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SINKHOLE-GAS pressure detected 20 FEET below community-“Immediate actions…"Professor: It could be a ‘significant’ event

 
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Assumption Parish sinkhole is a history making event

Part of parish is steadily disappearing into a hole in the earth

Sheriff: It’s almost like a live animal, everyday it tends to grow and a new issue develops

No one knows when things will end

This sinkhole is new science

Environmental nightmare experts are still struggling to get a handle on

Aquifer now contaminated with natural gas and maybe even oil

Sheriff: “Experts have really never seen anything like this before”
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This must be a hoax because it's not on tv news.

Sandy and Obama are all there is.
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This is not the catastrophic sinkhole event you are looking for.

Sinkholes are just science fiction and photoshop.
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Re: SINKHOLE-GAS pressure detected 20 FEET below community-“Immediate actions…"Professor: It could be a ‘significant’ event
Like that other poster said. Million dollar question. Nobody knows. Anything is possible. Could be localized. Could not. I'm not a chemist either is my dad but that area is comprimized. The right mixture. The right combinations of ingrediants. Chain reactions. Only god knows. I just have a bad feeling. My dad advised everybody, Family not to go to Yuma for the Winter. Some went anyways. He said thats not far enough away if shit happens. To close to the New Madrid also. Which way would you run...?
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The government/oil company should have paid for all locals to be re-housed, or hotels and all expenses a long time ago
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Thread: IS THE AUQIFER ON FIRE?? .LA Sinkhole Fires, Gulf Methane Releases,
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check the audio on that site at top
[link to enenews.com]

its our sheriff warning of explosons!@

full press release [link to dnr.louisiana.gov]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11264499


Wow...that effectively means that EVERYWHERE in the vicinity may have the same risk associated...

the key is the correct mix of methane and oxygen...chances are slim but it has and can happen. An explosion could be absolutely devastating.

I am wondering what position the rest of the caverns are in....is the butane at more risk? That would be an astronomical disaster but from what I understand the chances are slim of a butane explosion??...because the butane is so dense it would sit at the bottom of the cavern even if the top was breached...but what about if the bottom was breached? ALso, to remove the butane they pump salt water which is heavier than the butane in to the cavern...thus the butane rises and can be removed.
 Quoting: taniatarn


If just one of these cavern's ignite, it could ignite the other cavern's in a dominoe effect, there is not any hard stone seperating these cavern's. Mudstone, and sandstone do not stand a chance in this type of explosion... neither would the cavern's.
I am starting to think two thing's about this... A. It's a big non event, this isn't the first sinkhole in lousiansa to collapse because of cavern failure. Or B. This is a man made event set to rip the us in two.
 Quoting: BULLDOZER


If you check out some of the info that has been compiled in other threads, the answer unfortunately is B.
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Re: SINKHOLE-GAS pressure detected 20 FEET below community-“Immediate actions…"Professor: It could be a ‘significant’ event
If it blows out the shipping facilities then 30 % of the world population goes hungry
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If it blows out the shipping facilities then 30 % of the world population goes hungry
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30% of the world population? Lol
Right
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If it blows out the shipping facilities then 30 % of the world population goes hungry
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30% of the world population? Lol
Right
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Hey fuck maggot , look up exactly how much food is exported via the mississippi river
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If it blows out the shipping facilities then 30 % of the world population goes hungry
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30% of the world population? Lol
Right
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Hey fuck maggot , look up exactly how much food is exported via the mississippi river
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Again. 30% of the world. Got a big ego much?
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Re: SINKHOLE-GAS pressure detected 20 FEET below community-“Immediate actions…"Professor: It could be a ‘significant’ event
We need a custom made animation of the whole world turning into a sinkhole. Photoshop gurus get to work.

Ideas? How about a smile face dude digging a hole for oil. It squirts and then sinks into a sinkhole where upon the smile retreats a few yards back, then waits a few and digs at the side...causing ground to shake immediately, then pull back and the whole world sinks into a huge sinkhole and melts into space.
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They have opened the bottomless pit!
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Re: SINKHOLE-GAS pressure detected 20 FEET below community-“Immediate actions…"Professor: It could be a ‘significant’ event
why haven t i heard about "sinkholes", in the last few years? why do they keep pooping up now? and in such large quantities as it seems... 5 years ago, a sinkhole was just a small hole in the road due to erosion of the ground... where do these come from now? why are they an issue all of the sudden?
they seem like a fad, just like the Mayan date in 2012
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[link to www.examiner.com]
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Re: SINKHOLE-GAS pressure detected 20 FEET below community-“Immediate actions…"Professor: It could be a ‘significant’ event
Been waiting for a good update on this. Thanks, OP!

