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awesome thread - we are said to be reborn in the orion nebula.
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awesome thread - we are said to be reborn in the orion nebula.
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Thank you and I think we really owe the reemergence of this Orion Nebula to Danny Wilten.

His book was awesome and I have a new appreciation for the architecture and art of the 16th and 17th century Vatican Churches.

I am no supporter of the Catholic Church per say but it would be irresponsible not test and review everything on the road to understanding our origin and destiny.
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You, think...the Catholic Church is the seat of Satan. They are the anti-Christ. The Beast referered to in these verses is the Catholic Church.

Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
Rev 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
Rev 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
Rev 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?


Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

Those 42 months (1260 days)equates to the 1260 years the Catholic Church ruled Europe, approx. 557 AD to 1789 AD. The deadly wound was inflicted during the French Revolution's Reign of Terror until 1929 when the wound was healed and now the world is restoring quthority to the beast as has been prophesied. The U.S. has picked up that torch and is furthering the power of the Beast.
 Quoting: Nobody... 967366

Finally someone gets it. The RCC or the Vatican or the Papacy is the 1st beast system, little horn power. No other system has met the criteria for this but them.
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You, think...the Catholic Church is the seat of Satan. They are the anti-Christ. The Beast referered to in these verses is the Catholic Church.

Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
Rev 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
Rev 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
Rev 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?


Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

Those 42 months (1260 days)equates to the 1260 years the Catholic Church ruled Europe, approx. 557 AD to 1789 AD. The deadly wound was inflicted during the French Revolution's Reign of Terror until 1929 when the wound was healed and now the world is restoring quthority to the beast as has been prophesied. The U.S. has picked up that torch and is furthering the power of the Beast.
 Quoting: Nobody... 967366

Finally someone gets it. The RCC or the Vatican or the Papacy is the 1st beast system, little horn power. No other system has met the criteria for this but them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4223094


You might be right; but, this thread is about the artist who painted their vision of the Orion Nebula. It really is not about the Church per say.

You should be asking yourself HOW did these artist SEE the ORION nebula? As well as the Sumerians and the Egyptians...
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You, think...the Catholic Church is the seat of Satan. They are the anti-Christ. The Beast referered to in these verses is the Catholic Church.

Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
Rev 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
Rev 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
Rev 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?


Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

Those 42 months (1260 days)equates to the 1260 years the Catholic Church ruled Europe, approx. 557 AD to 1789 AD. The deadly wound was inflicted during the French Revolution's Reign of Terror until 1929 when the wound was healed and now the world is restoring quthority to the beast as has been prophesied. The U.S. has picked up that torch and is furthering the power of the Beast.
 Quoting: Nobody... 967366

Finally someone gets it. The RCC or the Vatican or the Papacy is the 1st beast system, little horn power. No other system has met the criteria for this but them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4223094


You might be right; but, this thread is about the artist who painted their vision of the Orion Nebula. It really is not about the Church per say.

You should be asking yourself HOW did these artist SEE the ORION nebula? As well as the Sumerians and the Egyptians...
 Quoting: M.E.

It is the part of the galaxy that all people on earth can visually see at the same time when Jesus returns. This information as you said is talked about in many religions and denominations.
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You, think...the Catholic Church is the seat of Satan. They are the anti-Christ. The Beast referered to in these verses is the Catholic Church.

Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
Rev 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
Rev 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
Rev 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?


Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

Those 42 months (1260 days)equates to the 1260 years the Catholic Church ruled Europe, approx. 557 AD to 1789 AD. The deadly wound was inflicted during the French Revolution's Reign of Terror until 1929 when the wound was healed and now the world is restoring quthority to the beast as has been prophesied. The U.S. has picked up that torch and is furthering the power of the Beast.
 Quoting: Nobody... 967366

Finally someone gets it. The RCC or the Vatican or the Papacy is the 1st beast system, little horn power. No other system has met the criteria for this but them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4223094


You might be right; but, this thread is about the artist who painted their vision of the Orion Nebula. It really is not about the Church per say.

