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Serious question: How do I get on welfare, Social Security and Disability?

 
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I copy medical records and let me tell you it is not that hard if you real want to do it. First you need to not work so much have medical reason that you can only work about 20 hr a week.
this will take your pay check down so you can get food stamps. then hire a apply for disabiltly 2 times then for your 3 attempt get a lawyer .
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to get unto disability,a doctor has to verify you have a medical condition that prevents you from working 40 hours a week...this health condition must be one which will last you the rest of your life...then you qualify for disability...to get on disability faster,have your doctor apply for you...dont get a lawyer or you will have to wait 2 years...when your doctor gets you onto disability faster,you will still have to wait 1 year to receive your insurance benefits but you will receive your monthly checks upon receiving your disability...
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg


Helpful!
At 50K a year you definatly won't qualify for welfare or foodstamps. Even if you aren't working.
The only bills that are taken into account are:

How many ppl living in your home. (keep in mind, their income is included in the household income)

Kids, a big one!

Utility bills.

Mortgage/rent.

There may be a few very minor considerations.

That's it.

As far as SSDI/SSI Talking to your Dr may help, but they have very strict guidelines to follow. It's not an easy task. The gov. wants to keep as much of your paid in money as they can, because they already spent it. Hence the retirement age keeps going up.

I am legally blind in one eye and blind in the other and have epilipsy. Can't drive, and only recieve $800.00 a month disability, guess what, I only qualify a Medicare advantage program, reduction in prescriptions and $15 a month in foodstamps. It's not much, but it helps. I have sold everything, including furniture, I rent, so I can't even sell a home to get by.
I had free medical until Obama took office. My state reduced the family income and I make $50 a year too much to qualify for that. If I have to go the hosp. I pay $500 to walk in the door.
On the bright side, if you apply and qualify for SSD, you get a nice check for the months you waited to get on disabilty. (TBH, I would push it if I were you). You can still work x hours on disability that's if you are able.
God knows I need help, but I have looked everywhere and zilch. I'm an inch away from being homeless.
Oh, I forgot to mention, medical malpractice is what caused the blindness. I couldn't prove it (red tape) in time alotted me.
Wish you the best.
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More important question I haven't seen answered:

So OP makes $50k. OP says they can *barely* cover their expenses--which, by the way, translates to the fact that they ARE able to cover their expenses on this amount.

Say OP happens upon all the circumstances which would make welfare, social security, and disability benefits available to them. How much money would OP be *making* off these benefits at that point? And would OP still be *barely* covering their expenses?!
Every "saint" has a past and every "sinner" has a future :)
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So basically I am shit out of luck it sounds like?

I cant stand this country any more.
 Quoting: Zederok


You sound like a bitter, lazy Republican.

Get to work, loser.

Or go on welfare, and see how great that is.
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You damn right I am a bitter Republican, well registered Republican because you cant vote in primaries in my state if your not registered as 1 of the 2 parties. I am more so a libertarian then anything, but I also am an avid Social conservative. I do not believe in abortion on demand, nor do I believe we should redefine marriage.

On to the reason why I want to do this, it is IMO the ONLY way to bring about real change. CRASH THE SYSTEM. Untill this country goes through an apocalyptic transformation where hundreds if not millions die through a bloody civil war and famine and grief we will see this country continue to go the way of Rome. We are so very close that I long for that day so the real men and women with true conservative values can rebuild a NEW country and depose anything remotely similar to COmmunism, Socialism or Statism.

I pray every day for either Jesus to come back, Doomsday or some unforseen catastrophe like New Madrid, comet elenin or some other shit to wipe the slate clean.
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Step one is to be dirt poor.
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I make 50K a year, can barely afford to pay my mortgage, put food on the table and pay my utilities, and gas to get back and forth to work, have not been on a vacation in 7 years, and cant afford dental work on a few teeth thanks to gingivitis.

Serious answers please.
 Quoting: Zederok


If you cant make it on $50,000 you sure wont survive on welfare,social security and/or disability.No way you would draw even close to that.Its really not the party some make it out to be.
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Step one is to be dirt poor.
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I make 50K a year, can barely afford to pay my mortgage, put food on the table and pay my utilities, and gas to get back and forth to work, have not been on a vacation in 7 years, and cant afford dental work on a few teeth thanks to gingivitis.

Serious answers please.
 Quoting: Zederok


Yeah, stop buying sodas and chips. Cook from scratch every night and eat all your leftovers for lunch at work. Don't go to restaurants. Cancel your cable/satellite subscription. Turn lights off in rooms you're not in. Set your thermostat at 68. Weatherproof your house.

