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Why do you have a problem with people receiving GOV assistants but not corporations?

 
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Link?? Seek and yee shall....

[link to www.newyorker.com]


[link to cnsnews.com]


[link to reason.com]

[link to online.wsj.com]

Google says there are 30,000,000 pages. Sorry none of them are the Heritage foundation, so you will still not belive
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I do not see TRILLIONS and TRILLIONS! The first one doesn't have it and the title to the second one is:

'Corporate Welfare' Costs Taxpayers Almost $100 Billion in FY 2012, Cato Report Finds



Do you not know the difference in a billion and a trillion???
 Quoting: Bluebird


You're making an ass out of yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27305279


Check out who you are talking to. I;m not the one who claimed trillions.

You're making a ass out of yourself
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putin

You people are extremely childish here.

Let the adults talk, k?
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This is a link to ALL the federal spending. Any money that goes to corporations or banks has to be included in it. It would be under Discretionary Spending in the Non-Defense part.

There is not enough money there for "Trillions and Trillions" to be going to any banks or corporations.

[link to www.cbo.gov]

People who believe in this kind of Fairy Tale thnking need to grow up and get real.

That's how we got in this mess in the first place, fools thinking the government can do it all and pay for it all.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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This is a link to ALL the federal spending. Any money that goes to corporations or banks has to be included in it. It would be under Discretionary Spending in the Non-Defense part.

There is not enough money there for "Trillions and Trillions" to be going to any banks or corporations.

[link to www.cbo.gov]

People who believe in this kind of Fairy Tale thnking need to grow up and get real.

That's how we got in this mess in the first place, fools thinking the government can do it all and pay for it all.
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Your shades are awful rosy.

I wish I could go back to living with my head in the sand.

Consider yourself lucky.
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And yes, some people cannot afford expensive prescriptions but I think it has more to do with how they manage thier money and other factors suach as where they live.

You are bitter at poor people simply because you want to live beyond your means
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POP!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27305279


Not at all. What I do NOT want is people being totally subsidized by the government living BETTER than I do while I have to work and pay taxes and they do not do either of those things.

I really want us ALL to play by the same rules as Obama says.
 Quoting: Bluebird


If they're living better than you, you're not doing very well at all.

It's not just cash and food they get.

I know people that pay 10 dollars a month for electricity and another 10 for gas...all year long for years. That's it. The only way to get on these programs is to be destitute and jobless. So, they make themselves destitute to get the benefits because working for minimum wage is almost impossible these days. They have a better, freer life on welfare. Not necessarily a better way of life.

On the side, they find other things to do such as fix cars or clean house for cash and don't pay any taxes to this crooked fucking government o spend on war and death.

I really don't see the problem here IF it's the collapse of this government that we are all seeking.
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Actually I don't either, as long as everyone including white people has equal access to these programs and benefits.

This is not the case according to much anecdotal evidence. We even had a thread about that once here on GLP and several people agreed. This has got to stop. The welfare lifestyle , such as it is, must be available for everybody or for nobody.
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Corporations aren't people? Most likely the reason why, but I'm with you on this one and see your point.

Corporate welfare, especially in the security/defense complex is rampantly corrupt, but they have the lobbyists and ordinary people do not. That's the only difference.
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corporations are owned by people so it makes no real difference.
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dancedancedancedancedancedancedancedancedancedance

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The government is a corporation

Corporations are the problem

Take fishing licenses. Why do individuals need fishing licenses and why can only certain fish and sizes be caught? The government/corporation doesn't own the fish.

The corporations with their big fishing nets are the problem and not the individual fisherman

Corporations are number one problem in this world
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Yes Government and Corporations come from the Philosophy of Collectivism.

Like Fascist Rome or Communism.


They will Crucify the Individual.
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Corporate welfare’s sole redeeming quality, to the extent it has any, is its relative size. Washington ladles out about $100 billion a year in handouts to the undeserving rich. That is a minute fraction of federal outlays for social welfare (Medicare alone will cost more than $670 billion this year). But it is still roughly $100 billion too much.

