis makes Bush Sr. seem charismatic. Enough said Reagan vs Mondale - LOL Mondale Reagan vs Carter - Beaten down pasty Carter, feel sorry for him Carter vs Ford - Carter did seem like a likeable peanut farmer in 76 Nixon vs McGovern - Who the hell would vote for somebody who looks like their college professor of French Literature or some shit? Nixon vs Humphrey - Humphrey, a listless pseudo-intellectual, would have put everyone to sleep LBJ vs Goldwater - Evil uncaring robotic Goldwater Guess we have the loveable loser Obama for 4 more years, to give him another shot, awwww we feel sorry for him. Sigh. Guess he can continue to give us more good Fantasy Football advice for 4 more years.  |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27162750 United States11/07/2012 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6297881 United States11/07/2012 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Romney lost because he's such an idiot he managed to lose the exchange with Obama over Benghazi. He screwed up so bad he didn't even touch Benghazi again for the rest of the campaign. Benghazi handed the election to Romney on a silver platter and he ended up making it a score for Obama. That's fucking pathetic. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26826806  Philippines11/07/2012 10:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Romney lost because of his immigration stance, also he wants to take away the free stuff that people have become dependent on. Vote for Santa Claus or Scrooge? Not really a hard choice at all, and there are more and more dependent class people every day. The producers are getting outnumbered and that's the reality of it. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 13666421  Australia11/07/2012 10:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27162750 United States11/07/2012 10:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Romney lost because he's such an idiot he managed to lose the exchange with Obama over Benghazi. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6297881 He screwed up so bad he didn't even touch Benghazi again for the rest of the campaign. Benghazi handed the election to Romney on a silver platter and he ended up making it a score for Obama. That's fucking pathetic. That and other issues were completely mishandled by Romney. He did not nearly engage in enough demonizing and negative campaigning like Obama. The flip side of the coin is also trying to make the other candidate less likeable than you. Republicans failed hard at that. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6297881 United States11/07/2012 10:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Romney lost because he's such an idiot he managed to lose the exchange with Obama over Benghazi. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6297881 He screwed up so bad he didn't even touch Benghazi again for the rest of the campaign. Benghazi handed the election to Romney on a silver platter and he ended up making it a score for Obama. That's fucking pathetic. That and other issues were completely mishandled by Romney. He did not nearly engage in enough demonizing and negative campaigning like Obama. The flip side of the coin is also trying to make the other candidate less likeable than you. Republicans failed hard at that. I disagree. I don't think Romney ever had any realistic chance of beating Obama. Except, that is, until he had the election handed to him by the Benghazi scandal. But Romney couldn't even get his basic facts straight in the second debate and instead of slam dunking all over Obama's face he got embarrassed. Romney's momentum completely stopped after the second debate. His Benghazi screwup and subsequently allowing the Benghazi issue to drop off the radar is 100% responsible for him losing the only chance he had to win. |
Northman  User ID: 1141977  Puerto Rico11/07/2012 10:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27162750 United States11/07/2012 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Romney lost because of his immigration stance, also he wants to take away the free stuff that people have become dependent on. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26826806 Vote for Santa Claus or Scrooge? Not really a hard choice at all, and there are more and more dependent class people every day. The producers are getting outnumbered and that's the reality of it. It's true you are not going to be able to get the useless eaters to vote Republican, they will solidly vote Spendocrat everytime. And Republicans concede that vote. Still there are the wishy washy "independents", like suburban soccer moms, who vote for the more likeable, or less dis-likable candidate, and who determine the Presidency every time. Again, has been happening since Kennedy. Republicans completely whiffed on that one. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6297881 United States11/07/2012 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For the amount of money spent to get Romney elected, you could have gotten a monkey elected. If your going to lie about everything at least lie about things people want to hear, and don't alienate every demographic there is. The campaign ads were sickening, people stopped answering the phone, and watched shows that didn't have ads at all. Also people were turned off by the idea that if you spend a billion dollars on a campaign you'll win, Ryan and Romney couldn't even win their home states. Quoting: Northman Dems outspent GOP 2 to 1 on this election... |
| TSWB21 User ID: 1267719 United States11/07/2012 11:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 444635  Switzerland11/07/2012 11:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Uhh...Wasn't it Karl 'I love Satan' ROVE that SHOVED Romney down our throats the ENTIRE primary. You know, GIVING HIM ALL THE AIRTIME, never airing ONE bad thing about him, yet TRASHING all the other candidates and telling us how 'Electable' Romney was? FOX was pathetic during the primaries. Anyone that listens to what Karl 'I suck cock' Rove has to say should be hung from a tall building by their nutsack. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27237669 United States11/07/2012 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6297881 United States11/07/2012 11:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...don't leave out he was a very poor choice...do you want known bad or unknown bad ?...folks chose the bad they knew..Mitt never gave us a reason to vote for him,unless you want more war in the Middle East, some odd tax cut but will increase revenues but he couldn't say how etc etc...well we can have almost all that with Barry :)...besides I like innocent civilians killed by liberal Democrats...so much more diverse don't you think ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27237669 yea when liberals drop bombs it's "humanitarian aid" |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27162750 United States11/07/2012 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Romney lost because he's such an idiot he managed to lose the exchange with Obama over Benghazi. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6297881 He screwed up so bad he didn't even touch Benghazi again for the rest of the campaign. Benghazi handed the election to Romney on a silver platter and he ended up making it a score for Obama. That's fucking pathetic. That and other issues were completely mishandled by Romney. He did not nearly engage in enough demonizing and negative campaigning like Obama. The flip side of the coin is also trying to make the other candidate less likeable than you. Republicans failed hard at that. I disagree. I don't think Romney ever had any realistic chance of beating Obama. Except, that is, until he had the election handed to him by the Benghazi scandal. But Romney couldn't even get his basic facts straight in the second debate and instead of slam dunking all over Obama's face he got embarrassed. Romney's momentum completely stopped after the second debate. His Benghazi screwup and subsequently allowing the Benghazi issue to drop off the radar is 100% responsible for him losing the only chance he had to win. Agreed, even when he was elected as the Republican nominee there was a collective groan and meh. We all knew somebody like him would never win. Again, you have to elect a LIKEABLE candidate for Presidency. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23412048 United States11/07/2012 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1331460 United States11/07/2012 11:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Waaaa BOOO HOOOO what a bigot Ya all should grow up and think before you speak. If you want the real reason Romney lost it is because he does not care about anyone but himself If the Republican party wants to rebuild they are going to have to care for people or at least FAKE it good I bet it would be nice to have $$$$ Please ? I promise it will not change me! |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27162750 United States11/07/2012 11:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Waaaa BOOO HOOOO Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1331460 what a bigot Ya all should grow up and think before you speak. If you want the real reason Romney lost it is because he does not care about anyone but himself If the Republican party wants to rebuild they are going to have to care for people or at least FAKE it good I bet it would be nice to have $$$$ Please ? I promise it will not change me! Romney gave more to charity than you and I ever will. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27255929 United States11/07/2012 11:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27255929 United States11/08/2012 12:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Waaaa BOOO HOOOO Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1331460 what a bigot Ya all should grow up and think before you speak. If you want the real reason Romney lost it is because he does not care about anyone but himself If the Republican party wants to rebuild they are going to have to care for people or at least FAKE it good I bet it would be nice to have $$$$ Please ? I promise it will not change me! What a bed-wetting fag you are. You believe everything the libtard media tells you, and can't even be bothered to Google a single assertion. Stay the fuck away from voting booths. Forever. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16361770  New Zealand11/08/2012 12:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27162750 United States11/08/2012 12:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, this is a terrifyingly excellent evaluation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27255929 If true, and seems it is, most of America is no where near responsible enough to vote. Certainly not. Do you think most voters even remotely realize the relationship between National Debt, inflation and their rising fuel and food prices? Pfft, Romney and the Republicans foolishly spent too much time trying to explain this to people, and assumed voters would understand. Meanwhile Obama and the Democrats got it right, appealing to people's fears and emotions much more successfully with slogans and negative attacks. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12432310 United States11/08/2012 12:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Appearance and charisma go a long way with voters. Obama has both. Romney? Nope, especially in the personality department though he has a pleasant-enough face. An example: Sarah Palin - total airhead but attractive - every single old white Republican male (and younger rednecks) wanted to 'do her'. Still do actually. 'Your face is your fortune' - so true but you also need charisma...and you can't buy charisma. Works every time. And this is why we didn't get Ron Paul as the Republican candidate. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 11835165 United States11/08/2012 01:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why on earth would anyone in their right mind give a rats ass about what that lying evil warmongering motherfucker has to say? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22557883 You were bitten by some kind of bug that made you strongly hate something or someone; Rove must have been on a nearby TV. So, tell us all how it happened. Don't leave out the "I was on drugs" part. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25777339 New Zealand11/08/2012 01:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 11330901 United States11/08/2012 01:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh and I forgot to mention Kennedy vs Nixon. Ah, handsome Kennedy versus sweaty funny looking Nixon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27162750 As sweaty and funny looking as Nixon was, he still seemed a lot cooler than a pseudo-intellectual last-minute candidate, and actually more interesting to listen to then a French literature professor. |
| 714 User ID: 26063685 United States11/08/2012 01:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Romney lost because of his immigration stance, also he wants to take away the free stuff that people have become dependent on. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26826806 Vote for Santa Claus or Scrooge? Not really a hard choice at all, and there are more and more dependent class people every day. The producers are getting outnumbered and that's the reality of it. so denigrating and demonizing a major segment of the voting population didn't work out to well? who could have predicted that? Exalted is He from what they utter. Exalted is He from what they imagine. Exalted is He that exists without a place. Exalted is He that was there forever without a time or a beginning. Exalted is He that will be there forever without a time or an end. Exalted is He that will forever be praised. That is your God. |
