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Title: Tokyo Bay Contamination More Serious than Fukushima Offing
Source: NHK
Date Aired: Jan 15, 2012
Date Published: Nov 4, 2012
Translated by: guardianofmiyagi

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The Nuclear Emergency Response Headquarters at the Prime Minister’s Office announced Wednesday a 150 million yen plan to retool devices to monitor radiation levels in the air at 675 locations in Fukushima and surrounding prefectures, saying they were underreporting levels by around 10 percent.

Radiation was blocked by metal boxes containing batteries next to the detection units at the monitoring posts, an official said. Residents and local governments have complained of discrepancies in data compared with readings from other sources. [...]

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Thread: Fukushima radiation ‘underreported’ Metal boxes in monitors are blocking radioactivity — Hundreds of locations in multiple prefectures affected
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Report: What is going on at Daiichi? Fukushima fallout increased Nov. 2-4 — Highest back-to-back days in months (CHARTS)

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Looks good,
the Situation could be much worse!

The max. affected Area is relativ small
(above 300 Bq) and maybe we will find
a Way to treat this Mud!

And even when there is no Way already
in 150 Years we will pass the max Point!
G.Y.!B.E.
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[...]

According to the Russian news agency Prima Media, from January to September in this year, the radiation dose exceeded of Russia standard value was detected from 319 goods, such as used car, food, medical supplies and others which were imported from Japan, to the Russian Far East ports.

The Russia customhouse did not accept importing 284 goods, then, send back to Japan.

145 goods send back to Japan in whole last year, due to the radiation dose exceeded of standard value was detected in the Russian Far East area.

But, It will reach almost double compared to 2011 with this year, even until September.


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Thread: 200% as many radioactive products returned to Japan this year than in 2011 says Russian report (VIDEO)
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The Japanese have been burning radioactive debris.
This concentrated contaminated material is being dumped into various rivers and into Tokyo Bay.
The Japanese are deliberately spreading the contamination to dilute it..
This has been ongoing..
This, along with the constant contamination from the cooling effforts..
They will forever be known as the destroyers of the western pacific ocean.

And the world does nothing ..
Ain't nuclear technology great...?

nuked
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Did you notice that Nuclear Energy was never mentioned during the debates?

Only Clean Energy
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The Japanese have been burning radioactive debris.
This concentrated contaminated material is being dumped into various rivers and into Tokyo Bay.
The Japanese are deliberately spreading the contamination to dilute it..
This has been ongoing..
This, along with the constant contamination from the cooling effforts..
They will forever be known as the destroyers of the western pacific ocean.

And the world does nothing ..
Ain't nuclear technology great...?

:nuked:
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Well, diluting it certainly goes a long ways towards explaining what was to me previously, insanity! But burning contaminated debris and agitating radioactive particle BACK into the air is insanity just the same..
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The Japanese have been burning radioactive debris.
This concentrated contaminated material is being dumped into various rivers and into Tokyo Bay.
The Japanese are deliberately spreading the contamination to dilute it..
This has been ongoing..
This, along with the constant contamination from the cooling effforts..
They will forever be known as the destroyers of the western pacific ocean.

And the world does nothing ..
Ain't nuclear technology great...?

nuked
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This Contamination of Tokyo-Bay and the burning of Radioactive Debris are 2 different Things!

The Radioactivity is mostly coming from the Tokyo Surface
and get by Rain in to the River System!

Which *Constant Contamination from the cooling Efforts*?
This Water is moving in a Cycle and get cleaned many Times
and get Re-Used until a specific Point and than it get stored
and create hug Problems!
G.Y.!B.E.
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The Japanese have been burning radioactive debris.
This concentrated contaminated material is being dumped into various rivers and into Tokyo Bay.
The Japanese are deliberately spreading the contamination to dilute it..
This has been ongoing..
This, along with the constant contamination from the cooling effforts..
They will forever be known as the destroyers of the western pacific ocean.

And the world does nothing ..
Ain't nuclear technology great...?

nuked
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Well, diluting it certainly goes a long ways towards explaining what was to me previously, insanity! But burning contaminated debris and agitating radioactive particle BACK into the air is insanity just the same..
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Standard nukester strategy when dealing with contamination..
The solution is dilution.