[link to reason.com]




None of those links provided says anything about any TRILLION dollars going to corporations.
 Quoting: Bluebird


I am not the person who claimed trillions. But I will provide this for you

[link to abcnews.go.com]

100 billion to the wealthy and 72 million to feed the poor.

If you're cool with that...
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Corporate welfare’s sole redeeming quality, to the extent it has any, is its relative size. Washington ladles out about $100 billion a year in handouts to the undeserving rich. That is a minute fraction of federal outlays for social welfare (Medicare alone will cost more than $670 billion this year). But it is still roughly $100 billion too much.

[link to reason.com]




None of those links provided says anything about any TRILLION dollars going to corporations.
 Quoting: Bluebird


I am not the person who claimed trillions. But I will provide this for you

[link to abcnews.go.com]

100 billion to the wealthy and 72 million to feed the poor.

If you're cool with that...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17549114


edit: 72 billion
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This is a link to ALL the federal spending. Any money that goes to corporations or banks has to be included in it. It would be under Discretionary Spending in the Non-Defense part.

There is not enough money there for "Trillions and Trillions" to be going to any banks or corporations.

[link to www.cbo.gov]

People who believe in this kind of Fairy Tale thinking need to grow up and get real.

That's how we got in this mess in the first place, fools thinking the government can do it all and pay for it all.
 Quoting: Bluebird


Government lies to the "People" on a daily basis. Corporations have a revolving door policy with government jobs. I.E. Senators/Representatives/lobbyists/etc.

Why on earth would you not thinks the stats you present are real when they are corporate generated?

Clearly, you are for Corporate welfare at the expense of the average citizen being fucked by it.

Oh well 1dunno1
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When food stamps were first expanded nationally in the 1970s, just 1 in 50 Americans participated; today the figure is almost 1 in 7. The program has doubled in size since 2008 and quadrupled since 2001.
Food stamps are one of nearly 80 means-tested federal welfare programs, including 17 for nutritional support. Collectively, these programs cost $700 billion annually, plus $200 billion in state contributions.
From 2001 to 2006 the food stamp budget doubled, even as unemployment remained around five percent.
Food stamps make up 80 percent of the current farm bill, costing $770 billion over the next 10 years.
Food stamp spending is projected to remain permanently and significantly above pre-recession levels.
Were food stamp spending returned to pre-recession (2007) levels, and increased at the rate of inflation, it would produce 10-year savings of $340 billion. The current farm bill calls for only $4 billion in savings.
The rapid increase in assistance is remarkably similar to the rapid decrease in the ratio of workers to Social Security/Medicare recipients, and it’s just as unsustainable. It’s also a demonstration of how absurd the program has become. We are the wealthiest nation on Earth, and yet 1 in 7 Americans have to get food assistance? More than 40% of us don’t pay federal income taxes, which means the burden of these costs fall on fewer and fewer Americans as well — about 4 in 7, if that. That kind of ratio will lead us to the same entitlement crunch we’re already barreling toward with Social Security and Medicare


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So we have $770 billion dollars in food stamp programs alone, that's upwards of a trillion dollars in that one program alone.

It's unsustainable. No way around that.

Recipients have DOUBLED in size since Obama took office.

Well, here we go for another 4 years. Will it double again?
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Corporate welfare = MANY, MANY trillions.
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Link??? I don't necessarily doubt it but would like to see it and know under what in the budget this is listed as there doesn't seem to be all that much unaccounted for.
 Quoting: Bluebird


Here is where Anonymous Coward 279 says TRILLIONS and TRILLIONS.

Sounds like something Carl Segan would have said.

It's not trillions but billions.

And I an not for any bailouts, not even the sacred auto one. I don't like corporate bailouts any more than personal ones.

They are both not the duty of the federal government.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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POP!
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Not at all. What I do NOT want is people being totally subsidized by the government living BETTER than I do while I have to work and pay taxes and they do not do either of those things.

I really want us ALL to play by the same rules as Obama says.
 Quoting: Bluebird


If they're living better than you, you're not doing very well at all.

