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Why do you have a problem with people receiving GOV assistants but not corporations?

 
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Corporations provide jobs and drive the economy and should be encouraged to prosper in any way possible by the government. Incentives to business usually involves letting them keep money that they have already earned themselves. On the other hand, providing a free ride to useless parasites who contribute nothing to society but crime and more parasites is stupid and counterproductive. Plus, it deprives those who receive it of any motive to maybe get busy and create a corporation of their own. None of this really matters anyway, we have reached the point where there are enough unproductive people in the country to vote themselves money and the US has begun its descent into the trash bin of history. Look at the history of the Roman empire. And learn to speak Chinese.
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Small businesses matter and provide the jobs

Corporations provide slave-labor jobs with low pay

Men and women consuming provide the jobs.

Without all of us the corporations would cease to exist

Time to get rid of corporations and go back to small family run businesses
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11/08/2012 09:23 AM
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Did any of you notice how products are deteriorating ?

Buy shoes lately? These corporations make shitty products. Food tastes like shit now. Clothing falls apart faster. Have you bought shoes lately?
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Corporate welfare is 100x greater...but divide and conquer among the people is more important.
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11/08/2012 09:38 AM
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I was trying to get people to think about this angle just yesterday.

Clueless.
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11/08/2012 10:04 AM
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Re: Why do you have a problem with people receiving GOV assistants but not corporations?
Corporations provide jobs and drive the economy and should be encouraged to prosper in any way possible by the government. Incentives to business usually involves letting them keep money that they have already earned themselves. On the other hand, providing a free ride to useless parasites who contribute nothing to society but crime and more parasites is stupid and counterproductive. Plus, it deprives those who receive it of any motive to maybe get busy and create a corporation of their own. None of this really matters anyway, we have reached the point where there are enough unproductive people in the country to vote themselves money and the US has begun its descent into the trash bin of history. Look at the history of the Roman empire. And learn to speak Chinese.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25059788


Small businesses matter and provide the jobs

Corporations provide slave-labor jobs with low pay

Men and women consuming provide the jobs.

Without all of us the corporations would cease to exist

Time to get rid of corporations and go back to small family run businesses
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26551418


corporations have a place in the economy but not in this form as we know it.

The reason they are so big is because they are protected by gov and the regulations and tax code is in place for their benifit.

In doing this, they are able to crowd out the competition like small businesses and the like.

So the problem isn't the corporation but rather government.

We need to get rid of government out of the economy all together.

If that happens, you get competition and small family business can operate in the market.
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11/08/2012 10:07 AM
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That's a good point OP. Many people are fine if bailouts go to big corporations that probably deserved to go under because of greed and bad business practices, but are terribly offended when any kind of money at all goes to the poor, the sick, and the elderly.

Could these anti-human attitudes be the result of corporate brainwashing through subliminal advertising or part of the reptilian agenda?
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11/08/2012 10:12 AM
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Did any of you notice how products are deteriorating ?

Buy shoes lately? These corporations make shitty products. Food tastes like shit now. Clothing falls apart faster. Have you bought shoes lately?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26551418


The reason is because a lot of the goods are being imported and its cheaper than the goods you are making in your own backyard.

America at one time manufactured a whole lot of goods and exported it all over the world because it was high quality and it was cheaper for the consumer to buy in those foreign countries.

Also, these goods were made en masse and the cost of producing those goods got cheaper over time, and yet they were able to pay higher wages.
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11/08/2012 10:17 AM
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Re: Why do you have a problem with people receiving GOV assistants but not corporations?
A lot of you people here on GLP seem to think people on welfare(the vets, the disabled, the old, people who make under 20k) are the problem. But there is no outrage or anger for the companies who make billions yet find ways to stick their hands in the pot. When you come one here and make threads about people who receive "handouts" when most of them actually need all the help they can get but fail to mention companies who exploit gov assistants you look like a bunch of selective problem solving hypocrite. How can you sit behind your screen and bash these people yet turn the other way at the real problem. Its like the cop who would rather chase down someone peeing in an ally instead of the guy mugging down the street.

We need to do better.
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Nobody, I repeat nobody has a problem with vets, truly disabled,old or truly poor recieving help,benifits,assistance from the federal government, nobody, not a single sane person in the US has a problem with that, and YOU know it. You know excaly who they have a problem with, everyone that does no fall in the above catagories and uses and abuses the system.

Can you please name the corporations that recieve subsidies and how much?

and yes certain corporate welfare enrages me more.
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11/08/2012 10:19 AM

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TARP trillions, or $80 a month in food stamps... you decide.
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You'd better multiply that $80 per month MANY times over. FACT is, the average "welfare" recipient in the U.S. receives over $61,000 per year in benefits.

Besides, corporations DO create jobs. They may just hire me or a loved one. No welfare recipient will do that.
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Link?
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Re: Why do you have a problem with people receiving GOV assistants but not corporations?
How can you say that corporate welfare and social welfare are two different things?

