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Jesus was NOT the only begotten SON.

 
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No, you're stupid.

You can't spot an evil story and you are glad of anothers sacrifice.

It matters not if you killed him. Remember the crowd let a thief go free. Jesus was killed in his place.

The truth behind this story is very scary ... you no doubt would too stupid to even begin to comprehend what it is really about.
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If this is true [link to www.rinf.com] there's plenty of human sacrifice carried on,but people who love God and their fellow man have always hated that. Remember when Abraham begged God to reconsider about Sodom and Gomorrah? Jesus said forgive them father for they know not what they do. And God reassures his people that it is righteous on his part to repay tribulation to those making tribulation for them?

John 16 “I have spoken these things to YOU that YOU may not be stumbled. 2 Men will expel YOU from the synagogue. In fact, the hour is coming when everyone that kills YOU will imagine he has rendered a sacred service to God. 3 But they will do these things because they have not come to know either the Father or me. 4 Nevertheless, I have spoken these things to YOU that, when the hour for them arrives, YOU may remember I told them to YOU.
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That typical christian crap, preach one thing but do another.

You are happy to accept the sacrifice of a good man therefore YOU are evil.
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The story of Christ is a made up.

The purpose of the story is to get you to accept the sacrifice of others.

To see yourselves as worthy of such sacrifices.

Christ is not one, he is many, and these have not yet been sacrificed, but when it happens, your kind will gladly accept the sacrifices and be glad.

You make me want to vomit.
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Romans 4:6 For, indeed, Christ, while we were yet weak, died for ungodly men at the appointed time. 7 For hardly will anyone die for a righteous [man]; indeed, for the good [man], perhaps, someone even dares to die. 8 But God recommends his own love to us in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Romans 4:15 But it is not with the gift as it was with the trespass. For if by one man’s trespass many died, the undeserved kindness of God and his free gift with the undeserved kindness by the one man Jesus Christ abounded much more to many.

I can't imagine ppl feeling "worthy". I sure don't feel worthy. That probably would be vomit-worthy.
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The story of Christ is a made up.

The purpose of the story is to get you to accept the sacrifice of others.

To see yourselves as worthy of such sacrifices.

Christ is not one, he is many, and these have not yet been sacrificed, but when it happens, your kind will gladly accept the sacrifices and be glad.

You make me want to vomit.
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the above is a Quote from OP^

Below is me:

Romans 4:6 For, indeed, Christ, while we were yet weak, died for ungodly men at the appointed time. 7 For hardly will anyone die for a righteous [man]; indeed, for the good [man], perhaps, someone even dares to die. 8 But God recommends his own love to us in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Romans 4:15 But it is not with the gift as it was with the trespass. For if by one man’s trespass many died, the undeserved kindness of God and his free gift with the undeserved kindness by the one man Jesus Christ abounded much more to many.

I can't imagine ppl feeling "worthy". I sure don't feel worthy. That probably would be vomit-worthy.
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If people were capable of rational thought when it comes to religion, they would realize a story about a God who allows his son to be abused and killed and then rewards those who kill him with ever lasting life, is absolutely absurd.

What sense would that make?

Who in their right mind would worship a man who stood by and allowed his son to be butchered?

And the crowd said "kill him" so you can't go blaming the Jewish leaders. It was ordinary men who put him to death and laughed and jeered.

It was Christian people!
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If people were capable of rational thought when it comes to religion, they would realize a story about a God who allows his son to be abused and killed and then rewards those who kill him with ever lasting life, is absolutely absurd.

What sense would that make?

Who in their right mind would worship a man who stood by and allowed his son to be butchered?

And the crowd said "kill him" so you can't go blaming the Jewish leaders. It was ordinary men who put him to death and laughed and jeered.

It was Christian people!
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Your logic is amasing, OP. Who was it accusing Him before Pilate of blasphemy and rebellion against the ceasar?
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If people were capable of rational thought when it comes to religion, they would realize a story about a God who allows his son to be abused and killed and then rewards those who kill him with ever lasting life, is absolutely absurd.

