Look, this thread is about a dream. If any of you have the notion that you're going to settle an age-old debate here at GLP, forget about it. And we all know we're not going to change any minds here, esp. with some of you calling others liars and other names. If anybody wants to know what I think about it and why, I can give you links to where I wrote it all out or scholars have written about it. I've read all the other side's arguments and debated this for years, and quite frankly I'm sick of people hating the idea that Jesus could return unexpectedly. Not playing this stupid game anymore.