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I wish I had the answers, but I don't. Maybe you have some ideas...??

The members of my family are all quite intelligent and educated people with successful careers. At the same time they are ALL Sheeple and totally unaware. I've always been considered as different and tolerated as "the artist" who's out there." There is no one in the family though who tolerates and agrees to discussing any issues that I bring up; most of those issues are about the truth behind the veil. I think that many sheeple feel threatened when you question their "reality". This wouldn't be so serious if their ignorance didn't cause harm to the latest generation. For example, I tried to tell my sister with two infants about the dangers of vaccines and she didn't even respond to me. She just told my mother that she didn't want to take any chances of her kids getting sick. Duh! Ever since she had them all vaccinated, they are constantly sick. I feel that their immune system was weakend and I care because it's my nephew and niece but I can't do anything for them at this point. There's a family birthday gathering this weekend. I agreed to attend, but I already know that for the most part I will be the outsider again and pretty pissed off at their level of ignorance and being laughed at. So it's best to keep quiet which sucks, because then I'm denying who I am and supporting thei blissful ignorance. It's my indigo nature to cause friction among illusion. It is like stirring up the dirt to then be dissolved for the truth to come out. As that happens people feel very uncomfortable and dislike me or turn on me. Any thoughts on this? Are you also the only one aware among a family of sheeple?
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Maybe there are other sides to you, than constantly
manning the barricades..?

Avoid the controversial stuff for once, take part
in the small talk (still philosophical and political
points to be made - without stirring any shit if you're
skilled enough); maybe it's worth the effort, to counteract
evil with an afternoon or so of simple, positive togetherness?

Very much recognize your situation, OP.
Not saying it is easy ;)
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I wish I had the answers, but I don't. Maybe you have some ideas...??

The members of my family are all quite intelligent and educated people with successful careers. At the same time they are ALL Sheeple and totally unaware. I've always been considered as different and tolerated as "the artist" who's out there." There is no one in the family though who tolerates and agrees to discussing any issues that I bring up; most of those issues are about the truth behind the veil. I think that many sheeple feel threatened when you question their "reality". This wouldn't be so serious if their ignorance didn't cause harm to the latest generation. For example, I tried to tell my sister with two infants about the dangers of vaccines and she didn't even respond to me. She just told my mother that she didn't want to take any chances of her kids getting sick. Duh! Ever since she had them all vaccinated, they are constantly sick. I feel that their immune system was weakend and I care because it's my nephew and niece but I can't do anything for them at this point. There's a family birthday gathering this weekend. I agreed to attend, but I already know that for the most part I will be the outsider again and pretty pissed off at their level of ignorance and being laughed at. So it's best to keep quiet which sucks, because then I'm denying who I am and supporting thei blissful ignorance. It's my indigo nature to cause friction among illusion. It is like stirring up the dirt to then be dissolved for the truth to come out. As that happens people feel very uncomfortable and dislike me or turn on me. Any thoughts on this? Are you also the only one aware among a family of sheeple?
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I stopped going to all family functions. That works for me, but perhaps not for you. Like-minded thinkers ARE your 'family'. Why bang your head against the proverbial brick wall? I'm Christian, so I pray for my family that they some day open their hearts to the truth, but otherwise it does no good to rail at the deaf and blind. It just makes you frustrated, sad and angry.

Like-minded souls are your family. Please remember that.
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I wish I had the answers, but I don't. Maybe you have some ideas...??