It's not just cash and food they get.

I know people that pay 10 dollars a month for electricity and another 10 for gas...all year long for years. That's it. The only way to get on these programs is to be destitute and jobless. So, they make themselves destitute to get the benefits because working for minimum wage is almost impossible these days. They have a better, freer life on welfare. Not necessarily a better way of life.

On the side, they find other things to do such as fix cars or clean house for cash and don't pay any taxes to this crooked fucking government o spend on war and death.

I really don't see the problem here IF it's the collapse of this government that we are all seeking.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27305279


Actually I don't either, as long as everyone including white people has equal access to these programs and benefits.

This is not the case according to much anecdotal evidence. We even had a thread about that once here on GLP and several people agreed. This has got to stop. The welfare lifestyle , such as it is, must be available for everybody or for nobody.
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I don't know why people falsely claim that there aren't many white people on these programs.

The majority on welfare are white and non-urban.
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You have to just love these corporate sycophants that defend corporate control/fascism.

Too big to fail, private mercenary protected, slave-wage inducing entities funding the complete sell-out of government [Citizen United].

It is a fascist sell-out and people like this poster, will do anything to spin reality.
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Why do you include my name in your post?

I do NOT support corporate welfare or bailouts at all!

I am opposed to ANY government bailouts of anybody or anything. It's not their job.

But LYING and saying the government spends more on corporate welfare than it does entitlement programs is why people think it's OK to get all their free stuff.

It's a cheap trick used to justify bilking the system!

One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy
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Corporate welfare’s sole redeeming quality, to the extent it has any, is its relative size. Washington ladles out about $100 billion a year in handouts to the undeserving rich. That is a minute fraction of federal outlays for social welfare (Medicare alone will cost more than $670 billion this year). But it is still roughly $100 billion too much.

[link to reason.com]




None of those links provided says anything about any TRILLION dollars going to corporations.
 Quoting: Bluebird


I am not the person who claimed trillions. But I will provide this for you

[link to abcnews.go.com]

100 billion to the wealthy and 72 million to feed the poor.

If you're cool with that...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17549114


[link to www.economonitor.com]
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Corporate welfare’s sole redeeming quality, to the extent it has any, is its relative size. Washington ladles out about $100 billion a year in handouts to the undeserving rich. That is a minute fraction of federal outlays for social welfare (Medicare alone will cost more than $670 billion this year). But it is still roughly $100 billion too much.

[link to reason.com]




None of those links provided says anything about any TRILLION dollars going to corporations.
 Quoting: Bluebird


I am not the person who claimed trillions. But I will provide this for you

[link to abcnews.go.com]

100 billion to the wealthy and 72 million to feed the poor.

If you're cool with that...
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[link to www.google.com (secure)]
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I do not see TRILLIONS and TRILLIONS! The first one doesn't have it and the title to the second one is:

'Corporate Welfare' Costs Taxpayers Almost $100 Billion in FY 2012, Cato Report Finds



Do you not know the difference in a billion and a trillion???
 Quoting: Bluebird


You're making an ass out of yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27305279


Check out who you are talking to. I;m not the one who claimed trillions.

You're making a ass out of yourself
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17549114


putin

You people are extremely childish here.

Let the adults talk, k?
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Did you just use "k"?scream
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You have to just love these corporate sycophants that defend corporate control/fascism.

Too big to fail, private mercenary protected, slave-wage inducing entities funding the complete sell-out of government [Citizen United].

It is a fascist sell-out and people like this poster, will do anything to spin reality.
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Why do you include my name in your post?

I do NOT support corporate welfare or bailouts at all!

I am opposed to ANY government bailouts of anybody or anything. It's not their job.

But LYING and saying the government spends more on corporate welfare than it does entitlement programs is why people think it's OK to get all their free stuff.

It's a cheap trick used to justify bilking the system!

 Quoting: Bluebird


[link to www.economonitor.com]

I'll await your response.
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You're making an ass out of yourself.
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Check out who you are talking to. I;m not the one who claimed trillions.

