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Nov 22 - 23: a tropical cyclone heading towards New England!!!

 
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529. Dr. Jeff Masters, Director of Meteorology (Admin)
01:07 PM GMT em 08 de Novembro de 2012

Latest 06Z GFS shows an unsettling possibility for Nov 22 - 23: a tropical cyclone heading towards New England, a blocking ridge in place over Greenland, and a strong negatively tilted trough over the Eastern U.S., which would have the potential to pull the tropical cyclone to the NW and merge with a big extratropical cyclone over New England. Granted, 2-week GFS forecasts are very low reliability, but I don't like seeing another Sandy-type situation predicted by the GFS.
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534. LargoFl01:15 PM GMT em 08 de Novembro de 2012

I cannot imagine..yet another powerful storm hitting the northeast once again,somehow we must be taking a good hard look at this climate change thing, now IF..this is going to become the NORM in years to come..officials up there will have to rethink..how close to the waterline they allow homes etc..perhaps..parkland along the coastline with no homes,businesses etc in the flooding zones?..
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Re: Nov 22 - 23: a tropical cyclone heading towards New England!!!
2 week GFS forecasts are not very reliable, but I hope it's correct!!! Another stor in the northeast would be just marvellous!!!!banana2
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534. LargoFl01:15 PM GMT em 08 de Novembro de 2012

I cannot imagine..yet another powerful storm hitting the northeast once again,somehow we must be taking a good hard look at this climate change thing, now IF..this is going to become the NORM in years to come..officials up there will have to rethink..how close to the waterline they allow homes etc..perhaps..parkland along the coastline with no homes,businesses etc in the flooding zones?..
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That sounds like a good idea, Luis. That immediate coastal area is just too vulnerable for residences, parkland would preserve the coast & protect people from unwise residence choices.
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2 week GFS forecasts are not very reliable, but I hope it's correct!!! Another stor in the northeast would be just marvellous!!!!banana2
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Re: Nov 22 - 23: a tropical cyclone heading towards New England!!!
549. ILwthrfan01:34 PM GMT em 08 de Novembro de 2012
Quoting JeffMasters:
Latest 06Z GFS shows an unsettling possibility for Nov 22 - 23: a tropical cyclone heading towards New England, a blocking ridge in place over Greenland, and a strong negatively tilted trough over the Eastern U.S., which would have the potential to pull the tropical cyclone to the NW and merge with a big extratropical cyclone over New England. Granted, 2-week GFS forecasts are very low reliability, but I don't like seeing another Sandy-type situation predicted by the GFS.

Jeff Masters


I would assume that if a situation like that occurred again we would see a much quicker transition to an extra-tropical cyclone much further south in latitude? I'd imagine with SST's drop of 2 Celsius or more from the Gulf Stream south has occurred since Sandy was in that area...

Not to mention that the troughs have been digging further south as well. That is one monster trough the models are showing early next week.
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Re: Nov 22 - 23: a tropical cyclone heading towards New England!!!
2 week GFS forecasts are not very reliable, but I hope it's correct!!! Another stor in the northeast would be just marvellous!!!!banana2
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fuck off you brazillian cunt
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Not very likely, man!
While you from US northeast will be getting your asses kicked by the 3rd severe storm in a month I'll be here in Brazil drinking some beer on the beach, 90ºF and a gentle breeze.laugh
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Re: Nov 22 - 23: a tropical cyclone heading towards New England!!!
Interesting, when Owebama ridiciously taxes the coal industry any day now and they pass this cost to consumers and people can't afford heat, I wonder how that is going to work for you blue states when its freakin freezing?

Good choice folks.
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Re: Nov 22 - 23: a tropical cyclone heading towards New England!!!
534. LargoFl01:15 PM GMT em 08 de Novembro de 2012

I cannot imagine..yet another powerful storm hitting the northeast once again,somehow we must be taking a good hard look at this climate change thing, now IF..this is going to become the NORM in years to come..officials up there will have to rethink..how close to the waterline they allow homes etc..perhaps..parkland along the coastline with no homes,businesses etc in the flooding zones?..
 Quoting: Luisport


That sounds like a good idea, Luis. That immediate coastal area is just too vulnerable for residences, parkland would preserve the coast & protect people from unwise residence choices.
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NO! Let's try an alternative approach. How about having folks take personal responsibility for their choices?