The members of my family are all quite intelligent and educated people with successful careers. At the same time they are ALL Sheeple and totally unaware. I've always been considered as different and tolerated as "the artist" who's out there." There is no one in the family though who tolerates and agrees to discussing any issues that I bring up; most of those issues are about the truth behind the veil. I think that many sheeple feel threatened when you question their "reality". This wouldn't be so serious if their ignorance didn't cause harm to the latest generation. For example, I tried to tell my sister with two infants about the dangers of vaccines and she didn't even respond to me. She just told my mother that she didn't want to take any chances of her kids getting sick. Duh! Ever since she had them all vaccinated, they are constantly sick. I feel that their immune system was weakend and I care because it's my nephew and niece but I can't do anything for them at this point. There's a family birthday gathering this weekend. I agreed to attend, but I already know that for the most part I will be the outsider again and pretty pissed off at their level of ignorance and being laughed at. So it's best to keep quiet which sucks, because then I'm denying who I am and supporting thei blissful ignorance. It's my indigo nature to cause friction among illusion. It is like stirring up the dirt to then be dissolved for the truth to come out. As that happens people feel very uncomfortable and dislike me or turn on me. Any thoughts on this? Are you also the only one aware among a family of sheeple?
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Yes. My family is the same way.

Ive found that theres absolutely nothing you can do to open eyes. People are so far brainwashed they will lash out if you even suggest that brainwashing occurs.

People pick and choose what they want to hear if it aligns with their current beliefs. Even showing facts will not change their beliefs.

Tbtb have had this figured out and have socially engineered generations of bleating sheeps.

Unfortunately, trying to open eyes only causes people to shut down.

My only success has been pointing to things outside the main current issues. For instance, instead of pointing to obama's lies, point out another politician's lies and add the fact that no politician is to be trusted.

Consider researching communication skills and debate strategies. People dont respond to classic conversation. People believe the reporters on tv because they have "authority" and hypnotic tones that bypass conscious thiking. The other thing that really helps is simply "actively listening" to your family. People are more likely to listen to you if they feel like you listen to them. But then again, some people just talk, talk talk and never listen. Theres nothing you can do with these people. Cut your losses...

Btw, a common tactic is Getting someone to agree with part of what you're saying in order for them to accept the whole thing. Its classic communication rapport and used to get people to sway to your side. This is done in msm all the time.

The best thing you can do is put yourself first. I understand your love for your nephew and niece. You'll have to tread gently. But most importantly, try to work internally. Its the only life you have

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thats so true lol
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That's already some great advice! Thanks guys. I'm lucky that I have an outlet in painting, too. The messgae is hiden in my paintigs, hehe.
I read somewhere that we should let the people sleep who are not ready to wake up yet. If they get pushed, they may get traumatized. It may be good to just be ther for support once they start awakening.

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I like that saying. ^^

Op, if you're gonna educate some sheeple on stuff you better have an arsenal of facts ready that trumps everyone in the room. And for the sheep, you need to be able to make accurate predictions. But even these won't wake most fools up. It'll just make them resent you.

I hate to say it but you have to write most people off as if they have died. I can say that after 20 years of prying minds. And I am not the black sheep of my family. I am the leader. By far the most educated and succesful. When fam has problems they come to me for advice. Even my brother who is a lawyer. He's awake by the way. Both of us team up on our families. Inlaw's too. And it does no good. The brainwashing is so thorough that in reality you probably won't make a difference. And I'm not being a pessimist.

I suggest you focus on your own life. There is no point in having this knowledge if you aren't getting ready. Because you likely aren't going to wake anyone up. Take care of #1.

I got in a heated debate one night years ago with a sister inlaw. Keep in mind that my knowledge pool is vast. I can sight links, examples, historical facts, etc... Off the top of my head for hours on end that are both accurate and incontrovertible. This low-brow female literally shook her head in denial and said I don't believe it you are wrong. I said fine but remember this conversation tonight. That's all I ask. I said remember this moment. Do not forget what I told you.

Years go on...she starts emailing and texting everyone in a panic about the economy crashing and a couple other things. Her source of info, some guy selling a book, has convinced her the end is nigh. I instantly confronted her about it and our conversation and she STILL was confrontational and obtuse about it even though she was trying to inform people herself. Bitch.

The collective human mind is down In a gutter of selfish narcissistic ignorance. Nobody can see past the end of their nose. And the more educated they are the worst it is.

