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If you believe in Evolution YOU are a big Mistake

 
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HEY RETARD!

Even if you don't believe in human evolution, saying evolution doesn't exist is fucking ignorant.

We've watched other species eviolve, even in our lifetimes.

Species of frog have gone from water-breathing to full amphibious due to lowering oxygen levels of water.

Carnivorous lizards have developed glands to process and digest plant matter in areas with not enough pray.

Polar bears and brown bears are cross-breeding, right now, creating a newer and more durable species due to being pushed from their habitats.

I could list thousands of examples. You can debate the origin of humans all you want, but denying evolution outright proves you're a fucking idiot.

Why don't you try learning something factual before trying to sound intelligent, instead of dumbing everyone down with your dillusions.
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frogs are still frogs
lizards are still lizards
polar bears are still bears
you fail.
 Quoting: NWO4Never


Obviously, you do not understand the concept of evolution. It is simply is the change in the inherited characteristics over successive generations.
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satan delivers temporal things in this evil world (Gal. 1:4)

God delivers eternal life in the world to come (Matt. 12:32)


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yeh, well, i want mine now, in cash, thank you very much.
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satan delivers temporal things in this evil world (Gal. 1:4)

God delivers eternal life in the world to come (Matt. 12:32)


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yeh, well, i want mine now, in cash, thank you very much.
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This is the love of God. All have freedom of choice.

For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the Lord:
They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof. Therefore shall
they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices. (Prov. 1:29-31)
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Something to ponder...

[link to lloydpye.com]

12 Ways Humans Are Not Primates
According to Darwinian evolution, humans evolved from primates. Yet somehow in our evolutionary process, we seem to have gotten weaker, slower, and in many ways less adapted to living on this planet. Read the following list and see if you still think it was advantageous for us to "evolve" these differences.

BONES – Much thinner and lighter than primates

MUSCLES – 5 to 10 times weaker than primates

SKIN – Not well adapted to direct sunlight in many cases

ADIPOSE TISSUE – (that means fat between the skin and muscle) 10 times as much as primates in a healthy person

BODY HAIR – Missing, pattern reversed from primates

HEAD HAIR & NAILS – Must be trimmed, unlike primates

SKULLS & BRAINS – Not in same ballpark

LOCOMOTION – Most obvious difference

SPEECH – Throats completely redesigned from primates

SEX – No sign of typical oestrus cycles

GENETIC DISORDERS – Over 4,000 !!!

CHROMOSOMES – Reduced to 46 from 48

The Darwinist paradigm for human evolution falls flattest when it attempts to depict humans as merely another, but vastly “advanced” and “superior,” form of primate. If not for the overwhelming need to keep humans as an integral part of the natural “flowchart” of life on Earth, we would have long ago been classified with our own distinctive genus containing a species like no other.
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


He is a fucking nutcake.

[link to www.rationalskepticism.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

That's an example of an order containing 125 birds (eg. hawks and vultures) I'm pretty certain if you would list the entire range of differences in that order you would get a similar list (other then brain function and communication in which humans are indeed exceptional).
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rational skepticism? That website is full of shit.
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Just the Structure of the Elements and relationship between all types of life show that the Universe and Life has been Created and made By a Creator - God.

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Alright...

Impressive claim.

Please show why the structure of the elements and the relationship between of types of life show that the universe and life has been created by the Biblical God.

And why exactly one cannot infer that the Hinduistic gods were responsible for this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22089462


Depends on who god really is. I just think of him as ET or whatever. Who cares but Genesis 6:1 spoke of sons of god and daughter of earth mating. It is open to interpretation.

However, if you take a close look at X and Y chromosomes between apes and homo sapien...

[link to www.lloydpye.com]

Dear Mr. Pye:
I agree with your conclusions [that humans are genetically engineered] and will give you a few hints, if you wish [speaking] as a “DNA Deep Throat.” First, look up the huge discontinuities between humans and the various apes for: (1) Whole mitochondrial DNA; (2) genes for the Rh Factor; (3) and human Y chromosomes, among others.

