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Oh Mr Darwin..... why didn't all animals go extinct during the millions years it took evolution to NON-intelligently design umbilical cords?

 
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what America needs a in 2016 is a Pancho Villa to not go extinct!
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what America needs a in 2016 is a Pancho Villa to not go extinct!
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Wouldn't be enough;
"“Also, there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth anguish of nations, not knowing the way out because of the roaring of the sea and [its] agitation, 26 while men become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited earth; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 27 And then they will see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 But as these things start to occur, raise yourselves erect and lift YOUR heads up, because YOUR deliverance is getting near.” Lk21:25
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Re: Oh Mr Darwin..... why didn't all animals go extinct during the millions years it took evolution to NON-intelligently design umbilical cords?
You had your answer three months ago, but you refused to read it until someone condensed it into two paragraphs. Or possibly they could've put it in chapters and verses?

Thread: Strange how embryos survived a million years before the evolution created umbilical cords right Mr Darwin?

Try reading a book other than the Bible
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Re: Oh Mr Darwin..... why didn't all animals go extinct during the millions years it took evolution to NON-intelligently design umbilical cords?
You had your answer three months ago, but you refused to read it until someone condensed it into two paragraphs. Or possibly they could've put it in chapters and verses?

Thread: Strange how embryos survived a million years before the evolution created umbilical cords right Mr Darwin?

Try reading a book other than the Bible
 Quoting: AllGunsBlazing


Can you be more scientifically specific, I figure the first embryo would have died with no cord and could never reproduce. Evolution isn't even a theory it's just a sy/fy joke on the simple.

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Re: Oh Mr Darwin..... why didn't all animals go extinct during the millions years it took evolution to NON-intelligently design umbilical cords?
You had your answer three months ago, but you refused to read it until someone condensed it into two paragraphs. Or possibly they could've put it in chapters and verses?

Thread: Strange how embryos survived a million years before the evolution created umbilical cords right Mr Darwin?

Try reading a book other than the Bible
 Quoting: AllGunsBlazing


Can you be more scientifically specific, I figure the first embryo would have died with no cord and could never reproduce. Evolution isn't even a theory it's just a sy/fy joke on the simple.
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The remnant yolk sacs of eggs evolved into the umbilical cord. It was much safer to have your fetus growing inside you than to have to lay eggs which proved as an evolutionary advantage for mammals and marsupials.

So basically, the eggs starting growing inside animals, which was advantageous. What was the yolk and other parts that are present in eggs, are still present in human embryos as well. Our early development is strikingly similar to reptiles' early development.
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Re: Oh Mr Darwin..... why didn't all animals go extinct during the millions years it took evolution to NON-intelligently design umbilical cords?
You had your answer three months ago, but you refused to read it until someone condensed it into two paragraphs. Or possibly they could've put it in chapters and verses?

Thread: Strange how embryos survived a million years before the evolution created umbilical cords right Mr Darwin?

Try reading a book other than the Bible
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I went looking for the 2 paragraphs, all excited, but didn't find them.
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You people can be so stupid.

The fetus didn't just APPEAR it came to pass over a very long evolution cycle that ended up working like it does now.

You people must have the IQ of a frog.
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Re: Oh Mr Darwin..... why didn't all animals go extinct during the millions years it took evolution to NON-intelligently design umbilical cords?
You had your answer three months ago, but you refused to read it until someone condensed it into two paragraphs. Or possibly they could've put it in chapters and verses?

Thread: Strange how embryos survived a million years before the evolution created umbilical cords right Mr Darwin?

Try reading a book other than the Bible
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I went looking for the 2 paragraphs, all excited, but didn't find them.
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No, this is the post I'm referring to. I apologize, he only wanted one paragraph.

Thread: Strange how embryos survived a million years before the evolution created umbilical cords right Mr Darwin? (Page 2)

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Re: Oh Mr Darwin..... why didn't all animals go extinct during the millions years it took evolution to NON-intelligently design umbilical cords?
You had your answer three months ago, but you refused to read it until someone condensed it into two paragraphs. Or possibly they could've put it in chapters and verses?

Thread: Strange how embryos survived a million years before the evolution created umbilical cords right Mr Darwin?

Try reading a book other than the Bible
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THIS!!!...lol....what can you do with dark age thinkers?
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Re: Oh Mr Darwin..... why didn't all animals go extinct during the millions years it took evolution to NON-intelligently design umbilical cords?
DGN aka Dillons Digital Network runs a website about his beliefs.

Go have a look at it, the production values have to be seen to be believed.
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Re: Oh Mr Darwin..... why didn't all animals go extinct during the millions years it took evolution to NON-intelligently design umbilical cords?
You had your answer three months ago, but you refused to read it until someone condensed it into two paragraphs. Or possibly they could've put it in chapters and verses?

Thread: Strange how embryos survived a million years before the evolution created umbilical cords right Mr Darwin?

