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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26268975 11/08/2012 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Context Quoting: Vaellene This pericope begins with the Jews gathering around Jesus in the Temple portico, asking Him to tell them in plain terms if He is the Messiah (v. 24). Jesus answers by giving two reasons they should already know the answer to this question: His words and His works (v. 25). Jesus says that the reason they do not know He is the Messiah is not because He has failed to speak clearly or to manifest who He truly is through His miracles, but because they lack faith (vv. 25 - 26). Jesus says that His sheep know Him and hear His voice, but the Jews are not His sheep (vv. 26 - 27). To this point, while Jesus may well have provoked his listeners to anger, there is nothing in what He has said that warrants the charge of blasphemy. But then Jesus says, "I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish" (v. 28). Here Jesus claims for Himself the Divine prerogative of granting life to His sheep. The Jews knew that only YHWH gives life (Deut. 32:39), let alone eternal life. Then Jesus equates His power to keep His sheep firmly in hand with His Father's power to do the same thing (vv. 28 - 29). The Jews knew that the Father was "greater than all," but when Jesus said that He had the same power to preserve His sheep as His Father has, this was a clear claim to equality with God. Jesus further drives the point home with His assertion that He and His Father are "one" (v. 30). It is at this point - and with good reason, from their perspective as unbelievers - that the Jews prepare to stone Jesus. Jesus immediately challenges them by returning to one of the two reasons He has given for making clear that He is the Messiah - His works: "I showed you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you stoning me?" (v. 32). This is not an evasive response - and it does not follow that Jesus' subsequent response will be evasive, either. The Jews reply that they are not stoning Him for His works, but for claiming to be God, which is blasphemy, according to their Law (v. 33). Some have argued that the Jews are accusing Jesus of nothing more than being "a god," on the basis that the Greek word theos ("God") lacks the article in this verse and on Jesus' use of Psalm 82 (see below). While many nouns without the article in Greek are indefinite, many others are not. Context, once again, is our sure guide for determining meaning. If the Jews believed that "a god" could grant eternal life or was equal to the Father in the power to preserve the Sheep, there might be some warrant for theos in this verse being rendered "a god." But this is manifestly not the case; while some might be called "gods," in the OT, none were ever said to have Divine powers such as these. Further, the Law against blasphemy did not pertain to those claiming to be 'a god,' but was specific to defaming the name of YHWH (Lev. 24:16), which any man did who claimed to be God or equated his power with YHWH's power. The Jews would be risking their lives if they were to stone Jesus on the grounds of the Temple for anything other than a Law clearly defined in the Hebrew Scriptures. Immediately after quoting Psalm 82 in His defense, Jesus again returns to the testimony of His works (vv. 37 - 38). Jesus then repeats what He has previously asserted in slightly different words: "The Father is in Me and I in the Father." This further appeal to an intimate relationship in which the Father's intimacy with the Son is no less than the Son's intimacy with the Father incites the Jews beyond talking and Jesus must elude them and flee. It may be said here that if Jesus' appeal to Psalm 82 is meant as nothing more than an answer to the charge of blasphemy, as some commentators allege, He has completely undermined His defense with new claims of unity and equality with His Father. It would seem untenable, given that He knew the hearts of his accusers, that Jesus would provoke the Jews with such a statement, unless it was a logical extension of what He has just said. Why did faithless Jews come to the conclusion that Jesus was making himself “God”? Evidently because Jesus attributed to himself powers that the Jews believed belonged exclusively to the Father. For example, Jesus said that he would give “eternal life” to the “sheep.” That was something no human could do. However, what the unbelieving Jews overlooked was that Jesus acknowledged having received everything from his Father, and the fine works he was doing proved that he was his Father’s representative. They were wrong in concluding that he was blasphemously making himself God. That the unbelieving Jews reasoned wrongly is also evident from other incidents. When questioned before the Sanhedrin, Jesus was falsely accused of blasphemy, not because of claiming to be ‘God the Son,’ but because of claiming to be the ‘Messiah, the Son of the living God.’ (Matt. 26:63-68; Luke 22:66-71) Also, on an earlier occasion, certain Jews got the idea that Jesus was making himself equal to God and wanted to kill him as a blasphemer. Of this, John 5:18 tells us: “The Jews began seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath but he was also calling God his own Father, making himself equal to God.” Note that Jesus did not say that he was God himself but that he called ‘God his Father.’ Jesus’ unbelieving fellow countrymen, however, objected to his claiming this relationship to his Father, this special Sonship. And just as they were wrong in labeling Jesus as a Sabbath breaker, they were also wrong in their assertion about Jesus’ making himself equal to God because of ‘calling God his own Father.’ Watchtower 1974 pp 525-526 Exactly. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26268975 11/08/2012 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was born with the holy spirit so where you, as we all were ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308 1 Corinthians 6:19 What? know you not that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have of God, and you are not your own? . Believers get the Holy Spirit after they accept Jesus, the free gift. You are no Christian, stop trying to preach. Of course I'm not a christian! Christians are evil. Anyone who accepts the brutal death of another so they can be saved, is evil to the core! . It was not us who killed Him, moron. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26268975 11/08/2012 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was born with the holy spirit so where you, as we all were ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308 1 Corinthians 6:19 What? know you not that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have of God, and you are not your own? . Believers get the Holy Spirit after they accept Jesus, the free gift. You are no Christian, stop trying to preach. Of course I'm not a christian! Christians are evil. Anyone who accepts the brutal death of another so they can be saved, is evil to the core! . It was not us who killed Him, moron. No Christian would do that. He accepted His death to spare His disciples, incl. us. |
| ANHEDONIC Uncensored User ID: 26795689 11/08/2012 06:34 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's called Astrotheology. One need not be an Atheist to recognize that the biblical story of Jesus paralleled preexisting mythology/belief systems and 'messiah' stories because they are all telling the story of the anthromorphization of the SUN and it's passage through the 'heavens'. Quoting: ANHEDONIC v=Z-17BNU7L6g There is no such parallel. Name one? Watch the video. Last Edited by ANHEDONIC on 11/08/2012 06:35 PM "Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you react to it." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550123 11/08/2012 06:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was born with the holy spirit so where you, as we all were ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308 1 Corinthians 6:19 What? know you not that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have of God, and you are not your own? . Believers get the Holy Spirit after they accept Jesus, the free gift. You are no Christian, stop trying to preach. Of course I'm not a christian! Christians are evil. Anyone who accepts the brutal death of another so they can be saved, is evil to the core! . Jesus agreed to die for humankind because Satan told God that no perfect human would ever stay on God's side. And Satan had just gotten two perfect humans(Adam and Eve) to turn away from God and join him(Satan). So Jesus agreed to be put to the test even to death to prove Satan a liar that he is. And Satan made it rough for him but Jesus prevailed and saved humankind. Now Satan doesn't have a leg to stand on and soon Jesus will take his rightful place as ruler of this earth and get rid of Satan and the demons. That is why Jesus had to die and why the death was so brutal. Jesus could have said no at anytime but didn't and stayed true to God. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 945308 11/08/2012 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27314176 Believers get the Holy Spirit after they accept Jesus, the free gift. You are no Christian, stop trying to preach. Of course I'm not a christian! Christians are evil. Anyone who accepts the brutal death of another so they can be saved, is evil to the core! . It was not us who killed Him, moron. No Christian would do that. He accepted His death to spare His disciples, incl. us. The story of Christ is a made up. The purpose of the story is to get you to accept the sacrifice of others. To see yourselves as worthy of such sacrifices. Christ is not one, he is many, and these have not yet been sacrificed, but when it happens, your kind will gladly accept the sacrifices and be glad. You make me want to vomit. . |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26268975 11/08/2012 