Budget your expenses. Save up all of your paychecks for one month and spend them according to your budget that you have pre-planned for the month. Save the extra $$.

The key concept here is sacrifice. Not just sacrifice, but organization.

Get your shit together. You're in a good position.

Last Edited by Cheshire~Cat on 11/08/2012 02:28 AM
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Opposite here in the UK. The new system barely even recognizes mental disorders. Hell, it barely recognizes physical problems. Things just went from one extreme to the other in the UK.

Why is there never any middle ground with the gits that actually get elected...?
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Step one is to be dirt poor.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17549114


I make 50K a year, can barely afford to pay my mortgage, put food on the table and pay my utilities, and gas to get back and forth to work, have not been on a vacation in 7 years, and cant afford dental work on a few teeth thanks to gingivitis.

Serious answers please.
 Quoting: Zederok


Are you fucking kidding me? 50K a year and you come here to whine about wanting welfare/disability when there are people struggling to make barely a living wage?? Sell your $250,000 house and quit complaining.

WOW.
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So basically I am shit out of luck it sounds like?

I cant stand this country any more.
 Quoting: Zederok

The only way to win is change your lifestyle. There is an

old "saying" - "It's not what you make, it's what you

spend."

It is so true. Like most everyone else you have tried to

build your estate for the maximum benefit to yourself and

your kids or loved ones, but find yourself trapped.

It may be hard to consider, but if you walked away from

your dream home, bought a small house, bought an older car,

and cut corners everywhere possible, you might be able to

live a much more comfortable life.

It is HELL struggling to meet payments and ever-higher

utility, food and fuel bills.

These are QUALITY OF LIFE issues, and are very difficult

to consider, but it may be worth it in some cases.

Please don't jump into it, but do consider that there are

options.

Best to you, stay safe out there.
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Step one is to be dirt poor.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17549114


I make 50K a year, can barely afford to pay my mortgage, put food on the table and pay my utilities, and gas to get back and forth to work, have not been on a vacation in 7 years, and cant afford dental work on a few teeth thanks to gingivitis.

Serious answers please.
 Quoting: Zederok


Are you fucking kidding me? 50K a year and you come here to whine about wanting welfare/disability when there are people struggling to make barely a living wage?? Sell your $250,000 house and quit complaining.

WOW.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25648538

YOU are a dipshit. $50K with a family, house and paying to

support Liberals is NOT that much income.

Now go on upstairs and get a frozen pizza out of Mama's

refrigerator.
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Step one is to be dirt poor.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17549114


I make 50K a year, can barely afford to pay my mortgage, put food on the table and pay my utilities, and gas to get back and forth to work, have not been on a vacation in 7 years, and cant afford dental work on a few teeth thanks to gingivitis.

Serious answers please.
 Quoting: Zederok


Yeah, stop buying sodas and chips. Cook from scratch every night and eat all your leftovers for lunch at work. Don't go to restaurants. Cancel your cable/satellite subscription. Turn lights off in rooms you're not in. Set your thermostat at 68. Weatherproof your house.

Budget your expenses. Save up all of your paychecks for one month and spend them according to your budget that you have pre-planned for the month. Save the extra $$.

The key concept here is sacrifice. Not just sacrifice, but organization.

Get your shit together. You're in a good position.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat

Yes - these options are true. If you were to sit the

Family down and explain that since we have been burned by

Obama and Liberal Republicans, we can not afford any

luxuries, at least for a time.

It is going to get WORSE, not better - unfortunately.

If you don't set your own "austerity measures", the likes

of Obama and Boehner (R - Speaker of The House) - will

set them for you.

It's time for the tough to get going.

You can do it.
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Dear OP, at 50 K per year it sounds to me like you are living above your means.
You probably have too much house, too much invested in autos with insurance, and upkeep factored in. You probably have a wife who has to buy everything she sees.



Cut back, live within your means man. geez, people get real. You don't have to keep up with the Jone's
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OP, you said you were military and LE. Can't law enforcment usually retire at 50 with a PERS pension? Military is Social Security isn't it? If you could hold out 7 yrs. it seems you'd be pretty well set between PERS, SS, and private LE pension.

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So basically I am shit out of luck it sounds like?

I cant stand this country any more.
 Quoting: Zederok


Why don't you look for a better paying job? Move to it if you have to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15170057


Taxes on the middle class are high and getting higher. It's much better to cut your expenses to the bone than to just earn more money.

Obastard has rigged things so that only the healthy poor with low expenses win. Having money isn't taxed, earning it is. Figure it out.
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So basically I am shit out of luck it sounds like?

