Sybils and Oracles...

you don`t until you discover man/men who mmake sense of what you know

I wish you luck on your task.

Concerning a starting point, the oracles more or less simultaneously manifested throughout different cultures.
This is akin to seeking the first Native American or the first Chinese person. So if you're looking for the first oracle, you might want to try looking for the oldest "Egyptian oracle tradition" or the oldest "Greek oracle tradition". Perhaps then you can narrow your results and decipher your findings easier.

I do too Luna :D Thank you for that post

I woke up today reflecting on the sinkholes. The process of Sublimation in relation to the sinkholes. How this changes the earth, but the unseen layers, deeper strata. How we only see it when we see the actual sink hole on a video camera or TV, through imagery, and so forth. When I was thinking of this I envisioned the painting that depicts the oracle that is sitting on the three-legged stole that sits over a crack in the ground with gasses coming up. Sublimation isthe process of a solid (ice) changing directly into a gas (water vapor), or water vapor changing directly into ice, at the same temperature, without ever going through the liquid state.

i had a dream last nite

that i flew into an area where a woman was standing alone

i sheathed my sword and asked her if she needed a ride

she said yes she did

she grabbed hold with all her might

we flew high and fast

to the place of rest for those weary ones

she said thank you and i said no problem

i left her there with the others safe and sound

then i woke up all sweaty around my neck

could that be considered an oracle perhaps?

or just a strange dream from some unknown occurrence

from some where in time and space

i dunno it was fun though

good luck on your search

Already I found some good stuff Luna! lol

From this notion arises the idea of being inhabited by a deity. The Greeks termed
this state of bodily inspiration enthousiasmos,” literally “in-godness,”
the inhabitation of a god. The usage of this term implies the physical presence of a
god , which takes place “insideThe “inside” in this case is the body of
the prophetess. Prophecy is a physical experience. It happens upon and within the body.
Both divine and human identities are contained within the prophetess’ body—and
because they both inhabit the same space, the prophetess’ body becomes a contested
space, a battleground. The battle waged is not just for control of the body, or even the
life of the prophetess—it is for her very identity, and its right to exist unencumbered in
her body.

Anon.: El Cant de la Sibilla - Sibilla Catalane



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To offer sound and tone to the words.

I don't know exactly...Did you get the feeling she was? Did she have anything else to share with you? Does sound like a fun dream :) Thank you AC!

...very interesting AC...I was trying to look for a pic of what you were describing but couldn't find one...can you explain further your thoughts on this? Thank you :)

It is an Oil on Canvas entitled: Priestess of Delphi.

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Recent geological investigations have shown that gas emissions from a geologic chasm in the earth could have inspired the Delphic Oracle to "connect with the divine." Some researchers suggest the possibility that ethylene gas caused the Pythia's state of inspiration. However, Lehoux argues[4] that ethylene is "impossible" and benzene is "crucially underdetermined." Others argue instead that methane might have been the gas emitted from the chasm, or CO2 and H2S, arguing that the chasm itself might have been a seismic ground rupture,[5][6] although this idea has been challenged by scholars such as Joseph Fontenrose and Lisa Maurizio, who argue that the ancient sources uniformly represent the Pythia speaking intelligibly, and giving prophecies in her own voice.[7]

She then descended into the adyton (Greek for "inaccessible") and mounted her tripod seat, holding laurel leaves and a dish of Kassotis spring water into which she gazed.

From the aforementioned link on Pythia:

The Laurel was said to give visionary powers and as such the Delphic Oracle used to chew the Laurel leaves to induce visionary powers.

Does anyone have any information at all about these subjects? such as who is the oldest ever recorded Sybil?

I did find this...but I know there has to be other information out there...

The most fascinating of all Sibyls lived in Cumae (now called Cuma), the first Greek colony founded in Italy, located about twenty miles West of Naples in "the volcanic region near Vesuvius, where the whole country is cleft with chasms from which sulphurous flames arise, while the ground is shaken with pent-up vapors, and mysterious sounds issue from the bowels of the earth." 4 The Sibyl who was also known as Amalthaea made her home in a grotto in this tempestuous land -- a grotto that can be visited even today -- and there she would write her prognostications on leaves and spread them at one of the hundred mouths to her cave, allowing them to be picked up and read -- or scattered by the winds to be seen no more, whichever came first, as Virgil tells us in his Aeneid:

Arriv'd at Cumae, when you view the flood
Of black Avernus, and the sounding wood,
The mad prophetic Sibyl you shall find,
Dark in a cave, and on a rock reclin'd.
She sings the fates, and, in her frantic fits,
The notes and names, inscrib'd, to leafs commits.
What she commits to leafs, in order laid,
Before the cavern's entrance are display'd:
Unmov'd they lie; but, if a blast of wind
Without, or vapors issue from behind,
The leafs are borne aloft in liquid air,
And she resumes no more her museful care,
Nor gathers from the rocks her scatter'd verse,
Nor sets in order what the winds disperse.
Thus, many not succeeding, most upbraid
The madness of the visionary maid,
And with loud curses leave the mystic shade.


In the Aeneid, too, she gives Aeneas a tour of the infernal regions which are entered into in the land she inhabited (this story is the reason for Dante's having chosen Virgil as his guide in "The Divine Comedy"). After this tour of the underworld, they ascend again, and the Sibyl tells the story of how she came to be hundreds of years old. From chapter 25 of Bullfinch's book:

As Aeneas and the Sibyl pursued their way back to earth, he said to her, "Whether thou be a goddess or a mortal beloved by the gods, by me thou shalt always be held in reverence. When I reach the upper air, I will cause a temple to be built to thy honor, and will myself bring offerings."

"I am no goddess," said the Sibyl; "I have no claim to sacrifice or offering. I am mortal; yet if I could have accepted the love of Apollo, I might have been immortal. He promised me the fulfilment of my wish, if I would consent to be his. I took a handful of sand, and holding it forth, said, 'Grant me to see as many birthdays as there are sand-grains in my hand.'

"Unluckily I forgot to ask for enduring youth. This also he would have granted, could I have accepted his love, but offended at my refusal, he allowed me to grow old. My youth and youthful strength fled long ago. I have lived seven hundred years, and to equal the number of the sand-grains, I have still to see three hundred springs and three hundred harvests. My body shrinks up as years increase, and in time, I shall be lost to sight, but my voice will remain, and future ages will respect my sayings."
An ancient woman doomed to live a thousand years, but without youth, shrinking with age each year until nothing is left of her but her voice -- a voice which some say is kept in a jar in the cave, and that others say one can still hear there in her Cumaean grotto.

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No. That is where you are with it. Not we.

Pardon me.

I thought we were having a conversation.

At room temperature and standard pressure, methane is a colorless, odorless gas...

The fifth element of Flatulence.

Lol that says something about my chemistry level. Farting fire Ice and making the Fantastic Four the Fantastic Five would be awesome though.