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Why do you have a problem with people receiving GOV assistants but not corporations?

 
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The assistance I mostly despise is for the lazy ass mother fuckers who have an EBT card but got the newest air jordons on their feet. And before you shout racist, that also applies to the trailer trash hoe with 10 kids by 10 different men and no desire to get their fat ass off the couch to find a job.

Corporations do create jobs, right? WTF does a lazy fucking 7th grade education level welfare recipient create? More babies hardwired to be like they mommy!

Understand?
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The bottom line folks is that the productive sector of society is being parasited by the government to support all the non productive ones. That will last until the productive ones stop complying then everything will merely collapse.
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YES!! FINALLY!! SOME GET IT!!

The poor are not the problem, it is Corporate Welfare that is destroying this Nation!

That and the Fractional reserve fiat banking system, but nearly everyone uses it, so, in effect, we are all to blame.

FIAT money is the problem, but Gold standard is not the solution.

Demand lawful money per 12-USC 411 and end fractional reserves that finance ALL OF IT!
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Nah you're stupid BOTH is the problem.
Your type also say "oh don't blame the illegals coming here raping and murder everyone only blame the politicians".

You don't give parasites are free pass, doesn't matter if they're a parasite company or some parasite that don't want to work, they're both parasites they BOTH need to be stopped.

People like you are the problem here because you are hampering the efforts to take away both groups by cutting the spending on them both. F*** both parasitegroups.

That has been the death of your land just like it's the death of my own country, all this sparing some of the criminals.

"Oh but his crime is much less serious", both crimes are serious both needs to be prosecuted. All of them, companies and people parasite, all of them needs to go to jail.
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This. You are standing up and resisting the misdirection, and I thank you.
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You are both IGNORANT, if you endorse the Federal Reserve System, you are just as much to blame for the debt and slave system it creates.

I am sick of the "working class" which I am, trying to blame others when they, in fact, are the group with the largest numbers, this means they (you) have the ability to STOP IT.

Demand lawful money and you will have an effect on the entire system.

Pointing fingers at others and not seeing YOUR personal role in all this is the problem, not the solution.

Misdirection, my ass, pointing to the people with the power to change by changing YOUR OWN ACTIONS, yes.

Demand lawful money per 12 usc 411 on every bank transaction and you will have a positive effect, everything else is misdirection.
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Oh please, yes the Fed is sketchy, but it's sort of a different issue. If I get a job and demand to be paid in lawful money, they won't know what to do, maybe they won't pay me at all because they don't do "lawful money". I can take the FRNs and buy gold (better check it for tungsten core) or silver myself if I want, though.
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A lot of you people here on GLP seem to think people on welfare(the vets, the disabled, the old, people who make under 20k) are the problem.
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Really? Like who? And where?

And it's not just corporations that are the problem. It's the BANKS.

It's obvious as fuck you're a Democrat, since you are spewing the same, idiotic talking points about corporate welfare being the problem and avoiding to talk about THE BANKS.

So stop posting on the internet please. And yes, too much unregulated welfare hurts the poor as well.
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corporations are owned by people so it makes no real difference.
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Actually it makes a real difference to the destitute and disabled folks who receive government assistance, such as it is. They get a tiny pittance each month - not enough to actually live decently, often not even enough to scrape by - but every little bit helps. These subsidies are often the last "firewall" between people and homelessness, starvation, and/or death.

The huge corporate welfare pigs (Oil, Big Ag, Finance, Defense, Pharma) get millions, sometimes billions, that are most definitely not a "firewall" keeping them from going out of business. It's just extra government pork gravy to them.

A lot of the people on this board are racists, misogynists, homophobes, religious zealots, etc. And a large number of them aim their hate at the specific demographic groups that are more likely to be destitute and relying upon government assistance. They would enjoy seeing this population starve and die, homeless in the streets. They use hateful urban legend/myths like the people on food stamps eating t-bone steaks all the time and the so-called welfare queens driving Cadillacs to help fuel their hate, even though they are fantasy.