It's scary to think how many people don't know about this, let alone even scarier to think about the amount of people who could potentially be effected and don't know about it.

I wonder how long it's going to take for them to pull the rip cord and let 'er fly.
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Re: SINKHOLE-GAS pressure detected 20 FEET below community-“Immediate actions…"Professor: It could be a ‘significant’ event
Maybe Texas Brine can do something stupid like BP did and spray toxic shit all over the communities and claim it's to neutralise and disperse the methane. It wouldn't surprise me.
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Re: SINKHOLE-GAS pressure detected 20 FEET below community-“Immediate actions…"Professor: It could be a ‘significant’ event
Which leaves the million dollar question, where did all that methane and crude come from in the first place? That's not what the dome was storing at the time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27262302


Its coming from the field thats under the whole area for miles and miles. Pressure from the field is driving all the gas to the surface. Following the path of least resistance. The pressure under that field has been historically high and they should not drill there. The pressure has been increasing. Another Blowout the other day in the area proves it and they know its happening but can't do nothing about it.

This is a Mother Nature Event. Made worse by Humans and all their super straws and worse by all the toxins stored in the Salt Caverns in the area. BOOM. Down She Goes. That whole area for hundreds of miles.
 Quoting: TrinityMountain


I read were the bottom/floor of the sinkhole has actually lifted or pushed upwards 30 feet because of so much pressure underneath, and that they're measuring about 1,000 psi.
They said it takes about, by estimates, 75 psi. for the gas/methane to start escaping and go boom, provided the correct fuel/O2 flash point and heat source, of course. Otherwise, no boom, but deadly gas event that can kill nearby people.
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Been waiting for a good update on this. Thanks, OP!

It's scary to think how many people don't know about this, let alone even scarier to think about the amount of people who could potentially be effected and don't know about it.

I wonder how long it's going to take for them to pull the rip cord and let 'er fly.
 Quoting: The Feline Funkadelic


Try as you may, they just don't want know. It is beyond their control, and disturbs their perception of reality.

I understand both sides of the coin, both of awareness and denial, reality and delusion.



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Its Karma piling up .....


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If it blows out the shipping facilities then 30 % of the world population goes hungry
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30% of the world population? Lol
Right
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these louisiana sinkholetards are total looney tunes.
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Re: SINKHOLE-GAS pressure detected 20 FEET below community-“Immediate actions…"Professor: It could be a ‘significant’ event
How long you figure they have to evacuate? Even if it keeps causing blowouts, how likely is it to ignite the whole pocket? Geez, how far would you even have to get clear?
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My Dad was an Oil and Gas Engineer for 40 years. He says 500 sq miles and the Coast Line for a thousand to be safe. Might even nudge the New Madrid. I would have been gone along time ago but I think the critical mass is about to be breached. Were close guys. I've been posting this explaination from my Dad for months. Holding my breath. Get the fuck out of there you guys. NOW.
 Quoting: TrinityMountain


Evacuate up to a thousand miles? That's crazy. NOT possible to evacuate that many people. Why is ENews the only one that even covers this? I think there is much exaggeration in this sinkhole. As far as the blow up possibilities go. I don't doubt it could grow larger.
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How long you figure they have to evacuate? Even if it keeps causing blowouts, how likely is it to ignite the whole pocket? Geez, how far would you even have to get clear?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27262302


My Dad was an Oil and Gas Engineer for 40 years. He says 500 sq miles and the Coast Line for a thousand to be safe. Might even nudge the New Madrid. I would have been gone along time ago but I think the critical mass is about to be breached. Were close guys. I've been posting this explaination from my Dad for months. Holding my breath. Get the fuck out of there you guys. NOW.
 Quoting: TrinityMountain


Honestly...I know its a terrible thought that people wont be able to go home again. But I cant see this ending any other way....its not going to just stop and in fact most likely will get far worse.

Permanent evacuation is the most likely outcome...but how far? They really need to investigate the entire area thoroughly. There has been a lot of new bubbling at Lake Peigneur and problems with other salt domes. I have read reports of people who live in the vicinity of the Blue Bayou saltdome west of Baton Rouge that they no longer have any drainage..water just sits where previously the drainage was great. Like it is permanently sodden. It is a very widespread issue.....

I mean...look at the GOM. Its a disaster already ...and it can only get worse.

