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Election Fraud: Fact or Fiction?

 
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11/09/2012 05:11 PM
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George Soros knows what happened to the missing ballots I'm sure.
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11/09/2012 09:22 PM

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[link to abcnews.go.com]

Obama working overtime to ensure as many "early voters" as possible....
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11/09/2012 09:23 PM

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[link to www.examiner.com]


Thousands of military votes uncounted or missing, and this was before the announcement that there were sufficient numbers to potentially swing the vote for Romney in several states; however, the typical ObamaRags have claimed that news as false (including the above publication - which originally reported on the issue as being an issue - go figure).

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Please feel free to post your links relating to any type of election fraud or irregularity here (regardless of state). I'd like to make this a repository/central database for such, and then I'll eventually organize it appropriately for easy reading....
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11/09/2012 09:38 PM

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[link to m.news.wbfo.org]

Thousands of absetee ballots remain to be counted in eerie county and elsewhere.
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11/09/2012 10:29 PM

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[link to www.thegatewaypundit.com]

MASSIVE DECLINE in Democrat voter registration for the 2012 election...

So, this might explain the decline in overall registered voters in Ohio (somewhat). But how is it that we have 300k fewer registered voters in Ohio (mostly Democrat according to the above), and yet Romney loses the state when Republican district turnout is widely reported as significantly more robust than 2008? How is this?

Even more interesting is this quote...

"Voter registration in the Buckeye State is down by 490,000 people from four years ago. Of that reduction, 44 percent is in Cleveland and surrounding Cuyahoga County, where Democrats outnumber Republicans more than two to one."

The tally according to the SOS was a 305k decline, so Ohio registered voters grew by a total of 185k from September 29th to November 6...possible I suppose, but definitely suspect.

Can't wait to see the official results by precinct and county.

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[link to www.thegatewaypundit.com]

MASSIVE DECLINE in Democrat voter registration for the 2012 election...

So, this might explain the decline in overall registered voters in Ohio (somewhat). But how is it that we have 300k fewer registered voters in Ohio (mostly Democrat according to the above), and yet Romney loses the state when Republican district turnout is widely reported as significantly more robust than 2008? How is this?

Even more interesting is this quote...

"Voter registration in the Buckeye State is down by 490,000 people from four years ago. Of that reduction, 44 percent is in Cleveland and surrounding Cuyahoga County, where Democrats outnumber Republicans more than two to one."

The tally according to the SOS was a 305k decline, so Ohio registered voters grew by a total of 185k from September 29th to November 6...possible I suppose, but definitely suspect.

Can't wait to see the official results by precinct and county.
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Wow...even more interesting. According to the Ohio Secretary of State, you must register 30 days prior to the election you're voting in, so somehow Ohio managed to add 185k registered voters in 7 days?!...

[link to www.sos.state.oh.us]

"What is the registration deadline?"

Ohio has a 30-day voter registration requirement. However, if the voter registration deadline falls on a Sunday or a legal holiday, then the deadline is extended to the next day that is not a Sunday or a legal holiday.

Registration by U.S. mail
If you choose to register to vote using the U.S. mail, you may send your properly completed and signed registration application to the office of a county board of elections or the Secretary of State’s office. Your application must be postmarked by the voter registration deadline, the 30th day before the election, in order to be eligible to vote in that election.

Registration in person
If you choose to register to vote in person, you may deliver your registration application to the office of a county board of elections, the Secretary of State’s office, a state or local office of a designated agency (see previous list), the office of the registrar or any deputy registrar of motor vehicles, a public high school or vocational school, a public library, the office of a county treasurer.

Your application must be received by the voter registration deadline, the 30th day before the election, in order to be eligible to vote in that election.


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SaveUSa  (OP)

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11/10/2012 12:16 AM

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LOOK FOR MISSING WHITES.

According to Gallup, white turnout was supposed to be 78%. Somehow it ended up being only 72%. Where did they go?
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This is the key IMHO. They are saying that the turnout for this election was very low, which should favor republicans, but it didn't. Does that jive with the consensus on the ground? Everything I've seen says that the turnout was phenomenal. My polling station was packed.

[link to www.abc15.com]

Other bloggers are also very suspicious of these numbers.
[link to theulstermanreport.com]

[link to lamecherry.blogspot.com]
 Quoting: SevenThunders


Thanks! and I'm beginning to agree on this one.
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11/10/2012 12:57 AM
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'Lower voter turnout' was my first suspicion.

Throwing out ObamaCare was more important than Romney himself.


Bottom line, we were screwed either way; now we're really f*cked.
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The polls showed Romney winning by a landslide. All the polls were weighted in favor of democrats from 5 to 10 points, anticipating, they said, a 2008 turnout. But, less democrats turned out in 2012 by 3 percent. That means these polls were really in Romney's favor by 8 to 13 percent. THAT IS A LANDSLIDE.

As a famous detective once said, 'Sumting wong.'
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Thread: Turnout Breakdown for the 2012 Election.

Early election totals by region - unofficial. While this op is attempting to explain the low turnout as reported, and it goes somewhat against my premise, I want to consider and discuss all sides. This argument is somewhat compelling, so I have included it.
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* A look at the lengthy early voting lines in Ohio and Florida via ThinkProgress. Some voters have reported standing in line for six hours to vote.

Snip.
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11/10/2012 01:26 PM
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Allen West Won… For Now
Posted on November 10, 2012 by Black & Right
It may take a couple of lifelines, but it appears Floridians can count after all!