I was on food stamps once, for a short time. It was only enough to buy oatmeal, peanut butter, rice, beans, mac & cheese, and once a week a can of salmon or tuna fish, if you were lucky. Not exactly eating high on the hog, like the corporate welfare queens do. More like leftover chitlins.
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The idea that we are being over populated and we need to stop is just creepy.
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We're overpopulated in the sense that there's more people than we can work to provide for. For instance, if we wanted to give a 1st world, middle class life to every person in this world, the 7 billion of them, we wouldn't have enough resources. And in the meantime the less developed, poorer and more ignorant peoples of this world keep breeding at high rates. We're not heading to any utopia following this path, we're heading for more conflict.
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Man you have really done some mental gymnastics to come up with that one.

Whew.

Maybe you should kill yourself and set the example, Mr. Eugenicist.
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Well I am setting the example, I am not having any children, in the mean time I see all kinds of darkies around here with 5 or 6 children each and then they claim they're poor and oppressed. Well, can't they keep their genitals in check?
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While you scold them, they end up with the kids and you don't. When you pay school taxes it goes to pay for their schooling.

They don't have to keep their genitals in check. They know you'll pay for the results. And I'll pay. The thing to do is to somehow cut them off. This will be hard on the kids, well lots of things are hard and how many future scientists and engineers were there anyway? I'd betcha zero.

It can be hard to impose the right incentives, but it must be done. I am interested in hearing of better solutions, as well as incentives are not corrupted. Still listening ...
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In regards to money, it should be created in the market where it originated.

Where in the history books did it say a king or government came up with the idea of money and that money was fiat or gold for that matter?

People in the market decided which medium of exchange to use and it evolved but gold and silver has been used the most.

Government should never be allowed to issue the currency. Thats where the problem starts.
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Does anyone here believe there are enough jobs for everybody, should the welfare recipients choose to work?
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To all the twits against welfare, I guarantee you that if you lose your job and your family is hungry, you WILL go on assistance if you can't find a job.

That is a FACT!
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And still be on it years later??? Or even a second generation on it?

What ever happened to people moving to find work as some of us and definitely our parents had to do?

No one is talking about social security or veterans benefits which are things people paid into. It's the 100% free deal that is bankrupting the country.

The only way I know to stop it is if we all sign up for everything we can get and I completely intend to do so. It's not right that some people be given free money taken from others.
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Have you actually seen how some of these people live on welfare?

It's no vacation, they just learn to live really cheaply.

It's the welfare laws that allow it, they just found a way to jump through loopholes.

Sound familiar?
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Yes, I have. Getting rent assistance from HUD after putting their car in their kids' name, they live better than I do! Eat out more often, have total free time and full medical coverage. Meanwhile some months I have to skip my more expensive prescriptions because I can't afford them while I pay taxes for these people who live better a better lifestyle than I can afford for myself.

And yes, some people live in squalor but I think it has more to do with how they manage the government aid and other factors such as where they live.
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And yes, some people cannot afford expensive prescriptions but I think it has more to do with how they manage thier money and other factors suach as where they live.

You are bitter at poor people simply because you want to live beyond your means
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OP parrots DNC bumper stickers, which are in turn based on baseless straw men and lies, and asks a "when did you stop beating your wife?" question.

1) Only statists support TARP and the various other producers-to-bankers-and-contributors scams. Tea Party and commie Occupy members both universally reject "Too big to fail" as a reason to steal our grand children's income to make sure Goldman Sachs execs can buy a 3rd bungalow in Morocco and Democrat Congressmen (cough Charles Rangle cough cough) can buy another rental property in the Bahamas.

2) Welfare for individuals is just fine, as long as it is charity. Stealing taxes from a working father who is supporting a daughter with cerebral palsy to give Obamaphones to a drug dealer whore with 8 kids by 8 different fathers is not charity. It's theft and slow-motion murder.