Try reading a book other than the Bible
 Quoting: AllGunsBlazing


Can you be more scientifically specific, I figure the first embryo would have died with no cord and could never reproduce. Evolution isn't even a theory it's just a sy/fy joke on the simple.
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So you trade logic, science and study for mindless, blind faith? Well then....your clearly not looking for answers...your looking for someone to tell you your going to heaven.
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Re: Oh Mr Darwin..... why didn't all animals go extinct during the millions years it took evolution to NON-intelligently design umbilical cords?
You had your answer three months ago, but you refused to read it until someone condensed it into two paragraphs. Or possibly they could've put it in chapters and verses?

Thread: Strange how embryos survived a million years before the evolution created umbilical cords right Mr Darwin?

Try reading a book other than the Bible
 Quoting: AllGunsBlazing


Can you be more scientifically specific, I figure the first embryo would have died with no cord and could never reproduce. Evolution isn't even a theory it's just a sy/fy joke on the simple.
 Quoting: DGN


The remnant yolk sacs of eggs evolved into the umbilical cord. It was much safer to have your fetus growing inside you than to have to lay eggs which proved as an evolutionary advantage for mammals and marsupials.

So basically, the eggs starting growing inside animals, which was advantageous. What was the yolk and other parts that are present in eggs, are still present in human embryos as well. Our early development is strikingly similar to reptiles' early development.
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"Our early development is strikingly similar to reptiles' early development."
Are you referring to this?- [link to www.hoaxofdodos.com] Haeckle's drawings showing all those embryos were long proven an invention, but apparently still appearing in textbooks.
[this site was first google result. I haven't read, nor can I vouch for whatever else may be on the site, but it looks interesting, so I probably will read more.]
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Re: Oh Mr Darwin..... why didn't all animals go extinct during the millions years it took evolution to NON-intelligently design umbilical cords?
You had your answer three months ago, but you refused to read it until someone condensed it into two paragraphs. Or possibly they could've put it in chapters and verses?

Thread: Strange how embryos survived a million years before the evolution created umbilical cords right Mr Darwin?

Try reading a book other than the Bible
 Quoting: AllGunsBlazing


Can you be more scientifically specific, I figure the first embryo would have died with no cord and could never reproduce. Evolution isn't even a theory it's just a sy/fy joke on the simple.
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The remnant yolk sacs of eggs evolved into the umbilical cord. It was much safer to have your fetus growing inside you than to have to lay eggs which proved as an evolutionary advantage for mammals and marsupials.

So basically, the eggs starting growing inside animals, which was advantageous. What was the yolk and other parts that are present in eggs, are still present in human embryos as well. Our early development is strikingly similar to reptiles' early development.
 Quoting: AllGunsBlazing


"Our early development is strikingly similar to reptiles' early development."
Are you referring to this?- [link to www.hoaxofdodos.com] Haeckle's drawings showing all those embryos were long proven an invention, but apparently still appearing in textbooks.
[this site was first google result. I haven't read, nor can I vouch for whatever else may be on the site, but it looks interesting, so I probably will read more.]
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No, I'm referring to this:

[link to youtu.be]

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Eat SHIT, Mr. Darwin!
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Re: Oh Mr Darwin..... why didn't all animals go extinct during the millions years it took evolution to NON-intelligently design umbilical cords?
You had your answer three months ago, but you refused to read it until someone condensed it into two paragraphs. Or possibly they could've put it in chapters and verses?

Thread: Strange how embryos survived a million years before the evolution created umbilical cords right Mr Darwin?

Try reading a book other than the Bible
 Quoting: AllGunsBlazing


I went looking for the 2 paragraphs, all excited, but didn't find them.
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No, this is the post I'm referring to. I apologize, he only wanted one paragraph.

Thread: Strange how embryos survived a million years before the evolution created umbilical cords right Mr Darwin? (Page 2)
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Thread: Strange how embryos survived a million years before the evolution created umbilical cords right Mr Darwin? (Page 2)

This is the paragraph?

Says "slowly becoming what God is or was is stupid". [< this is supposed to be paraphrasing DGN]
But this idea seems like pure speculation. [link to www.designinference.com]
I've posted links to this article before, but I think it deserves at least one more. I find it very enlightening. I guess based on the observation that all matter has liquid, solid, and gas phases [?], and reasoning that the gas phase is the most 'value added' one [?], alchemists speculated that everything, including humans is 'evolving' or 'becoming god' [spirit]. [Talk about 'mad scientists'!]
But I don't think we actually see for instance ,humans evolving [or"ascending the stairway to heaven"] at all. Just the opposite, really.

That link went dead. let's see how long this one lasts. [link to docs.google.com (secure)]
A search yields multiple results of huffing and puffing about Dembski's article , but no article!

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Thread: Strange how embryos survived a million years before the evolution created umbilical cords right Mr Darwin? (Page 2)

This is the paragraph?