You should be asking yourself HOW did these artist SEE the ORION nebula? As well as the Sumerians and the Egyptians...
 Quoting: M.E.

It is the part of the galaxy that all people on earth can visually see at the same time when Jesus returns. This information as you said is talked about in many religions and denominations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4223094



You know I never realized everyone can see this part of the galaxy. Thanks for making me think of this. Also, Google has this part of Google Space blocked out. Is this true and is there a reason for this?

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You, think...the Catholic Church is the seat of Satan. They are the anti-Christ. The Beast referered to in these verses is the Catholic Church.

Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
Rev 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
Rev 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
Rev 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?


Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

Those 42 months (1260 days)equates to the 1260 years the Catholic Church ruled Europe, approx. 557 AD to 1789 AD. The deadly wound was inflicted during the French Revolution's Reign of Terror until 1929 when the wound was healed and now the world is restoring quthority to the beast as has been prophesied. The U.S. has picked up that torch and is furthering the power of the Beast.
 Quoting: Nobody... 967366

Finally someone gets it. The RCC or the Vatican or the Papacy is the 1st beast system, little horn power. No other system has met the criteria for this but them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4223094


You might be right; but, this thread is about the artist who painted their vision of the Orion Nebula. It really is not about the Church per say.

You should be asking yourself HOW did these artist SEE the ORION nebula? As well as the Sumerians and the Egyptians...
 Quoting: M.E.


Isaiah 13:10
(10) For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.

Notice that while describing the “coming” of Jesus, Isaiah sees that the “constellations” are also affected by this coming. What does this Hebrew word “kesiyl” translated “constellations” mean? Strong’s Hebrew Definitions describes it as follows:

kesîyl
The same as H3684; any notable constellation; specifically Orion (as if a burly one): - constellation, Orion.

Brown Driver Briggs, a Hebrew Lexicon, describes it like this:

BDB Definition:

1) constellation, Orion
1a) Orion, the constellation
1b) constellation (general)
Part of Speech: noun masculine

It looks like the primary definition of this word is “Orion.” Brown places this as the number one definition (1 and 1a), while Strong’s says that this is the “specific” meaning of this Hebrew word. When the Septuagint (LXX) translates this verse into the Greek language, it translated kesiyl as literally “Orion.” While Isaiah does not specifically say that the Lord will come “through” the constellation of Orion, he certiantly mentions it within the “context” of his “coming.
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You, think...the Catholic Church is the seat of Satan. They are the anti-Christ. The Beast referered to in these verses is the Catholic Church.

Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
Rev 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
Rev 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
Rev 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?


Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

Those 42 months (1260 days)equates to the 1260 years the Catholic Church ruled Europe, approx. 557 AD to 1789 AD. The deadly wound was inflicted during the French Revolution's Reign of Terror until 1929 when the wound was healed and now the world is restoring quthority to the beast as has been prophesied. The U.S. has picked up that torch and is furthering the power of the Beast.
 Quoting: Nobody... 967366

Finally someone gets it. The RCC or the Vatican or the Papacy is the 1st beast system, little horn power. No other system has met the criteria for this but them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4223094


You might be right; but, this thread is about the artist who painted their vision of the Orion Nebula. It really is not about the Church per say.

You should be asking yourself HOW did these artist SEE the ORION nebula? As well as the Sumerians and the Egyptians...
 Quoting: M.E.


Isaiah 13:10
(10) For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.

Notice that while describing the “coming” of Jesus, Isaiah sees that the “constellations” are also affected by this coming. What does this Hebrew word “kesiyl” translated “constellations” mean? Strong’s Hebrew Definitions describes it as follows:

kesîyl
The same as H3684; any notable constellation; specifically Orion (as if a burly one): - constellation, Orion.