Regarding #3, I refer you to K.D. Smith’s 1987 study titled “Repeated DNA sequences of the human Y chromosome.” It says “Most human Y chromosome sequences thus far examined do not have homologues [same relative position or structure] on the Y chromosomes of other primates.” Human female X chromosomes do look somewhat apelike, but not the male’s Y.

This means that if humans are a crossbred species, the cross had to be between a female ape-like creature [i.e, “creature of Earth”] and a male being from elsewhere.

---

Interesting, eh?
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


Euhm that doesn't answer the question I posed in any way shape or form.

So no that isn't interesting that is just more Pye stuff.

Seriously the reason why humans have a different chromosome number is well documented and there really aren't any indications that "aliens did it" (although arguably I guess it is a remote possibility, but without evidence for it is useless to presume aliens did it).
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I guess you're not interested in facts, just protecting scientific dogma. You're no worse than bibletards.
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HEY RETARD!

Even if you don't believe in human evolution, saying evolution doesn't exist is fucking ignorant.

We've watched other species eviolve, even in our lifetimes.

Species of frog have gone from water-breathing to full amphibious due to lowering oxygen levels of water.

Carnivorous lizards have developed glands to process and digest plant matter in areas with not enough pray.

Polar bears and brown bears are cross-breeding, right now, creating a newer and more durable species due to being pushed from their habitats.

I could list thousands of examples. You can debate the origin of humans all you want, but denying evolution outright proves you're a fucking idiot.

Why don't you try learning something factual before trying to sound intelligent, instead of dumbing everyone down with your dillusions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27339308


frogs are still frogs
lizards are still lizards
polar bears are still bears
you fail.
 Quoting: NWO4Never


Obviously, you do not understand the concept of evolution. It is simply is the change in the inherited characteristics over successive generations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25510138


evolution states that life created itself from a soup of water and rocks

adding the fantasy of billions of years in order to explain this absurdity is, well, retarded
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Until we see some proof Evolution stands.
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Evolution is as much of a religion as christianity. Except one is a lie and one is the truth. I'll give you a hint, take a look at the luciferian new world order and man's government which is based on pillaging, inequality and lies.
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Evolution is repackaged "Gaia" Religion. They pile on technical terminology to a faith-based belief in mystical and magical transformations of lesser to higher lifeforms.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23223519


re·li·gion
   [ri-lij-uhn] Show IPA
noun
1.
a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2.
a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3.
the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.
4.
the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.
5.
the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith


Please show me how evolution, or any scientific theory (or even the scientific method itself) can be called a religion?


And I would suggest you should start by reading what the scientific method actually implies and what a theory in that circumstance actually is.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22089462


a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe


There is your first hint, genius.

Evolution is the belief that biological nature magically creates itself through random transformations.

Yea, I know you believe there is some sort of scientific methodology behind it, but that is due to ignorance and gullibility. Oh sure, there are all sorts of genetic changes happening, but there is not a shred of evidence for the evolution of completely novel proteins, much less a different body plan.

Furthermore, Biological Evolution is just once denomination of the Religion of Naturalism. Almost every fool who believes microbes can randomly transform into elephants over millions of years, also believes the physical universe, the elements, the earth, and DNA magically created itself by accident.

It is about as radical and fundamental a faith-based worldview as you could possibly get.
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HEY RETARD!

Even if you don't believe in human evolution, saying evolution doesn't exist is fucking ignorant.

We've watched other species eviolve, even in our lifetimes.

Species of frog have gone from water-breathing to full amphibious due to lowering oxygen levels of water.

Carnivorous lizards have developed glands to process and digest plant matter in areas with not enough pray.

Polar bears and brown bears are cross-breeding, right now, creating a newer and more durable species due to being pushed from their habitats.

I could list thousands of examples. You can debate the origin of humans all you want, but denying evolution outright proves you're a fucking idiot.