You're making a ass out of yourself
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17549114


putin

You people are extremely childish here.

Let the adults talk, k?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27305279


Did you just use "k"?scream
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17549114


I'm sorry, I tend to get that "tone" around children.

I'm sure you're at least 15.

My bad.
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That's "government assistance." An Assistant is a helper, assistance is delivered, it is not a person.
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"Two systems are before the world.... One looks to pauperism, ignorance, depopulation, and barbarism; the other to increasing wealth, comfort, intelligence, combination of action, and civilization. One looks towards universal war; the other towards universal peace. One is the English system; the other ... the American system, for ... elevating while equalizing the condition of man throughout the world."
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Corporate welfare’s sole redeeming quality, to the extent it has any, is its relative size. Washington ladles out about $100 billion a year in handouts to the undeserving rich. That is a minute fraction of federal outlays for social welfare (Medicare alone will cost more than $670 billion this year). But it is still roughly $100 billion too much.

[link to reason.com]




None of those links provided says anything about any TRILLION dollars going to corporations.
 Quoting: Bluebird


I am not the person who claimed trillions. But I will provide this for you

[link to abcnews.go.com]

100 billion to the wealthy and 72 million to feed the poor.

If you're cool with that...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17549114


edit: 72 billion
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17549114


Yes, that seems like a very REAL figure. That is for one program, just food stamps.

But I am tired of people trying to pretend the government spends MORE money on corporations so I'm just getting my fair share to justify a lifestyle of complete irresponsibility. Note no where do I say veterans, social security, and so forth. Those are things people paid or gave into. It's the 100% freebies I oppose.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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Corporate welfare’s sole redeeming quality, to the extent it has any, is its relative size. Washington ladles out about $100 billion a year in handouts to the undeserving rich. That is a minute fraction of federal outlays for social welfare (Medicare alone will cost more than $670 billion this year). But it is still roughly $100 billion too much.

[link to reason.com]




None of those links provided says anything about any TRILLION dollars going to corporations.
 Quoting: Bluebird


I am not the person who claimed trillions. But I will provide this for you

[link to abcnews.go.com]

100 billion to the wealthy and 72 million to feed the poor.

If you're cool with that...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17549114


edit: 72 billion
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17549114


Yes, that seems like a very REAL figure. That is for one program, just food stamps.

But I am tired of people trying to pretend the government spends MORE money on corporations so I'm just getting my fair share to justify a lifestyle of complete irresponsibility. Note no where do I say veterans, social security, and so forth. Those are things people paid or gave into. It's the 100% freebies I oppose.
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Why is it always the ones with the insane amounts of green karma that are the most ignorant and fast asleep people on this site?

It's like some sick circle jerk of support and reconditioning the sheep give to each other.

I don't get it.
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You have to just love these corporate sycophants that defend corporate control/fascism.

Too big to fail, private mercenary protected, slave-wage inducing entities funding the complete sell-out of government [Citizen United].

It is a fascist sell-out and people like this poster, will do anything to spin reality.
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Why do you include my name in your post?

I do NOT support corporate welfare or bailouts at all!

I am opposed to ANY government bailouts of anybody or anything. It's not their job.

But LYING and saying the government spends more on corporate welfare than it does entitlement programs is why people think it's OK to get all their free stuff.

It's a cheap trick used to justify bilking the system!

 Quoting: Bluebird


[link to www.economonitor.com]

I'll await your response.
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Why are you awaiting my response?

It says:

Most recently, Bloomberg provided an in-depth analysis of Fed lending to the biggest banks, reporting a sum of $7.77 trillion. On December 8, Bernanke struck back with a highly misleading and factually incorrect memo countering Bloomberg’s report.


You do know that the Federal Reserve is a panel or whatever you would call it, of PRIVATE BANKS. It is NOT the federal government. It is PRIVATE MONEY, not our taxes.

Obviously I am dealing with a child here and wasting my time.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy
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You have to just love these corporate sycophants that defend corporate control/fascism.

Too big to fail, private mercenary protected, slave-wage inducing entities funding the complete sell-out of government [Citizen United].