What sense would that make?

Who in their right mind would worship a man who stood by and allowed his son to be butchered?

And the crowd said "kill him" so you can't go blaming the Jewish leaders. It was ordinary men who put him to death and laughed and jeered.

It was Christian people!
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Silence?

It makes no sense and we can all see that.

There is sense but only if the story is symbolic, if the story is literal, no sense or God is clearly a monster.
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If people were capable of rational thought when it comes to religion, they would realize a story about a God who allows his son to be abused and killed and then rewards those who kill him with ever lasting life, is absolutely absurd.

What sense would that make?

Who in their right mind would worship a man who stood by and allowed his son to be butchered?

And the crowd said "kill him" so you can't go blaming the Jewish leaders. It was ordinary men who put him to death and laughed and jeered.

It was Christian people!
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Your logic is amasing, OP. Who was it accusing Him before Pilate of blasphemy and rebellion against the ceasar?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


He was in a scapegoat situation with the crowd and the crowd said "kill Jesus and free the other guy who was a known criminal. The crowd put him to death.

Christians who apparently welcomed him into town days beforehand in the thousands and waved palm branches.

The crowd could have yelled "let him go free and kill the criminal" but they did not they yelled to free the criminal.
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Re: Jesus was NOT the only begotten SON.
If people were capable of rational thought when it comes to religion, they would realize a story about a God who allows his son to be abused and killed and then rewards those who kill him with ever lasting life, is absolutely absurd.

What sense would that make?

Who in their right mind would worship a man who stood by and allowed his son to be butchered?

And the crowd said "kill him" so you can't go blaming the Jewish leaders. It was ordinary men who put him to death and laughed and jeered.

It was Christian people!
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308

I don't think you could call anybody "Christians" until after Pentecost 33 CE, which is the birth of the Christian Congregation.

This is who wanted him to be sacrificed according to the Bible:
John 11:46 "but some of them went off to the Pharisees and told them the things Jesus did. 47 Consequently the chief priests and the Pharisees gathered the San′he·drin together and began to say: “What are we to do, because this man performs many signs? 48 If we let him alone this way, they will all put faith in him, and the Romans will come and take away both our place and our nation.” 49 But a certain one of them, Ca′ia·phas, who was high priest that year, said to them: “YOU do not know anything at all, 50 and YOU do not reason out that it is to YOUR benefit for one man to die in behalf of the people and not for the whole nation to be destroyed.”

How about this ,though?"51 This, though, he did not say of his own originality; but because he was high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus was destined to die for the nation, 52 and not for the nation only, but in order that the children of God who are scattered about he might also gather together in one. 53 Therefore from that day on they took counsel to kill him."
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If people were capable of rational thought when it comes to religion, they would realize a story about a God who allows his son to be abused and killed and then rewards those who kill him with ever lasting life, is absolutely absurd.

What sense would that make?

Who in their right mind would worship a man who stood by and allowed his son to be butchered?

And the crowd said "kill him" so you can't go blaming the Jewish leaders. It was ordinary men who put him to death and laughed and jeered.

It was Christian people!
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bingo op, and this stuff draws tears, people have no concept of god or the son which has nothing in terms of the Trinity to do with Jesus at all.
and they think Mary carried the holy ghost, no she carried a normal pregnancy the father of Jesus was gabriel, but they don't know who gavriel is either. DNA is involved to create a human body, the holy ghost does not come into someone and grow a child. it takes male and female dna. Jesus had a father, lets call it test tube child, was Jesus.
There was a donor of dna, not a holy ghost.
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Re: Jesus was NOT the only begotten SON.
If people were capable of rational thought when it comes to religion, they would realize a story about a God who allows his son to be abused and killed and then rewards those who kill him with ever lasting life, is absolutely absurd.

What sense would that make?

Who in their right mind would worship a man who stood by and allowed his son to be butchered?

And the crowd said "kill him" so you can't go blaming the Jewish leaders. It was ordinary men who put him to death and laughed and jeered.