They are both one in the same.
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11/08/2012 10:22 AM
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Re: Why do you have a problem with people receiving GOV assistants but not corporations?
corporations like that suck too but the moochers have gotten out of control and the sense of entitlement is unreal.
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11/08/2012 10:24 AM
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Re: Why do you have a problem with people receiving GOV assistants but not corporations?
Dumb ass people like you OP are the reason America is in the shap it is.

1st - most of us do not talk about the vets or old people, that is just the STUPID DEMS trying to say we are.

We talk about people who do not need the Gov. but don't want to get a job and just suck of the Gov all there life.

2nd - the corporation give back by giving people jobs dumb ass, and the takers give nothing back.

You will see as this keeps going on, that this does not work and I can't wait.
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11/08/2012 10:25 AM
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Re: Why do you have a problem with people receiving GOV assistants but not corporations?
I am not for corporate welfare, bailouts of any type.
Bankruptcy is in place to help corporations restructure if needed.

any government benefit beside disability should be limited and temporary, and if you draw welfare you should have to work for it like anything else. not get a free check. each county needs ppl to clean roads offices, etc.
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11/08/2012 10:26 AM
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the money is in trusts , charities , foundations , etc . A senator investigated this in the 50's and got told to go shit in his hat.
It has not gotten any better since then
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I have not seen this much disinformation in one thread since Nancy Lieder posted her first one. No wonder we cannot get the vote right in this country.
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Re: Why do you have a problem with people receiving GOV assistants but not corporations?
Why are some posters venting their anger at the corporations and welfare dependents?

You should be angry at government. That's the problem.

The bailouts and the welfare cheques are a consequence of gov interference.
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11/08/2012 10:29 AM

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Nobody has a problem with helping out the vets, disabled, or elderly. It's the lazy "I deserve it" fucks we don't care to help.
"You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it." -Morpheus
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Re: Why do you have a problem with people receiving GOV assistants but not corporations?
corporations have a place in the economy but not in this form as we know it.

The reason they are so big is because they are protected by gov and the regulations and tax code is in place for their benifit.

In doing this, they are able to crowd out the competition like small businesses and the like.

So the problem isn't the corporation but rather government.

We need to get rid of government out of the economy all together.

If that happens, you get competition and small family business can operate in the market.
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No, we get unregulated egomaniacle robber-barons and increased slave labor.

Corporations = Military Industrial Complex = War
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11/08/2012 10:30 AM
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Because the people running corporations are productive. They create something.

Porch monkeys and trailer park trash don't create anything.

It's obvious to people who are productive what the difference is. You're a lazy unemployed loser who cannot fathom what I have said could be true...that's the issue.
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Nobody has a problem with helping out the vets, disabled, or elderly. It's the lazy "I deserve it" fucks we don't care to help.
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We?

FU
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11/08/2012 10:32 AM
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Why are some posters venting their anger at the corporations and welfare dependents?

You should be angry at government. That's the problem.

The bailouts and the welfare cheques are a consequence of gov interference.
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Look at who is "the government". It is a revolving door ... you know ... I for one welcome Obama's new cabinet appointments. his last batch left a bad taste in my mouth.
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Do you go to Wally World, or do you go and pay more at the fam owned grocery stores? Poor people, like they try to make us all be, will choose the cheaper mass produced route to be able to save a couple dollars for hyperinflated gasoline.
Never underestimate the spine of a poor man's back, when he's against the wall, and his future's black.
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Government is the largest corporation on planet earth.
Government is the largest corporation on planet earth.
Government is the largest corporation on planet earth.
Government is the largest corporation on planet earth.
Government is the largest corporation on planet earth.
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How about we cut their assistance, The paradigm is that without huge government, there would be no Corporate welfare.
Government and banks are one, we live under fascism, and this is why it's a bad thing!
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OP, are you seriously that naive? This is GLP, populated by racist, white, right wingers. Corporations are run by Whites, the poor receiving GOV assistance are by and large, people of color (Black and Brown). I mean, do you really have to ask that question?
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Corporations provide jobs and drive the economy and should be encouraged to prosper in any way possible by the government. Incentives to business usually involves letting them keep money that they have already earned themselves. On the other hand, providing a free ride to useless parasites who contribute nothing to society but crime and more parasites is stupid and counterproductive. Plus, it deprives those who receive it of any motive to maybe get busy and create a corporation of their own. None of this really matters anyway, we have reached the point where there are enough unproductive people in the country to vote themselves money and the US has begun its descent into the trash bin of history. Look at the history of the Roman empire. And learn to speak Chinese.
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Regarding parasites voting themselves luxury. You must consider the technological advancement of the last 50 years. how many nick knack shops do we need when amazon will deliver? How many metal workers do we need when a CNC machine can do it better, safer, cheaper?