It is a fascist sell-out and people like this poster, will do anything to spin reality.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24950699


Why do you include my name in your post?

I do NOT support corporate welfare or bailouts at all!

I am opposed to ANY government bailouts of anybody or anything. It's not their job.

But LYING and saying the government spends more on corporate welfare than it does entitlement programs is why people think it's OK to get all their free stuff.

It's a cheap trick used to justify bilking the system!

 Quoting: Bluebird


[link to www.economonitor.com]

I'll await your response.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27305279


Why are you awaiting my response?

It says:

Most recently, Bloomberg provided an in-depth analysis of Fed lending to the biggest banks, reporting a sum of $7.77 trillion. On December 8, Bernanke struck back with a highly misleading and factually incorrect memo countering Bloomberg’s report.


You do know that the Federal Reserve is a panel or whatever you would call it, of PRIVATE BANKS. It is NOT the federal government. It is PRIVATE MONEY, not our taxes.

Obviously I am dealing with a child here and wasting my time.
 Quoting: Bluebird


You completely missed the entire point of that article.

How in the hell did your eyes gloss over the 29 TRILLION dollar FACTS?

And I'm the child?

There's something wrong with you.
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You have to just love these corporate sycophants that defend corporate control/fascism.

Too big to fail, private mercenary protected, slave-wage inducing entities funding the complete sell-out of government [Citizen United].

It is a fascist sell-out and people like this poster, will do anything to spin reality.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24950699


Why do you include my name in your post?

I do NOT support corporate welfare or bailouts at all!

I am opposed to ANY government bailouts of anybody or anything. It's not their job.

But LYING and saying the government spends more on corporate welfare than it does entitlement programs is why people think it's OK to get all their free stuff.

It's a cheap trick used to justify bilking the system!

 Quoting: Bluebird


[link to www.economonitor.com]

I'll await your response.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27305279


Why are you awaiting my response?

It says:

Most recently, Bloomberg provided an in-depth analysis of Fed lending to the biggest banks, reporting a sum of $7.77 trillion. On December 8, Bernanke struck back with a highly misleading and factually incorrect memo countering Bloomberg’s report.


You do know that the Federal Reserve is a panel or whatever you would call it, of PRIVATE BANKS. It is NOT the federal government. It is PRIVATE MONEY, not our taxes.

Obviously I am dealing with a child here and wasting my time.
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It's called a consortium, child.
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Corporate welfare’s sole redeeming quality, to the extent it has any, is its relative size. Washington ladles out about $100 billion a year in handouts to the undeserving rich. That is a minute fraction of federal outlays for social welfare (Medicare alone will cost more than $670 billion this year). But it is still roughly $100 billion too much.

[link to reason.com]




None of those links provided says anything about any TRILLION dollars going to corporations.
 Quoting: Bluebird


I am not the person who claimed trillions. But I will provide this for you

[link to abcnews.go.com]

100 billion to the wealthy and 72 million to feed the poor.

If you're cool with that...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17549114


[link to www.google.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27305279


My link showed a 100 billion yearly for corporate subsidies.
That bailout money is just just one ugly beast.

And these fools think Obamaphone lady has that money.
I asked her, she said, Negro, I gotz 6 dollars, and cold 40 of Colt 45 malt liquuuor and like ahhh, 64 in fooood stamps.
She aint got it.
I have stated this many times on this forum and I will now do so again. Ask any hustler, running a shell game on the street corner who his biggest mark is. Well dressed, seemingly educated white people. Why is that? Because they think they are to smart to be fooled.
These people are losing at the shell game of life run by the Fed.
We are fucked simply because to many people simply have no common sense.
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there's nothing to do but to await for collapse and the ensuing wars that will come and decimate the population yet again.
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So, we should be encouraging them.

chuckle
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Encouraging them for what? There's no way out of the mess we got into, now there's just too many people who think society owes them something and we have a system based on debt money which is waiting to collapse. When it does all the leeches won't be provided for and somehow they will have to be got rid of. The way this happened all throughout history is that nations descend into totalitarianism and the very governments people voted into more power to "protect them" will end up committing genocide against them.
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The people who think society, or more accurately, the government owes them something is a very small part of the whole equation. I'm guessing not even on the radar compared to the other things you spoke of such as the fiat money system. We're talking about 50 million people and around 780 billion a year.

