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I am for globalism. Ask me a question.

 
Eternium

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I quoted this before in another thread of mine. Here, it might help your cause;

To rule a state, have a known plan
To win a battle, have an unknown plan
To gain the universe, have no plan at all

Let the universe itself
reveal to you its splendor
How do I know this should be so?
Because of this-
The more restrictions, the more poverty
The more weapons, the more fear in the land
The more cleverness, the more strange events
The more laws, the more lawbreakers

Thus the Sages say,
Act with a pure heart and the people will be transformed
Love your own life and the people will be uplifted
Give without conditions and the people will prosper
Want nothing and the people will find everything

-Tao Te Ching
 Quoting: Eternium


It sounds to me like you're advocating anarchy. While I appreciate the freedom inherent in that principle, I can't see it moving humanity as a whole forward very much.
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Where exactly are we supposed to move forward to?

And no, I'd love to see the day of a global, self realized, human race.
 Quoting: Eternium


The stars, ultimately. In the near-term, a society that provides first-world comfort utilizing renewable energy and smart resource management, reuse, and deployment.
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It looks to me like the more we try to better our situation in the short term, the long term effect is rather grave.

How can we progress with such a thirsty mindset.

"We think too much and feel too little"

Last Edited by Eternium on 11/08/2012 08:03 PM
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It sounds to me like you're advocating anarchy. While I appreciate the freedom inherent in that principle, I can't see it moving humanity as a whole forward very much.
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Where exactly are we supposed to move forward to?

And no, I'd love to see the day of a global, self realized, human race.
 Quoting: Eternium


The stars, ultimately. In the near-term, a society that provides first-world comfort utilizing renewable energy and smart resource management, reuse, and deployment.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14090794


It looks to me like the more we try to better our situation in the short term, the long term effect is rather grave.

How can we progress with such a thirsty mindset.

"We think to much and feel to little"
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I would agree. Short-term comfort is being focused on rather than long-term planning.

If the goal is a universal human diaspora, then we are wasting time and resources every day by not working together towards that end.
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And the one-star bandit strikes. ::smh::
Eternium

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Still though, today, the world is exactly as it's supposed to be. I see perfect harmony. Maybe if we come to terms with that, we might "move forward".
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And the one-star bandit strikes. ::smh::
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That was me.
No worries..:)
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Still though, today, the world is exactly as it's supposed to be. I see perfect harmony. Maybe if we come to terms with that, we might "move forward".
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Sorry, but I can't see constant war (because right now, somewhere on the planet, there is some armed group killing another armed group, guaranteed), starvation, homelessness, sickness, and despair as perfect harmony.

There has to be a better way than what we're doing now.
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And the one-star bandit strikes. ::smh::
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That was me.
No worries..:)
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Can I ask why? I'm only trying to engender a civil discussion on the topic right now. It's not like I've been rude to anyone or making any sort of cruel statements.

Come on, F.S., if we can't debate the merits and pitfalls of something, how are we ever supposed to advance as a people?
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Still though, today, the world is exactly as it's supposed to be. I see perfect harmony. Maybe if we come to terms with that, we might "move forward".
 Quoting: Eternium


Sorry, but I can't see constant war (because right now, somewhere on the planet, there is some armed group killing another armed group, guaranteed), starvation, homelessness, sickness, and despair as perfect harmony.

There has to be a better way than what we're doing now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14090794


It is what it is. Can't have white without black, can't have softness without hardness, and so we cannot have happiness without sadness.

The more we try to better ourselves, that is our thirsty clinging mindset, the more we will destroy ourselves. It is the nature of the cosmos.

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Still though, today, the world is exactly as it's supposed to be. I see perfect harmony. Maybe if we come to terms with that, we might "move forward".
 Quoting: Eternium


Sorry, but I can't see constant war (because right now, somewhere on the planet, there is some armed group killing another armed group, guaranteed), starvation, homelessness, sickness, and despair as perfect harmony.

There has to be a better way than what we're doing now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14090794


It is what it is. Can't have white without black, can't have softness without hardness, and so we cannot have happiness without sadness.