It was Christian people!
.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308


bingo op, and this stuff draws tears, people have no concept of god or the son which has nothing in terms of the Trinity to do with Jesus at all.
and they think Mary carried the holy ghost, no she carried a normal pregnancy the father of Jesus was gabriel, but they don't know who gavriel is either. DNA is involved to create a human body, the holy ghost does not come into someone and grow a child. it takes male and female dna. Jesus had a father, lets call it test tube child, was Jesus.
There was a donor of dna, not a holy ghost.
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If people were capable of rational thought when it comes to religion, they would realize a story about a God who allows his son to be abused and killed and then rewards those who kill him with ever lasting life, is absolutely absurd.

What sense would that make?

Who in their right mind would worship a man who stood by and allowed his son to be butchered?

And the crowd said "kill him" so you can't go blaming the Jewish leaders. It was ordinary men who put him to death and laughed and jeered.

It was Christian people!
.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308


Your logic is amasing, OP. Who was it accusing Him before Pilate of blasphemy and rebellion against the ceasar?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


He was in a scapegoat situation with the crowd and the crowd said "kill Jesus and free the other guy who was a known criminal. The crowd put him to death.

Christians who apparently welcomed him into town days beforehand in the thousands and waved palm branches.

The crowd could have yelled "let him go free and kill the criminal" but they did not they yelled to free the criminal.
.
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The crowd was Jewish, Jerusalem was full of Jews on the Jewish Pesah.

Christanity came but with His ressurection and expansion of His cult in the pagan world of Roman Empire.
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@ Vaellene

The whole bible is a story. A secret wrapped up in a story.

Jesus never existed other than he is you and he is I.

Period.
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Jesus existed Judas kept notes (schrolls). the scross were found shortly after 1960 in the old grave. Placed there by his son Joseph, who was the oldest son of Jesus. Jesus married in Kashmir India. He survived the cross, which the bible says, and be boarded a craft to damascus to get the hell out of the hell hole and go do the rest of his mission without being trailed. Judas went with him to India.

after the death of Jesus who was known as St. issa in Kashmir when he was over 100 years old, his son joseph brought the papers back. Judas died a number of years earlier.

His son joseph buried the papers in the old grave where others were guided to find them. these were true records. There were not passed word of mourth or written years later.

Jduas and Jesus translate them here form the aramaic. [link to tweeofmeer.webs.com] now go read for some real truth
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If people were capable of rational thought when it comes to religion, they would realize a story about a God who allows his son to be abused and killed and then rewards those who kill him with ever lasting life, is absolutely absurd.

What sense would that make?

Who in their right mind would worship a man who stood by and allowed his son to be butchered?

And the crowd said "kill him" so you can't go blaming the Jewish leaders. It was ordinary men who put him to death and laughed and jeered.

It was Christian people!
.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308


Your logic is amasing, OP. Who was it accusing Him before Pilate of blasphemy and rebellion against the ceasar?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


He was in a scapegoat situation with the crowd and the crowd said "kill Jesus and free the other guy who was a known criminal. The crowd put him to death.

Christians who apparently welcomed him into town days beforehand in the thousands and waved palm branches.

The crowd could have yelled "let him go free and kill the criminal" but they did not they yelled to free the criminal.
.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308


The crowd was Jewish, Jerusalem was full of Jews on the Jewish Pesah.

Christanity came but with His ressurection and expansion of His cult in the pagan world of Roman Empire.
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NOPE there were NO jews then. the Khazar Zionists named themselves Jews in 1700+ ad and then changed the bible, so they could steal israel. they started out in MONGOLIA, hardly the "holy Land" and now you silly christian zionists are tools of them, for they changed the bible and went to get YOU to serve
THem and so you do and they are the antichrist. go figure. you who are christian zionists are so mind controlled its pathetic
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If people were capable of rational thought when it comes to religion, they would realize a story about a God who allows his son to be abused and killed and then rewards those who kill him with ever lasting life, is absolutely absurd.

What sense would that make?

Who in their right mind would worship a man who stood by and allowed his son to be butchered?

