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Why do you have a problem with people receiving GOV assistants but not corporations?

 
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If we could just go with a flat tax for people and corporations. Then it would be fair to everyone.

The bailouts should have gone to the people.
I wrote many letters to congress suggesting they give every natural born citizen $15,000 for an American made car. And every natural born citizen $100,000 to buy a house, start a business or pay down their mortgages.

Then everyone gets bailed out mainly the people who will be paying for the bailouts.

Of course no one listened
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It's just a huge leap for me to see how the Federal Reserve doing bailouts justifies Obama using TAX money to buy himself votes and donors.

And apparently enough to win an election.

I personally oppose both kinds of bailouts but the tax funded are the most direct and what will bankrupt the government faster.
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Since when did we not have problems with bailouts you dumb fuck? Don't put words in someones mouth ever again.

Your argument is wickedly low standard. Learn logic thinking, if at all possible.
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and, concurrently, why do american nazis - military-americans being the most notable among them - love it when human beings - primarily women and children in the middle east and north africa - are being killed by this government under us military control and hate it when they're not.
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A lot of you people here on GLP seem to think people on welfare(the vets, the disabled, the old, people who make under 20k) are the problem. But there is no outrage or anger for the companies who make billions yet find ways to stick their hands in the pot. When you come one here and make threads about people who receive "handouts" when most of them actually need all the help they can get but fail to mention companies who exploit gov assistants you look like a bunch of selective problem solving hypocrite. How can you sit behind your screen and bash these people yet turn the other way at the real problem. Its like the cop who would rather chase down someone peeing in an ally instead of the guy mugging down the street.

We need to do better.
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You have no idea what you're talking about....... Conservatives are against government handouts to everyone including corporations. Period............true conservative wants a corporation to file for bankruptcy and go under if they fail


If your company doesn't know how to run itself properly and make a profit then you don't deserve to be in business
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Ive never been hired by a poor person. Those corps give us (at least the ones that want them) jobs. If I need to spell out how important jobs are then there is no point.
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A lot of you people here on GLP seem to think people on welfare(the vets, the disabled, the old, people who make under 20k) are the problem. But there is no outrage or anger for the companies who make billions yet find ways to stick their hands in the pot. When you come one here and make threads about people who receive "handouts" when most of them actually need all the help they can get but fail to mention companies who exploit gov assistants you look like a bunch of selective problem solving hypocrite. How can you sit behind your screen and bash these people yet turn the other way at the real problem. Its like the cop who would rather chase down someone peeing in an ally instead of the guy mugging down the street.

We need to do better.
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Totally with you. And..people need to wake up and see all the tax breaks corporations get while they contemplate taking our nortgage interest deduction from us.
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Why do you include my name in your post?

I do NOT support corporate welfare or bailouts at all!

I am opposed to ANY government bailouts of anybody or anything. It's not their job.

But LYING and saying the government spends more on corporate welfare than it does entitlement programs is why people think it's OK to get all their free stuff.

It's a cheap trick used to justify bilking the system!

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[link to www.economonitor.com]

I'll await your response.
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Why are you awaiting my response?

It says:

Most recently, Bloomberg provided an in-depth analysis of Fed lending to the biggest banks, reporting a sum of $7.77 trillion. On December 8, Bernanke struck back with a highly misleading and factually incorrect memo countering Bloomberg’s report.


You do know that the Federal Reserve is a panel or whatever you would call it, of PRIVATE BANKS. It is NOT the federal government. It is PRIVATE MONEY, not our taxes.

Obviously I am dealing with a child here and wasting my time.
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You obviously do not understand how the fed works. It is a private bank, but it has been given unlimited power to mint our money. It is unconstitutional, but it is still happening. It is our money! This private bank is minting US currency, and lending it back to us. Yes they are charging us interest on our own money. Then they print up as much money as they want for their bail-outs. This basically makes all dollars worth less. So every time you hear that the fed is bailing someone out, even though our taxes are not be used, it is costing us because our dollars are losing value when the mint more money for these projects that we have nothing to do with. Liberal economics are hocus pocus!
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Since 1913, starting with the very first dollar the fed printed with debt attached, we have now gotten to 16trillion.

It's really simple but some people can not grasp it because there is just too many zeros.