I cant stand this country any more.
 Quoting: Zederok


Why don't you look for a better paying job? Move to it if you have to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15170057


Taxes on the middle class are high and getting higher. It's much better to cut your expenses to the bone than to just earn more money.

Obastard has rigged things so that only the healthy poor with low expenses win. Having money isn't taxed, earning it is. Figure it out.
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If you have a hard time living on 50k you will have a really hard time on disability. I know guy that is on it. He does not live well.
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I am in the complete opposite of you.
I work with rail road retirement (train dispatcher )

They want me disabled. (epilepsy)
I have to work to pay for home/food/car

I do a very good job. And have written that the company will not be responsibe for any injuries incurred during my 8 hour shift. With a side agreement that they send an an Ambulance, (which I don't want)

It's funny what people need, what people want and just to be done with everything.

I wish I had my house payed for. I would be long gone.
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+++3

That`s the ticket.

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OP is trollin'.

If he's a cop in his 40s, he surely makes over $50K, and would be looking at retiring with a fat pension within a few years.
Not intended to be a factual statement.
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You can go to SocialSecurity.gov or something like that on line and find the answers to some questions.

I'm thinking of doing the same thing but there is just me left at home.

Today I found safelinkwireless.com is where to get an Obamaphone in my area so will start working on that.

I'm going to see how much free stuff I can get and try not to work any more so I don't have to pay taxes to provide others with things I don't have myself.
 Quoting: Bluebird


I guess a lot of us are thinking the same way, these days. I have been thinking along these same lines.

I have spent my whole life working like a dog, now I work two jobs.

I am thinking about letting it all go, maybe I can make more on the Obama gravy train.

I don't have family money, and I have been making too much for foods stamps. I am in that group in the middle that pays for everyone else's I phone, and government hand outs.

If we can't beat 'um..maybe it's time to join them, my friend!
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Serious answers please.
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As a local police officer you would know the local social workers. Ask them. Laws and regulations vary from state to state.
Our local police make about $24,000 a year.
And their health insurance is so bad they go across the state line and lie and say they are uninisured...its cheaper.
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Step one is to be dirt poor.
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I make 50K a year, can barely afford to pay my mortgage, put food on the table and pay my utilities, and gas to get back and forth to work, have not been on a vacation in 7 years, and cant afford dental work on a few teeth thanks to gingivitis.

Serious answers please.
 Quoting: Zederok


That was a serious answer my friend. A person on disability can have next to no assets, no money in the bank. You barely get enough to survive on, let alone do any "little things" as you said. You can't even afford to go to the movies or eat out once a month, it's not a pleasant life at all.

Crashing the system? Get out of the system, move to another country if you don't like helping those in need. The system would crawl to a halt if all of these people were suddenly homeless and starving, riots would break out.
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You can go to SocialSecurity.gov or something like that on line and find the answers to some questions.

I'm thinking of doing the same thing but there is just me left at home.

Today I found safelinkwireless.com is where to get an Obamaphone in my area so will start working on that.

I'm going to see how much free stuff I can get and try not to work any more so I don't have to pay taxes to provide others with things I don't have myself.
 Quoting: Bluebird


I guess a lot of us are thinking the same way, these days. I have been thinking along these same lines.

I have spent my whole life working like a dog, now I work two jobs.

I am thinking about letting it all go, maybe I can make more on the Obama gravy train.

I don't have family money, and I have been making too much for foods stamps. I am in that group in the middle that pays for everyone else's I phone, and government hand outs.

If we can't beat 'um..maybe it's time to join them, my friend!
 Quoting: CuriosityCat1


How do you figure you pay for anyone else's anything? None of the taxes you are paying are going towards anything anyone today gets, it's all backed up with debt. Your taxes go to paying off debts from decades ago that your parents and their parents wracked up for their retirement.
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So basically I am shit out of luck it sounds like?

I cant stand this country any more.
 Quoting: Zederok


You sound like a bitter, lazy Republican.

Get to work, loser.

Or go on welfare, and see how great that is.
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You damn right I am a bitter Republican, well registered Republican because you cant vote in primaries in my state if your not registered as 1 of the 2 parties. I am more so a libertarian then anything, but I also am an avid Social conservative. I do not believe in abortion on demand, nor do I believe we should redefine marriage.

On to the reason why I want to do this, it is IMO the ONLY way to bring about real change. CRASH THE SYSTEM. Untill this country goes through an apocalyptic transformation where hundreds if not millions die through a bloody civil war and famine and grief we will see this country continue to go the way of Rome. We are so very close that I long for that day so the real men and women with true conservative values can rebuild a NEW country and depose anything remotely similar to COmmunism, Socialism or Statism.