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308 Of course I'm not a christian! Christians are evil. Anyone who accepts the brutal death of another so they can be saved, is evil to the core! . It was not us who killed Him, moron. No Christian would do that. He accepted His death to spare His disciples, incl. us. The story of Christ is a made up. The purpose of the story is to get you to accept the sacrifice of others. To see yourselves as worthy of such sacrifices. Christ is not one, he is many, and these have not yet been sacrificed, but when it happens, your kind will gladly accept the sacrifices and be glad. You make me want to vomit. . |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26268975 11/08/2012 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No Christian would do that. He accepted His death to spare His disciples, incl. us. The story of Christ is a made up. The purpose of the story is to get you to accept the sacrifice of others. To see yourselves as worthy of such sacrifices. Christ is not one, he is many, and these have not yet been sacrificed, but when it happens, your kind will gladly accept the sacrifices and be glad. You make me want to vomit. . If you are looking for me, then let these men go. John 18:8 ... Mark 14:21 The Son of Man will go just as it is written about him. But woe to that man who betrays the Son of Man! It would be better for him if he had not been born. … Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid. John 14:27 ... In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world. John 16:33 |
| Vaellene User ID: 27005108 11/08/2012 06:48 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | YOU ARE ALSO WRONG. You are a son of God if you are a thinking reasoning person. The Father in Heaven, the CREATOR of the whole universe is MIND dear one. SPIRIT IS MIND. you are mind, not your body. Thats a Lucifirean Idea and belief, Be careful NO ITS NOT. THE STUFF Y0U ONES POST IS LUCIFERIAN. AND LUCIFER IS NOT ON THE PLANET NOW FOR 2000 YEARS. JESUS ENDED HIS CAREER HERE AND REMOVED HIM. ... |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 945308 11/08/2012 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No Christian would do that. He accepted His death to spare His disciples, incl. us. The story of Christ is a made up. The purpose of the story is to get you to accept the sacrifice of others. To see yourselves as worthy of such sacrifices. Christ is not one, he is many, and these have not yet been sacrificed, but when it happens, your kind will gladly accept the sacrifices and be glad. You make me want to vomit. . No, you're stupid. You can't spot an evil story and you are glad of anothers sacrifice. It matters not if you killed him. Remember the crowd let a thief go free. Jesus was killed in his place. The truth behind this story is very scary ... you no doubt would too stupid to even begin to comprehend what it is really about. . |
| ANHEDONIC Uncensored User ID: 26795689 11/08/2012 06:51 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308 Of course I'm not a christian! Christians are evil. Anyone who accepts the brutal death of another so they can be saved, is evil to the core! . It was not us who killed Him, moron. No Christian would do that. He accepted His death to spare His disciples, incl. us. The story of Christ is a made up. The purpose of the story is to get you to accept the sacrifice of others. To see yourselves as worthy of such sacrifices. Christ is not one, he is many, and these have not yet been sacrificed, but when it happens, your kind will gladly accept the sacrifices and be glad. You make me want to vomit. . Research the Egyptian god known as Horus and compare the stories of the bible to the movment of the SUN. You are right to question the 'official' story but it sounds like your reasoning/interpretation is missing the mark. "Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you react to it." |
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| chauchat User ID: 10858311 11/08/2012 06:56 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308 Of course I'm not a christian! Christians are evil. Anyone who accepts the brutal death of another so they can be saved, is evil to the core! . It was not us who killed Him, moron. No Christian would do that. He accepted His death to spare His disciples, incl. us. The story of Christ is a made up. The purpose of the story is to get you to accept the sacrifice of others. To see yourselves as worthy of such sacrifices. Christ is not one, he is many, and these have not yet been sacrificed, but when it happens, your kind will gladly accept the sacrifices and be glad. You make me want to vomit. . Romans 4:6 For, indeed, Christ, while we were yet weak, died for ungodly men at the appointed time. 7 For hardly will anyone die for a righteous [man]; indeed, for the good [man], perhaps, someone even dares to die. 8 But God recommends his own love to us in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 4:15 But it is not with the gift as it was with the trespass. For if by one man’s trespass many died, the undeserved kindness of God and his free gift with the undeserved kindness by the one man Jesus Christ abounded much more to many. I can't imagine ppl feeling "worthy". I sure don't feel worthy. That probably would be vomit-worthy. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26268975 11/08/2012 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975 No Christian would do that. He accepted His death to spare His disciples, incl. us. The story of Christ is a made up. The purpose of the story is to get you to accept the sacrifice of others. To see yourselves as worthy of such sacrifices. Christ is not one, he is many, and these have not yet been sacrificed, but when it happens, your kind will gladly accept the sacrifices and be glad. You make me want to vomit. . No, you're stupid. You can't spot an evil story and you are glad of anothers sacrifice. It matters not if you killed him. Remember the crowd let a thief go free. Jesus was killed in his place. The truth behind this story is very scary ... you no doubt would too stupid to even begin to comprehend what it is really about. . To each one his own: I don ´t care about thieves. Unlike you do. BTW, human sacrifices have been prohibited by the Father of Jesus since Cain and Abel. Explicit. But Levites would not listen. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 945308 11/08/2012 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, you're stupid. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308 You can't spot an evil story and you are glad of anothers sacrifice. It matters not if you killed him. Remember the crowd let a thief go free. Jesus was killed in his place. The truth behind this story is very scary ... you no doubt would too stupid to even begin to comprehend what it is really about. . This begs the question ... if Jesus was so powerful and so well known, how come the huge crowd preferred to let an up-riser go and kill him instead? A big hole in the story I think! . |
| Klink User ID: 27314176 11/08/2012 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Research the Egyptian god known as Horus and compare the stories of the bible to the movment of the SUN. Quoting: ANHEDONIC You are right to question the 'official' story but it sounds like your reasoning/interpretation is missing the mark. Done. There are no parallels. Name one? [link to www.kingdavid8.com] You have followed a pack of Freemason liars. Jesus is recorded in history by all historians of the time, friend and foe. Their word is final on the matter, whether you deny the written history or not. You only lie to yourself. |
| chauchat User ID: 10858311 11/08/2012 07:02 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus agreed to die for humankind because Satan told God that no perfect human would ever stay on God's side. And Satan had just gotten two perfect humans(Adam and Eve) to turn away from God and join him(Satan). So Jesus agreed to be put to the test even to death to prove Satan a liar that he is. And Satan made it rough for him but Jesus prevailed and saved humankind. Now Satan doesn't have a leg to stand on and soon Jesus will take his rightful place as ruler of this earth and get rid of Satan and the demons. That is why Jesus had to die and why the death was so brutal. Jesus could have said no at anytime but didn't and stayed true to God. Yesh. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27314176 11/08/2012 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This begs the question ... if Jesus was so powerful and so well known, how come the huge crowd preferred to let an up-riser go and kill him instead? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308 A big hole in the story I think! . "Think you that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?" (Mt.26:53) Jesus came to fulfill old testament prophecies about dying for three days and resurrecting again, and to fulfill the entire sacrificial system of Israel. The temple services were a shadow of the coming final sacrifice for sin. God only forgives sin. Sin is transgression of the law. Jesus also set the witness or example of what ALL God's people will be after resurrection. Luke 24:34-43 Saying, The Lord is risen indeed, and has appeared to Simon. And they told what things were done in the way, and how he was known of them in breaking of bread. And as they thus spoke, Jesus himself stood in the middle of them, and said to them, Peace be to you. But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit. And he said to them, Why are you troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit has not flesh and bones, as you see me have. And when he had thus spoken, he showed them his hands and his feet. And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said to them, Have you here any meat? And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb. And he took it, and did eat before them. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550123 11/08/2012 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, you're stupid. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308 You can't spot an evil story and you are glad of anothers sacrifice. It matters not if you killed him. Remember the crowd let a thief go free. Jesus was killed in his place. The truth behind this story is very scary ... you no doubt would too stupid to even begin to comprehend what it is really about. . This begs the question ... if Jesus was so powerful and so well known, how come the huge crowd preferred to let an up-riser go and kill him instead? A big hole in the story I think! . They were listening to their corrupt religious leaders who hated Jesus because he was showing them up for what they were. The false religious leaders wanted Jesus dead and egged on the crowd to have Jesus killed. |
| ANHEDONIC Uncensored User ID: 26795689 11/08/2012 07:08 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Research the Egyptian god known as Horus and compare the stories of the bible to the movment of the SUN. Quoting: ANHEDONIC You are right to question the 'official' story but it sounds like your reasoning/interpretation is missing the mark. Done. There are no parallels. Name one? [link to www.kingdavid8.com] You have followed a pack of Freemason liars. Jesus is recorded in history by all historians of the time, friend and foe. Their word is final on the matter, whether you deny the written history or not. You only lie to yourself. What did you see in the video friend? If you are still asking me what the 'parallels' are I cannot believe you actually watched it with your eyes open. The 'story' of Jesus is the bible is a mirror of previous mythology and stories of 'dieties' & 'messiahs' ... The details are all the same because it's astrotheology! Please explain how cultures that predated the alleged time of Jesus are telling the same story of the bible using different 'Gods' and dieties/messiahs??? "Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you react to it." |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26268975 11/08/2012 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Research the Egyptian god known as Horus and compare the stories of the bible to the movment of the SUN. Quoting: ANHEDONIC You are right to question the 'official' story but it sounds like your reasoning/interpretation is missing the mark. Done. There are no parallels. Name one? [link to www.kingdavid8.com] You have followed a pack of Freemason liars. Jesus is recorded in history by all historians of the time, friend and foe. Their word is final on the matter, whether you deny the written history or not. You only lie to yourself. What did you see in the video friend? If you are still asking me what the 'parallels' are I cannot believe you actually watched it with your eyes open. The 'story' of Jesus is the bible is a mirror of previous mythology and stories of 'dieties' & 'messiahs' ... The details are all the same because it's astrotheology! Please explain how cultures that predated the alleged time of Jesus are telling the same story of the bible using different 'Gods' and dieties/messiahs??? Are not you Israelites the same to me as the Cushites? declares the LORD. Did I not bring Israel up from Egypt, the Philistines from Caphtor and the Arameans from Kir (Am:9:7) ... Am I only a God nearby," declares the LORD, "and not a God far away? Jeremiah 23:23 |
| chauchat User ID: 10858311 11/08/2012 07:12 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ’ Jesus’ unbelieving fellow countrymen, however, objected to his claiming this relationship to his Father, this special Sonship. And just as they were wrong in labeling Jesus as a Sabbath breaker, they were also wrong in their assertion about Jesus’ making himself equal to God because of ‘calling God his own Father.’ Quoting: chauchat Watchtower 1974 pp 525-526 Exactly. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 945308 11/08/2012 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, you're stupid. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308 You can't spot an evil story and you are glad of anothers sacrifice. It matters not if you killed him. Remember the crowd let a up-riser go free. Jesus was killed in his place. The truth behind this story is very scary ... you no doubt would too stupid to even begin to comprehend what it is really about. . This begs the question ... if Jesus was so powerful and so well known, how come the huge crowd preferred to let an up-riser go and kill him instead? A big hole in the story I think! . Think about it ... Only days before he rode in on a donkey to supposedly huge crowds and his name was everywhere and everyone knew of his miracles and then days later they all said "Stuff him, let him die!" It's nonsense! . |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26268975 11/08/2012 07:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Research the Egyptian god