They are a drop in the bucket when placed aside the real reasons why it is all collapsing.

It doesn't matter what they do, the collapse is coming anyway because that's the plan.

To absolutely destroy America.
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Yeah in the grander scale of things they might be minor but the truth is that right now the system has changed so much that even if we suddenly "made things right" it would still be almost impossible to accommodate everyone so they'd be pleased. Many people think, oh if we just used all that money for the wars and corporate bail outs for the people everything'd be fixed, WRONG! it wouldn't be fixed because right now America is living off a bubble of debt money which if corrected would show the reality which is that America doesn't really produce enough to have all their citizens live the way they believe they are entitled to live. ANd this happened precisely because people feel entitled to things that actually need to be produced so they can be enjoyed and they AREN'T being produced anymore.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

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A lot of you people here on GLP seem to think people on welfare(the vets, the disabled, the old, people who make under 20k) are the problem. But there is no outrage or anger for the companies who make billions yet find ways to stick their hands in the pot. When you come one here and make threads about people who receive "handouts" when most of them actually need all the help they can get but fail to mention companies who exploit gov assistants you look like a bunch of selective problem solving hypocrite. How can you sit behind your screen and bash these people yet turn the other way at the real problem. Its like the cop who would rather chase down someone peeing in an ally instead of the guy mugging down the street.

We need to do better.
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It makes them feel better when they receive their social security check and Medicare funding.
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The problem is both sides are sniffing the others dirty underwear instead of taking off their own and attending to the bushiness of cleaning. There are excesses and indiscretions on both sides no?


A lot of you people here on GLP seem to think people on welfare(the vets, the disabled, the old, people who make under 20k) are the problem.
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Really? Like who? And where?

And it's not just corporations that are the problem. It's the BANKS.

It's obvious as fuck you're a Democrat, since you are spewing the same, idiotic talking points about corporate welfare being the problem and avoiding to talk about THE BANKS.

So stop posting on the internet please. And yes, too much unregulated welfare hurts the poor as well.
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Check out who you are talking to. I;m not the one who claimed trillions.

You're making a ass out of yourself
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putin

You people are extremely childish here.

Let the adults talk, k?
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Did you just use "k"?scream
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I'm sorry, I tend to get that "tone" around children.

I'm sure you're at least 15.

My bad.
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All good
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Corporate welfare’s sole redeeming quality, to the extent it has any, is its relative size. Washington ladles out about $100 billion a year in handouts to the undeserving rich. That is a minute fraction of federal outlays for social welfare (Medicare alone will cost more than $670 billion this year). But it is still roughly $100 billion too much.

[link to reason.com]




None of those links provided says anything about any TRILLION dollars going to corporations.
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I am not the person who claimed trillions. But I will provide this for you

[link to abcnews.go.com]

100 billion to the wealthy and 72 million to feed the poor.

If you're cool with that...
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[link to www.google.com (secure)]
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My link showed a 100 billion yearly for corporate subsidies.
That bailout money is just just one ugly beast.

And these fools think Obamaphone lady has that money.
I asked her, she said, Negro, I gotz 6 dollars, and cold 40 of Colt 45 malt liquuuor and like ahhh, 64 in fooood stamps.
She aint got it.
I have stated this many times on this forum and I will now do so again. Ask any hustler, running a shell game on the street corner who his biggest mark is. Well dressed, seemingly educated white people. Why is that? Because they think they are to smart to be fooled.
These people are losing at the shell game of life run by the Fed.
We are fucked simply because to many people simply have no common sense.
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The best slaves are the those who think they're free.

Nice dude. thumbs
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Why do you assume that I don't have a problem with people receiving Government assistance? It's both redistribution. Why are you a dumb shill?