3) Fuck the state and the fascists in government and business who work together to destroy free-market capitalism in favor of crony corporatism which choose losers and winners according to personal enrichment and political advantage as made perfect and complete in the Obama Regime.

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Your premise is bullshit so your whole argument is flawed. Nobody wants to stop payments to the vets, the disabled, the old, or anyone else that we owe it to. The stimulus plan was Oblabla's idea. I don't know anyone that would have voted for that piece of shit. The government has no business supporting abnks and auto companies. That is why we have bankruptcy laws. All of those companies should have been sent through that process. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "TOO BIG TO FAIL". If, on the other hand, you are talking about tax breaks, we all take them, including you. Tax breaks just mean that the government steals a little less of what we earn.

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And still be on it years later??? Or even a second generation on it?

What ever happened to people moving to find work as some of us and definitely our parents had to do?

No one is talking about social security or veterans benefits which are things people paid into. It's the 100% free deal that is bankrupting the country.

The only way I know to stop it is if we all sign up for everything we can get and I completely intend to do so. It's not right that some people be given free money taken from others.
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Have you actually seen how some of these people live on welfare?

It's no vacation, they just learn to live really cheaply.

It's the welfare laws that allow it, they just found a way to jump through loopholes.

Sound familiar?
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Yes, I have. Getting rent assistance from HUD after putting their car in their kids' name, they live better than I do! Eat out more often, have total free time and full medical coverage. Meanwhile some months I have to skip my more expensive prescriptions because I can't afford them while I pay taxes for these people who live better a better lifestyle than I can afford for myself.

And yes, some people live in squalor but I think it has more to do with how they manage the government aid and other factors such as where they live.
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And yes, some people cannot afford expensive prescriptions but I think it has more to do with how they manage thier money and other factors suach as where they live.

You are bitter at poor people simply because you want to live beyond your means
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POP!
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I do have a problem with it. Corporations are people too my friend!
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The assistance I mostly despise is for the lazy ass mother fuckers who have an EBT card but got the newest air jordons on their feet. And before you shout racist, that also applies to the trailer trash hoe with 10 kids by 10 different men and no desire to get their fat ass off the couch to find a job.

Corporations do create jobs, right? WTF does a lazy fucking 7th grade education level welfare recipient create? More babies hardwired to be like they mommy!

Understand?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27301248


Innovation creates jobs. Corporations are in it for the money and will milk the public for every dollar it can while stifling innovation. They buy up innovative patents with their monopoly money and choke the life out of it for profit.

They prey on the the weak and needy at the bottom, to feed the oligarchy at the top. Wage slaves begging for work.

Of course, if you are employed by one of these monsters then you will grovel at their alter any day of the week.
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... the so-called welfare queens driving Cadillacs to help fuel their hate, even though they are fantasy.

I was on food stamps once, for a short time. It was only enough to buy oatmeal, peanut butter, rice, beans, mac & cheese, and once a week a can of salmon or tuna fish, if you were lucky. Not exactly eating high on the hog, like the corporate welfare queens do. More like leftover chitlins.
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It's usually the drug dealers in the same neighborhoods who are driving the Cadillacs, at least that's what I keep hearing. Don't mix up the ideas so that you can come up with something false, please.

I'm glad you were able to get food stamps. I've heard that in my county, it's quite hard if you're white, they will lose your application or something will happen.

Always question, before supporting a social program, whether you or your family could actually get it if you needed it. Charity for those in need is one thing. Transfer payments to those who've got the system working for them is quite another.
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A lot of you people here on GLP seem to think people on welfare(the vets, the disabled, the old, people who make under 20k) are the problem. But there is no outrage or anger for the companies who make billions yet find ways to stick their hands in the pot. When you come one here and make threads about people who receive "handouts" when most of them actually need all the help they can get but fail to mention companies who exploit gov assistants you look like a bunch of selective problem solving hypocrite. How can you sit behind your screen and bash these people yet turn the other way at the real problem. Its like the cop who would rather chase down someone peeing in an ally instead of the guy mugging down the street.