And the crowd said "kill him" so you can't go blaming the Jewish leaders. It was ordinary men who put him to death and laughed and jeered.

It was Christian people!
.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308

I don't think you could call anybody "Christians" until after Pentecost 33 CE, which is the birth of the Christian Congregation.

This is who wanted him to be sacrificed according to the Bible:
John 11:46 "but some of them went off to the Pharisees and told them the things Jesus did. 47 Consequently the chief priests and the Pharisees gathered the San′he·drin together and began to say: “What are we to do, because this man performs many signs? 48 If we let him alone this way, they will all put faith in him, and the Romans will come and take away both our place and our nation.” 49 But a certain one of them, Ca′ia·phas, who was high priest that year, said to them: “YOU do not know anything at all, 50 and YOU do not reason out that it is to YOUR benefit for one man to die in behalf of the people and not for the whole nation to be destroyed.”

How about this ,though?"51 This, though, he did not say of his own originality; but because he was high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus was destined to die for the nation, 52 and not for the nation only, but in order that the children of God who are scattered about he might also gather together in one. 53 Therefore from that day on they took counsel to kill him."
 Quoting: chauchat


No, long before that ...

John 1:29 John saw Jesus coming toward him the next day and said, Behold the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world.

The real reason for what amounts to a ritual sacrifice is hinted at below.

John 6:53 So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.


Remember Jesus was the Lamb. In the Old Testament it is a real lamb which absolves sin but in the New Testament, Jesus.
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Your logic is amasing, OP. Who was it accusing Him before Pilate of blasphemy and rebellion against the ceasar?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


He was in a scapegoat situation with the crowd and the crowd said "kill Jesus and free the other guy who was a known criminal. The crowd put him to death.

Christians who apparently welcomed him into town days beforehand in the thousands and waved palm branches.

The crowd could have yelled "let him go free and kill the criminal" but they did not they yelled to free the criminal.
.
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The crowd was Jewish, Jerusalem was full of Jews on the Jewish Pesah.

Christanity came but with His ressurection and expansion of His cult in the pagan world of Roman Empire.
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NOPE there were NO jews then. the Khazar Zionists named themselves Jews in 1700+ ad and then changed the bible, so they could steal israel. they started out in MONGOLIA, hardly the "holy Land" and now you silly christian zionists are tools of them, for they changed the bible and went to get YOU to serve
THem and so you do and they are the antichrist. go figure. you who are christian zionists are so mind controlled its pathetic
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Judaism began with the establishing of the Southern Kingdom of Israel = the Kingdom of Judah, after Solomon´s death.
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@ Vaellene

The whole bible is a story. A secret wrapped up in a story.

Jesus never existed other than he is you and he is I.

Period.
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Wrong your Facts are faulted ; better argument please
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Jesus never existed ...

[link to www.jesusneverexisted.com]
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Better facts, not opinions. Unless you can't tell the difference.
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He was in a scapegoat situation with the crowd and the crowd said "kill Jesus and free the other guy who was a known criminal. The crowd put him to death.

Christians who apparently welcomed him into town days beforehand in the thousands and waved palm branches.

The crowd could have yelled "let him go free and kill the criminal" but they did not they yelled to free the criminal.
.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308


The crowd was Jewish, Jerusalem was full of Jews on the Jewish Pesah.

Christanity came but with His ressurection and expansion of His cult in the pagan world of Roman Empire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975

NOPE there were NO jews then. the Khazar Zionists named themselves Jews in 1700+ ad and then changed the bible, so they could steal israel. they started out in MONGOLIA, hardly the "holy Land" and now you silly christian zionists are tools of them, for they changed the bible and went to get YOU to serve
THem and so you do and they are the antichrist. go figure. you who are christian zionists are so mind controlled its pathetic
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Judaism began with the establishing of the Southern Kingdom of Israel = the Kingdom of Judah, after Solomon´s death.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


The bible starts with Adam and then Noah then it quickly goes to Jacob who has 12 sons. Supposed Jews or hebrews.