Why don't you try learning something factual before trying to sound intelligent, instead of dumbing everyone down with your dillusions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27339308


frogs are still frogs
lizards are still lizards
polar bears are still bears
you fail.
 Quoting: NWO4Never


Obviously, you do not understand the concept of evolution. It is simply is the change in the inherited characteristics over successive generations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25510138


Obviously you have no understanding of what evolution needs to happen to be true, and what we actually observe.

Any beneficial changes produce a loss or modification of existing function. Even in bacteria observed for 30,000+ generations, we only see slight adjustments to proteins it already coded for. No truly novel structures are arising.

Biodiversity requires a massive amount of novel, coordinated proteins to become fixated in populations, and we're not seeing it happen even on a micro scale.

Whale Evolution and Population Genetics

[link to www.youtube.com]



This lack of evolutionary mechanism is reflected in the fossil record of course. We always find an abundance of fully formed body plans: skeletons, organs, wings, respiratory, reproductive, digestive systems, etc.

Even the most favorable fossil examples to evolution are completely ambiguous and speculative, and pale in comparison to the massive amounts of stasis found within all major body plans.
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You realize that it is still a theory with some gaps. In 50 years, it may look very different.
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


Do you realize religion is just a story with a shit load of gaps?

At least with evolution you can watch it happen. Even prove a lot of things. Religion is based on faith. Faith is used to trick ignorant people.

Look how stupid faith looks to normal people.
Would you let a bank keep track of your savings account and just have faith that they weren't screwing you over? Or would you rather have a statement with facts on it?

Would you let some random person watch your kids just because they said they weren't fucking psycho? Or would you like to have some facts like whether or not they are a sex offender?
 Quoting: Marax


Evolution doesn't have gaps. In fact there's no evidence for it at all. Absolutely no evidence of transitional species in the fossil record, certainly none amongst organisms today.

Your deep and fervent faith in Evolution is laughable.tard
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5271623


I've already posted several examples of evolution amongst organisms today, actually. Not my fault you chose to ignore them to support your ridiculous fantasy.

Ten Astounding Cases of Modern Evolution and Adaptation
[link to www.popsci.com]
THERE IT IS. If you have a logical argument to present against the examples listed, which are observations you could go outdoors and make yourself if you wanted, please feel free, otherwise STFU. You can't base truth and knowledge on fabrications, as you creationists are so determined to do.
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Every single example from that Popsci link are ADAPTATIONS WITHIN SPECIES. This is not the same as a fish evolving over time to grow legs, walk on the land, grow fur and turn into a badger
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Just the Structure of the Elements and relationship between all types of life show that the Universe and Life has been Created and made By a Creator - God.

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Alright...

Impressive claim.

Please show why the structure of the elements and the relationship between of types of life show that the universe and life has been created by the Biblical God.

And why exactly one cannot infer that the Hinduistic gods were responsible for this.
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or, even better, that a mere phenomenon called "intelligence"
pervades all stuff in the Universe, and it is all inter-linked,
and that's what makes it all work (sorta like a giant computer, making donuts)
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HEY RETARD!

Even if you don't believe in human evolution, saying evolution doesn't exist is fucking ignorant.

We've watched other species eviolve, even in our lifetimes.

Species of frog have gone from water-breathing to full amphibious due to lowering oxygen levels of water.

Carnivorous lizards have developed glands to process and digest plant matter in areas with not enough pray.

Polar bears and brown bears are cross-breeding, right now, creating a newer and more durable species due to being pushed from their habitats.

I could list thousands of examples. You can debate the origin of humans all you want, but denying evolution outright proves you're a fucking idiot.

Why don't you try learning something factual before trying to sound intelligent, instead of dumbing everyone down with your dillusions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27339308


frogs are still frogs
lizards are still lizards
polar bears are still bears
you fail.
 Quoting: NWO4Never


Obviously, you do not understand the concept of evolution. It is simply is the change in the inherited characteristics over successive generations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25510138


stfu libtard! you don't know shit and you are spouting a bunch of retarded liberal bs.

You low IQ liberals are really funny thinking you can come here and tell people who are EDUCATED and have HIGH IQs lies and we will not call you out on it.