Say there is only 5 dollars in the whole world. A measly five bucks. I borrow that from the Fed and they say I owe them 5.50 back, I will never pay them back. Why? Because there is only 5 dollars in the world. Game Over since 1913

We are in 16 trillion to a shell game
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A lot of you people here on GLP seem to think people on welfare(the vets, the disabled, the old, people who make under 20k) are the problem. But there is no outrage or anger for the companies who make billions yet find ways to stick their hands in the pot. When you come one here and make threads about people who receive "handouts" when most of them actually need all the help they can get but fail to mention companies who exploit gov assistants you look like a bunch of selective problem solving hypocrite. How can you sit behind your screen and bash these people yet turn the other way at the real problem. Its like the cop who would rather chase down someone peeing in an ally instead of the guy mugging down the street.

We need to do better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4496880


You have no idea what you're talking about....... Conservatives are against government handouts to everyone including corporations. Period............true conservative wants a corporation to file for bankruptcy and go under if they fail


If your company doesn't know how to run itself properly and make a profit then you don't deserve to be in business
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Wow. In the 112th congress, farm subsudies(welfare)
Democrats about 490,000
Your beloved Republicans. over 5 fucking million.
There are many, many more cases. This is just one example.

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

I do hope you become a more informed voter.
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The corporations are fucking the people by taking tax refunds, not money they already earned.

[link to www.cbsnews.com]


JP Morgan likes food stamps because they run the majority of the US foodstamp program

[link to www.fns.usda.gov]

The FED (federal reserve) has been fucking us since 1913. Their charter is indefinate. The dollar will soon be worth nothing. China has been stockpiling gold and will make their move soon. The only reason that they haven't is that they own too many dollars. Last year they stated that they would lower that ammount by a third.

The morons that think that Romney would have made things better have their heads up their asses. Ron Paul would be the only one that would have had a chance at that through responsible monetary policy. TS will HTF very soon reguardless of the puppet in chief. And so it goes.


With love.


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A lot of you people here on GLP seem to think people on welfare(the vets, the disabled, the old, people who make under 20k) are the problem. But there is no outrage or anger for the companies who make billions yet find ways to stick their hands in the pot. When you come one here and make threads about people who receive "handouts" when most of them actually need all the help they can get but fail to mention companies who exploit gov assistants you look like a bunch of selective problem solving hypocrite. How can you sit behind your screen and bash these people yet turn the other way at the real problem. Its like the cop who would rather chase down someone peeing in an ally instead of the guy mugging down the street.

We need to do better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4496880


You have no idea what you're talking about....... Conservatives are against government handouts to everyone including corporations. Period............true conservative wants a corporation to file for bankruptcy and go under if they fail


If your company doesn't know how to run itself properly and make a profit then you don't deserve to be in business
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Wow. In the 112th congress, farm subsudies(welfare)
Democrats about 490,000
Your beloved Republicans. over 5 fucking million.
There are many, many more cases. This is just one example.

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

I do hope you become a more informed voter.
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Very few Democrats in congress are farmers. But they had two years with control of both the House and Senate to correct anything they deemed excessive such as these subsidies. Apparently they were fine with them.

Depends on whose ox is being gored if it's a scandal or not.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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A lot of you people here on GLP seem to think people on welfare(the vets, the disabled, the old, people who make under 20k) are the problem. But there is no outrage or anger for the companies who make billions yet find ways to stick their hands in the pot. When you come one here and make threads about people who receive "handouts" when most of them actually need all the help they can get but fail to mention companies who exploit gov assistants you look like a bunch of selective problem solving hypocrite. How can you sit behind your screen and bash these people yet turn the other way at the real problem. Its like the cop who would rather chase down someone peeing in an ally instead of the guy mugging down the street.

We need to do better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4496880


You have no idea what you're talking about....... Conservatives are against government handouts to everyone including corporations. Period............true conservative wants a corporation to file for bankruptcy and go under if they fail


If your company doesn't know how to run itself properly and make a profit then you don't deserve to be in business
 Quoting: Simple_Man


Wow. In the 112th congress, farm subsudies(welfare)
Democrats about 490,000
Your beloved Republicans. over 5 fucking million.
There are many, many more cases. This is just one example.