We are all Jews if you take this meaning as we are all related to these people.

The term Jewish is nonsense.

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If people were capable of rational thought when it comes to religion, they would realize a story about a God who allows his son to be abused and killed and then rewards those who kill him with ever lasting life, is absolutely absurd.

What sense would that make?

Who in their right mind would worship a man who stood by and allowed his son to be butchered?

And the crowd said "kill him" so you can't go blaming the Jewish leaders. It was ordinary men who put him to death and laughed and jeered.

It was Christian people!
.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308

I don't think you could call anybody "Christians" until after Pentecost 33 CE, which is the birth of the Christian Congregation.

This is who wanted him to be sacrificed according to the Bible:
John 11:46 "but some of them went off to the Pharisees and told them the things Jesus did. 47 Consequently the chief priests and the Pharisees gathered the San′he·drin together and began to say: “What are we to do, because this man performs many signs? 48 If we let him alone this way, they will all put faith in him, and the Romans will come and take away both our place and our nation.” 49 But a certain one of them, Ca′ia·phas, who was high priest that year, said to them: “YOU do not know anything at all, 50 and YOU do not reason out that it is to YOUR benefit for one man to die in behalf of the people and not for the whole nation to be destroyed.”

How about this ,though?"51 This, though, he did not say of his own originality; but because he was high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus was destined to die for the nation, 52 and not for the nation only, but in order that the children of God who are scattered about he might also gather together in one. 53 Therefore from that day on they took counsel to kill him."
 Quoting: chauchat


No, long before that ...

John 1:29 John saw Jesus coming toward him the next day and said, Behold the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world.

The real reason for what amounts to a ritual sacrifice is hinted at below.

John 6:53 So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.


Remember Jesus was the Lamb. In the Old Testament it is a real lamb which absolves sin but in the New Testament, Jesus.
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I don't have to remember that Jesus was the Passover lamb, I already know that. Lamb didn't absolve sin, but made the angel of death pass over. This is the same thing Caiaphas and the other jewish religious leaders wanted to use him for, if you notice scriptures above. ["We have no king but Caesar!" The Romans were the only "angel of death" they were worried about, it seems.] Too late, though, I guess, because he'd already symbolically offered his flesh and blood, to the eleven remaining apostles on the correct date for the Passover meal- the night before, Nisan 14 Eve.
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NOPE there were NO jews then. the Khazar Zionists named themselves Jews in 1700+ ad and then changed the bible, so they could steal israel. they started out in MONGOLIA, hardly the "holy Land" and now you silly christian zionists are tools of them, for they changed the bible and went to get YOU to serve
THem and so you do and they are the antichrist. go figure. you who are christian zionists are so mind controlled its pathetic
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Judaism began with the establishing of the Southern Kingdom of Israel = the Kingdom of Judah, after Solomon´s death.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8017901


The bible starts with Adam and then Noah then it quickly goes to Jacob who has 12 sons. Supposed Jews or hebrews.

We are all Jews if you take this meaning as we are all related to these people.

The term Jewish is nonsense.

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I agree that it looks like we're all descended from them by now, as well as the lost sheep of Israel. My point in continuing to use the term, as does the Bible itself, is that during the 1st century CE, it did have meaning.
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The only begotten son was Adam NOT Jesus.

Jesus said we're all gods.

John 10:34
Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

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John 10:35 If he called them gods, to whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

i.e. God's people
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Jesus is the one, and you are completely wrong
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YOU ARE ALSO WRONG. You are a son of God if you are a thinking reasoning person. The Father in Heaven, the CREATOR of the whole universe is MIND dear one. SPIRIT IS MIND. you are mind, not your body.
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Thats a Lucifirean Idea and belief, Be careful
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NO ITS NOT. THE STUFF Y0U ONES POST IS LUCIFERIAN. AND LUCIFER IS NOT ON THE PLANET NOW FOR 2000 YEARS. JESUS ENDED HIS CAREER HERE AND REMOVED HIM.
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That occurs at the second coming. Satan rules this world.
Worry is a misuse of the imagination.
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The crowd was Jewish, Jerusalem was full of Jews on the Jewish Pesah.

