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Can Christians serve in the military ?

 
pendulum
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Didn’t Jesus command us to love, bless, pray for and do good to our enemies? Didn’t he command us to turn the other cheek, never “resist” an evildoer (Mt. 5:39), never return evil with evil but rather to always return evil with good? Aren’t we supposed to give water to our enemies when they’re thirsty and feed them when they’re hungry? (e.g. Rom.12:17-21). Didn’t Jesus rebuke Peter for using the sword, even though his self-defense would be considered justifiable by common sense? Aren’t we commanded to follow Jesus’ example of refusing to use the power available to him to defend himself, choosing instead to die at the hands of his enemies and on behalf of his enemies?

In this light, how can we justify killing our enemies “if we have to“?

And notice, there’s no “exception clause” in any of the New Testament’s teaching about loving our enemies.

So do you think Christians can serve in the military? I believe it’s a Christians duty is to serve their country, aid the wounded, defend the oppressed, protect their families, stand for truth and justice, and kill when we have to. Do you agree?
Libra II
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11/08/2012 03:12 PM
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I agree, but I'm not a Christian, so....
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11/08/2012 03:15 PM
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Yes because Jesus was just kidding around with all that love your enemies stuff. Turning your cheek is an obvious joke.
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11/08/2012 03:17 PM
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(Is this about DADT?)
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11/08/2012 03:34 PM
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Consider the military Satan's Army.
Libra II
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11/08/2012 03:53 PM
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Yes because Jesus was just kidding around with all that love your enemies stuff. Turning your cheek is an obvious joke.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24518617


Maybe he actually enjoyed getting his butt cheeks spanked.
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11/08/2012 04:30 PM
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Re: Can Christians serve in the military ?
Can Christians serve in the military ?
 Quoting: pendulum 6458701


A better question is, can Christians, and everyone else, think for themselves?

Or do they need to be led by the nose by their religion?
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11/08/2012 04:38 PM
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Consider the military Satan's Army.
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bump
Anonymous Coward
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11/08/2012 04:39 PM
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Not in the U.S. military.
AtsuiPanda
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and yet im sure 80% of people serving are christians o.o
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Can Christians serve in the military ?
 Quoting: pendulum 6458701


A better question is, can Christians, and everyone else, think for themselves?

Or do they need to be led by the nose by their religion?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27327216


this, jesus was a good man like many others but sometimes you have to fight.
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Can Christians serve in the military ?
 Quoting: pendulum 6458701


A better question is, can Christians, and everyone else, think for themselves?

Or do they need to be led by the nose by their religion?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27327216


this, jesus was a good man like many others but sometimes you have to fight.
 Quoting: AtsuiPanda


Fight Jesus?
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Can Christians serve in the military ?
 Quoting: pendulum 6458701


A better question is, can Christians, and everyone else, think for themselves?

Or do they need to be led by the nose by their religion?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27327216


this, jesus was a good man like many others but sometimes you have to fight.
 Quoting: AtsuiPanda


Fight Jesus?
 Quoting: Libra II 1001450

No fight for your freedom and such, me personally i think this war is totally bs tho..
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and yet im sure 80% of people serving are christians o.o
 Quoting: AtsuiPanda


They're lied to. They have no idea the govn't is run by satanic psychopaths
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Can Christians serve in the military ?
 Quoting: pendulum 6458701


A better question is, can Christians, and everyone else, think for themselves?

Or do they need to be led by the nose by their religion?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27327216


this, jesus was a good man like many others but sometimes you have to fight.
 Quoting: AtsuiPanda


if anything i'd fight against the satanic NWO, not for the satanic NWO
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A better question is, can Christians, and everyone else, think for themselves?

Or do they need to be led by the nose by their religion?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27327216


this, jesus was a good man like many others but sometimes you have to fight.
 Quoting: AtsuiPanda


Fight Jesus?
 Quoting: Libra II 1001450

No fight for your freedom and such, me personally i think this war is totally bs tho..
 Quoting: AtsuiPanda


True! Let's fight for our freedom and such in the name of Jesus... Wait a minute, aren't we getting to where we started?
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11/08/2012 04:56 PM
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this, jesus was a good man like many others but sometimes you have to fight.
 Quoting: AtsuiPanda


Fight Jesus?
 Quoting: Libra II 1001450

No fight for your freedom and such, me personally i think this war is totally bs tho..
 Quoting: AtsuiPanda


True! Let's fight for our freedom and such in the name of Jesus... Wait a minute, aren't we getting to where we started?
 Quoting: Libra II 1001450


Foreign governments are not holding your freedoms hostage. Fight between jesus and obama would be epic.
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Fight Jesus?
 Quoting: Libra II 1001450

No fight for your freedom and such, me personally i think this war is totally bs tho..
 Quoting: AtsuiPanda


True! Let's fight for our freedom and such in the name of Jesus... Wait a minute, aren't we getting to where we started?
 Quoting: Libra II 1001450


Foreign governments are not holding your freedoms hostage. Fight between jesus and obama would be epic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25761338

A boxing match between Jesus and Obama?
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(KJV)Deuteronomy 5:17
Thou shalt not kill.

(KJV)Proverbs 24:17-18
Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth:

[18] Lest the Lord see it , and it displease him, and he turn away his wrath from him.

(KJV)Romans 12:17-21
Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men.
[18] If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

[19] Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

[20] Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.