Be a teacher when you can. When the opportunity is there. But don't push your knowledge on people. Just get ready, quietly. Have your place, your plan, and your stuff. You were chosen to see. You were given a gift. Not everyone was chosen like you. Some were chosen to perish or suffer. That is their own destiny. Follow yours.
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I like that saying. ^^

Op, if you're gonna educate some sheeple on stuff you better have an arsenal of facts ready that trumps everyone in the room. And for the sheep, you need to be able to make accurate predictions. But even these won't wake most fools up. It'll just make them resent you.

I hate to say it but you have to write most people off as if they have died. I can say that after 20 years of prying minds. And I am not the black sheep of my family. I am the leader. By far the most educated and succesful. When fam has problems they come to me for advice. Even my brother who is a lawyer. He's awake by the way. Both of us team up on our families. Inlaw's too. And it does no good. The brainwashing is so thorough that in reality you probably won't make a difference. And I'm not being a pessimist.

I suggest you focus on your own life. There is no point in having this knowledge if you aren't getting ready. Because you likely aren't going to wake anyone up. Take care of #1.

I got in a heated debate one night years ago with a sister inlaw. Keep in mind that my knowledge pool is vast. I can sight links, examples, historical facts, etc... Off the top of my head for hours on end that are both accurate and incontrovertible. This low-brow female literally shook her head in denial and said I don't believe it you are wrong. I said fine but remember this conversation tonight. That's all I ask. I said remember this moment. Do not forget what I told you.

Years go on...she starts emailing and texting everyone in a panic about the economy crashing and a couple other things. Her source of info, some guy selling a book, has convinced her the end is nigh. I instantly confronted her about it and our conversation and she STILL was confrontational and obtuse about it even though she was trying to inform people herself. Bitch.

The collective human mind is down In a gutter of selfish narcissistic ignorance. Nobody can see past the end of their nose. And the more educated they are the worst it is.

Be a teacher when you can. When the opportunity is there. But don't push your knowledge on people. Just get ready, quietly. Have your place, your plan, and your stuff. You were chosen to see. You were given a gift. Not everyone was chosen like you. Some were chosen to perish or suffer. That is their own destiny. Follow yours.
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Nice post. :)

Its great you have someone in your family you can connect with on this level
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This must become the new GLP motto.
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Classic..
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Classic..
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I wish I had the answers, but I don't. Maybe you have some ideas...??

The members of my family are all quite intelligent and educated people with successful careers. At the same time they are ALL Sheeple and totally unaware. I've always been considered as different and tolerated as "the artist" who's out there." There is no one in the family though who tolerates and agrees to discussing any issues that I bring up; most of those issues are about the truth behind the veil. I think that many sheeple feel threatened when you question their "reality". This wouldn't be so serious if their ignorance didn't cause harm to the latest generation. For example, I tried to tell my sister with two infants about the dangers of vaccines and she didn't even respond to me. She just told my mother that she didn't want to take any chances of her kids getting sick. Duh! Ever since she had them all vaccinated, they are constantly sick. I feel that their immune system was weakend and I care because it's my nephew and niece but I can't do anything for them at this point. There's a family birthday gathering this weekend. I agreed to attend, but I already know that for the most part I will be the outsider again and pretty pissed off at their level of ignorance and being laughed at. So it's best to keep quiet which sucks, because then I'm denying who I am and supporting thei blissful ignorance. It's my indigo nature to cause friction among illusion. It is like stirring up the dirt to then be dissolved for the truth to come out. As that happens people feel very uncomfortable and dislike me or turn on me. Any thoughts on this? Are you also the only one aware among a family of sheeple?
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I'm in the EXACT same situation. Even down to the sister with 2 kids although they are twin girls. I try to make small points to get my family to think. That's all I can do.
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Maybe there are other sides to you, than constantly
manning the barricades..?

Avoid the controversial stuff for once, take part
in the small talk (still philosophical and political
points to be made - without stirring any shit if you're
skilled enough); maybe it's worth the effort, to counteract
evil with an afternoon or so of simple, positive togetherness?