Go fuck yourself douchebag, right in the ass until you bleed to death a matter of fact. k thanks.
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Evolution is bullshit.

Then again, so is your Bible.
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Do you realize religion is just a story with a shit load of gaps?

At least with evolution you can watch it happen. Even prove a lot of things. Religion is based on faith. Faith is used to trick ignorant people.

Look how stupid faith looks to normal people.
Would you let a bank keep track of your savings account and just have faith that they weren't screwing you over? Or would you rather have a statement with facts on it?

Would you let some random person watch your kids just because they said they weren't fucking psycho? Or would you like to have some facts like whether or not they are a sex offender?
 Quoting: Marax


Evolution doesn't have gaps. In fact there's no evidence for it at all. Absolutely no evidence of transitional species in the fossil record, certainly none amongst organisms today.

Your deep and fervent faith in Evolution is laughable.tard
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5271623


I've already posted several examples of evolution amongst organisms today, actually. Not my fault you chose to ignore them to support your ridiculous fantasy.

Ten Astounding Cases of Modern Evolution and Adaptation
[link to www.popsci.com]
THERE IT IS. If you have a logical argument to present against the examples listed, which are observations you could go outdoors and make yourself if you wanted, please feel free, otherwise STFU. You can't base truth and knowledge on fabrications, as you creationists are so determined to do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27339308


Every single example from that Popsci link are ADAPTATIONS WITHIN SPECIES. This is not the same as a fish evolving over time to grow legs, walk on the land, grow fur and turn into a badger
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Yep those PopSci examples are laughable. All organisms have a limited ability to adapt to changing environments. This usually, if not always, comes at the expense of sacrificing part of their original function. (removing part of the catalytic function of an enzyme, in order to catalyze other molecules)

That is how bacteria like E.Coli survive on foreign diets. Genes have the mutative ability to monkey around with expressions that are already present, providing a diverse set of variations to the phenotype. However there is A CLEAR LIMITATION TO VARIATION. We never see completely novel protein function arising that the genome did not already code for originally.

Random Mutation/Natural Selection simply is not an adequate explanation for biodiversity.


This is a great daily updated website for Evolution-Debunking/ID related news.

[link to www.evolutionnews.org]
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Just the Structure of the Elements and relationship between all types of life show that the Universe and Life has been Created and made By a Creator - God.

 Quoting: Fight for Truth 6302433


Alright...

Impressive claim.

Please show why the structure of the elements and the relationship between of types of life show that the universe and life has been created by the Biblical God.

And why exactly one cannot infer that the Hinduistic gods were responsible for this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22089462


or, even better, that a mere phenomenon called "intelligence"
pervades all stuff in the Universe, and it is all inter-linked,
and that's what makes it all work (sorta like a giant computer, making donuts)
 Quoting: Dr Einstein


and, just because everything in the Universe is astounding
doesn't mean we have to get all stupid about it and call it "God".
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You all should learn about Aeonic Involution and Quantum Transfiguration; as well as base parameter sets; understanding of dual infinity processing & triple infinity.

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You should also learn about positron matrix generators, and double helix modifiers, and infinity loop quantum synthesis.

See how easy it is to spout nonsense?
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Evolution is bullshit.

Then again, so is your Bible.
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Either God created everything, or everything created itself.

There is no 3rd option.

Whether or not you realize it, you are an evolutionist.
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Just the Structure of the Elements and relationship between all types of life show that the Universe and Life has been Created and made By a Creator - God.

 Quoting: Fight for Truth 6302433


Alright...

Impressive claim.

Please show why the structure of the elements and the relationship between of types of life show that the universe and life has been created by the Biblical God.

And why exactly one cannot infer that the Hinduistic gods were responsible for this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22089462


or, even better, that a mere phenomenon called "intelligence"
pervades all stuff in the Universe, and it is all inter-linked,
and that's what makes it all work (sorta like a giant computer, making donuts)
 Quoting: Dr Einstein


and, just because everything in the Universe is astounding
doesn't mean we have to get all stupid about it and call it "God".
 Quoting: Dr Einstein


God is an adequate explanation. Goat-herders from the bronze age understood it, and molecular biologists understand it now. All of life and the universe speaks of a supreme intelligent creator.

