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SINKHOLE-GAS pressure detected 20 FEET below community-“Immediate actions…"Professor: It could be a ‘significant’ event

 
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SINKHOLE-GAS pressure detected 20 FEET below community-“Immediate actions…"Professor: It could be a ‘significant’ event
Conservation-ordered shallow well monitoring network detects natural gas pressure near community at 20-to-40-foot depth

[link to enenews.com]

That is very shallow....if it were to suddenly break through and escape in large quantities, it could displace the oxygen effectively suffocating anyone in the vicinity....

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Chuck Huebner, KLFY Journalist: Sheriff [Mike] Waguespack says the worst-case scenario is another sinkhole could form or the current one could expand beyond control.

Professor Kinsland says that’s a possibility. [...]

Professor Gary Kinsland, UL Lafayette: It could be a significant thing, I’m glad I don’t have to try to fix it.

[link to enenews.com]

Well...thats kind of obvious I would have thought....it has always been beyond anyones control to stop it!!

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Conservation-ordered shallow well monitoring network detects natural gas pressure near community at 20-to-40-foot depth


[link to enenews.com]

That is very shallow....if it were to suddenly break through and escape in large quantities, it could displace the oxygen effectively suffocating anyone in the vicinity....

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Scary shit.
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MAN THE LIFE BOATS
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Conservation-ordered shallow well monitoring network detects natural gas pressure near community at 20-to-40-foot depth


[link to enenews.com]

That is very shallow....if it were to suddenly break through and escape in large quantities, it could displace the oxygen effectively suffocating anyone in the vicinity....

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Yikes.

Thanks for posting an update - this story should be at the top of the list of concerns for Americans.
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Re: SINKHOLE-GAS pressure detected 20 FEET below community-“Immediate actions…"Professor: It could be a ‘significant’ event
check the audio on that site at top
[link to enenews.com]

its our sheriff warning of explosons!@

full press release [link to dnr.louisiana.gov]
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Re: SINKHOLE-GAS pressure detected 20 FEET below community-“Immediate actions…"Professor: It could be a ‘significant’ event
Which leaves the million dollar question, where did all that methane and crude come from in the first place? That's not what the dome was storing at the time.
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full video of sheriff [link to enenews.com]
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Re: SINKHOLE-GAS pressure detected 20 FEET below community-“Immediate actions…"Professor: It could be a ‘significant’ event
Which leaves the million dollar question, where did all that methane and crude come from in the first place? That's not what the dome was storing at the time.
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Gulf of Mexico . . . BP compromised fault line.
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Sounds great! :D
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Transcript Summary

Assumption Parish sinkhole is a history making event

Part of parish is steadily disappearing into a hole in the earth

Sheriff: It’s almost like a live animal, everyday it tends to grow and a new issue develops

No one knows when things will end

This sinkhole is new science

Environmental nightmare experts are still struggling to get a handle on

Aquifer now contaminated with natural gas and maybe even oil

Sheriff: “Experts have really never seen anything like this before”
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Re: SINKHOLE-GAS pressure detected 20 FEET below community-“Immediate actions…"Professor: It could be a ‘significant’ event
Which leaves the million dollar question, where did all that methane and crude come from in the first place? That's not what the dome was storing at the time.
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Its coming from the field thats under the whole area for miles and miles. Pressure from the field is driving all the gas to the surface. Following the path of least resistance. The pressure under that field has been historically high and they should not drill there. The pressure has been increasing. Another Blowout the other day in the area proves it and they know its happening but can't do nothing about it.

This is a Mother Nature Event. Made worse by Humans and all their super straws and worse by all the toxins stored in the Salt Caverns in the area. BOOM. Down She Goes. That whole area for hundreds of miles.
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Re: SINKHOLE-GAS pressure detected 20 FEET below community-“Immediate actions…"Professor: It could be a ‘significant’ event
Which leaves the million dollar question, where did all that methane and crude come from in the first place? That's not what the dome was storing at the time.
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Its coming from the field thats under the whole area for miles and miles. Pressure from the field is driving all the gas to the surface. Following the path of least resistance. The pressure under that field has been historically high and they should not drill there. The pressure has been increasing. Another Blowout the other day in the area proves it and they know its happening but can't do nothing about it.