Says "slowly becoming what God is or was is stupid". [< this is supposed to be paraphrasing DGN]
But this idea seems like pure speculation. [link to www.designinference.com]
I've posted links to this article before, but I think it deserves at least one more. I find it very enlightening. I guess based on the observation that all matter has liquid, solid, and gas phases [?], and reasoning that the gas phase is the most 'value added' one [?], alchemists speculated that everything, including humans is 'evolving' or 'becoming god' [spirit]. [Talk about 'mad scientists'!]
But I don't think we actually see for instance ,humans evolving [or"ascending the stairway to heaven"] at all. Just the opposite, really.
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You're misunderstanding me. I said the OP started this same thread three weeks ago, and when people offered reasoned, thought-out explanations, the OP met those posts with basically a "TLDR; shorten it to one paragraph and I will read it" response. If he's not willing to read more than one paragraph, then he's being willfully ignorant. Which is why I suggested someone write a response in Chapters and Verses. It seems he's willing to read that.

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sorry, double post

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And the correct answer is!

EGGS!

you inbred hillbilly's need science soo bad.
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Darwin DIED quite a few years back...

yet YOU continue to post inane titled threads.

Not much of an argument when the person attacked can't fight back.
"Everybody lies."
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Re: Oh Mr Darwin..... why didn't all animals go extinct during the millions years it took evolution to NON-intelligently design umbilical cords?
You had your answer three months ago, but you refused to read it until someone condensed it into two paragraphs. Or possibly they could've put it in chapters and verses?

Thread: Strange how embryos survived a million years before the evolution created umbilical cords right Mr Darwin?

Try reading a book other than the Bible
 Quoting: AllGunsBlazing


Can you be more scientifically specific, I figure the first embryo would have died with no cord and could never reproduce. Evolution isn't even a theory it's just a sy/fy joke on the simple.
 Quoting: DGN


So you trade logic, science and study for mindless, blind faith? Well then....your clearly not looking for answers...your looking for someone to tell you your going to heaven.
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Please forgive me if this is an overreaction, because I've been watching videos of Christopher Hitchens and Bart Ehrman [each debating Dinesh D'Souza], and they both make the same kind of assumptions about believers in the Bible as truth and people whose God is the god of the Bible.
DGN hopes to live on earth with as many of you as will accept God's invitation, and help realize our creator's original purpose: for the whole earth to become a paradise- "satisfying the desire of every living thing". Rather than "not looking for answers",i'm guessing he's more like absolutely in love with the truth.

Maybe I'm 'projecting' too much my own thoughts onto DGN. But 'projecting' was exactly what I thought when I heard the 2 mentioned above talk about the "childish" hopes of the believer, as vs. themselves. I wondered if they were so impatient and angry actually with their own childhood selves ,embarrassed to have ever hoped for anything better than the suffering and injustice they see all around them. Children can be smarter about some things than most adults.
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All the crap you post on these forums can be answered with 1 simple google search, You make your religion look even more ridiculous all the time...
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do you talk to dead people often ?
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All the crap you post on these forums can be answered with 1 simple google search, You make your religion look even more ridiculous all the time...
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The religion of evolution ? Yes I hope I've helped demonstrate that even google can still produce answers , though maybe less all the time.
There are a couple of subjects though... Well,on second thought- best keep my mouth shut 'bout those!
"If you want to know who rules over you in society, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." Voltaire.
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Why didnt they go extinct after the flood when there was nothing to eat or drink?
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All the crap you post on these forums can be answered with 1 simple google search, You make your religion look even more ridiculous all the time...
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"If you want to know who rules over you in society, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." Voltaire.
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Exactly, which are creationists or religion in general.

Science says prove me wrong and is open to change.
Religion says this is it, it can't change, and is blind to evidence.
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All the crap you post on these forums can be answered with 1 simple google search, You make your religion look even more ridiculous all the time...
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"If you want to know who rules over you in society, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." Voltaire.
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Exactly, which are creationists or religion in general.

Science says prove me wrong and is open to change.
Religion says this is it, it can't change, and is blind to evidence.
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Oh I disagree completely. If you are fair-minded at all, look on glp and see who is criticized the most. Many accuse believers in the creator of being fantasy-prone , and purely imagine that they themselves are 'terribly brave' to do so.

As for your second paragraph, if you substitute for the word "Science" ,"Any believer in the true God", and then for the word"Religion", kindly substitute "So called science".
Fixed it for ya.
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What makes me giggle to myself is the knowledge that as soon as we prove we were intelligently designed, it will also disprove the existence of God. When we find out who or what really created us, it will destroy the religions of the world. I can't wait for that day.

[link to rense.com]
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All the crap you post on these forums can be answered with 1 simple google search, You make your religion look even more ridiculous all the time...
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"If you want to know who rules over you in society, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." Voltaire.
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Exactly, which are creationists or religion in general.

Science says prove me wrong and is open to change.
Religion says this is it, it can't change, and is blind to evidence.
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Oh I disagree completely. If you are fair-minded at all, look on glp and see who is criticized the most. Many accuse believers in the creator of being fantasy-prone , and purely imagine that they themselves are 'terribly brave' to do so.

As for your second paragraph, if you substitute for the word "Science" ,"Any believer in the true God", and then for the word"Religion", kindly substitute "So called science".
Fixed it for ya.
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How many scientists are banging down church doors and telling pastors and priests they have to teach the Big Bang Theory or evolution?

How many Christians are banging down school doors and telling science teachers they have to teach creationism?

Edit: GLP is hardly a fair comparison to the real world.

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