If you want to build near the ocean, fine. Want to build in a flood zone, fine. But there are consequences and one needs to prepare or STFU.

Oh, and don't depend on the gubbiment to help. FEMA closed due to weather, couldn't make this stuff up
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Re: Nov 22 - 23: a tropical cyclone heading towards New England!!!
534. LargoFl01:15 PM GMT em 08 de Novembro de 2012

I cannot imagine..yet another powerful storm hitting the northeast once again,somehow we must be taking a good hard look at this climate change thing, now IF..this is going to become the NORM in years to come..officials up there will have to rethink..how close to the waterline they allow homes etc..perhaps..parkland along the coastline with no homes,businesses etc in the flooding zones?..
 Quoting: Luisport


That sounds like a good idea, Luis. That immediate coastal area is just too vulnerable for residences, parkland would preserve the coast & protect people from unwise residence choices.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


NO! Let's try an alternative approach. How about having folks take personal responsibility for their choices?

If you want to build near the ocean, fine. Want to build in a flood zone, fine. But there are consequences and one needs to prepare or STFU.

Oh, and don't depend on the gubbiment to help. FEMA closed due to weather, couldn't make this stuff up
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THIS is DUMB. Everyone can have a natural disaster! Its not just the coast! Earthquakes, tornadoes, WILD fires, give me a break!
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534. LargoFl01:15 PM GMT em 08 de Novembro de 2012

I cannot imagine..yet another powerful storm hitting the northeast once again,somehow we must be taking a good hard look at this climate change thing, now IF..this is going to become the NORM in years to come..officials up there will have to rethink..how close to the waterline they allow homes etc..perhaps..parkland along the coastline with no homes,businesses etc in the flooding zones?..
 Quoting: Luisport


That sounds like a good idea, Luis. That immediate coastal area is just too vulnerable for residences, parkland would preserve the coast & protect people from unwise residence choices.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


NO! Let's try an alternative approach. How about having folks take personal responsibility for their choices?

If you want to build near the ocean, fine. Want to build in a flood zone, fine. But there are consequences and one needs to prepare or STFU.

Oh, and don't depend on the gubbiment to help. FEMA closed due to weather, couldn't make this stuff up
 Quoting: Lets act like adults 25753077


THIS is DUMB. Everyone can have a natural disaster! Its not just the coast! Earthquakes, tornadoes, WILD fires, give me a break!
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You have successfully demonstrated your double digit IQ. So folks can't live anywhere there are tornadoes, fires, etc. which is everywhere? Your critical thinking skills are non-existent so I'll help. Live anywhere, be prepared.
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534. LargoFl01:15 PM GMT em 08 de Novembro de 2012

I cannot imagine..yet another powerful storm hitting the northeast once again,somehow we must be taking a good hard look at this climate change thing, now IF..this is going to become the NORM in years to come..officials up there will have to rethink..how close to the waterline they allow homes etc..perhaps..parkland along the coastline with no homes,businesses etc in the flooding zones?..
 Quoting: Luisport


That sounds like a good idea, Luis. That immediate coastal area is just too vulnerable for residences, parkland would preserve the coast & protect people from unwise residence choices.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


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Re: Nov 22 - 23: a tropical cyclone heading towards New England!!!
Okay...

Who's got the HAARP remote control?

Is it under the sofa cushion and somebody's sitting on it?

Somebody needs to look for the CONTROLLER before NY/NJ/DC are destroyed...
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maybe we are weakening the east coast, and also during evacuations certain goodies are being placed for an invading force.
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Interesting, when Owebama ridiciously taxes the coal industry any day now and they pass this cost to consumers and people can't afford heat, I wonder how that is going to work for you blue states when its freakin freezing?