Very much recognize your situation, OP.
Not saying it is easy ;)
 Quoting: Accidental Stoner 26231411


I will try this approach this weekend. I will be among many sheeple, all dad's family and friends. See if I can make it with love and peace on my mind, staying centered and compassioate without busting someone in the mouth.

drama
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I agree with the other posters that it is difficult to "awaken" friends and family. But it is absolutely incorrect to suggest that we should not continue to TRY to awaken others. It certainly is not impossible.

Remember that WE too were once "sheeple", and had a breakthrough. When presented with the right argument, facts, and sometimes from the right person, then an awakening can occur. Sometimes it doesn't come all at once, but slowly over time.

By all means, it is our DUTY to try to awaken our people, especially friends and family. We must never give up. To give up is defeatism, and what Satanic PTB want us to do.

I would suggest, above all, that when trying to "awaken" others, do it WITH LOVE AND UNDERSTANDING. Don't compromise on anything, but remember that they are under "brainwashing" and need a lot of help to break out of it. Be very slow to raise your voice or get angry.

Some people may never see the light. But others WILL. It just may take a few weeks, months, or even years. Some that eventually awaken may never actually admit to you that YOU played a big part, but the seeds you plant will have some level of influence.
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I truly believe that the only thing that will wake them up is if they go through something traumatic, because in most people's world, nothing bad ever happens - it happens to other people. You can talk until you're blue in the face and it usually does no good. I have many family members on my husband's side (including his parents) that really don't have a clue. Like I said, it has to affect THEM personally - otherwise it's just someone else's doom, not theirs. OP, you know what you know. You realize that most of the world does not live like the United States...this false little bubble we live in can't go on forever. Just take one day at a time and know that some people in life always have to learn the hard way. Keep on keepin' on.
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I truly believe that the only thing that will wake them up is if they go through something traumatic, because in most people's world, nothing bad ever happens - it happens to other people. You can talk until you're blue in the face and it usually does no good. I have many family members on my husband's side (including his parents) that really don't have a clue. Like I said, it has to affect THEM personally - otherwise it's just someone else's doom, not theirs. OP, you know what you know. You realize that most of the world does not live like the United States...this false little bubble we live in can't go on forever. Just take one day at a time and know that some people in life always have to learn the hard way. Keep on keepin' on.
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I live in both worlds and sheeple are the same everywhere. As one poster said, the like minded are your family and it doesn't matter where they live.
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I find myself in the same situation, I avoid all contact with these zombies. Their stupidity annoys me to no end. They will sit for hours yakken about some "baby shower" or how so and so is divorcing his wife ect....totally bull-crap. the first minute you open your mouth to make mention of the REAL WORLD issues smoke comes from their hears and nostrils and their demonic horns come up from the head. weird as hell.
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I find myself in the same situation, I avoid all contact with these zombies. Their stupidity annoys me to no end. They will sit for hours yakken about some "baby shower" or how so and so is divorcing his wife ect....totally bull-crap. the first minute you open your mouth to make mention of the REAL WORLD issues smoke comes from their hears and nostrils and their demonic horns come up from the head. weird as hell.
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I agree. It appears that many sheeple are possessed by demonic entities.

weirdo
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The T.V. is the truth as far as they are concerned.

I have learnt the hard way not to push it. Hints are fine but if they are not ready to hear then they won't be listening.

I have made video complications of news reports, respected people and respected websites for when they are ready. I make it clear I may not be right but can they at least admit it's interesting.

My last failed attempt was El Heirro and the tens of thousands of earthquakes happening last year (and still happening). I said this could be an issue and showed the sites, videos and earthquake maps. My Dad (bless him) found a web designer on the island with a vested interest in tourism explaining that he was a weekend amateur seismologist and everything was fine. My Dad 100% believed this web designer over the evidence and that was the end of the matter for him.

And this is the problem... people like their comfort zone and if you try to move them outside of this when they don't want too they will find anything to convince them you're wrong, regardless of how they get the information.