Brown Driver Briggs, a Hebrew Lexicon, describes it like this:

BDB Definition:

1) constellation, Orion
1a) Orion, the constellation
1b) constellation (general)
Part of Speech: noun masculine

It looks like the primary definition of this word is “Orion.” Brown places this as the number one definition (1 and 1a), while Strong’s says that this is the “specific” meaning of this Hebrew word. When the Septuagint (LXX) translates this verse into the Greek language, it translated kesiyl as literally “Orion.” While Isaiah does not specifically say that the Lord will come “through” the constellation of Orion, he certiantly mentions it within the “context” of his “coming.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4223094


Wow! That was some EXCELLENT observation, Scripture and references for Orion!

Many people argue the Bible is not to be taken literally but the writers certainly reference a physical location in space.

Do you believe we will see an "army" from the direction of Orion. I vaguely remember an Isaiah scripture that says God's army is coming from a far away planet or Heavenly place.
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You, think...the Catholic Church is the seat of Satan. They are the anti-Christ. The Beast referered to in these verses is the Catholic Church.

Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
Rev 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
Rev 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
Rev 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?


Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

Those 42 months (1260 days)equates to the 1260 years the Catholic Church ruled Europe, approx. 557 AD to 1789 AD. The deadly wound was inflicted during the French Revolution's Reign of Terror until 1929 when the wound was healed and now the world is restoring quthority to the beast as has been prophesied. The U.S. has picked up that torch and is furthering the power of the Beast.
 Quoting: Nobody... 967366

Finally someone gets it. The RCC or the Vatican or the Papacy is the 1st beast system, little horn power. No other system has met the criteria for this but them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4223094


You might be right; but, this thread is about the artist who painted their vision of the Orion Nebula. It really is not about the Church per say.

You should be asking yourself HOW did these artist SEE the ORION nebula? As well as the Sumerians and the Egyptians...
 Quoting: M.E.


Isaiah 13:10
(10) For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.

Notice that while describing the “coming” of Jesus, Isaiah sees that the “constellations” are also affected by this coming. What does this Hebrew word “kesiyl” translated “constellations” mean? Strong’s Hebrew Definitions describes it as follows:

kesîyl
The same as H3684; any notable constellation; specifically Orion (as if a burly one): - constellation, Orion.

Brown Driver Briggs, a Hebrew Lexicon, describes it like this:

BDB Definition:

1) constellation, Orion
1a) Orion, the constellation
1b) constellation (general)
Part of Speech: noun masculine

It looks like the primary definition of this word is “Orion.” Brown places this as the number one definition (1 and 1a), while Strong’s says that this is the “specific” meaning of this Hebrew word. When the Septuagint (LXX) translates this verse into the Greek language, it translated kesiyl as literally “Orion.” While Isaiah does not specifically say that the Lord will come “through” the constellation of Orion, he certiantly mentions it within the “context” of his “coming.
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Kesiyl, Kesil, etc, also mean " Fool " tomato
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Finally someone gets it. The RCC or the Vatican or the Papacy is the 1st beast system, little horn power. No other system has met the criteria for this but them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4223094


You might be right; but, this thread is about the artist who painted their vision of the Orion Nebula. It really is not about the Church per say.

You should be asking yourself HOW did these artist SEE the ORION nebula? As well as the Sumerians and the Egyptians...
 Quoting: M.E.

It is the part of the galaxy that all people on earth can visually see at the same time when Jesus returns. This information as you said is talked about in many religions and denominations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4223094



You know I never realized everyone can see this part of the galaxy. Thanks for making me think of this. Also, Google has this part of Google Space blocked out. Is this true and is there a reason for this?
 Quoting: M.E.

I don't know their reason but it don't matter cause when Jesus comes back they won't block His coming. Your topic is very intriguing and if you know the Vatican is of the Satan synagogue than one should never be surprised of their knowledge or special rites, names they give to so called men and inventions.
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You might be right; but, this thread is about the artist who painted their vision of the Orion Nebula. It really is not about the Church per say.

