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Message Subject Ex-marine's NDE hell testimony
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Let me also add, there's been several atheists, that also saw hell. Helping to affirm we need to accept Jesus.

Also, there's even been two pastors, that also seen hell. After the NDE both pastors, state one needs to not only accept Jesus to be saved and avoid hell, but also, you have to actually live a Christian life, that's in harmony with the Bible, versus claiming to be a Christian and then living a double-life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26861263


Excellent propoganda thread.... Please post the numerous NDE stories of non-christians who had no 'hell' experiences and were greeted by their deceased loved ones, as well as participated in their own life-reviews in which they were the judge of their life experiences.

Not going to mention those in this thread are ya? Doesn't fit in with the dualistic heaven/hell misconception and the lie that you need to be a Christian to experience a pleasant afterlife.

Carry on.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Show me a non-Christian NDE, that went to heaven, and came across verdical information regarding their loved ones?

Because I don't know of any, if you do, prove me wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26861263


There are NUMEROUS accounts of this featured in the Biography channel show I Survived : Beyond & Back. You can find those episodes on YouTube. Then you can look into the work of Dr. Moody, who is one of the most respected NDE researches in the field. Then there is that little thing called reincarnation that you conveniently choose to ignore which is confirmed by investigations of children's past lives conducted by Doctor Jim Tucker of the University of Virginia and Doctor Ian Stevenson. There are numerous books on NDE's that you can read and also learn this information that does not support your myopic and dualistic view of the afterlife. You can even go listen to the interview with that Neurosurgeon who recently wrote his book in which he states that he doesn't believe there is any 'hell' and he even explains what he feels some of these people are seeing/experiencing in their NDE recollections.

Your problem is that you are so emotionally tied up in your assumptions that the cognitive dissonance of all this conflicting information to yoru viewpoint is too much for you to bare, so you disregard it. Free your mind by opening it.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


"I'm a surgical nurse at a hospital in Phoenix, Arizona. We have lots of near-death cases there, and almost all of them are the negative kind. You know what I mean people who wind up in hell!"


I looked at several from those sources, you mention and don't remeber seeing a single NDE case, in which veridical info is found specifically regarding the deceased. Show me a few specific cases. I'm also very well aware of Moody's work.

I already touched upon reincarnation in another thread, in which you read, but evidently you don't have a good memory and have already forgotten. I guess you're also going to ignore this.

"I'm a surgical nurse at a hospital in Phoenix, Arizona. We have lots of near-death cases there, and almost all of them are the negative kind. You know what I mean people who wind up in hell!"

Source: P.M.H. Atwater - 92 Journal of Near-Death Studies Vol.10, No.3

“A heart specialist from Chattanooga, Tennessee, has just finished a study of more than 100 patients brought back to life after being clinically dead. The bad news is that over half of the patients had a perfectly appalling time, walking through dimly-lit caverns and seeing fiendish figures brandishing pitchforks beside a smoking, sulphurous lake surrounded by moaning bodies. The doctor now firmly believes hell exists. Reluctantly, he said, I have come to the conclusion it may not be safe to die."

Source: May | June 1979 issue of Parapsychology Review
 
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