Insane.. yes.
Deliberate.. yes.
Criminal.. yes.

Insidious poisoning of our only home.

One way or another.. we will eventually destroy
Mother Earth with our filth and stupidity.
Politicians don't give a shit.
Industrialists don't give a shit.
The rich don't give a shit.
The war-mongerers don't give a shit.

It is up to us.. We must demand that it cease.
I have demanded such since the sixties.
Call me green, hippie, retarded.. whatever..
Makes no difference.
Division is also a strategy.. it is working.

I don't have high hopes in this world..
Maybe the next.
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And the world does nothing ..
Ain't nuclear technology great...?

nuked
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This Contamination of Tokyo-Bay and the burning of Radioactive Debris are 2 different Things!


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So.. all of those dump trucks full of concentrated radioactive ash dumping into Tokyo Bay is not a factor..?
Are you that stupid..?
Never mind. You are correct.
Every one else is wrong.
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Nuclear decontamination law goes into full force
TOKYO (Kyodo) -- A nuclear decontamination law went into full effect Sunday, setting the stage for full-fledged efforts to clean up buildings, soil and waste contaminated with radioactive materials in areas affected by the nuclear crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi power plant in Fukushima Prefecture.

[link to mdn.mainichi.jp]

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I was disgusted to see the dump trucks dumping in Tokyo Bay in Arnie Gundersen's video.

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TEPCO Believes Mission Accomplished & Regulators Allow Radioactive Dumping in Tokyo Bay
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Scientist: Cesium sank 20 cm in Tokyo Bay mud

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Radioactive cesium likely from the crippled Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant has sunk more than 20 centimeters deep in the mud of the seabed in Tokyo Bay, according to a scientist.

While it is known that more than 90 percent of cesium deposits remain in the uppermost 5-cm layer of soil on land, Hideo Yamazaki, a professor of environmental analysis at Kinki University, said he found that seabed cesium concentrations peaked at much greater depths at one location.
[link to ajw.asahi.com]

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Contamination level is increasing in Tokyo Bay
[link to fukushima-diary.com]

[snip]

Following up this article..Tama river fish contaminated

Cesium is carried from the rivers to Tokyo Bay.

Prof. Yamazaki from Kinki university measured cesium contained sea ground soil at 36 points of Tokyo bay. The result shows the contamination level is increasing near the outlet of Arakawa river. He assumes cesium is carried from contaminated river.



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That makes sense considering we've already posted reports of trucks dumping into rivers and into Tokyo Bay...

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130 million Bq of cesium has leaked to Tokyo bay in Yokohama
[link to fukushima-diary.com]
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130 million Bq of cesium has leaked to Tokyo bay in Yokohama
[link to fukushima-diary.com]
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This is the maximum of a "Possibility"
but there is no source which show
us the real Dosage of Radioactive Materials!
(i checked the original Source)
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I need to correct my Statement,
in my Theory it was not really right!

But EX-SKF posted today:
Yokohama City Stopped Using Zeolite after Only One Month at Its Final Disposal Site on Tokyo Bay

Yokohama City, which has been dumping the radioactive ashes with low radioactivity from burning household garbage at its final disposal landfill (Minami Honmoku) on Tokyo Bay since September last year, has said the runoff water is safely treated by the cesium absorption towers with zeolite.

Well they lied. They used the absorption towers for one month and stopped using them, but never bothered to tell they stopped using them.

In one month, they used 5500 kilograms of zeolite, which absorbed 5000 becquerels/kg of radioactive cesium. In other words, 27.5 million becquerels of radioactive cesium was effectively caught. So the city thought "Oh that's good", and stopped using zeolite.