Christanity came but with His ressurection and expansion of His cult in the pagan world of Roman Empire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975

NOPE there were NO jews then. the Khazar Zionists named themselves Jews in 1700+ ad and then changed the bible, so they could steal israel. they started out in MONGOLIA, hardly the "holy Land" and now you silly christian zionists are tools of them, for they changed the bible and went to get YOU to serve
THem and so you do and they are the antichrist. go figure. you who are christian zionists are so mind controlled its pathetic
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8017901


Judaism began with the establishing of the Southern Kingdom of Israel = the Kingdom of Judah, after Solomon´s death.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


The bible starts with Adam and then Noah then it quickly goes to Jacob who has 12 sons. Supposed Jews or hebrews.

We are all Jews if you take this meaning as we are all related to these people.

The term Jewish is nonsense.

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no we are not. adam and eve were not the first two people, that is just an old mixed up story. The planet was completely populated on all continents with decent weather when they came, and they came 38,000 years ago. Man is evolved on planets unless the planet is colonized by man from other planets.

There were humans here from other planets at the tiem of the dinosaurs millions of years ago.

When you read your bible you should under stand that the people of this world were not just the races of that small area.

The races on this world came from other planets. The blacks and yellows came from the same planet over 1 million years ago. This planet has been cleansed many a time of overpopulation of man, the planet herself will do an axis shift and she has been trying to do one again since the end of WW2 and those here under the command of the returned Jesus, prevented it to this point using special energies from HUGE craft from the heaven management realms.

We are not all related as I said, the world was populated then. God does not just make two people and plant them on a world to populate it. I hope you don't believe that silly story. NOT HOW IT WORKS. The creation is huge and there are about 5.6 TRILLION inhabited planets with many more come.

the people in that area now labeled jews falsely in the bible were hebrews who were form another planet, who arrived arrive here something like 14,000 years ago, and judeans, semites etc. Many were from planets of Pleiades.

Jehovah is a PLANET not God, and its people have a role in babysitting this world, they are very advanced. They helped MOses and gave the 20 commandments by lasers on the tablets, and fried sodom and gomorrah.

Yahweh was a pleiadian over lord on this planet and not creator. Your bible is a semi history body of tales and legends.

The lake of fire, was the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. Abraham had nuclear weapons which is why Machiventa Melchizedek came from heaven in an effort to stop that mess. Sodom and gomorrah were on the lake, they had refineries, so the when they were blown up, the oils and gases covered the lake producing a lake of fire.

The Gulf of Mexico is about to produce a very large lake of fire. You ones must stop this BS for that is what it is. You will not survive very well if you do not.

MIND is essential to survival and your minds must be in contact with the Father is not an old man up there someplace. CREATOR IS THE MIND of the CREATION. he is not a man ruling this planet. He didi not create this planet directly nor any other planets directly and he does not directly create all the animals and plants etc. Planets are seeded with life by teams of angelic Sons of God who specialize in that. god does not sprinkle by magic wands the plants on a planet, nor the animals, nor the people. You must grow up people. There is little time to do so.

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The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

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Re: Jesus was NOT the only begotten SON.
The word "Son" doesn't mean actual biological "Son" at all. It just means that Jesus is a "Son" of God in a way that God loved him so much that he chose him to be his messenger to the people of Israel.

Genesis 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.

Luke 3:38 (descent line of Jesus) Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

Psalms 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.


Psalm 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou (David) art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.


Genesis 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, Genesis 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Exodus 4:21 And the LORD said unto Moses, When thou goest to return into Egypt, see that thou do all those wonders before Pharaoh, which I have put in thine hand: but I will harden his heart, that he shall not let the people go. Exodus 4:22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel (Jacob) is my son, even my firstborn: Exodus 4:23 And I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me: and if thou refuse to let him go, behold, I will slay thy son, even thy firstborn.