What a wreck man has made of this planet.

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Use plastic much?
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Re: SINKHOLE-GAS pressure detected 20 FEET below community-“Immediate actions…"Professor: It could be a ‘significant’ event
TrinityMountain, are you suggesting widespread explosions across the country or atleast in areas spread out among the country, in these caverns?

Sounds like some good doom to me
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Like that other poster said. Million dollar question. Nobody knows. Anything is possible. Could be localized. Could not. I'm not a chemist either is my dad but that area is comprimized. The right mixture. The right combinations of ingrediants. Chain reactions. Only god knows. I just have a bad feeling. My dad advised everybody, Family not to go to Yuma for the Winter. Some went anyways. He said thats not far enough away if shit happens. To close to the New Madrid also. Which way would you run...?
 Quoting: TrinityMountain


Hey, Trinity Muntain --I'm not disputing what you or your Dad says, but in an earlier post, you mentioned evacuating for 500 square miles and along 1,000 miles of coastline. So, forgive my ignorance, but what does Yuma have to do with this if you are talking about Yuma, Arizona -- the only Yuma I could locate through Google. Yuma, AZ is about 1,500 miles away from that area.

Thanks for clarifying.
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check the audio on that site at top
[link to enenews.com]

its our sheriff warning of explosons!@

full press release [link to dnr.louisiana.gov]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11264499


Wow...that effectively means that EVERYWHERE in the vicinity may have the same risk associated...

the key is the correct mix of methane and oxygen...chances are slim but it has and can happen. An explosion could be absolutely devastating.

I am wondering what position the rest of the caverns are in....is the butane at more risk? That would be an astronomical disaster but from what I understand the chances are slim of a butane explosion??...because the butane is so dense it would sit at the bottom of the cavern even if the top was breached...but what about if the bottom was breached? ALso, to remove the butane they pump salt water which is heavier than the butane in to the cavern...thus the butane rises and can be removed.
 Quoting: taniatarn


If just one of these cavern's ignite, it could ignite the other cavern's in a dominoe effect, there is not any hard stone seperating these cavern's. Mudstone, and sandstone do not stand a chance in this type of explosion... neither would the cavern's.
I am starting to think two thing's about this... A. It's a big non event, this isn't the first sinkhole in lousiansa to collapse because of cavern failure. Or B. This is a man made event set to rip the us in two.
 Quoting: BULLDOZER


If you check out some of the info that has been compiled in other threads, the answer unfortunately is B.
 Quoting: Vic-chick13


You are right, maybe it is just wishful thinking on my part that it wasn't true. I'm not too worried at the moment, but in the future I see this getting really ugly and my big concern is lightning.
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Re: SINKHOLE-GAS pressure detected 20 FEET below community-“Immediate actions…"Professor: It could be a ‘significant’ event
Conservation-ordered shallow well monitoring network detects natural gas pressure near community at 20-to-40-foot depth


[link to enenews.com]

That is very shallow....if it were to suddenly break through and escape in large quantities, it could displace the oxygen effectively suffocating anyone in the vicinity....

 Quoting: taniatarn


Yikes.

Thanks for posting an update - this story should be at the top of the list of concerns for Americans.
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You must be joking......... there is a new season of American Idol.
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Re: SINKHOLE-GAS pressure detected 20 FEET below community-“Immediate actions…"Professor: It could be a ‘significant’ event
Typical that the national media are ignoring this and we have a poster from New Zealand who is keeping us apprised!!!!!!!!


That said, many of us on this site thought the Gulf Oil spill was going to result in an immediate catastrophe.

I think the sinkhole and the spill are related ....

Something will happen, but it likely will be on a scale smaller than we at this site think.
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Re: SINKHOLE-GAS pressure detected 20 FEET below community-“Immediate actions…"Professor: It could be a ‘significant’ event
Bayou Corne has a Facebook page.
[link to www.facebook.com]

One of the comments at the top is a plea to sign a petition to Gov. Jindal to expand the evacuation area.
Please visit this site and sign the petition if you are so inclined.
[link to www.change.org]
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Follow up to original article..

Methane “much closer” to community than previously detected near giant sinkhole — Pressure now just below surface — Officials want to test every structure built on ground

[link to enenews.com]
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Please note : Where appropriate for posted images/ graphs I acknowledge the New Zealand GeoNet project and its sponsors EQC, GNS Science and LINZ, for providing data/images used in my study and analyses of Volcanic and Earthquake information in New Zealand.

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