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A significant quantity of radioactive cesium, likely from the crippled Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant, has turned up in subsea mud about 200 kilometers away, near the mouth of the Shinanogawa River on Japan's northwestern coast. Scientists said samples taken in 2011 at Nagaoka, Niigata Prefecture, contained concentrations of up to 460 becquerels per kilogram of dry mud, a level comparable to that detected at a river mouth in Tokyo Bay last year. Some isotopes of cesium are heavily radioactive. They are produced in uranium fission and deposits are often closely associated with nuclear accidents and atomic weapons tests. A team sampled coastal seabed mud last August around the mouth of the river's Okozu diversion canal, which discharges into the Sea of Japan. The team was led by Hideo Yamazaki, a professor of environmental analysis at Kinki University.
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Tokyo Bay cesium even higher than levels reported off Fukushima — Nearly entire sea floor contaminated by 2014 (VIDEO)
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We are happy that this is only
a small temporary Problem,
we should pass the max. Point in a few Decades already!
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Dumping all that shit into the bay doesn't help the problem..
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@ Buggy-Chan,
in that Video from Op they speak about it,
it comes from the Surface, which makes Sense!

You really expect that everything is working 100% Right
but on the other Side you know that we all are just Humans
who make a lot of Mistakes!
G.Y.!B.E.
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This, along with the constant contamination from the cooling effforts..
They will forever be known as the destroyers of the western pacific ocean.

And the world does nothing ..
Ain't nuclear technology great...?

nuked
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Which *Constant Contamination from the cooling Efforts*?
This Water is moving in a Cycle and get cleaned many Times
and get Re-Used until a specific Point and than it get stored
and create huge Problems!

 Quoting: the mighty Atom


Fukuwater82/2

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@ Buggy-Chan,
in that Video from Op they speak about it,
it comes from the Surface, which makes Sense!

You really expect that everything is working 100% Right
but on the other Side you know that we all are just Humans
who make a lot of Mistakes!
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Obviously.. if it rains there will be runoff.
The dumping was done with deliberation..

No mistake. Criminal act.

not
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nuked
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Which *Constant Contamination from the cooling Efforts*?
This Water is moving in a Cycle and get cleaned many Times
and get Re-Used until a specific Point and than it get stored
and create huge Problems!

 Quoting: the mighty Atom


 Quoting: the mighty Atom



The water decontamination system has had leaks and problems from the beginning.
No reason to believe it has become efficient and foolproof.
The groundwater influx through cracks in foundations is carrying radiation contamination from the reactor building basements to the ocean.
Why are the basements still full..?

What did they do with mega-barge and all of that contaminated water..?
What is the state of the coriums..?
How much longer until they can move the spent fuel..?
How many workers are sick or dead..?
How much longer can they continue to store contaminated water onsite..?
What are the odds against another large earthquake further damaging or destroying the buildings and spent fuel pools..?

You have no answers.

zip
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chuckle You're the best WB!

I spit Red Bull at your zip it. Hahaha!
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nuked
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Which *Constant Contamination from the cooling Efforts*?
This Water is moving in a Cycle and get cleaned many Times
and get Re-Used until a specific Point and than it get stored
and create huge Problems!

 Quoting: the mighty Atom


 Quoting: the mighty Atom





What did they do with mega-barge and all of that contaminated water..?
What is the state of the coriums..?
How much longer until they can move the spent fuel..?
How many workers are sick or dead..?
How much longer can they continue to store contaminated water onsite..?
What are the odds against another large earthquake further damaging or destroying the buildings and spent fuel pools..?

You have no answers.

zip
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bsflag

I have Answers!
1. I don't know and i am to lazy to look for it at the moment

2. not Hot, not even inside

3. a few Months, ca. 4-6

4. afaik Not a single one (by Radiation)

5. You can calculate it but even when the Daiichi Plant
is full they could continue because they can use the
area outside of the Plant itself

6. possible

Answered all Questions!
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One facility for removing cesium was created by Kurion Inc. of Irvine, Calif., featuring equipment so big it could only be transported by a special Russian aircraft, Tepco officials said. Another was made by France's Areva SA, which came up with an intricate system of pipes and valves that took 50 welders more than a month to put together, Tepco said. The Areva system isn't being used now.

A third cesium-removal facility was made by Toshiba Corp. 6502.TO -3.46% Tepco says that one is the main decontamination system in use. Toshiba and support companies deploy 140 workers to operate and monitor the water-processing system, and another 20 to oversee pumping and circulation, through a 2.5-mile line of pressure-resistant hoses. Tepco has two sets of backup lines in place as well, in case the main line gets blocked and needs to be flushed out.