This is a Mother Nature Event. Made worse by Humans and all their super straws and worse by all the toxins stored in the Salt Caverns in the area. BOOM. Down She Goes. That whole area for hundreds of miles.
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GOM and BP.
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Re: SINKHOLE-GAS pressure detected 20 FEET below community-“Immediate actions…"Professor: It could be a ‘significant’ event
How long you figure they have to evacuate? Even if it keeps causing blowouts, how likely is it to ignite the whole pocket? Geez, how far would you even have to get clear?
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How long you figure they have to evacuate? Even if it keeps causing blowouts, how likely is it to ignite the whole pocket? Geez, how far would you even have to get clear?
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That's what I was wondering? What kind of explosion are we looking at here???
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How long you figure they have to evacuate? Even if it keeps causing blowouts, how likely is it to ignite the whole pocket? Geez, how far would you even have to get clear?
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My Dad was an Oil and Gas Engineer for 40 years. He says 500 sq miles and the Coast Line for a thousand to be safe. Might even nudge the New Madrid. I would have been gone along time ago but I think the critical mass is about to be breached. Were close guys. I've been posting this explaination from my Dad for months. Holding my breath. Get the fuck out of there you guys. NOW.
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Re: SINKHOLE-GAS pressure detected 20 FEET below community-“Immediate actions…"Professor: It could be a ‘significant’ event
check the audio on that site at top
[link to enenews.com]

its our sheriff warning of explosons!@

full press release [link to dnr.louisiana.gov]
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Wow...that effectively means that EVERYWHERE in the vicinity may have the same risk associated...

the key is the correct mix of methane and oxygen...chances are slim but it has and can happen. An explosion could be absolutely devastating.

I am wondering what position the rest of the caverns are in....is the butane at more risk? That would be an astronomical disaster but from what I understand the chances are slim of a butane explosion??...because the butane is so dense it would sit at the bottom of the cavern even if the top was breached...but what about if the bottom was breached? ALso, to remove the butane they pump salt water which is heavier than the butane in to the cavern...thus the butane rises and can be removed.
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Re: SINKHOLE-GAS pressure detected 20 FEET below community-“Immediate actions…"Professor: It could be a ‘significant’ event
How long you figure they have to evacuate? Even if it keeps causing blowouts, how likely is it to ignite the whole pocket? Geez, how far would you even have to get clear?
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Thats the million dollar question....I also worry a lot about a sudden breakthrough somewhere at night and it killing people in their sleep....its a very real possibility if the ground was significantly breached somewhere....
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Re: SINKHOLE-GAS pressure detected 20 FEET below community-“Immediate actions…"Professor: It could be a ‘significant’ event
How long you figure they have to evacuate? Even if it keeps causing blowouts, how likely is it to ignite the whole pocket? Geez, how far would you even have to get clear?
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My Dad was an Oil and Gas Engineer for 40 years. He says 500 sq miles and the Coast Line for a thousand to be safe. Might even nudge the New Madrid. I would have been gone along time ago but I think the critical mass is about to be breached. Were close guys. I've been posting this explaination from my Dad for months. Holding my breath. Get the fuck out of there you guys. NOW.
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Honestly...I know its a terrible thought that people wont be able to go home again. But I cant see this ending any other way....its not going to just stop and in fact most likely will get far worse.

Permanent evacuation is the most likely outcome...but how far? They really need to investigate the entire area thoroughly. There has been a lot of new bubbling at Lake Peigneur and problems with other salt domes. I have read reports of people who live in the vicinity of the Blue Bayou saltdome west of Baton Rouge that they no longer have any drainage..water just sits where previously the drainage was great. Like it is permanently sodden. It is a very widespread issue.....

I mean...look at the GOM. Its a disaster already ...and it can only get worse.

What a wreck man has made of this planet.
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Re: SINKHOLE-GAS pressure detected 20 FEET below community-“Immediate actions…"Professor: It could be a ‘significant’ event
Will this sinkhole eventually collapse all together, for sure?

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How long you figure they have to evacuate? Even if it keeps causing blowouts, how likely is it to ignite the whole pocket? Geez, how far would you even have to get clear?
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Thats the million dollar question....I also worry a lot about a sudden breakthrough somewhere at night and it killing people in their sleep....its a very real possibility if the ground was significantly breached somewhere....
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It is breached. The whole area is breached. There are cracks in the sea bed and the oil is still leaking out of the sea bed. Thats not just Butane. Thats Natural Gas. Butane and Oil and what ever else got away from them in the Caverns. That whole Coast line is littered with Caverns. The whole area is unstable. Its collapsing. There is seismic activity and there will be more as more ground gives way. The two are working against each other now. Collapse/seismic. This is really bad. Its been slow motion up till now but that won't last much longer.
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TrinityMountain, are you suggesting widespread explosions across the country or atleast in areas spread out among the country, in these caverns?