1 Chronicles 17:7 Now therefore thus shalt thou say unto my servant David, Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I took thee from the sheepcote, even from following the sheep, that thou shouldest be ruler over my people Israel:17:8 And I have been with thee whithersoever thou hast walked, and have cut off all thine enemies from before thee, and have made thee a name like the name of the great men that are in the earth.17:9 Also I will ordain a place for my people Israel, and will plant them, and they shall dwell in their place, and shall be moved no more; neither shall the children of wickedness waste them anymore, as at the beginning,
17:10 And since the time that I commanded judges to be over my people Israel. Moreover I will subdue all thine enemies. Furthermore I tell thee that the LORD will build thee an house.
17:11 And it shall come to pass, when thy days be expired that thou must go to be with thy fathers, that I will raise up thy seed after thee, which shall be of thy sons; and I will establish his kingdom. 17:12 He shall build me an house, and I will stablish his throne for ever. 17:13 I will be his father, and he shall be my son: and I will not take my mercy away from him, as I took it from him that was before thee:17:14 But I will settle him in mine house and in my kingdom for ever: and his throne shall be established for evermore.

1 Chronicles, 28:5 [David is being quoted.] And of all my sons (for the LORD has given me many sons) he has chosen Solomon my son to sit upon the throne of the kingdom of the LORD over Israel. 1 Chronicles, 28:6 He said to me, `It is Solomon your son who shall build my house and my courts, for I have chosen him to be my Son, and I will be his Father.
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If you ones do not ThINK for selves and stop pasting bible as PROOF, you will be taking a long time to get to your "heaven". This book is corrupted in almost every area within it. God is WITHIN YOU and because he IS within YOU, are are SONS OF GOD, now GROW UP and accept that and start truly growing yourself each and every day.

Now go out and do what is RIGHT, if you can figure out what is right. You ones have just elected another antichrist to office in this country and Romney is one too. The antichrists on two legs select who you will vote for, and go right ahead and do it, every election.

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The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

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So in the bible the following people are God's son

Everyone as we are all children of the most high.

Adam who is said to be god's son

Cain because Eve said she got a man from the lord.

Jacob as his new name Isreal.

David who God claims is his begotten

Solomon

and lastly Jesus.
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Of course I'm not a christian!

Christians are evil.

Anyone who accepts the brutal death of another so they can be saved, is evil to the core!

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Is Jesus Christ evil?

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Jacob as his new name Isreal.


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Is ra el

Israel

Not Is real.

Get it yet?
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So in the bible the following people are God's son

Everyone as we are all children of the most high.

Adam who is said to be god's son

Cain because Eve said she got a man from the lord.

Jacob as his new name Isreal.

David who God claims is his begotten

Solomon

and lastly Jesus.
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YOU ARE A SON OF GOD. GROWN UP AND PLAY THE ROLE. STIOP WITH THIS BAD BIBLE STORIES. THE BIBLE IS NOT THE WORD OF GOD. YOU ARE THE WORD OF GOD., EACH OF YOU. THE BIBLE IS "SATANS" WORK, NOT THE WORD OF GOD. BECAUSE IT RETAINS A SMALL AMOUNT OF TRUTH DOES NOT MAKE THE WHOLE THING TRUE.

THE CATHOLICS CREATED JESUS AS THE ONLY SON OF GOD LONG LONG AGO. AND REWRITE A LOT OF THE MATERIAL AS NEEDED TO CONTROL YOU. IF YOU WOULD BUT REASON YOU COULD SEE THAT.

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The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

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Jacob as his new name Isreal.


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Is ra el

Israel

Not Is real.

Get it yet?
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IS RA EL ACTUALLY MEANS A PERSON WHO IS IN BALANCE WITH MOTHER FATHER GOD ENERGIES. ONE WITH RISEN KUNDALINI
The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

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IS RA EL ACTUALLY MEANS A PERSON WHO IS IN BALANCE WITH MOTHER FATHER GOD ENERGIES. ONE WITH RISEN KUNDALINI
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Can you explain that ... please?
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