We need to do better.
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its the age ol' trickle up OR trickle down arguement.

time to break that silly 2 party paradigm!

SMASH IT knockout
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A lot of you people here on GLP seem to think people on welfare(the vets, the disabled, the old, people who make under 20k) are the problem. But there is no outrage or anger for the companies who make billions yet find ways to stick their hands in the pot. When you come one here and make threads about people who receive "handouts" when most of them actually need all the help they can get but fail to mention companies who exploit gov assistants you look like a bunch of selective problem solving hypocrite. How can you sit behind your screen and bash these people yet turn the other way at the real problem. Its like the cop who would rather chase down someone peeing in an ally instead of the guy mugging down the street.

We need to do better.
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good one I call this reverse socialism.
when base ball teams, football etc. expect tax payers to pay for stadiums so they can then make a profit off those same taxpayers.

reverse socialism
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The idea that we are being over populated and we need to stop is just creepy.
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We're overpopulated in the sense that there's more people than we can work to provide for. For instance, if we wanted to give a 1st world, middle class life to every person in this world, the 7 billion of them, we wouldn't have enough resources. And in the meantime the less developed, poorer and more ignorant peoples of this world keep breeding at high rates. We're not heading to any utopia following this path, we're heading for more conflict.
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Man you have really done some mental gymnastics to come up with that one.

Whew.

Maybe you should kill yourself and set the example, Mr. Eugenicist.
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Well I am setting the example, I am not having any children, in the mean time I see all kinds of darkies around here with 5 or 6 children each and then they claim they're poor and oppressed. Well, can't they keep their genitals in check?
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I am geting the impression your just uptight from not geting laid.
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We're overpopulated in the sense that there's more people than we can work to provide for. For instance, if we wanted to give a 1st world, middle class life to every person in this world, the 7 billion of them, we wouldn't have enough resources. And in the meantime the less developed, poorer and more ignorant peoples of this world keep breeding at high rates. We're not heading to any utopia following this path, we're heading for more conflict.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


Man you have really done some mental gymnastics to come up with that one.

Whew.

Maybe you should kill yourself and set the example, Mr. Eugenicist.
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Well I am setting the example, I am not having any children, in the mean time I see all kinds of darkies around here with 5 or 6 children each and then they claim they're poor and oppressed. Well, can't they keep their genitals in check?
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While you scold them, they end up with the kids and you don't. When you pay school taxes it goes to pay for their schooling.

They don't have to keep their genitals in check. They know you'll pay for the results. And I'll pay. The thing to do is to somehow cut them off. This will be hard on the kids, well lots of things are hard and how many future scientists and engineers were there anyway? I'd betcha zero.

It can be hard to impose the right incentives, but it must be done. I am interested in hearing of better solutions, as well as incentives are not corrupted. Still listening ...
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How can we cut them off if the majority of the people of the west are stupid enough to argue for this stupid system to go on? our folk have been brainwashed so thoroughly that they're commiting suicide, there's nothing I can do anymore. LEt them have what they want.
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Stockholm Syndrome

is when prisoners are beaten down to think their captors are 'good guys' for providing certain benefits despite also taking many freedoms.

Self defeating consciousness was never so easy to describe.

Maybe it is easier for most people to keep choosing slavery than admit they lived a lie their whole life?

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Corps actually employ people and actually contribute to this country. People sitting on their asses collecting welfare don't contribute shit. Kind of easy to understand unless you're a retard liberal.
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Man you have really done some mental gymnastics to come up with that one.

Whew.

Maybe you should kill yourself and set the example, Mr. Eugenicist.
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Well I am setting the example, I am not having any children, in the mean time I see all kinds of darkies around here with 5 or 6 children each and then they claim they're poor and oppressed. Well, can't they keep their genitals in check?
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren

While you scold them, they end up with the kids and you don't. When you pay school taxes it goes to pay for their schooling.

They don't have to keep their genitals in check. They know you'll pay for the results. And I'll pay. The thing to do is to somehow cut them off. This will be hard on the kids, well lots of things are hard and how many future scientists and engineers were there anyway? I'd betcha zero.