Some of this cleaned-up water goes back up to the truck at the top of the hill, to get rerouted through the reactors.

But much of it gets stored in the squat, gray tanks that have replaced the trees that once grew throughout the sprawling Fukushima Daiichi compound.The tanks store water that has a high saline content, which can damage equipment, explains one Tepco official. Water at other stages of processing are stored in containers of other shapes and colors. Tepco has the capacity to store 165,000 tons of contaminated water, said Katsuhiko Iwaki, deputy manager of the Fukushima Daiichi stabilization center. About 125,000 tons of water already is being stored. The company plans to expand capacity to about 205,000 tons, he said.

Fukushima Daiichi also has one floating container for contaminated water. "There's Megafloat,'' said Mr. Iwaki, pointing to a big, flat AstroTurf-covered barge quietly anchored in the sea by the side of reactor No. 1. The barge was originally created to be a floating fishing pier for the southwestern city of Shizuoka.

Source: [link to online.wsj.com]

Forgot the Date, this is from 29 Feb 2012

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Sorry about that. I'm sure you are embarassed.

The numbers don't add up.
Calculate.. multiply the rate of water injection by the number of days
minus the average available rate of decontamination times the number of operational days
minus volume of available storage..
Pretty simple, really.

The overage goes into the Pacific and has from the beginning.
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Sorry about that. I'm sure you are embarassed.

The numbers don't add up.
Calculate.. multiply the rate of water injection by the number of days
minus the average available rate of decontamination times the number of operational days
minus volume of available storage..
Pretty simple, really.

The overage goes into the Pacific and has from the beginning.
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Because your Brain is to small to realize the Condenser,
look Graphic- it may make you smarter!

chuckle
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Sorry about that. I'm sure you are embarassed.

The numbers don't add up.
Calculate.. multiply the rate of water injection by the number of days
minus the average available rate of decontamination times the number of operational days
minus volume of available storage..
Pretty simple, really.

The overage goes into the Pacific and has from the beginning.
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Because your Brain is to small to realize the Condenser,
look Graphic- it may make you smarter!

chuckle
Fukuwater82/2
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According to Tepco...?

lmao
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another stupid Fukushima thread, why dont you all just admit than none of you have a clue whats going on and just get back to your sad little lives.
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another stupid Fukushima thread, why dont you all just admit than none of you have a clue whats going on and just get back to your sad little lives.
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Why are you bumping old threads and stalking? BAN OFF JERK
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another stupid Fukushima thread, why dont you all just admit than none of you have a clue whats going on and just get back to your sad little lives.
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Why are you bumping old threads and stalking? BAN OFF JERK
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i was just highlighting how stupid your thread was,vrwc
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another stupid Fukushima thread, why dont you all just admit than none of you have a clue whats going on and just get back to your sad little lives.
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Why are you bumping old threads and stalking? BAN OFF JERK
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i was just highlighting how stupid your thread was,vrwc
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You've proven your own stupidity, is all.
Triple nuclear meltdown with loss of containment.
Debunk that, twit.
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another stupid Fukushima thread, why dont you all just admit than none of you have a clue whats going on and just get back to your sad little lives.
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Why are you bumping old threads and stalking? BAN OFF JERK
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i was just highlighting how stupid your thread was,vrwc
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You've proven your own stupidity, is all.
Triple nuclear meltdown with loss of containment.
Debunk that, twit.
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waterbug.....GET A LIFE!!!
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That's f'n funny coming from you 27347017.

Sober up or stop posting.
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That's f'n funny coming from you 27347017.

Sober up or stop posting.
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'get a life'..?
I'm posting.. he's posting.. you're posting..
What's the problem..?

He won't answer the hard questions..
I know a little about it.
I could explain it..

3 reactor core meltdowns, loss of containment, hydrogen explosions,
radioactive plume, atmospheric transport, fallout, air/land/ocean contamination,
children with thyroid lumps, continual burning of radioactive debris,
lies at every turn, shills out the ass,
missing or manipulated monitor data, collusion, corruption, obfuscation...

And much, much more.