[21] Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.


(KJV)Proverbs 22:24-26
Make no friendship with an angry man; and with a furious man thou shalt not go:
[25] Lest thou learn his ways, and get a snare to thy soul.

[26] Be not thou one of them that strike hands, or of them that are sureties for debts.


(KJV)Luke 3:11-17
He answereth and saith unto them, He that hath two coats, let him impart to him that hath none; and he that hath meat, let him do likewise.

[12] Then came also publicans to be baptized, and said unto him, Master, what shall we do?

[13] And he said unto them, Exact no more than that which is appointed you.

[14] And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, And what shall we do? And he said unto them, Do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely; and be content with your wages.

[15] And as the people were in expectation, and all men mused in their hearts of John, whether he were the Christ, or not;

[16] John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:

[17] Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable.
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Isaiah 9:6 KJV
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mark 16:16 KJV
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:38 KJV
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Romans 8:6-9 KJV
6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Matthew 15:8-9 KJV
8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Acts 5:29 KJV
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

"The biggest sign from God, to let us all know that man can never be God? Death." - Anonymous
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11/08/2012 05:22 PM
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A true Christian wouldn't join the military. Thou shalt not kill.
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11/08/2012 05:28 PM
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and yet im sure 80% of people serving are christians o.o
 Quoting: AtsuiPanda


They're lied to. They have no idea the govn't is run by satanic psychopaths
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26075182


Most are certainly NOT Christian. They are mostly young people who have not even found their way in life yet.

We are not born Christian. Most recruits are 17 to 23.

I know a guy who became Christian while in. They wouldnt allow him the 7th day Sabbath so he had to get out.
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11/08/2012 05:35 PM
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Lols a hole trough germany while floating like a tiny plate.
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No fight for your freedom and such, me personally i think this war is totally bs tho..
 Quoting: AtsuiPanda


True! Let's fight for our freedom and such in the name of Jesus... Wait a minute, aren't we getting to where we started?
 Quoting: Libra II 1001450


Foreign governments are not holding your freedoms hostage. Fight between jesus and obama would be epic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25761338

A boxing match between Jesus and Obama?
 Quoting: Libra II 1001450

Obama in the blue corner, and Jesus in the red. "Better dead than red."
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Let's see now - the song goes something like this:

Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
with the cross of Jesus going on before.
Christ, the royal Master, leads against the foe;
forward into battle see his banners go!
~~~~~~~~~


The First CHRISTIAN Crusade was the most successful from a military point of view. Accounts of this action are shocking. For example, historian Raymond of Agiles described the capture of Jerusalem by the Crusaders in 1099:

Some of our men cut off the heads of their enemies; others shot them with arrows, so that they fell from the towers; others tortured them longer by casting them into the flames. Piles of heads, hands and feet were to be seen in the streets of the city. It was necessary to pick one's way over the bodies of men and horses. But these were small matters compared to what happened at the temple of Solomon, a place where religious services ware ordinarily chanted. What happened there? If I tell the truth, it will exceed your powers of belief. So let it suffice to say this much at least, that in the temple and portico of Solomon, men rode in blood up to their knees and bridle reins.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~

So, go blow your brains out Christians!!
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11/08/2012 06:17 PM
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They shouldn't serve in the military. Jesus said to love your enemy and pray for them. Not to go and murder them. He also said if you live by the sword(gun,etc) you will die by it. Be in the world but don't be a part of it like Jesus said because the whole world lies in Satan's power. But not for long.
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A true Christian wouldn't join the military. Thou shalt not kill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19490298


Jehovah's Witnesses refuse to join the military. Many go to jail and in some countries they have killed them for this. But better to die than to take an innocent life. Anyone know of any other Christians who refuse to join the military in any country?
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Can Christians serve in the military ? YES
Should Christians serve in the military ? NO
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11/08/2012 06:24 PM
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It is the Christians duty to serve in the Military and oppose evil. What's the difference?

When a Christian is in the military, he kills to save lives and to protect peace and allow men the free choice to serve God.

When a Muslim is in the military, he kills to kill infidels and make those taken prisoner as slaves, to submit to the will of Allah or chop off with their heads.
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It is the Christians duty to serve in the Military and oppose evil. What's the difference?

When a Christian is in the military, he kills to save lives and to protect peace and allow men the free choice to serve God.

When a Muslim is in the military, he kills to kill infidels and make those taken prisoner as slaves, to submit to the will of Allah or chop off with their heads.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18308331


Paul, Peter, and the rest never served Rome's armies after finding God.

Serving today's military is to support world government, ultimately ran by Satan.

The wars in the middle east cause mass-emigration of Islam into the West -- the plan of the NWO, against Christians in the West.
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It is the Christians duty to serve in the Military and oppose evil. What's the difference?

When a Christian is in the military, he kills to save lives and to protect peace and allow men the free choice to serve God.

When a Muslim is in the military, he kills to kill infidels and make those taken prisoner as slaves, to submit to the will of Allah or chop off with their heads.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18308331


Paul, Peter, and the rest never served Rome's armies after finding God.

Serving today's military is to support world government, ultimately ran by Satan.

The wars in the middle east cause mass-emigration of Islam into the West -- the plan of the NWO, against Christians in the West.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27314176


The Paul and Peter bastards were looking ahead for a new Rome to fight for. You already got your new world fucking order. It's called Christianity.

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