You should be asking yourself HOW did these artist SEE the ORION nebula? As well as the Sumerians and the Egyptians...
 Quoting: M.E.

It is the part of the galaxy that all people on earth can visually see at the same time when Jesus returns. This information as you said is talked about in many religions and denominations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4223094



You know I never realized everyone can see this part of the galaxy. Thanks for making me think of this. Also, Google has this part of Google Space blocked out. Is this true and is there a reason for this?
 Quoting: M.E.

I don't know their reason but it don't matter cause when Jesus comes back they won't block His coming. Your topic is very intriguing and if you know the Vatican is of the Satan synagogue than one should never be surprised of their knowledge or special rites, names they give to so called men and inventions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4223094


True indeed...
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Finally someone gets it. The RCC or the Vatican or the Papacy is the 1st beast system, little horn power. No other system has met the criteria for this but them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4223094


You might be right; but, this thread is about the artist who painted their vision of the Orion Nebula. It really is not about the Church per say.

You should be asking yourself HOW did these artist SEE the ORION nebula? As well as the Sumerians and the Egyptians...
 Quoting: M.E.


Isaiah 13:10
(10) For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.

Notice that while describing the “coming” of Jesus, Isaiah sees that the “constellations” are also affected by this coming. What does this Hebrew word “kesiyl” translated “constellations” mean? Strong’s Hebrew Definitions describes it as follows:

kesîyl
The same as H3684; any notable constellation; specifically Orion (as if a burly one): - constellation, Orion.

Brown Driver Briggs, a Hebrew Lexicon, describes it like this:

BDB Definition:

1) constellation, Orion
1a) Orion, the constellation
1b) constellation (general)
Part of Speech: noun masculine

It looks like the primary definition of this word is “Orion.” Brown places this as the number one definition (1 and 1a), while Strong’s says that this is the “specific” meaning of this Hebrew word. When the Septuagint (LXX) translates this verse into the Greek language, it translated kesiyl as literally “Orion.” While Isaiah does not specifically say that the Lord will come “through” the constellation of Orion, he certiantly mentions it within the “context” of his “coming.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4223094


Wow! That was some EXCELLENT observation, Scripture and references for Orion!

Many people argue the Bible is not to be taken literally but the writers certainly reference a physical location in space.

Do you believe we will see an "army" from the direction of Orion. I vaguely remember an Isaiah scripture that says God's army is coming from a far away planet or Heavenly place.
 Quoting: M.E.


The Bible should always be read in context and when you come across scripture that seems to contradict what the Prophet/Apostle is saying than take all verses in that topic and dissect it. For instance many scholars and scoffers are on the fence about Paul, but when you break down Paul's writings it is in accordance to scripture. As far as the "army you speak of", I'm assuming the second coming of Christ which the skies will be filled with millions of angels. The Orion system seems very plausible for His return but again nobody can be 100% correct on this but I know people's hearts will fail them because they were not in Christ at this moment.
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You might be right; but, this thread is about the artist who painted their vision of the Orion Nebula. It really is not about the Church per say.

You should be asking yourself HOW did these artist SEE the ORION nebula? As well as the Sumerians and the Egyptians...
 Quoting: M.E.


Isaiah 13:10
(10) For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.

Notice that while describing the “coming” of Jesus, Isaiah sees that the “constellations” are also affected by this coming. What does this Hebrew word “kesiyl” translated “constellations” mean? Strong’s Hebrew Definitions describes it as follows:

kesîyl
The same as H3684; any notable constellation; specifically Orion (as if a burly one): - constellation, Orion.

