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Looks like rumored NASA announcement is gonna be about going back to the MOON.

 
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Not terribly surprising. I'd already been hearing that they were thinking of doing a lunar orbit flight for the second SLS test, now they're talking about going to L2 instead. Different mission profile, but same basic hardware. Now if they unveil the new version of the Altair lander and propose to send that along as well for a landing on the far side, that would be huge. It would also blow their current budget to bits, so I doubt it.
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Hmmmmmm......... Blow their budget to bits........ Yep that about sums it up.

It would be fun though...... Or maybe not.

Just think about the first time, when experienced engineers made $12K-15K a year and were happy to do it. They were so much more technologically handicapped than the engineers of today. What a challenge they faced...... magnificent!
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There is sero and i mean zero proof we went there. 3 liars in a ship. Doesnt mean we went there
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You mean 18 in 6 don't you?
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They can't do it.

Stanley Kubrick died.
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coincidence?

George Lucas just got a check for 4 billion dollars spock
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Nice, I hope they do it again.

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The only frustrating part is our technique. Rockets aka controlled explosions is really old fashion. We'd need a breakthrough anti-gravity device to lift off Falcon style.
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Re: Looks like rumored NASA announcement is gonna be about going back to the MOON.
Not terribly surprising. I'd already been hearing that they were thinking of doing a lunar orbit flight for the second SLS test, now they're talking about going to L2 instead. Different mission profile, but same basic hardware. Now if they unveil the new version of the Altair lander and propose to send that along as well for a landing on the far side, that would be huge. It would also blow their current budget to bits, so I doubt it.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Hmmmmmm......... Blow their budget to bits........ Yep that about sums it up.

It would be fun though...... Or maybe not.

Just think about the first time, when experienced engineers made $12K-15K a year and were happy to do it. They were so much more technologically handicapped than the engineers of today. What a challenge they faced...... magnificent!
 Quoting: scimitar


True, but 12-15 was a decent salary back then. All the same, Apollo was much more heavily funded (in today's dollars) than NASA is right now. The technological advancements allow for some new tricks like laser ranging with radar as only a backup option, glass cockpits and all of that, but the engineering challenges are even bigger now because the vehicle will be required to take more astronauts, stay longer, and perhaps even leave a lander in orbit for months before the astronauts lauch up to it to go to the moon. Considering they're talking about using cryogenic fuels in the lander's descent stage, that poses a tricky problem of minimizing boil-off for up to 4 months in orbit prior to a mission actually going somewhere. Considering that the Soyuz capsules can only remain in orbit for about 6 months max while docked to ISS due to losses in non-cryogenic hydrogen peroxide... it should be interesting to see how NASA pulls it off if this really does go through.
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Re: Looks like rumored NASA announcement is gonna be about going back to the MOON.
Not terribly surprising. I'd already been hearing that they were thinking of doing a lunar orbit flight for the second SLS test, now they're talking about going to L2 instead. Different mission profile, but same basic hardware. Now if they unveil the new version of the Altair lander and propose to send that along as well for a landing on the far side, that would be huge. It would also blow their current budget to bits, so I doubt it.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Hmmmmmm......... Blow their budget to bits........ Yep that about sums it up.

It would be fun though...... Or maybe not.

Just think about the first time, when experienced engineers made $12K-15K a year and were happy to do it. They were so much more technologically handicapped than the engineers of today. What a challenge they faced...... magnificent!
 Quoting: scimitar


True, but 12-15 was a decent salary back then. All the same, Apollo was much more heavily funded (in today's dollars) than NASA is right now. The technological advancements allow for some new tricks like laser ranging with radar as only a backup option, glass cockpits and all of that, but the engineering challenges are even bigger now because the vehicle will be required to take more astronauts, stay longer, and perhaps even leave a lander in orbit for months before the astronauts lauch up to it to go to the moon. Considering they're talking about using cryogenic fuels in the lander's descent stage, that poses a tricky problem of minimizing boil-off for up to 4 months in orbit prior to a mission actually going somewhere. Considering that the Soyuz capsules can only remain in orbit for about 6 months max while docked to ISS due to losses in non-cryogenic hydrogen peroxide... it should be interesting to see how NASA pulls it off if this really does go through.
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depr derp derpity derp
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Re: Looks like rumored NASA announcement is gonna be about going back to the MOON.
For what? We already went there a long time ago.
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Set up a fuel depot in a permanently shadowed polar crater processing the ice into cryogenic fuel? Build a ground based space telescope on the lunar surface that would put hubble and all others to shame? Start mining helium 3 and develop a fusion reactor that can use it? I can think of a number of things we never got to do before.
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Which then leads to creating fusion drive engines for spacecraft.
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You had me until: Re: Looks like rumored NASA announcement is gonna be about going back to the MOON.
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Hm, we don't go back because it wasn't worth the money and now we are going back while we are in an even worse financial situation for... what?