It can be hard to impose the right incentives, but it must be done. I am interested in hearing of better solutions, as well as incentives are not corrupted. Still listening ...
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How can we cut them off if the majority of the people of the west are stupid enough to argue for this stupid system to go on? our folk have been brainwashed so thoroughly that they're commiting suicide, there's nothing I can do anymore. LEt them have what they want.
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Let's pretend for a minute that you get your way.

What are you going to do with all those people on welfare?

They number at around 4 million on cash assistance and close to 47 million on food assistance.
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A lot of you people here on GLP seem to think people on welfare(the vets, the disabled, the old, people who make under 20k) are the problem. But there is no outrage or anger for the companies who make billions yet find ways to stick their hands in the pot. When you come one here and make threads about people who receive "handouts" when most of them actually need all the help they can get but fail to mention companies who exploit gov assistants you look like a bunch of selective problem solving hypocrite. How can you sit behind your screen and bash these people yet turn the other way at the real problem. Its like the cop who would rather chase down someone peeing in an ally instead of the guy mugging down the street.

We need to do better.
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OP it is not our issue if you and every one on welfare didnt save enough money for when they got old.. or do drugs and have kids and can't afford to take care of them stop ebing lazy get a job and work .. if not starve or freeze.. we are better off with out them!
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A lot of you people here on GLP seem to think people on welfare(the vets, the disabled, the old, people who make under 20k) are the problem. But there is no outrage or anger for the companies who make billions yet find ways to stick their hands in the pot. When you come one here and make threads about people who receive "handouts" when most of them actually need all the help they can get but fail to mention companies who exploit gov assistants you look like a bunch of selective problem solving hypocrite. How can you sit behind your screen and bash these people yet turn the other way at the real problem. Its like the cop who would rather chase down someone peeing in an ally instead of the guy mugging down the street.

We need to do better.
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OP it is not our issue if you and every one on welfare didnt save enough money for when they got old.. or do drugs and have kids and can't afford to take care of them stop ebing lazy get a job and work .. if not starve or freeze.. we are better off with out them!
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oo and lets not forget if you are white you are not able to get help.. you have to be any color BUT white..
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A lot of you people here on GLP seem to think people on welfare(the vets, the disabled, the old, people who make under 20k) are the problem. But there is no outrage or anger for the companies who make billions yet find ways to stick their hands in the pot. When you come one here and make threads about people who receive "handouts" when most of them actually need all the help they can get but fail to mention companies who exploit gov assistants you look like a bunch of selective problem solving hypocrite. How can you sit behind your screen and bash these people yet turn the other way at the real problem. Its like the cop who would rather chase down someone peeing in an ally instead of the guy mugging down the street.

We need to do better.
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OP it is not our issue if you and every one on welfare didnt save enough money for when they got old.. or do drugs and have kids and can't afford to take care of them stop ebing lazy get a job and work .. if not starve or freeze.. we are better off with out them!
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So you would propose letting 50 million people starve to death?

Are you going to help with the clean up?

Good luck with that.
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Bull Shit Strawman Argument !!!!! Most :Hard working Americans are tired of all the Blood Sucking Leeches . granny
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A lot of you people here on GLP seem to think people on welfare(the vets, the disabled, the old, people who make under 20k) are the problem. But there is no outrage or anger for the companies who make billions yet find ways to stick their hands in the pot. When you come one here and make threads about people who receive "handouts" when most of them actually need all the help they can get but fail to mention companies who exploit gov assistants you look like a bunch of selective problem solving hypocrite. How can you sit behind your screen and bash these people yet turn the other way at the real problem. Its like the cop who would rather chase down someone peeing in an ally instead of the guy mugging down the street.