known as Horus and compare the stories of the bible to the movment of the SUN. Quoting: ANHEDONIC You are right to question the 'official' story but it sounds like your reasoning/interpretation is missing the mark. Done. There are no parallels. Name one? [link to www.kingdavid8.com] You have followed a pack of Freemason liars. Jesus is recorded in history by all historians of the time, friend and foe. Their word is final on the matter, whether you deny the written history or not. You only lie to yourself. What did you see in the video friend? If you are still asking me what the 'parallels' are I cannot believe you actually watched it with your eyes open. The 'story' of Jesus is the bible is a mirror of previous mythology and stories of 'dieties' & 'messiahs' ... The details are all the same because it's astrotheology! Please explain how cultures that predated the alleged time of Jesus are telling the same story of the bible using different 'Gods' and dieties/messiahs??? Are not you Israelites the same to me as the Cushites? declares the LORD. Did I not bring Israel up from Egypt, the Philistines from Caphtor and the Arameans from Kir (Am:9:7) ... Am I only a God nearby," declares the LORD, "and not a God far away? Jeremiah 23:23 Psalm 86:9 All nations whom You have made shall come and worship before You, O Lord, And they shall glorify Your name. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550123 11/08/2012 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, you're stupid. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308 You can't spot an evil story and you are glad of anothers sacrifice. It matters not if you killed him. Remember the crowd let a up-riser go free. Jesus was killed in his place. The truth behind this story is very scary ... you no doubt would too stupid to even begin to comprehend what it is really about. . This begs the question ... if Jesus was so powerful and so well known, how come the huge crowd preferred to let an up-riser go and kill him instead? A big hole in the story I think! . Think about it ... Only days before he rode in on a donkey to supposedly huge crowds and his name was everywhere and everyone knew of his miracles and then days later they all said "Stuff him, let him die!" It's nonsense! . Some stayed on Jesus' side as the bible points out and some went into hiding because of fear but the majority abandoned him. Just shows you the human condition. People will take and take but when it comes down to it the majority will sell you out. Even so, Jesus died for us ALL. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 945308 11/08/2012 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, you're stupid. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308 You can't spot an evil story and you are glad of anothers sacrifice. It matters not if you killed him. Remember the crowd let a up-riser go free. Jesus was killed in his place. The truth behind this story is very scary ... you no doubt would too stupid to even begin to comprehend what it is really about. . This begs the question ... if Jesus was so powerful and so well known, how come the huge crowd preferred to let an up-riser go and kill him instead? A big hole in the story I think! . Think about it ... Only days before he rode in on a donkey to supposedly huge crowds and his name was everywhere and everyone knew of his miracles and then days later they all said "Stuff him, let him die!" It's nonsense! . Some stayed on Jesus' side as the bible points out and some went into hiding because of fear but the majority abandoned him. Just shows you the human condition. People will take and take but when it comes down to it the majority will sell you out. Even so, Jesus died for us ALL. It's more likely they took to heart what he had preached which was he had to be put to death so they live. So he could save others. So the Christian crowd yelled "I want his arse dead so I can live! KILL the Bastard!" . . |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 945308 11/08/2012 07:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308 This begs the question ... if Jesus was so powerful and so well known, how come the huge crowd preferred to let an up-riser go and kill him instead? A big hole in the story I think! . Think about it ... Only days before he rode in on a donkey to supposedly huge crowds and his name was everywhere and everyone knew of his miracles and then days later they all said "Stuff him, let him die!" It's nonsense! . Some stayed on Jesus' side as the bible points out and some went into hiding because of fear but the majority abandoned him. Just shows you the human condition. People will take and take but when it comes down to it the majority will sell you out. Even so, Jesus died for us ALL. It's more likely they took to heart what he had preached which was he had to be put to death so they live. So he could save others. So the Christian crowd yelled "I want his arse dead so I can live! KILL the Bastard!" . . for truth |