My Dad does not believe the economy will "ever" collapse, does not believe the Governments are corrupt, does not believe there has EVER been a "real" conspiracy. He's happy with the World just as it is. If that's where he wants to be then I should leave that comfort zone alone. Maybe one day he'll start asking questions but until that day there isn't much I/we can do.

What's funny is I'm now being called "weird" by them even though I have never spoken about any conspiracy to them. Just the fact I look into them makes me weird. Go figure!
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Part of being free means being true to yourself. I have found that my family prefers that I be myself. Of course, my family now has a 'no politics' rule during family events, but that is so we can get along during festive times.
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The T.V. is the truth as far as they are concerned.

I have learnt the hard way not to push it. Hints are fine but if they are not ready to hear then they won't be listening.

I have made video complications of news reports, respected people and respected websites for when they are ready. I make it clear I may not be right but can they at least admit it's interesting.

My last failed attempt was El Heirro and the tens of thousands of earthquakes happening last year (and still happening). I said this could be an issue and showed the sites, videos and earthquake maps. My Dad (bless him) found a web designer on the island with a vested interest in tourism explaining that he was a weekend amateur seismologist and everything was fine. My Dad 100% believed this web designer over the evidence and that was the end of the matter for him.

And this is the problem... people like their comfort zone and if you try to move them outside of this when they don't want too they will find anything to convince them you're wrong, regardless of how they get the information.

My Dad does not believe the economy will "ever" collapse, does not believe the Governments are corrupt, does not believe there has EVER been a "real" conspiracy. He's happy with the World just as it is. If that's where he wants to be then I should leave that comfort zone alone. Maybe one day he'll start asking questions but until that day there isn't much I/we can do.

What's funny is I'm now being called "weird" by them even though I have never spoken about any conspiracy to them. Just the fact I look into them makes me weird. Go figure!
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As you said they either find anything to convince them you're wrong which requires thinking effort on their part or they just call you "weird", "artist" or "nuts" to label you. This way they don't feel threatened by your views and can just shut out all that you have to say.
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I find myself in the same situation, I avoid all contact with these zombies. Their stupidity annoys me to no end. They will sit for hours yakken about some "baby shower" or how so and so is divorcing his wife ect....totally bull-crap. the first minute you open your mouth to make mention of the REAL WORLD issues smoke comes from their hears and nostrils and their demonic horns come up from the head. weird as hell.
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I agree. It appears that many sheeple are possessed by demonic entities.

weirdo
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I wish I was making this up, situation is serious enough to divide family's and turn them against each other.

It's a spiritual battle we are fighting,not sure the outcome.
protect yourself keep distant from these walking dead. They the first to line up at a FEMA camp begging for help from the goberment.
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You have to hit everyone where it hurts. My daughter (7) loves to shoot the .22 rifle and the air rifle. She came one day from school telling us that we need to vote Obama, because Romney will take women pregnancy care or some other shit she heard from her colleagues.
We replied that Obama wants to take everyone guns. The next second, she change her mind. Vote Romney!
So, you need to find out what hurts most for everyone, and educate in that direction. It is not easy, but it's doable (well, at least in some cases; others are simply too dumb).
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I do not have a problem with most of my own family. However my mates family are VERY devout Christians. They think that any sort of prepping for anything other than a winter storm that might snow you in for a few days is showing a lack of faith in the in the LORD. In short they feel that if SHTF their faith in Christ will be all they need if they are meant to make it through. If they do not make it then they will go to heaven to be with the LORD and that is what is meant to happen.

Needless to say I learned in very short order NOT to speak to them about much of anything.
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The Sheep are part of the Flock.

They are a Collective.


You are the One Neo !

You have become an individual.
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Thank you all for your beautiful advice.
I feel your pain, OP.

Now, a quip:

As we are all unfound
Just look out and around
Turn deep down
And see

We are all our own ground
Forever unbound
And the stars we are already
To be.
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Re: How to deal with your Sheeple family
1) silence

2) keep your distance / draw a line. only play their game as long as it benefits you. sheeple are unconsciously wired to help us

3) plant small seeds of truth when they are the most receptive.

4) lead by example

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