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

I do hope you become a more informed voter.
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once again I have to explain things to people like I'm talking to a child

the headline question wasn't ....why are elected republicans asking for government handouts when they say they are against them


The question was ...." Why are you(me)

I'm a conservative and I was telling you why true conservatives are against handouts to individuals and corporations

If a politician claims to be conservative yet he asks the goverment to bailout a big corporation in his home state then he isn't truly a conservative

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"The Federal Reserve is an agency of U.S. Government created by Congress in 1913. The member banks under Federal Reserve are actually private corporations and all the stocks of Federal Reserve are owned by member banks. Federal reserve notes are in theory backed by the assets of the Federal Reserve, but primarily by the power of Congress to lay taxes on people. See excerpts of interview with Mr. Ron Supinski of the Public Information Department of the San Francisco, Federal Reserve Bank on October 8, 1992. [1]"

[link to www.sourcewatch.org]

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People don't complain too much about it because the amounts are so massive they cannot comprehend it. It causes cranial reboot and then they go onto something else.

Corporate welfare is also disguised. They call it "bailouts" or "job saving initiatives" or "tax incentives" or "cultural investments". In reality its taking from the productive to pump up the unproductive.

The drone factories (public school system) teaches the drones that this is OK. They can't relate to it so they never really think about it.

However, on a personal level, the drones can understand when someone is raping the system for $400 or $500 a month while they work under the table.

"It must be nice..." or "I shoudl just quite and go on welfare..." are the comments because they understand it.

They don't understand the Solyndra bankruptcy and all that profited from that and the battery company that developed hi-cap batteries, went broke and now is selling the technology to China.

The fact is, our population has always been mostly drones. There are only a few of us that think about anything more than our next meal, our next sex or our next ballgame.

...very few of us.

We are the 3% and on 1% of the 3% rule the earth because about 1% of the 3% are psychopaths that don't care about anyone in the world except them.

The other 99% of the 3% have compassion and we don't feel its right to continually rob the earth (and the drones).

The makeup of society is becoming more and more settled into this trend.

97% Drones
2.9% Thinking, hardworking people (like most of you)
.1% Psychopathic Elite

If you thought all this control was about something more honorable or complex than cash, you would be wrong. They don't care about your safety, your survival or your health. They care about the labor you produce (and its subsequent conversion to fiat currency) and then they figure out a way to get it to themselves. Call it "laundering" if you want. They need your approval and they do it by calling it the aformentioned code words.

Even "assistance" is code. Its "booty" or "stolen goods" or "fencing". They steal your property (the fruits of your labor) via the code word called "taxes" then they launder it through Solyndra schemes and then they spend it.

Anybody that is surprised by this and doesn't believe it is a drone.
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...oh, and by the way, if they don't get your approval in some way, there is a thing called Agenda 21 thats coming.

For those that don't understand or know about Agenda 21, I recommend "The Hunger Games" series of books by Suzanne Collins. Agenda 21, plain and simple. The movie doesn't really get into it as much as the books.

The Hunger Games is where we are headed when we wake up, or should I say, if we don't wake up soon enough.
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The Hunger Games (books, I never watch the movies and am always disappointed if I do) are already here.

We don't have tracker-jacker venom, but we do have protein uptake regulator drugs that can be used effectively to create some memories and wipe out others. Just one example.

I read those books and said "yes this is the truth NOW."
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You are correct. It is the truth but its just not to that level yet. The Hunger Games took place about 75 years after the marxist/socialists/NWO won. I'd say the war has not been waged yet and the outcome is not certain.

The whole idea is to get as many people on the welfare roles as possible and turn the entire country into an unthinking army of drones, slaving away and fighting for scraps tossed out the the giverment. In every case that I've asked people why they voted for The Kenyan, I get an answer that is summarized into: handouts. Regardless, its always handouts.

He was raised on handouts. He was given preferencial treatment in college because he couldn't pass and so they passed him anyway.

Fact: if a college flunky that went to college on foreign aid can be president, who would want to be president?
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Yes, I have read "It Came From Jekyll Island" and have some idea of what the Federal Reserve does.

No one knows exactly what they do as they have managed to resist congressional oversight. There was a movement a while back for congress to audit the fed, think Ron Paul was advocating that but I don't think it went very far.

With their QE2 (Quantum easing) flooding the market with dollars it does control inflation. Or deflation.

But they do claim to have other sources of income other than printing our currency and to conduct regular banking activities. At least that is how it's supposed to be. And their money is kept separate from our taxes.

All of which doesn't have much to do with the question posed by this thread.

I can only speak for myself and I do have a problem with corporations or banks receiving government bailouts.