Good choice folks.
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There is nothing that says there is another storm coming. Masters blog was last updated on November 7th and not the 8th. There is nothing in those links that says so.
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Re: Nov 22 - 23: a tropical cyclone heading towards New England!!!
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 03:28 PM GMT em 08 de Novembro de 2012

“I am waiting for the locusts and pestilence next,” said New Jersey Governor Chris Christie at a press conference on Wednesday, after Winter Storm Athena punished New Jersey with heavy snows, high winds, and a 3-foot storm surge. The storm brought unexpectedly high snowfall amounts along a swath from Central New Jersey northeastwards across Southeast New York, Long Island, Connecticut, and South Central Massachusetts. The 4.7" of snow that fell at New York City's Central Park was the city's earliest 4-inch snowfall on record. The old record for earliest 4-inch snow was Nov. 23 in 1989. Last year's Snowtober storm brought the earliest 2" snowfall on record in NYC on October 29, 2011, but the city didn't surpass the 4.7" mark until January 21, as winter basically failed to show up. The 5.7" of snow that fell in Newark, NJ Wednesday was the heaviest single-day November snowfall on record in Newark (going back to 1931), and the earliest snowfall of that magnitude on record (the previous record was set just last year, when the Snowtober storm dumped 5.2" of snow on October 29, 2011.) Several locations in New Jersey and Connecticut recorded a foot a more of snow during Athena, with the storm's highest total of 13.5" recorded in Clintonville, CT. High winds combined with the heavy snows and rains to knock out power to 375,000 additional customers in New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut yesterday, and a storm surge of 2 - 3.5' hit most of the mid-Atlantic and New England coasts, from Virginia to Massachusetts. The storm brought waves of 20' to the waters offshore of Long Island, NY and near Block Island, RI. The top winds over water were 61 mph, gusting to 76 mph, in Buzzard's Bay, MA. Here are the top wind gusts from Athena as of 8 am EST on Thursday, November 8, 2012:

Figure 1. A resident clears out destroyed household belongings from his flood-damaged home as snow falls on November 7, 2012 in the Staten Island borough of New York City. How often do you see snow falling on hurricane-damaged coasts? This sort of one-two weather punch is unprecedented in my lifetime. Image credit: AP.

The good news for the Northeast is that locusts and pestilence are not next, but rather sunny skies and a substantial warm-up. Athena, currently centered just south of Cape Cod, Massachusetts, will move off to the northeast today, leaving sunny skies in its wake. Highs will be near 50°F today in New York City, and will warm to mid-60s by this weekend.

Here comes Brutus: major blizzard coming for Montana
Right on the heels of Winter Storm Athena comes Winter Storm Brutus--a powerful low pressure system that is taking shape over Southern Montana this morning. Light snows have begun in Southwest Montana, and will spread to the northwest across much of Montana and into western North Dakota this afternoon through Saturday. As much as 12” to 18” of snowfall is expected for several major cities in Montana, including Great Falls, and over 2 feet is expected in the mountains. According to the Glasgow, MT NWS Facebook page, the current storm total snowfall amounts north of the Missouri River/Fort Peck areas would be within the top 10 two day snowfall totals across this region, going back 115 years. Strong winds will combine with heavy snowfall to produce blizzard conditions across northeast Montana. Brutus is forming in response to an usually large loop in the jet stream over the Western U.S. On the east side of the jet stream axis, a southwesterly flow of air has pumped in record-breaking warm air from the Desert Southwest. Sheridan, Wyoming hit 79°F Wednesday, breaking their previous all-time monthly record of 78° set on Nov. 5, 1975. Records go back to 1893. However, Sheridan will be on the west side of jet stream by Saturday, as the cold front associated with Brutus passes through Wyoming. This will bring Sheridan powerful northwest winds, 4 - 8 inches of snow, and high temperatures 50° colder than Wednesday's.

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I can't find the cyclone prediction for two weeks out. Where is that?
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There is nothing that says there is another storm coming. Masters blog was last updated on November 7th and not the 8th. There is nothing in those links that says so.
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Although it's to early to predict it reliably, at this moment EURO models are signaling that there is a real possibility.
I hope they're right and that this storm is MUCH STRONGER than Sandy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!hiding
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eastern Atlantic system got yellow cycled with 10 percent by the NHC:

AN AREA OF CLOUDINESS AND THUNDERSTORMS HAS DEVELOPED ABOUT 600 MILES WEST-NORTHWEST OF THE CAPE VERDE ISLANDS IN ASSOCIATION WITH A SURFACE TROUGH OF LOW PRESSURE AND A UPPER-LEVEL LOW PRESSURE AREA. ANY ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE SLOW TO OCCUR...AND THIS SYSTEM HAS A LOW CHANCE...10 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.
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