“Boots on the ground update from the Allen West election count via Gary Angelo Galiano: ‘We win by 195,’” Congresman West supporter Gary Angelo Galiano posted on his Facebook account early Saturday morning.
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Allen West Won… For Now
Posted on November 10, 2012 by Black & Right
It may take a couple of lifelines, but it appears Floridians can count after all!

“Boots on the ground update from the Allen West election count via Gary Angelo Galiano: ‘We win by 195,’” Congresman West supporter Gary Angelo Galiano posted on his Facebook account early Saturday morning.
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Thanks!
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I find it beyond belief that in the worst economy since the
Great Depression and so many people including Democrats unhappy with the
way things have gone in the past four years that this could have played out the way it did.

Just simple logic....Republicans were not going to vote
him back in and a lot of Democrats that voted for him in last election did not this time.

So the only area in question is new voters and third party voters.....or rampant fraud.
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... oh yep! ... FRAUD is fact! ... big time! ...
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... who will clean it up? ... certainly NOT the dems and the repubs are too clueless to know what's being done! ...
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I find it beyond belief that in the worst economy since the
Great Depression and so many people including Democrats unhappy with the
way things have gone in the past four years that this could have played out the way it did.

Just simple logic....Republicans were not going to vote
him back in and a lot of Democrats that voted for him in last election did not this time.

So the only area in question is new voters and third party voters.....or rampant fraud.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26663220


Agreed, third party voters were not the reason in Ohio at least. They made up 1.6% of the voting population in both 2008 and 2012. No difference, and not enough to swing for either candidate.

So that excuse does not fly.
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LJTG

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11/10/2012 09:07 PM
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Not Florida, but has anyone seen this?

[link to www.fireandreamitchell.com]

129% of registered Boston vote on election day.
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11/10/2012 09:44 PM
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Monday at the site blackboxvoting veteran votefraud researcher Bev Harris has promised to release MASSIVE INFO.
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Monday at the site blackboxvoting veteran votefraud researcher Bev Harris has promised to release MASSIVE INFO.
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Great! Looking forward to it.
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Thread: Dining Buffet style on Ohio and Floriduh Election results

Another great thread. This may explain my confusion over the Ohio numbers to date.
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11/11/2012 01:06 AM
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soros.
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The first thing Romney should have said was, the Republican Party will immediately investigate the wide-spread reports of vote tampering and fraud.

Nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27255929


Yes this makes me think he was talked to, threatened and/or a deal made. A lot of shit is swirling around now, Obama's whole cabinet basically quitting in a very public way, Petraeus being fired in a questionable way, even some House members must have the idea of impeachment in the back of their minds.

Accumulating as much evidence of fraud as possible, while it's still fresh and available, and making any possible legal challenges to preserve rights in that regard, is a great idea!
hf
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Wrong tree.

How would anyone know if missing votes were supposed to be "white"? This is misinfo...Votes is votes.
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That's true - there is no way to tell for sure what the racial, religious, or other demographic attributes of those missing "potential votes" were.

Lots of people are completely disgusted with both Obama and Romney (for a variety of reasons) and decided not to vote in protest. I'm one of those who decided to go 3rd-party in protest instead of not voting at all, in hopes that it might help get them up to the 5% mark. Oh well.

As far as those in the "missing" group who have traditionally voted Republican goes, three reasons rise to the top of my mind as to reasons why they probably sat home and did not vote for Romney:

a) The Mormon issue bothered them too much.

b) The over the top amount of flip-flopping and blatant lying was just too much to condone.

c) They finally woke up and realized that they are in in the class of folks (working poor & middle class) that Romney's class (super-rich) will continue to use and then piss on, and they finally stopped voting for those who do not have their best interests in mind. That 47% video really drove that home for a lot of people.
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[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

For safe keeping.
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[link to boe.cuyahogacounty.us]
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11/12/2012 12:05 AM
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LOL

Conspiracy nuts are butthurt because reality has disproven your idiot claims...

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Granted you have tossed an insulted however, you failed to back it up could you possibly back up your insult or is that beyond your capability.
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11/12/2012 12:21 AM
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Total 100% fraud.

There is no way that Obama got 8+ million fewer votes than he did in 2008, yet apparently none of them voted for Romney who ended up with 2 million fewer votes than McCain did??

Give me a fucking break!

Someone has calculated that 16 million white votes vanished into thin air based on registrations, population counts, etc.
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11/12/2012 02:10 AM
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Brilliant post OP!!

SHIN IT!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27255929


Look. It DOESN'T fucking matter even if they PROVED that Obama didn't win. The common people have already given into the fact that he will remain in office for another 4 years. Why do you people think that anything is going to change that? Even if they prove that Obama himself was involved in voter fraud, he still will be the President for 4 more years.
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 Quoting: Saddletramp



as an outsider, watching the US elections from overseas, its a bit like seeing an abusive marriage from the outside, with the american electorate as the battered spouse- and everyone can see it but the the victim

the re-selection of obama was essentially complete with his selection of elena kagan for the supreme court, following her making a 2 trillion dollar federal reserve lawsuit disappear (poof) into the aether

[link to www.bloomberg.com] - whatever happened to this i wonder??

romney was notified the night before the final debate, comically like the bill hicks 'any questions?'
video

[link to www.youtube.com]

anyone with a brain could tell at the final debate that romney came out passive and defeated before it began. reality hurts





GLP