Brown Driver Briggs, a Hebrew Lexicon, describes it like this:

BDB Definition:

1) constellation, Orion
1a) Orion, the constellation
1b) constellation (general)
Part of Speech: noun masculine

It looks like the primary definition of this word is “Orion.” Brown places this as the number one definition (1 and 1a), while Strong’s says that this is the “specific” meaning of this Hebrew word. When the Septuagint (LXX) translates this verse into the Greek language, it translated kesiyl as literally “Orion.” While Isaiah does not specifically say that the Lord will come “through” the constellation of Orion, he certiantly mentions it within the “context” of his “coming.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4223094


Wow! That was some EXCELLENT observation, Scripture and references for Orion!

Many people argue the Bible is not to be taken literally but the writers certainly reference a physical location in space.

Do you believe we will see an "army" from the direction of Orion. I vaguely remember an Isaiah scripture that says God's army is coming from a far away planet or Heavenly place.
 Quoting: M.E.


The Bible should always be read in context and when you come across scripture that seems to contradict what the Prophet/Apostle is saying than take all verses in that topic and dissect it. For instance many scholars and scoffers are on the fence about Paul, but when you break down Paul's writings it is in accordance to scripture. As far as the "army you speak of", I'm assuming the second coming of Christ which the skies will be filled with millions of angels. The Orion system seems very plausible for His return but again nobody can be 100% correct on this but I know people's hearts will fail them because they were not in Christ at this moment.
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All your words feel true. I thank you for this insight.
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You might be right; but, this thread is about the artist who painted their vision of the Orion Nebula. It really is not about the Church per say.

You should be asking yourself HOW did these artist SEE the ORION nebula? As well as the Sumerians and the Egyptians...
 Quoting: M.E.


Isaiah 13:10
(10) For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.

Notice that while describing the “coming” of Jesus, Isaiah sees that the “constellations” are also affected by this coming. What does this Hebrew word “kesiyl” translated “constellations” mean? Strong’s Hebrew Definitions describes it as follows:

kesîyl
The same as H3684; any notable constellation; specifically Orion (as if a burly one): - constellation, Orion.

Brown Driver Briggs, a Hebrew Lexicon, describes it like this:

BDB Definition:

1) constellation, Orion
1a) Orion, the constellation
1b) constellation (general)
Part of Speech: noun masculine

It looks like the primary definition of this word is “Orion.” Brown places this as the number one definition (1 and 1a), while Strong’s says that this is the “specific” meaning of this Hebrew word. When the Septuagint (LXX) translates this verse into the Greek language, it translated kesiyl as literally “Orion.” While Isaiah does not specifically say that the Lord will come “through” the constellation of Orion, he certiantly mentions it within the “context” of his “coming.
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Wow! That was some EXCELLENT observation, Scripture and references for Orion!

Many people argue the Bible is not to be taken literally but the writers certainly reference a physical location in space.

Do you believe we will see an "army" from the direction of Orion. I vaguely remember an Isaiah scripture that says God's army is coming from a far away planet or Heavenly place.
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The Bible should always be read in context and when you come across scripture that seems to contradict what the Prophet/Apostle is saying than take all verses in that topic and dissect it. For instance many scholars and scoffers are on the fence about Paul, but when you break down Paul's writings it is in accordance to scripture. As far as the "army you speak of", I'm assuming the second coming of Christ which the skies will be filled with millions of angels. The Orion system seems very plausible for His return but again nobody can be 100% correct on this but I know people's hearts will fail them because they were not in Christ at this moment.
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On a lighter note I have always imagined when Jesus returns with His army. This is the song that He will sing with the Angels singing the background.



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Isaiah 13:10
(10) For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.

Notice that while describing the “coming” of Jesus, Isaiah sees that the “constellations” are also affected by this coming. What does this Hebrew word “kesiyl” translated “constellations” mean? Strong’s Hebrew Definitions describes it as follows:

kesîyl
The same as H3684; any notable constellation; specifically Orion (as if a burly one): - constellation, Orion.