I pray every day for either Jesus to come back, Doomsday or some unforseen catastrophe like New Madrid, comet elenin or some other shit to wipe the slate clean.
 Quoting: Zederok

Well, if you are really serious you can always run down the street screaming, and they will come to take you away to evaluate you. When they do make up some crazy stuff about something that happened in your past, and tell them you get very anxious, and you go into panic attacks..ect.

Read up on PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder) people that work as police officers, first responders, medical workers, medical investigators have a high incidence of PTSD because of some of the horrible things they see.

The only med diagnosis that insures you to get SS disability these days IS PTSD. If you really are a Police officer you should have no trouble.

Good luck, I understand exactly how you are feeling!!
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So basically I am shit out of luck it sounds like?

I cant stand this country any more.
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no youre not

quit your job tomorrow, save some $$
close your bank account
get a new job working fast food for a month or so, have some fun at work and live off your saved money

do something stupid to get fired from Mcdonalds on purpose
begin collecting your 40% mcdonalds wage at the unemployment line
go apply for wellfare because you WILL then be at that lower level

if you dont have a kid, get pregnant or get a chock pregnant(not sure if you are male or female)
go apply for "WIC" BOOM instant wellfare within 2 weeks providing food for mothers health
then after you have WIC, you can go back and get foodstamps at that office

you could also scam the system by increasing your household capacity beyond 7 people total. All you need to do is allow a friend or a couple families that need help to live with you
prove it to the Wellfare office and you are in provided for every 3 people you not make above $27k
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Motherfuck.....another do

Last Edited by Manu-K on 11/10/2012 11:15 PM
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

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You can go to SocialSecurity.gov or something like that on line and find the answers to some questions.

I'm thinking of doing the same thing but there is just me left at home.

Today I found safelinkwireless.com is where to get an Obamaphone in my area so will start working on that.

I'm going to see how much free stuff I can get and try not to work any more so I don't have to pay taxes to provide others with things I don't have myself.
 Quoting: Bluebird


I guess a lot of us are thinking the same way, these days. I have been thinking along these same lines.

I have spent my whole life working like a dog, now I work two jobs.

I am thinking about letting it all go, maybe I can make more on the Obama gravy train.

I don't have family money, and I have been making too much for foods stamps. I am in that group in the middle that pays for everyone else's I phone, and government hand outs.

If we can't beat 'um..maybe it's time to join them, my friend!
 Quoting: CuriosityCat1


How do you figure you pay for anyone else's anything? None of the taxes you are paying are going towards anything anyone today gets, it's all backed up with debt. Your taxes go to paying off debts from decades ago that your parents and their parents wracked up for their retirement.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25447468


Regardless, I am sick of working hard when everyone else is either living off their parents, or Obama. How is that fair to me, or any other tax payer or middle class individual?
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Crash the fucking system people, quit your jobs and start asking for welfare and food stamps, that'd be funny as hell!
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

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Re: Serious question: How do I get on welfare, Social Security and Disability?
I am 43 years old, have worked at a minimum of 50+ hours a week since I was 18 years old (Military, then Local Police Officer).

I am tired of this life and want to be able to do all the things these ass clowns do without having to work. Plus I want to help crash the system. I have a legitimate disability (3 knee surgeries and severe arthritis).

I do not know the first clue on how to go about getting on disability, SSI, Welfare and Food Stamps. For those who want to help crash the system like me but have been a productive member of society all my life, how do I do it?
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Find a middle aged black woman in the projects, offer to pay-as-you-go for her to lead you through all the steps. You will never and I do mean NEVER accomplish your goal without help.

That being said, you could also approach a disability attorney, take all your medical records showing xrays of your knee and descriptions of various surgeries.

Only a smallish percentage of disability claims are accepted but I think you can keep trying. It probably helps if you smell a little and have a one day growth of beard when you go see the social security people, just so you don't look too properous and happy. You need to look and act beat down or you will stand out too much. If you don't believe me, go sit at the food stamp place for an hour, gawd. You can also check this link for information: [link to www.ssa.gov]
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Get sick or become poor. You don't want neither, be glad your healthy with a job.
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Get sick or become poor. You don't want neither, be glad your healthy with a job.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25788477


You don't get it, people like him just don't want to support big gov anymore. There might be a crack in the system after all, just plain don't give a fuck anymore, quit your job and go for all the benefits you can. If all the white middle class did this the system would crash and everyone would realize the insanity of the socialist welfare state.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

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