Men have knowledge of God written on their consciousness.

The Bible prophecies, Jesus Christ himself, and the men that willingly went to the stake to be burned alive in his name, are overwhelming evidence that God has directly intervened on the Earth and directed men.

There is nothing 'stupid' about it.

If anything's stupid it is the pseudo-skeptic that desperately wants to believe 'Anything BUT God'

You will embrace anything as long as you it means you can be your own authority.
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Evolution is bullshit.

Then again, so is your Bible.
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Either God created everything, or everything created itself.

There is no 3rd option.

Whether or not you realize it, you are an evolutionist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


and, that is the most ASTOUNDING thing of all --
Science is discovering that evidently the entire Universe
arose out of nothing (ie. a *mathematical point* is about
as close to nothing as you can get,(and still be something
that you can talk about)).

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Evolution is bullshit.

Then again, so is your Bible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17884534


Either God created everything, or everything created itself.

There is no 3rd option.

Whether or not you realize it, you are an evolutionist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


and, that is the most ASTOUNDING thing of all --
Science is discovering that evidently the entire Universe
arose out of nothing (ie. a *mathematical point* is about
as close to nothing as you can get,(and still be something
that you can talk about)).
 Quoting: Dr Einstein


And since the idea of something naturally occurring from nothing has no scientific or logical basis, we can infer a designer was involved that is beyond the physical universe.

The Bible made an astounding scientific prediction that we would find evidence of a BEGINNING to the universe. Many scientists had previously believed the universe had always existed before the singularity was discovered.

Funny that the Bible also says Life was created by God, and thus predicts that Man will find no evidence of life arising from any natural causes. And with all the amazing advances in genetics and microbiology, we find that DNA(and RNA) completely defy natural cause.

Things like this should really give rational skeptics some pause. Is belief in God really as silly as you've been indoctrinated to believe?
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Is this a wind up or what?
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Evolution is bullshit.

Then again, so is your Bible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17884534


Either God created everything, or everything created itself.

There is no 3rd option.

Whether or not you realize it, you are an evolutionist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


and, that is the most ASTOUNDING thing of all --
Science is discovering that evidently the entire Universe
arose out of nothing (ie. a *mathematical point* is about
as close to nothing as you can get,(and still be something
that you can talk about)).
 Quoting: Dr Einstein


sad how people choose to believe this irrational, insane religious nonsense
packaged as 'science', but can't fathom that God created everything

"The reason people scoff at the Bible is because of their lifestyle. They don't
want their to be a God because God interferes with their lifestyle, and so they
scoff at the Bible because of their lusts."

- Kent Hovind -
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Evolution is bullshit.

Then again, so is your Bible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17884534


Either God created everything, or everything created itself.

There is no 3rd option.

Whether or not you realize it, you are an evolutionist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


and, that is the most ASTOUNDING thing of all --
Science is discovering that evidently the entire Universe
arose out of nothing (ie. a *mathematical point* is about
as close to nothing as you can get,(and still be something
that you can talk about)).
 Quoting: Dr Einstein


And since the idea of something naturally occurring from nothing has no scientific or logical basis, we can infer a designer was involved that is beyond the physical universe.

The Bible made an astounding scientific prediction that we would find evidence of a BEGINNING to the universe. Many scientists had previously believed the universe had always existed before the singularity was discovered.

Funny that the Bible also says Life was created by God, and thus predicts that Man will find no evidence of life arising from any natural causes. And with all the amazing advances in genetics and microbiology, we find that DNA(and RNA) completely defy natural cause.

Things like this should really give rational skeptics some pause. Is belief in God really as silly as you've been indoctrinated to believe?
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nope.

to see and understand all of the things that you do, and
then just take this wild-ass leap in saying "therefore,
there must be a God", is ludicrous.
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Either God created everything, or everything created itself.

There is no 3rd option.