Brown Driver Briggs, a Hebrew Lexicon, describes it like this:

BDB Definition:

1) constellation, Orion
1a) Orion, the constellation
1b) constellation (general)
Part of Speech: noun masculine

It looks like the primary definition of this word is “Orion.” Brown places this as the number one definition (1 and 1a), while Strong’s says that this is the “specific” meaning of this Hebrew word. When the Septuagint (LXX) translates this verse into the Greek language, it translated kesiyl as literally “Orion.” While Isaiah does not specifically say that the Lord will come “through” the constellation of Orion, he certiantly mentions it within the “context” of his “coming.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4223094


Wow! That was some EXCELLENT observation, Scripture and references for Orion!

Many people argue the Bible is not to be taken literally but the writers certainly reference a physical location in space.

Do you believe we will see an "army" from the direction of Orion. I vaguely remember an Isaiah scripture that says God's army is coming from a far away planet or Heavenly place.
 Quoting: M.E.


The Bible should always be read in context and when you come across scripture that seems to contradict what the Prophet/Apostle is saying than take all verses in that topic and dissect it. For instance many scholars and scoffers are on the fence about Paul, but when you break down Paul's writings it is in accordance to scripture. As far as the "army you speak of", I'm assuming the second coming of Christ which the skies will be filled with millions of angels. The Orion system seems very plausible for His return but again nobody can be 100% correct on this but I know people's hearts will fail them because they were not in Christ at this moment.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4223094


On a lighter note I have always imagined when Jesus returns with His army. This is the song that He will sing with the Angels singing the background.


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His coming will be loud and visible, and righteous. He wishes none would perish it will be as trumpets sound in battle. Many will hide from His appearance in rocks and caves and will beg for sudden death but it won't happen. I can assure you and I know your video was rhetorical but judgement for mankind will not take on any earthly form of music.
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Orion is the Realm of Osiris.
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Wow! That was some EXCELLENT observation, Scripture and references for Orion!

Many people argue the Bible is not to be taken literally but the writers certainly reference a physical location in space.

Do you believe we will see an "army" from the direction of Orion. I vaguely remember an Isaiah scripture that says God's army is coming from a far away planet or Heavenly place.
 Quoting: M.E.


The Bible should always be read in context and when you come across scripture that seems to contradict what the Prophet/Apostle is saying than take all verses in that topic and dissect it. For instance many scholars and scoffers are on the fence about Paul, but when you break down Paul's writings it is in accordance to scripture. As far as the "army you speak of", I'm assuming the second coming of Christ which the skies will be filled with millions of angels. The Orion system seems very plausible for His return but again nobody can be 100% correct on this but I know people's hearts will fail them because they were not in Christ at this moment.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4223094


On a lighter note I have always imagined when Jesus returns with His army. This is the song that He will sing with the Angels singing the background.


 Quoting: M.E.


His coming will be loud and visible, and righteous. He wishes none would perish it will be as trumpets sound in battle. Many will hide from His appearance in rocks and caves and will beg for sudden death but it won't happen. I can assure you and I know your video was rhetorical but judgement for mankind will not take on any earthly form of music.
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I agree and you get me! ;)
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very interesting guys....
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Orion is the Realm of Osiris.
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Yes, I saw this too; but, I also so the Sumerian God image as well! AND I saw a Red Dragon. Looks like EVERYONE was looking into the EXACT same place in space.
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Orion is the Realm of Osiris.
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Yes, I saw this too; but, I also so the Sumerian God image as well! AND I saw a Red Dragon. Looks like EVERYONE was looking into the EXACT same place in space.
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The traditional name of Alpha Draconis, Thuban, means "head of the serpent"

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Orion is the Realm of Osiris.
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Yes, I saw this too; but, I also so the Sumerian God image as well! AND I saw a Red Dragon. Looks like EVERYONE was looking into the EXACT same place in space.
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The traditional name of Alpha Draconis, Thuban, means "head of the serpent"

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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We would have to see Hubble Telescope images in the infrared spectrum and see if there are images like from Orion...
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I just secured a date to interview Danny Wilten regarding his book "Orion in the Vatican."