The more we try to better ourselves, that is our thirsty clinging mindset, the more we will destroy ourselves. It is the nature of the cosmos.
 Quoting: Eternium


I do agree that balance is important, but it is not necessary to have war simply to have peace. Most species on the planet understand this and don't destroy their own as we have a tendency to do.
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And the one-star bandit strikes. ::smh::
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That was me.
No worries..:)
 Quoting: flaming sword 26297346


Can I ask why? I'm only trying to engender a civil discussion on the topic right now. It's not like I've been rude to anyone or making any sort of cruel statements.

Come on, F.S., if we can't debate the merits and pitfalls of something, how are we ever supposed to advance as a people?
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Oh, I guess, primarily, I cannot see it working from a logistical standpoint.

To my mind, what the world needs is more freedoms, not less...

All that seems to happen is that inept legislation is enacted to cover piss poor social policies.

Education is what is required, plus a sense of meaning.

I dunno..it just smacksof some cyborg nano future, on eto which I have been well exposed.

If that is what is in front of us..who wants it?

Not me. :)
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Still though, today, the world is exactly as it's supposed to be. I see perfect harmony. Maybe if we come to terms with that, we might "move forward".
 Quoting: Eternium


Sorry, but I can't see constant war (because right now, somewhere on the planet, there is some armed group killing another armed group, guaranteed), starvation, homelessness, sickness, and despair as perfect harmony.

There has to be a better way than what we're doing now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14090794


It is what it is. Can't have white without black, can't have softness without hardness, and so we cannot have happiness without sadness.

The more we try to better ourselves, that is our thirsty clinging mindset, the more we will destroy ourselves. It is the nature of the cosmos.
 Quoting: Eternium


I do agree that balance is important, but it is not necessary to have war simply to have peace. Most species on the planet understand this and don't destroy their own as we have a tendency to do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14090794


No we do not need to be killing each other, along with the other numerous atrocities and shenanigans. But if man cannot realize himself in this world, and is constantly avoiding inner reflection and always seeking to better himself, the move he will destroy himself. We as a planet are about to commit suicide simply because we do not know ourselves.
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I actually think that a global government is the ideal state that the world must reach if humanity is ever to get off this rock and start colonizing the solar system and the cosmos.
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"I have seen the StarSeed future of mankind and it is not on planet Earth!" - Mellen-Thomas Benedict.
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I actually think that a global government is the ideal state that the world must reach if humanity is ever to get off this rock and start colonizing the solar system and the cosmos.
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"I have seen the StarSeed future of mankind and it is not on planet Earth!" - Mellen-Thomas Benedict.
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Right there with you, my friend.
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I actually think that a global government is the ideal state that the world must reach if humanity is ever to get off this rock and start colonizing the solar system and the cosmos.
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"I have seen the StarSeed future of mankind and it is not on planet Earth!" - Mellen-Thomas Benedict.
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Right there with you, my friend.
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OP, can you think why global warming might actually be a good thing for humanity's future?
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I actually think that a global government is the ideal state that the world must reach if humanity is ever to get off this rock and start colonizing the solar system and the cosmos.
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"I have seen the StarSeed future of mankind and it is not on planet Earth!" - Mellen-Thomas Benedict.
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Right there with you, my friend.
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OP, can you think why global warming might actually be a good thing for humanity's future?
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Not particularly. Our largest cities, those best equipped to handle the growing population, mostly lay on coastal areas. These are also the centers of international trade, policy, and cultural exchange.

That sea levels will rise is almost certain, and it's a damn shame.

The only possible benefit I can see is that the loss of those cities might prompt some global powers to start construction of cities built on modern scientific principles, much as Europe was forced to after the end of the Second World War.
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OP, can you think why global warming might actually be a good thing for humanity's future?
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Not particularly.
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"The equable conditions of the Holocene, which has lasted 10,000 years so far, have enabled the flowering of agriculture, technology, mobility and resulting explosive population growth that has made the human species a global force."

"But the planet is feeling a new influence, that of people. Humans may delay the dawn of the next ice age by a millennium or two, or even longer, many climate experts say, as Earth's long-buried stores of coal, oil and other carbon-rich fossil fuels are burned, releasing billions of tons of carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping greenhouse gases."

[link to www.nytimes.com]
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If by "globalism" you mean decentralized, spontaneous, a priori emergence of a global, voluntary market sans-statism, then you're right.


If you mean global statism, you're sorely mistaken and have no grasp of praxeological economics.
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