Whether or not you realize it, you are an evolutionist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


and, that is the most ASTOUNDING thing of all --
Science is discovering that evidently the entire Universe
arose out of nothing (ie. a *mathematical point* is about
as close to nothing as you can get,(and still be something
that you can talk about)).
 Quoting: Dr Einstein


And since the idea of something naturally occurring from nothing has no scientific or logical basis, we can infer a designer was involved that is beyond the physical universe.

The Bible made an astounding scientific prediction that we would find evidence of a BEGINNING to the universe. Many scientists had previously believed the universe had always existed before the singularity was discovered.

Funny that the Bible also says Life was created by God, and thus predicts that Man will find no evidence of life arising from any natural causes. And with all the amazing advances in genetics and microbiology, we find that DNA(and RNA) completely defy natural cause.

Things like this should really give rational skeptics some pause. Is belief in God really as silly as you've been indoctrinated to believe?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23223519


nope.

to see and understand all of the things that you do, and
then just take this wild-ass leap in saying "therefore,
there must be a God", is ludicrous.
 Quoting: Dr Einstein


God follows the evidence. Scientifically, historically, logically, and morally.

It is a tiny leap of faith compared to your worldview. You just don't want to believe that the absolute truth is knowable, because that means you might have to obey it.
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and, that is the most ASTOUNDING thing of all --
Science is discovering that evidently the entire Universe
arose out of nothing (ie. a *mathematical point* is about
as close to nothing as you can get,(and still be something
that you can talk about)).
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And since the idea of something naturally occurring from nothing has no scientific or logical basis, we can infer a designer was involved that is beyond the physical universe.

The Bible made an astounding scientific prediction that we would find evidence of a BEGINNING to the universe. Many scientists had previously believed the universe had always existed before the singularity was discovered.

Funny that the Bible also says Life was created by God, and thus predicts that Man will find no evidence of life arising from any natural causes. And with all the amazing advances in genetics and microbiology, we find that DNA(and RNA) completely defy natural cause.

Things like this should really give rational skeptics some pause. Is belief in God really as silly as you've been indoctrinated to believe?
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nope.

to see and understand all of the things that you do, and
then just take this wild-ass leap in saying "therefore,
there must be a God", is ludicrous.
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God follows the evidence. Scientifically, historically, logically, and morally.

It is a tiny leap of faith compared to your worldview. You just don't want to believe that the absolute truth is knowable, because that means you might have to obey it.
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to a large extent i see as being: that i'm Free and yer not.
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It is an extinct breed of horse no longer found today.

The illustration is someone's belief, not science.

Horse Zebra Zonkey: the non-evolution of the horse

[link to creation.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27314176


Your article was written by a no-name part time high school teacher who writes 150-page "books", has contributed nothing noteworthy to science, has recieved no rewards, doesn't have a PhD...

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Who wrote an article at the link is of little importance. It only gives a longer explanation of what I already wrote. The argument remains unrefuted! The various horse breeds in the fossil record are only extinct breeds. Today, if we were to bury the small dog up to the large dog 'science' would be claiming it was evolution! Horses - same thing.


You have a belief in evolution. The geocolumn and fossil record are washed up!
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No, the argument does not remain unrefuted because it never refuted mine in the first place.

If you dug up a bunch of dogs, and they each demonstrated a gradual physical change, in steps, in line with the age of the remains, you'd be an idiot to call it anything but evolution.

The horse example stretches over millions of years. Evolution branches outwards to fill avaliable niches. Of course some of those species existed at the same time. Every member of a species doesn't collectively evolve at the same time. If you think evolution proposes this, you do not even understand what you're arguing against.

You and your article haven't presented a single point to disprove evolution.

Furthermore, I'm waiting for you to prove that the world is less than 10,000 years old. I'm waiting for you to prove that all fossils are from the great flood, and not from anywhere up to millions of years old like all science demonstrates. You can argue that things get sketchy in terms of precision when you go back millions of years, but every method of dating we have avaliable proves the Bible is bullshit in that respect.