We need to do better.
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OP it is not our issue if you and every one on welfare didnt save enough money for when they got old.. or do drugs and have kids and can't afford to take care of them stop ebing lazy get a job and work .. if not starve or freeze.. we are better off with out them!
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oo and lets not forget if you are white you are not able to get help.. you have to be any color BUT white..
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Completely untrue.
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Well I am setting the example, I am not having any children, in the mean time I see all kinds of darkies around here with 5 or 6 children each and then they claim they're poor and oppressed. Well, can't they keep their genitals in check?
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While you scold them, they end up with the kids and you don't. When you pay school taxes it goes to pay for their schooling.

They don't have to keep their genitals in check. They know you'll pay for the results. And I'll pay. The thing to do is to somehow cut them off. This will be hard on the kids, well lots of things are hard and how many future scientists and engineers were there anyway? I'd betcha zero.

It can be hard to impose the right incentives, but it must be done. I am interested in hearing of better solutions, as well as incentives are not corrupted. Still listening ...
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How can we cut them off if the majority of the people of the west are stupid enough to argue for this stupid system to go on? our folk have been brainwashed so thoroughly that they're commiting suicide, there's nothing I can do anymore. LEt them have what they want.
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Let's pretend for a minute that you get your way.

What are you going to do with all those people on welfare?

They number at around 4 million on cash assistance and close to 47 million on food assistance.
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there's nothing to do but to await for collapse and the ensuing wars that will come and decimate the population yet again.
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When food stamps were first expanded nationally in the 1970s, just 1 in 50 Americans participated; today the figure is almost 1 in 7. The program has doubled in size since 2008 and quadrupled since 2001.
Food stamps are one of nearly 80 means-tested federal welfare programs, including 17 for nutritional support. Collectively, these programs cost $700 billion annually, plus $200 billion in state contributions.
From 2001 to 2006 the food stamp budget doubled, even as unemployment remained around five percent.
Food stamps make up 80 percent of the current farm bill, costing $770 billion over the next 10 years.
Food stamp spending is projected to remain permanently and significantly above pre-recession levels.
Were food stamp spending returned to pre-recession (2007) levels, and increased at the rate of inflation, it would produce 10-year savings of $340 billion. The current farm bill calls for only $4 billion in savings.
The rapid increase in assistance is remarkably similar to the rapid decrease in the ratio of workers to Social Security/Medicare recipients, and it’s just as unsustainable. It’s also a demonstration of how absurd the program has become. We are the wealthiest nation on Earth, and yet 1 in 7 Americans have to get food assistance? More than 40% of us don’t pay federal income taxes, which means the burden of these costs fall on fewer and fewer Americans as well — about 4 in 7, if that. That kind of ratio will lead us to the same entitlement crunch we’re already barreling toward with Social Security and Medicare


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So we have $770 billion dollars in food stamp programs alone, that's upwards of a trillion dollars in that one program alone.

It's unsustainable. No way around that.

Recipients have DOUBLED in size since Obama took office.

Well, here we go for another 4 years. Will it double again?
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Corporate welfare = MANY, MANY trillions.
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Link??? I don't necessarily doubt it but would like to see it and know under what in the budget this is listed as there doesn't seem to be all that much unaccounted for.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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While you scold them, they end up with the kids and you don't. When you pay school taxes it goes to pay for their schooling.

They don't have to keep their genitals in check. They know you'll pay for the results. And I'll pay. The thing to do is to somehow cut them off. This will be hard on the kids, well lots of things are hard and how many future scientists and engineers were there anyway? I'd betcha zero.

It can be hard to impose the right incentives, but it must be done. I am interested in hearing of better solutions, as well as incentives are not corrupted. Still listening ...
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How can we cut them off if the majority of the people of the west are stupid enough to argue for this stupid system to go on? our folk have been brainwashed so thoroughly that they're commiting suicide, there's nothing I can do anymore. LEt them have what they want.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


Let's pretend for a minute that you get your way.

What are you going to do with all those people on welfare?

They number at around 4 million on cash assistance and close to 47 million on food assistance.
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there's nothing to do but to await for collapse and the ensuing wars that will come and decimate the population yet again.
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So, we should be encouraging them.

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