It will be on Nov. 22, 2012 at 7:30 (EST)

Any interest???

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He sent me a message and said this to me:

"I have a lot more discoveries since then and things seem to be falling together in my understanding of things. So interesting the way the universe communicates when you begin to take in the symbolism with an open mind. It has given me things I would not trust any man to..."

I want to call him now; but, I must save it for the interview.
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I totally fumbled the date for the interview with Danny Wilten. My wife brought to my attention the day I selected is Thanksgiving. Wives really are smarter! I will never admit that to her. Thank goodness she is not a member here! ;)

I will reschedule and then check with my wife!
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Hello GLP Folk,

[link to revelationnow.net]

I just read a book called "Orion in the Vatican" and it really opened my eyes to our connection to Orion and Pleiades.

It showed me evidence Vatican artist like Michelangelo were basically painting their impressions of the Orion Nebula while showing us the home of God.

It was one of the best books I have read in sometime and in my opinion provides proof ALL cultures recognize Orion as the throne of God. This should make many people question their beliefs.

I sure would like to hear if anyone else has encountered similar research because I would like to study it.

Thanks to all who read this!

Kind regards,
ME
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Thread: Is this possibly the very earliest prophecy of the Son of God (Jesus) found inscripted on an artifact that dates approx 12,000 yrs old?

Advance to 7:41 for an analysis of the artifact. On the bottom of the piece is an inscription in writing that predates sanskrit...at 8:14...

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Hello GLP Folk,

[link to revelationnow.net]

I just read a book called "Orion in the Vatican" and it really opened my eyes to our connection to Orion and Pleiades.

It showed me evidence Vatican artist like Michelangelo were basically painting their impressions of the Orion Nebula while showing us the home of God.

It was one of the best books I have read in sometime and in my opinion provides proof ALL cultures recognize Orion as the throne of God. This should make many people question their beliefs.

I sure would like to hear if anyone else has encountered similar research because I would like to study it.

Thanks to all who read this!

Kind regards,
ME
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Thread: Is this possibly the very earliest prophecy of the Son of God (Jesus) found inscripted on an artifact that dates approx 12,000 yrs old?

Advance to 7:41 for an analysis of the artifact. On the bottom of the piece is an inscription in writing that predates sanskrit...at 8:14...


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Wow! Nice find Salt! It is obvious the human mystery of our origin is linked to Orion. If all of the prophecies are correct we will not be in the "dark" forever! I will watch this video in its entirety with a cup of coffee in the morning. Thanks for the insight.
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Hello GLP Folk,

[link to revelationnow.net]

I just read a book called "Orion in the Vatican" and it really opened my eyes to our connection to Orion and Pleiades.

It showed me evidence Vatican artist like Michelangelo were basically painting their impressions of the Orion Nebula while showing us the home of God.

It was one of the best books I have read in sometime and in my opinion provides proof ALL cultures recognize Orion as the throne of God. This should make many people question their beliefs.

I sure would like to hear if anyone else has encountered similar research because I would like to study it.

Thanks to all who read this!

Kind regards,
ME
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Thread: Is this possibly the very earliest prophecy of the Son of God (Jesus) found inscripted on an artifact that dates approx 12,000 yrs old?

Advance to 7:41 for an analysis of the artifact. On the bottom of the piece is an inscription in writing that predates sanskrit...at 8:14...


 Quoting: Salt


Wow! Nice find Salt! It is obvious the human mystery of our origin is linked to Orion. If all of the prophecies are correct we will not be in the "dark" forever! I will watch this video in its entirety with a cup of coffee in the morning. Thanks for the insight.
 Quoting: M.E.


hf
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Ok, now we have a final date to interview the author of "Orion in the Vatican."

It will be Friday, November 23, 2012 at 7:30 pm (EST). I hope you will listen! :)

[link to revelationnow.net]

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