Don't look now, 80,000 year old tree: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

13,000 year old tree colony: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

A huge colony of the sea grass Posidonia oceanica in the Mediterranean Sea is estimated to be between 12,000 and 200,000 years old. The maximum age is theoretical, as the region it occupies was above water at some point between 10,000 and 80,000 years ago.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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We know how dogs came to be - so it would be the person claiming evolution who is the retard. Dogs were bred. This is not evolution.

What dating method was used to date anything you claim?

You can claim

10,000
80,000
5 bazzillion

all day long. It is just propaganda until you prove it.

There are no tree ring dates older than the one earlier posted at 4700 years (methusala).
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Evolution is bullshit.

Then again, so is your Bible.
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Either God created everything, or everything created itself.

There is no 3rd option.

Whether or not you realize it, you are an evolutionist.
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and, that is the most ASTOUNDING thing of all --
Science is discovering that evidently the entire Universe
arose out of nothing (ie. a *mathematical point* is about
as close to nothing as you can get,(and still be something
that you can talk about)).
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The 'big bang' has been discredited. Too many evidences againt, from right here on earth, as earth was never a molten mass as the theory claims, evidenced by the granites - which cannot be lab tested or created to support a molten earth, to the astronomical observations of supernova remnants. All adds up the young universe, not bazzillions of years or any big bangism.
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Evolution doesn't have gaps. In fact there's no evidence for it at all. Absolutely no evidence of transitional species in the fossil record, certainly none amongst organisms today.

Your deep and fervent faith in Evolution is laughable.tard
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I've already posted several examples of evolution amongst organisms today, actually. Not my fault you chose to ignore them to support your ridiculous fantasy.

Ten Astounding Cases of Modern Evolution and Adaptation
[link to www.popsci.com]
THERE IT IS. If you have a logical argument to present against the examples listed, which are observations you could go outdoors and make yourself if you wanted, please feel free, otherwise STFU. You can't base truth and knowledge on fabrications, as you creationists are so determined to do.
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Every single example from that Popsci link are ADAPTATIONS WITHIN SPECIES. This is not the same as a fish evolving over time to grow legs, walk on the land, grow fur and turn into a badger
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Uh, yes it is.

Several Creationists have already proven evolution exists, within this very thread. If you admit species adapt at all, you admit evolution exists.


evolution
 
ev·o·lu·tion
  [ev-uh-loo-shuhn or, especially Brit., ee-vuh-] Show IPA
noun
1.
any process of formation or growth; development: the evolution of a language; the evolution of the airplane.
2.
a product of such development; something evolved: The exploration of space is the evolution of decades of research.
3.
Biology . change in the gene pool of a population from generation to generation by such processes as mutation, natural selection, and genetic drift.
4.
a process of gradual, peaceful, progressive change or development, as in social or economic structure or institutions.
5.
a motion incomplete in itself, but combining with coordinated motions to produce a single action, as in a machine.



THERE YOU HAVE IT. All biological evolution is, is the observable change in species over time.

YOU CAN DEBATE THE LONG TERM EFFECT OF EVOLUTION ALL YOU WANT. IT DOES NOT MATTER. I've proven evolution, by dictionary definition, does in fact exist.

You assholes can speculate on our biological history all you want. Whether you believe the world is 10,000 or ten billion years old is totally irrelevant. Whether you believe we were created at some point, or evolved from simpler organisms, is also irrelevant. Anything regarding our original origins is beside the point. They are merely the speculations and implications of our history, and we do not know enough to declare anything for sure in regards to the past. The fact is, evolution exists. Regardless of if you believe we came to be that way.

You creationists don't get to attach extra meaning to the definition of biological 'evolution'. The theories of our origins are a separate and speculative science based upon THE FACT THAT EVOLUTION IN ITSELF DOES EXIST.

You can knock the theories all you want, they will only become more accurate as we learn more and add more facts to base our theories on.

But you can't deny that evolution exists. All of you creationists have already admitted species can adapt in this thread.

Maybe if you retards concentrated more on what you're actually saying, you wouldn't contradict yourselves and make yourselves look like fools.

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