Sounds like some good doom to me
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Re: SINKHOLE-GAS pressure detected 20 FEET below community-“Immediate actions…"Professor: It could be a ‘significant’ event
Will this sinkhole eventually collapse all together, for sure?

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Plus just breaking::

Chuck Huebner, KLFY Journalist: Sheriff [Mike] Waguespack says the worst-case scenario is another sinkhole could form or the current one could expand beyond control.

Professor Kinsland says that’s a possibility. [...]

Professor Gary Kinsland, UL Lafayette: It could be a significant thing, I’m glad I don’t have to try to fix it.

[link to enenews.com]

Well...thats kind of obvious I would have thought....it has always been beyond anyones control to stop it!!

Last Edited by taniatarn on 11/08/2012 04:05 AM
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TrinityMountain, are you suggesting widespread explosions across the country or atleast in areas spread out among the country, in these caverns?

Sounds like some good doom to me
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Like that other poster said. Million dollar question. Nobody knows. Anything is possible. Could be localized. Could not. I'm not a chemist either is my dad but that area is comprimized. The right mixture. The right combinations of ingrediants. Chain reactions. Only god knows. I just have a bad feeling. My dad advised everybody, Family not to go to Yuma for the Winter. Some went anyways. He said thats not far enough away if shit happens. To close to the New Madrid also. Which way would you run...?
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Re: SINKHOLE-GAS pressure detected 20 FEET below community-“Immediate actions…"Professor: It could be a ‘significant’ event
Is there a map showing how bog an area might blow
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Is there a map showing how bog an area might blow
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There is so many threads on this site and lots of information. Find the Don't make assumptions thread. Pages of shit and maps and stuff.

Just google the maps that show the Gas exploration field. Oil and gas fields for the area. You will get the big picture.
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Thank you
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Transcript Summary

Assumption Parish sinkhole is a history making event

Part of parish is steadily disappearing into a hole in the earth

Sheriff: It’s almost like a live animal, everyday it tends to grow and a new issue develops

No one knows when things will end

This sinkhole is new science

Environmental nightmare experts are still struggling to get a handle on

Aquifer now contaminated with natural gas and maybe even oil

Sheriff: “Experts have really never seen anything like this before”
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Thanks!

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Re: SINKHOLE-GAS pressure detected 20 FEET below community-“Immediate actions…"Professor: It could be a ‘significant’ event
check the audio on that site at top
[link to enenews.com]

its our sheriff warning of explosons!@

full press release [link to dnr.louisiana.gov]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11264499


Wow...that effectively means that EVERYWHERE in the vicinity may have the same risk associated...

the key is the correct mix of methane and oxygen...chances are slim but it has and can happen. An explosion could be absolutely devastating.

I am wondering what position the rest of the caverns are in....is the butane at more risk? That would be an astronomical disaster but from what I understand the chances are slim of a butane explosion??...because the butane is so dense it would sit at the bottom of the cavern even if the top was breached...but what about if the bottom was breached? ALso, to remove the butane they pump salt water which is heavier than the butane in to the cavern...thus the butane rises and can be removed.
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If just one of these cavern's ignite, it could ignite the other cavern's in a dominoe effect, there is not any hard stone seperating these cavern's. Mudstone, and sandstone do not stand a chance in this type of explosion... neither would the cavern's.
I am starting to think two thing's about this... A. It's a big non event, this isn't the first sinkhole in lousiansa to collapse because of cavern failure. Or B. This is a man made event set to rip the us in two.
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Is there a map showing how bog an area might blow
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Its pretty much in the middle of nowhere.
So its like a tree in the forest.

If the bog blows and there's nobody there
to hear it . . . .
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Lord have mercy.How much more does it take to wake people up..GET OUT OF THERE!
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Re: SINKHOLE-GAS pressure detected 20 FEET below community-“Immediate actions…"Professor: It could be a ‘significant’ event
How long you figure they have to evacuate? Even if it keeps causing blowouts, how likely is it to ignite the whole pocket? Geez, how far would you even have to get clear?
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Thats the million dollar question....I also worry a lot about a sudden breakthrough somewhere at night and it killing people in their sleep....its a very real possibility if the ground was significantly breached somewhere....
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That would be a blessing to go in your sleep. Not that I would ever want this disaster to happen...

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