But the majority of the federal budget of this country of monies collected from income taxes goes for entitlement programs to individuals.

The Congressio9nal Budget Office that is supposed to be non-partisan is the institution that promulgated that information, not me.
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Yes, I have read "It Came From Jekyll Island" and have some idea of what the Federal Reserve does.

No one knows exactly what they do as they have managed to resist congressional oversight. There was a movement a while back for congress to audit the fed, think Ron Paul was advocating that but I don't think it went very far.

With their QE2 (Quantum easing) flooding the market with dollars it does control inflation. Or deflation.

But they do claim to have other sources of income other than printing our currency and to conduct regular banking activities. At least that is how it's supposed to be. And their money is kept separate from our taxes.

All of which doesn't have much to do with the question posed by this thread.

I can only speak for myself and I do have a problem with corporations or banks receiving government bailouts.

But the majority of the federal budget of this country of monies collected from income taxes goes for entitlement programs to individuals.

The Congressio9nal Budget Office that is supposed to be non-partisan is the institution that promulgated that information, not me.
 Quoting: Bluebird

The main question posed in this thread was why would one have a problem with entitlement and not corporate welfare. Apparently you do have a problem with both, just more so for private citizens though.

I find your arguments valid based upon your links. But I think the links misleading because I do not trust government to tell the truth. Scratch that, I do not trust the people that currently hold government positions to tell the truth. I believe this to be proven fact on both sides of the aisle.

I would argue that the FED is the Mother of all corporations and all others under their umbrella. I think entitlement programs pale in comparison to the tax payer dollars taken in by the military industrial complex, banking elite, petrol-energy cartels and the like that have taken the American public for trillions of tax-payer dollars and lol while framing the argument that it is welfare cheats that are the demons.

Of course,...this is just imo.

Z

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A lot of you people here on GLP seem to think people on welfare(the vets, the disabled, the old, people who make under 20k) are the problem. But there is no outrage or anger for the companies who make billions yet find ways to stick their hands in the pot. When you come one here and make threads about people who receive "handouts" when most of them actually need all the help they can get but fail to mention companies who exploit gov assistants you look like a bunch of selective problem solving hypocrite. How can you sit behind your screen and bash these people yet turn the other way at the real problem. Its like the cop who would rather chase down someone peeing in an ally instead of the guy mugging down the street.

We need to do better.
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Nobody, I repeat nobody has a problem with vets, truly disabled,old or truly poor recieving help,benifits,assistance from the federal government, nobody, not a single sane person in the US has a problem with that, and YOU know it. You know excaly who they have a problem with, everyone that does no fall in the above catagories and uses and abuses the system.

Can you please name the corporations that recieve subsidies and how much?

and yes certain corporate welfare enrages me more.
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^^^This^^^

And of course there has been plenty of outrage at corporate welfare as well.

Here's a link to a thread I made about all the green energy companies Obama has thrown money away to that have gone bankrupt.


Thread: Obama’s Taxpayer-Backed Green Energy Failures


So this is an invalid argument that people here only object to welfare for individuals.

I think everybody here knows this and this is a totally fake contention.

:strawmanny:
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Exactly, the Corporations and the 1% put untold billions into the races around the country and got ZERO percent return on their money ha. Actually its worse, they got exposed, lost a generation of Hispanics, Blacks, LGBT, Youth AND Womens vote too.

Hate is no longer a winning strategy in American politics...Thank God
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Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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The news shows fat black women with 6 hungry kids as the face of welfare and working people who can't afford 6 kids don't like it.
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The news shows fat black women with 6 hungry kids as the face of welfare and working people who can't afford 6 kids don't like it.
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A lot of you people here on GLP seem to think people on welfare(the vets, the disabled, the old, people who make under 20k) are the problem. But there is no outrage or anger for the companies who make billions yet find ways to stick their hands in the pot. When you come one here and make threads about people who receive "handouts" when most of them actually need all the help they can get but fail to mention companies who exploit gov assistants you look like a bunch of selective problem solving hypocrite. How can you sit behind your screen and bash these people yet turn the other way at the real problem. Its like the cop who would rather chase down someone peeing in an ally instead of the guy mugging down the street.

We need to do better.
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Right on! I am adapting a liberal point of view. I am switching parties and gonna play the democrat game.

Everyone should get their fair share.

After slaving for 25 years, I am going to apply for every handout I possibly can get. I'll quit working if I have to.