Hey Trin.. Sorry, Astro. I thought you left? Made a whole thread about leaving due to "death threats"?
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Why now
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Not terribly surprising. I'd already been hearing that they were thinking of doing a lunar orbit flight for the second SLS test, now they're talking about going to L2 instead. Different mission profile, but same basic hardware. Now if they unveil the new version of the Altair lander and propose to send that along as well for a landing on the far side, that would be huge. It would also blow their current budget to bits, so I doubt it.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


YOU know as well as I do that the gigantic black silent antigravity triangle ufos with yellow running lights are ours. Quit with the charade.
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Re: Looks like rumored NASA announcement is gonna be about going back to the MOON.
For what? We already went there a long time ago.
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lolatu
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They may have lied about the dates and things, but they did get there eventually. The cover up is what they found when they got there. (alien bases etc). THAT'S why we never went back. We're not welcome.

So it'll be interesting to see what all this current huff and bluster is a distraction for...
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Not terribly surprising. I'd already been hearing that they were thinking of doing a lunar orbit flight for the second SLS test, now they're talking about going to L2 instead. Different mission profile, but same basic hardware. Now if they unveil the new version of the Altair lander and propose to send that along as well for a landing on the far side, that would be huge. It would also blow their current budget to bits, so I doubt it.
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To what political end?

A Democrat Senate and a Communist President would agree to a scientific expenditure that would garner no votes and no personal power?

Won't happen.
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Do votes really count in a communist state? Do they really count here for that matter??/
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Awesome. I got a lot of responses in this thread.

Probably should have put /sarc when it came to fake moon landing that some believed in but I'm one of them that thought it happened but as I've learned past 10 years, sadly it could be true that they faked it. I don't know what to believe anymore...
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[link to www.space.com]

I can't help but get excited about this. Hope I'm not being naive...
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They don't have the budget for ANY manned space programs
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Thank you for proving you don't understand it at all.
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Thanks for proving Americans are brainwashed sheeps.

baaaa bhaaaaaaaa bahh
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And another that wants to prove he knows nothing about the subject?
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man has NEVER stepped foot on the moon.
it was impossible than and now...if it was possible, there would be a Maccas on there by now. Derp
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WHY is it supposedly impossible? And why is it that no actual scientist agrees with you?
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Hey Trin.. Sorry, Astro. I thought you left? Made a whole thread about leaving due to "death threats"?
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Ugh, I'm not Trinity. I specifically said I wasn't leaving, I said I was done actively debunking astronomical bullshit on the threads. That's why I'm discussing NASA's plans here, not the bullshit about them hoaxing it.
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never ever gonna happen
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There is sero and i mean zero proof we went there. 3 liars in a ship. Doesnt mean we went there
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You mean 18 in 6 don't you?
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Plus of course the other three trips that orbited but didn't land. Of course he probably didn't know about those.
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[link to www.space.com]

I can't help but get excited about this. Hope I'm not being naive...
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no money for that u kidden dude.
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Thanks for proving Americans are brainwashed sheeps.

baaaa bhaaaaaaaa bahh
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And another that wants to prove he knows nothing about the subject?
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


man has NEVER stepped foot on the moon.
it was impossible than and now...if it was possible, there would be a Maccas on there by now. Derp
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WHY is it supposedly impossible? And why is it that no actual scientist agrees with you?
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the ONLY thing ALL scientists agree on is that there actually is a moon...the rest of your post is horseshit.
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Check out the link below

[link to www.lunatruth.com]
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Government spending for war or for new lunar expedition is traditional way of boosting American economy since WW2.
IMHO lunar exploration is better that Bush endless wars.

At least it push science ahead, create new technologies, workplace. And the most important thing it's a great dream in this boring, consumer-oriented world.

People need dream to be people.
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Awesome. I got a lot of responses in this thread.

Probably should have put /sarc when it came to fake moon landing that some believed in but I'm one of them that thought it happened but as I've learned past 10 years, sadly it could be true that they faked it. I don't know what to believe anymore...
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Don't worry. It was real. :)
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Maybe they finally figured out how to actually land on it and take off again.
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Man, I'm really conflicted on this. Although I recognize that such efforts are important and really drive technological innovation, and for my own personal and less-logical reasons would like to see another manned moon landing, I don't think this is the time.

I mean we're spending WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much money. And we don't have any of the money we're spending. We're loading up every thing, big and small, on the future generations and they will be paying this off for the next hundreds years or more.

Yeah, the more I think about it, we can't afford this. I wanna see this happen, but I gotta be an adult about this. Not now. We have other things to worry about.
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[link to www.spaceexplorationday.us]

We spend WAAAYYY too little.
 Quoting: Project_Deimos


Oh I didn't mean spending on NASA by itself, I understand that is down significantly. I meant spending on everything combined. That is WAAAY too much. :)
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And do what, collect a bunch of rocks. Total waste of money. If they were going to mine, then it would be a different story
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Obama is finally fulfilling George W. Bush's dream of going to the moon....wait a minute....we already went there. W must have been drunk when we landed in the 70s.

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For what? We already went there a long time ago.
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lolatu
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They may have lied about the dates and things, but they did get there eventually. The cover up is what they found when they got there. (alien bases etc). THAT'S why we never went back. We're not welcome.

So it'll be interesting to see what all this current huff and bluster is a distraction for...
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lol really? they found something that our telescopes can't? whatever
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