The corporate vehicle is an adult shark that has been protected 'till adulthood. no personal liability, 2 day bankrupcy, million dollar tax refunds AFTER billions of profit. Once these spoiled brats are released, they consume everything in its ecosystem, including government.

We don't need more people starting corporations. such as daycare facilities, services for education, homebuilders, etc. we need more people raising their own kids and actually living in the homes we overbuilt from 1994-2008. We do need healthcare for people who don't happen to work for a corporation that pays no taxes.
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You make a good point in that.. the industrial revolution is long gone. As more and more jobs are replaced by process automation.. less workers are needed.. now what?

Computers replace accountants, robotic assembly replaces line workers.. there is simply less need for laborers. And yet we fail to grasp the systemic nature of a changing economy and blame the individuals themselves.
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Automatization means one day humans may not need to work as much as they do now and may be able to live better lives, but it also means human population needs to stop growing. You can't expect to have 8 children and have the government support you. Yet welfare foments such thinking. We're in a turbulent epoch of humanity where people would do best to stop breeding so we can take it to the next level. Specially on third world nations.
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Re: Why do you have a problem with people receiving GOV assistants but not corporations?
A lot of you people here on GLP seem to think people on welfare(the vets, the disabled, the old, people who make under 20k) are the problem. But there is no outrage or anger for the companies who make billions yet find ways to stick their hands in the pot. When you come one here and make threads about people who receive "handouts" when most of them actually need all the help they can get but fail to mention companies who exploit gov assistants you look like a bunch of selective problem solving hypocrite. How can you sit behind your screen and bash these people yet turn the other way at the real problem. Its like the cop who would rather chase down someone peeing in an ally instead of the guy mugging down the street.

We need to do better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4496880


Nobody, I repeat nobody has a problem with vets, truly disabled,old or truly poor recieving help,benifits,assistance from the federal government, nobody, not a single sane person in the US has a problem with that, and YOU know it. You know excaly who they have a problem with, everyone that does no fall in the above catagories and uses and abuses the system.

Can you please name the corporations that recieve subsidies and how much?

and yes certain corporate welfare enrages me more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1170214



^^^This^^^

And of course there has been plenty of outrage at corporate welfare as well.

Here's a link to a thread I made about all the green energy companies Obama has thrown money away to that have gone bankrupt.


Thread: Obama’s Taxpayer-Backed Green Energy Failures


So this is an invalid argument that people here only object to welfare for individuals.

I think everybody here knows this and this is a totally fake contention.

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Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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Re: Why do you have a problem with people receiving GOV assistants but not corporations?
corporations have a place in the economy but not in this form as we know it.

The reason they are so big is because they are protected by gov and the regulations and tax code is in place for their benifit.

In doing this, they are able to crowd out the competition like small businesses and the like.

So the problem isn't the corporation but rather government.

We need to get rid of government out of the economy all together.

If that happens, you get competition and small family business can operate in the market.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17537156


No, we get unregulated egomaniacle robber-barons and increased slave labor.

Corporations = Military Industrial Complex = War
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24950699


How do you think these corporations got so big and are getting bigger still even in a weak economy?

Thousands of regulations and taxes have been passed and yet they have not changed their tune one bit.

If you take away the government and repeal regulations and taxes, you get competition and those small family run businesses will come back.

The cost of running a small business is enormous with the taxes and regulations and so that's why small business go out of business.

The corporations don't have to worry because they are protected and get bigger thanks to the lessening of the competition, they can absorb these taxes and regulations.
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11/08/2012 10:41 AM
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Re: Why do you have a problem with people receiving GOV assistants but not corporations?
It all doesn't matter because now that BAM IS BACK IN the saddle the multinational Corporate Clones who keep pushing the VOODOO ECONOMIC Spill better reinvest them 32 trillion dollars sitting over seas before QE3/Eternal devalues that money untill it ain't funny.
And they BETTER NOT INVEST OVER SEAS becuase the tariffs and taxes on that crap is getting ready to skyrocket.
NOW EVERYONE BEND OVER RED ROVER. BOOYAH!!!!
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11/08/2012 10:43 AM
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Re: Why do you have a problem with people receiving GOV assistants but not corporations?
Corporations exist to PRODUCE PROFIT by extracting value from labour and resources.

If a Corporation cannot produce profit, it dies.

When the government gives money to corporations, it borrows it at interest from the Banking Cartel. This destroys the system of production several-fold. I will spare you the details.

It is also fascist/communist - TEXTBOOK in definition, because the population has been forced by the STATE, at gun-point, to give their capital to the failed corporation.

When people are given money by the gov, it is SOCIALISM, which is redistribution of capital from 'richer' people to poorer people.

These are two very different concepts.However, both of them are bad.
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Re: Why do you have a problem with people receiving GOV assistants but not corporations?
I don't think anyone should be bailed out PERIOD!

However, I have bigger a problem with demoncrats USING the handouts to manipulate the people.

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