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Why do you have a problem with people receiving GOV assistants but not corporations?

 
Renegade (Me too)

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11/08/2012 06:03 PM

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Re: Why do you have a problem with people receiving GOV assistants but not corporations?
This is what I think about welfare to help the disabled, poor etc.

All you advocates who support this so called method of 'charity' want it this way because the truth is that is supposedly the only way you can feed and clothe the hungry.

You dont want to face the moral dilemma of 'should I as an individual donate some of my money, some of my clothes etc' when instead you want to take the easy way out and support the worst kind of charity, if you can call it that, by the most immoral institution ever known to man.

Your mantra is, 'out of sight, out of mind' because you can't bring yourself to make that decision to voluntarily give your money or your clothes or your time to help those who need a helping hand.

It's too easy to say 'hey I'm a giving person, I pay taxes and it goes to help the the poor, so that makes me a good person'.

A true test of a society and the individual is their will to practice true charity and not the charity that we are forced to pay into.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17537156


Hey, I'm a giving person. I pay taxes and it goes to whomever the government sees fit.

Well fuck that! I refuse to participate anymore. The liberals and government has sucked me dry.

I'm joining the welfare bots.

Last Edited by Renegade () on 11/08/2012 06:05 PM
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Éireann
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11/08/2012 06:15 PM

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TARP trillions, or $80 a month in food stamps... you decide.
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People never think to consider corporations as "Useless Eaters" :) They take the majority of government aid yet the broken people, like me, get accused of sponging off the backs of tax payers.

Corporations rarely pay their portion in taxes, yet even as a SSDI recipient, I pay tax every time I go to buy gas, buy groceries, pay a utility bill. I don't have many bills or outgoing income simply because my income is so limited. Rather pisses me off considering how many years I worked and paid into the system, but I suppose it could be worse.

My life is a lot simpler than it was when I was working. I have fewer things to manage, fewer luxuries such as no TV, no going out to eat, no special foods, etc. I'm not complaining, mind you. There is a certain freedom that comes with a minimalist lifestyle, but there is a richness to my life that is missing that those little luxuries used to fill. I don't know many corporations that could slim down their appetites to make more of the profits they do get. Instead, they seek more profits and aid to make up for their extravagance. I'd like to see some of these CEOs of companies like General Electric, Exxon, and the other big non-tax paying corporations live day to day like I do. They'd go insane.
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11/08/2012 06:17 PM
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Re: Why do you have a problem with people receiving GOV assistants but not corporations?
90% of all stock in corporations owned by 10% of Americans. So corporate welfare increases profits and stock value and dividends - and that money goes right to the top. Also they pay low capital gains and dividend taxes on their stock sales and dividends. More money to the top. If you factor in the imperialist wars which resulted in tremendous corporate profits for military corps and oil companies and companies like Halburton, you get the idea that the US government has spent TRILLIONS which has been transferred from the people (via the deficit) right to the top.

The whole argument about welfare and medicare and medicaid is made because who else is going to pay for all the theft that is now the deficit? They have to create a villain and a false cause - otherwise the focus would be on them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3978737


Buddy your WRONG. Do you homework moron:

More than 80 percent of the stock market is owned by individual investors, either directly, or inside a Mutual fund, or inside whatever holdings they have in their 401(k).
The only stocks NOT ultimately owned by individuals are those held inside endowments.
The very idea that the "very wealthy" own most of the market is absurd if you think a moment; why would the market have ANY volatility if it was only being moved by a few very wealthy investors? Why would they keep selling stocks back and forth between each other?
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11/08/2012 07:13 PM

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Buddy your WRONG. Do you homework moron:

More than 80 percent of the stock market is owned by individual investors, either directly, or inside a Mutual fund, or inside whatever holdings they have in their 401(k).
The only stocks NOT ultimately owned by individuals are those held inside endowments.
The very idea that the "very wealthy" own most of the market is absurd if you think a moment; why would the market have ANY volatility if it was only being moved by a few very wealthy investors? Why would they keep selling stocks back and forth between each other?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4613981


Mutual funds and 401K plans are corporate. Consolidated individual dollars. Anyway,...

I know this is 2006 data but hey,..I'm sure is has only gotten worse. Somewhere near the 10 percent AC post perhaps?

In 2012, the disparity has led to austerity wars in some places,...

Maybe here sometime.

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"STANFORD GRADUATE SCHOOL OF BUSINESS—Since World War II, financial institutions have come to own a far greater proportion of stocks than private households have. Just after the war, individual citizens owned 90% of the stock market; by 2006, they owned only 30%. And the trend is not restricted just to the United States. It spans the globe."
[link to www.gsb.stanford.edu]

Z

Last Edited by zacksavage on 11/08/2012 07:20 PM
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11/09/2012 11:02 AM
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11/09/2012 12:19 PM

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Re: Why do you have a problem with people receiving GOV assistants but not corporations?
90% of all stock in corporations owned by 10% of Americans. So corporate welfare increases profits and stock value and dividends - and that money goes right to the top. Also they pay low capital gains and dividend taxes on their stock sales and dividends. More money to the top. If you factor in the imperialist wars which resulted in tremendous corporate profits for military corps and oil companies and companies like Halburton, you get the idea that the US government has spent TRILLIONS which has been transferred from the people (via the deficit) right to the top.

The whole argument about welfare and medicare and medicaid is made because who else is going to pay for all the theft that is now the deficit? They have to create a villain and a false cause - otherwise the focus would be on them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3978737


Buddy your WRONG. Do you homework moron:

More than 80 percent of the stock market is owned by individual investors, either directly, or inside a Mutual fund, or inside whatever holdings they have in their 401(k).
The only stocks NOT ultimately owned by individuals are those held inside endowments.
The very idea that the "very wealthy" own most of the market is absurd if you think a moment; why would the market have ANY volatility if it was only being moved by a few very wealthy investors? Why would they keep selling stocks back and forth between each other?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4613981


Are you all done now?

chuckle


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In time we hate that which we often fear.

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