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A lot of you people here on GLP seem to think people on welfare(the vets, the disabled, the old, people who make under 20k) are the problem. But there is no outrage or anger for the companies who make billions yet find ways to stick their hands in the pot. When you come one here and make threads about people who receive "handouts" when most of them actually need all the help they can get but fail to mention companies who exploit gov assistants you look like a bunch of selective problem solving hypocrite. How can you sit behind your screen and bash these people yet turn the other way at the real problem. Its like the cop who would rather chase down someone peeing in an ally instead of the guy mugging down the street.

We need to do better.
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i think you mean assistance
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^^^^^
This
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90% of all stock in corporations owned by 10% of Americans. So corporate welfare increases profits and stock value and dividends - and that money goes right to the top. Also they pay low capital gains and dividend taxes on their stock sales and dividends. More money to the top. If you factor in the imperialist wars which resulted in tremendous corporate profits for military corps and oil companies and companies like Halburton, you get the idea that the US government has spent TRILLIONS which has been transferred from the people (via the deficit) right to the top.

The whole argument about welfare and medicare and medicaid is made because who else is going to pay for all the theft that is now the deficit? They have to create a villain and a false cause - otherwise the focus would be on them.
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90% of all stock in corporations owned by 10% of Americans. So corporate welfare increases profits and stock value and dividends - and that money goes right to the top. Also they pay low capital gains and dividend taxes on their stock sales and dividends. More money to the top. If you factor in the imperialist wars which resulted in tremendous corporate profits for military corps and oil companies and companies like Halburton, you get the idea that the US government has spent TRILLIONS which has been transferred from the people (via the deficit) right to the top.

The whole argument about welfare and medicare and medicaid is made because who else is going to pay for all the theft that is now the deficit? They have to create a villain and a false cause - otherwise the focus would be on them.
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Checkmate!

lmao


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..mmmm...straw man argument, I object to Gov assistance to ANYONE, CORP. or NATION...if I want to help I have that right,taking my money under threat of fine, jail, wage garnishment or asset forfeiture and then claim how generous we are is hypocritical..Govt, should provide those services we cannot do ourselves BUT needs/must be done...period...
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Re: Why do you have a problem with people receiving GOV assistants but not corporations?
To all the twits against welfare, I guarantee you that if you lose your job and your family is hungry, you WILL go on assistance if you can't find a job.

That is a FACT!
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Not if you're not a female who can claim kids. Being not-the-wrong-skin-color probably helps too, according to what I've heard.

This is an important point. People who support these social programs should always think "if I needed it, could I get it?"
They will often find that the answer is NO, but you're not supposed to think about that.
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Those on TEMPORARY assistance isnt so much the issue as lifetimes. 20,30,40 years these are the people that have killed this country alone with the banksters
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11/08/2012 05:41 PM
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Re: Why do you have a problem with people receiving GOV assistants but not corporations?
The Federal Reserve does not operate using TAX DOLLARS. They are private banks.

Welfare, Obamaphones, food stamps and so forth come from TAX Dollars.

I do not like to pay tax dollars.

I can't put it any more simple than that.

But don't try to pretend the federal reserve is the same as the U.S. government.

And I do NOT support corporate welfare either nor bank bailouts but if the Federal reserve is doing it, that's a totally different situation. Banks answer to their shareholders.
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Are you saying no tax dollars go to the FED?

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Dude, she's a complete fucking idiot.

Don't waste the time I have with this twit.
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^^This, she's a nutcase.
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11/08/2012 05:56 PM
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Re: Why do you have a problem with people receiving GOV assistants but not corporations?
This is what I think about welfare to help the disabled, poor etc.

All you advocates who support this so called method of 'charity' want it this way because the truth is that is supposedly the only way you can feed and clothe the hungry.

You dont want to face the moral dilemma of 'should I as an individual donate some of my money, some of my clothes etc' when instead you want to take the easy way out and support the worst kind of charity, if you can call it that, by the most immoral institution ever known to man.

Your mantra is, 'out of sight, out of mind' because you can't bring yourself to make that decision to voluntarily give your money or your clothes or your time to help those who need a helping hand.

It's too easy to say 'hey I'm a giving person, I pay taxes and it goes to help the the poor, so that makes me a good person'.

A true test of a society and the individual is their will to practice true charity and not the charity that we are forced to pay into.

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